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(Huffington Post)   Olympus Has Fallen II: White House Down bombs at the box office, proving Channing Tatum and Jamie Foxx