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(Huffington Post)   Olympus Has Fallen II: White House Down bombs at the box office, proving Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx aren't the box office draws studios hoped   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 110
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2013-07-01 11:31:06 AM

scottydoesntknow: Carth: I'll admit it I saw Olympus Has Fallen and enjoyed it. It was fun in the same way Commando was in that the over the top violence and cheesy plot were exactly what you expected out of an R rated action movie. White House Down on the other hand looked like a watered down family friendly version of the same movie so I had no desire to see it.

Huh, I had thought "Olympus Has Fallen" was PG-13. My interest in it just went up.


It's OK.  However, the acting is hammy at some points; Butler does what he can with what he's got, and so does Eckhart and Freeman, although sometimes, they're just there.  Also, Best Korea are the villians, and this go-round (I'm not spoiling anything here), they've managed to somehow procure an AC-130U gunship and get it all the way to the East Coast of the United States.  Oh, and enough people to do a zerg rush on the White House lawn.  And there are elements later on that will completely pull you out of the movie if you have even the slightest clue of how those elements actually work.
 
2013-07-01 11:38:25 AM
saw tatum on kimmel the other night... i honestly think the boy has a learning disability.  the fact that hollywood has tried desperately to turn him into the next brad pitt/ryan gosling so they can make movies for half the cost is just sad.  one part autism, one part ADD, one part fetal alcohol syndrome = SEXIEST MAN ALIVE

magic mike was awesome, though.
 
2013-07-01 11:39:29 AM
also, before going to Monsters U watch the first movie.
 
2013-07-01 11:41:04 AM
It was terrible marketing.

The first trailer made it look like an action/drama, a la Jack Ryan movie. Second trailer had a completely different tone, more along the lines of action with a sense of humor a la Die Hard and Lethal Weapon.

It was also never clear if this was in fact a buddy action movie or a star vehicle for Channing Tatum.

Finally, it just wasn't clear what the movie was about besides a terrorists taking over the White House and who exactly the bad guy(s) is. You always need a villan.
 
2013-07-01 11:41:32 AM
Or proving that 90's action movies redesigned with oodles of cgi destruction porn and a trailer that leaves nothing to the imagination don't work so well anymore.
 
2013-07-01 11:53:11 AM
derpy: You forgot the Carrie remake starring Hit Girl.

You mean the one with the trailer that goes "F*ck it, you already know how this story goes, so here's the entire film in 30 seconds"? Maybe it'll be good, but it's hard to get excited about a movie when even the marketing department doesn't give a damn.

/plus there's no way it can top the original. This one won't feature full frontal nudity by a young Nancy Allen.
 
2013-07-01 11:58:24 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: It's honestly not as bad as you think.

I mean it ain't great, don't get me wrong, but if you can turn your brain off for an hour or so it's an entertaining ride.



For me there are just too many good movies to see to waste time with "not that bad." I can barely catch everything I really want to see at the theater as it is.
 
2013-07-01 12:06:10 PM

scottydoesntknow: abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.

If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.


they must have been talking about something else. I thought it was WHD.
 
2013-07-01 12:06:32 PM

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 322x480]


FAR better than I thought it was going to be. I'd not only watch it again, but I'd actually try to talk my wife into watching, it was pretty fun.
 
2013-07-01 12:07:37 PM
"I think the fact that we have a female-centric movie standing out in a forest of giant tent-pole movies is phenomenal," said Chris Aronson, Fox's president of domestic distribution.

Wow, did nobody pick up the penis imagery from this dude?
 
2013-07-01 12:08:13 PM
Haven't seen either, but the titles themselves do suggest which one actually involved effort.
 
2013-07-01 12:08:24 PM
I am stunned that this movie didn't open to rave reviews from the very people who'd choose to go see it in the first place. Stunned and shocked. And a little peckish.
 
Skr
2013-07-01 12:15:47 PM
Trailers I saw for White House Down were extremely bland, one sharknado away from a SyFy piece.
 
2013-07-01 12:16:04 PM

Sybarite: For me there are just too many good movies to see to waste time with "not that bad." I can barely catch everything I really want to see at the theater as it is.


Only reason I went was because I had some Stubs rewards left on my AMC member card, sorta use it or lose it and I had seen everything else already.

.....I realize I go to the movie theaters far too much prolly.
 
2013-07-01 12:17:31 PM
And Rob Schneider's Percy Winckler: Secret Service due out this November looks even worse.
 
2013-07-01 12:19:57 PM
I can't believe that White House Down cost 2x more to make than Olympus Has Fallen.  Olympus definitely looks like the more superior movie with better graphics, and the wife and I enjoyed the hell out of it for what it was, an over-the-top non-stop action movie.  Will watch it again on video.

White House Down looks like a cash grab, the Antz to Olympus' A Bugs Life.  But I'd be surprised if it made a decent profit, it's about $130M in the hole.
 
2013-07-01 12:20:55 PM
White House Down just looks so unrealistic.  I mean... a black President?
 
2013-07-01 12:29:47 PM

texdent: Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters

(I have about the same desire as I did to see the first one, which is none)
Despicable Me 2 (didn't see the first one although my husband said it was cute.  Possibly rentable)
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug (I was so aggravated w/the shoe-horning of stuff & Looney Tunes quality of first one, I've got zero desire to see any more installments)
The Lone Ranger (Currently at something like 25% on Rotten Tomatoes.  No thanks.)
RED 2 (Most definitely!  Loved the first one.)
RIPD (I'll admit it--I'm a sucker for Ryan Reynolds.  The guy's just fun to watch, even when he's chewing up scenery.)
The Wolverine (I'll wait for the reviews.  As it stands, his cameo in First Class was better than the whole of X-Men Origins)
Elysium (sounds like Logan's Run meets Morlocks & Eloi.  But I do like Jodie Foster.  Right now, it's on the rentable list pending reviews)
KickAss 2 (without a doubt)
Ender's Game (No thanks.  Didn't like the book)
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire? (I really enjoyed the books and will see this, even if the movies are REALLY watering stuff down)

Also add:  Pacific Rim (Godzilla vs. Transformers!)
 
2013-07-01 12:44:02 PM

Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.


Saw the first 3, still haven't fully decided on Pacific Rim.  But those will probably be it for me until the fall.
 
2013-07-01 12:45:53 PM
Been There. Done That.

www.stvincent.ac.uk
 
2013-07-01 01:00:01 PM
I saw WHD this weekend. If one substitutes Obama for Fox, you get a new perspective on how the pro Obaba producers think of him.

Bonus. Substitute Angry white Tea Party"  for the bad guys and get a laugh

/ eat set egg:  Ayn Rand reference of The Fountainhead.

// decent flick, not as good as Olympus Has Fallen
 
2013-07-01 01:00:34 PM
Because Jamie Foxx is an insufferable cocksucker
 
2013-07-01 01:05:54 PM

ThatDarkFellow: Because Jamie Foxx is an insufferable cocksucker


Skr: Trailers I saw for White House Down were extremely bland, one sharknado away from a SyFy piece.


Yep. A movie with a trite, hackneyed semblance of a plot, implausible action scenes, banter lacking in wit, and actors that couldn't attract flies if they croaked, tanked? Color me shocked.
 
2013-07-01 01:14:27 PM

scottydoesntknow: abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.

If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.


Realize for a mega-huge blockbustery kind of movie, being $20million in profit is barely breaking even. I'd love to pull in $20mil as an income for one year but if I spent like ten times as much that to make it and that's what I make back after all is said is done, I'd be pissed.
 
2013-07-01 01:16:42 PM
Disappointing opening, particularly when you consider there was no meaningful competition.  Couldn't even beat out "Heat", which hardly has the makings of a summer blockbuster.   I don't think you can blame this on the actors.  Both have shone in various roles previously.
 
2013-07-01 01:22:27 PM
Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide
 
2013-07-01 01:27:34 PM

scottydoesntknow: abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.

If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.


Nope.

Rule of thumb is half domestic plus 15% of foreign = box office money towards profit.

OHF budget was 70.
Domestic was 99.
Foreign was 62.

45+9 = 54.

So OHF is at least 16 million in the hole, and that doesn't count advertising and print costs.

WHD is current more than 135 in the hole.
 
2013-07-01 01:35:01 PM

EnviroDude: I saw WHD this weekend. If one substitutes Obama for Fox, you get a new perspective on how the pro Obaba producers think of him.

Bonus. Substitute Angry white Tea Party" for the bad guys and get a laugh


Seriously????

Pfffftt!  <-- the sound of my interest in this movie hitting the hotplate
 
2013-07-01 01:36:41 PM

Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide


Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.
 
2013-07-01 01:37:47 PM

mjbok: So OHF is at least 16 million in the hole, and that doesn't count advertising and print costs.

WHD is current more than 135 in the hole.


Never underestimate the wizardry of Hollywood accounting to spin this as profitable to the point where some people get their money
 
2013-07-01 01:42:29 PM

mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.


I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?
 
2013-07-01 01:43:17 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: mjbok: So OHF is at least 16 million in the hole, and that doesn't count advertising and print costs.

WHD is current more than 135 in the hole.

Never underestimate the wizardry of Hollywood accounting to spin this as profitable to the point where some people get their money


As far as I know Hollywood accounting is only done to prove a movie lost money, not the other way around. That's why Eddie Murphy says that net points are worthless, just ask Winson Groom.
 
2013-07-01 01:47:49 PM

Carth: mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.

I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?


It's possible. I hadn't heard that. If that is correct, it is still about 4 million short, plus marketing which had to approach 75 million. It will get there...eventually, but starting that deep in the whole makes final profits slim.
 
2013-07-01 01:51:02 PM

mjbok: As far as I know Hollywood accounting is only done to prove a movie lost money, not the other way around. That's why Eddie Murphy says that net points are worthless, just ask Winson Groom.


It goes both ways, its just that no one talks about it because the opposite ends up with all characters being paid and a single shell to hole the loss until the film eventually breaks even from total foreign and domestic media sales. Water World for instance made sure all key principle people were paid through creative accounting and then they hammered video sales and inflated copy prices to make the books even.

Basically the loss is transferred on down the consumer chain to distribution outlets, which is getting harder and harder to do with electronic distribution. One big reason of the push back against day one release of movies.
 
2013-07-01 01:52:57 PM

thornhill: You always need a villan.


twitchfilm.com

Disagrees.
 
2013-07-01 02:21:49 PM

FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind

Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact

or the two volcano movies, dante's peak and volcano, which both came out the same time.


Let us not forget Twister and Tornado! coming out at about the same time.
 
2013-07-01 02:36:06 PM
 On behalf of Tawana Brawley , I accept this award ...

newsbusters.org
 
2013-07-01 02:39:10 PM

Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide


Well according to the Fark STID haters, even if STID hits 750m worldwide it is still an abject failure and there will be no third installment.

Personally, I loved it.

What I'm really loving now is seeing the same people that trashed the new Trek movies for being "Trek in name only" and changing too much, too drastically, circle their wagons in defense of MoS where the SAME people argue that a new direction had to be taken to revitalize the franchise and make Superman appealing to a new audience to keep it alive. So he behaves differently? So what?

/Buncha hypocritical wankers      =]
 
2013-07-01 02:41:08 PM

mjbok: Carth: mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.

I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?

It's possible. I hadn't heard that. If that is correct, it is still about 4 million short, plus marketing which had to approach 75 million. It will get there...eventually, but starting that deep in the whole makes final profits slim.


It doesn't open in Japan until August. They'll make some nice monies there.
 
2013-07-01 02:43:50 PM

Soulcatcher: /Buncha hypocritical wankers =]


To be fair, I've defended both films with the same premise. And for personally I think STID was a great popcorn movie with enough Trek to be Trek.

The lens flare got a little annoying though
 
2013-07-01 02:53:44 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Soulcatcher: /Buncha hypocritical wankers =]

To be fair, I've defended both films with the same premise. And for personally I think STID was a great popcorn movie with enough Trek to be Trek.

The lens flare got a little annoying though


I know that. You seem to be a very nice person    =]

I don't mind the lens flare all that much. I usually only see the really big films in the theatre anyway, and they tend to be pretty loud and indulgent in a lot of ways.
 
2013-07-01 03:02:50 PM

FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind

Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact

or the two volcano movies, dante's peak and volcano, which both came out the same time.


Backdoor Nurses vol II and  Bootie Howser MD.  I mean cripes they were almost the exact same movie and they came out within like a week of each other.  Plus Backdoor nurses Vol II really wasn't anything more than Vol I. The didn't move the story line along very much. It was pretty much just a compliation of butt sex, and very few nurses,
 
2013-07-01 03:07:07 PM

thecpt: Secretariat and sex and the city 2


i611.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-01 03:17:57 PM

Soulcatcher: mjbok: Carth: mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.

I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?

It's possible. I hadn't heard that. If that is correct, it is still about 4 million short, plus marketing which had to approach 75 million. It will get there...eventually, but starting that deep in the whole makes final profits slim.

It doesn't open in Japan until August. They'll make some nice monies there.


Lets say Japan was the only market left that would add money (I know it's not, but it makes the math easier). Figuring they are about 60 million (56 and change) short right now, with foreign BO returning 15%, that would mean it would have to do 400 million in Japan.

It will end up in the black. It probably will not in theatrical distribution.
 
2013-07-01 03:21:42 PM
Did anyone else get the amusing visual justaposition of an article talking about how badly the movie did OVER TOP of a screen wide ad for the movie.
 
2013-07-01 03:29:36 PM

Soulcatcher: I don't mind the lens flare all that much. I usually only see the really big films in the theatre anyway, and they tend to be pretty loud and indulgent in a lot of ways.


I think this year is going to be the year of everything over the top from Superman punching a city block off the face of the map to a giant robot using a carrier as a sword on a giant lizard

.....I'm worried I'm going to get ConAir like splosion overload
 
2013-07-01 03:35:48 PM

Soulcatcher: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Well according to the Fark STID haters, even if STID hits 750m worldwide it is still an abject failure and there will be no third installment.

Personally, I loved it.

What I'm really loving now is seeing the same people that trashed the new Trek movies for being "Trek in name only" and changing too much, too drastically, circle their wagons in defense of MoS where the SAME people argue that a new direction had to be taken to revitalize the franchise and make Superman appealing to a new audience to keep it alive. So he behaves differently? So what?

/Buncha hypocritical wankers      =]


I liked both. Odd because I don't like Star Trek or superman. Maybe that is a sign
 
2013-07-01 03:40:20 PM

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If I want to watch "Die Hard" I'll watch "Die Hard."

I'm starting to worry about Roland Emmerich. If he decided to make a Victorian period drama about the peccadilloes of former ladies' maids attempting to raise their status through marriage the script would still read "FADE UP FROM BLACK: The White House Explodes!"


You just know he wants to do a War of 1812 movie where Dolly Madison (played by Jennifer Lawrence) runs out of  the burning White House with the Lansdowne portrait in her hands as the building explodes behind her.
 
2013-07-01 04:05:49 PM

Danger Mouse: FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies


How many time did you watch?
cinema.com
.....None!

cinema.com
Are sure?.......two sex soul sisters.....

Backdoor Nurses vol II and  Bootie Howser MD.  I mean cripes they were almost the exact same movie and they came out within like a week of each other.  Plus Backdoor nurses Vol II really wasn't anything more than Vol I. The didn't move the story line along very much. It was pretty much just a compliation of butt sex, and very few nurses,
 
2013-07-01 04:30:20 PM

brigid_fitch: I think it's suffering more from Olympus Has Fallen being out already.  The first thing I thought of when I saw the White House Down trailer was, "Where's Gerard Butler?"


This definitely this. To add to the mix, it is out when World War Z is out and Superman. It doesn't matter who does the better movie, unfortunately having both of the same premises and types of movies being portrayed devalues both - and especially the one that comes out later.
 
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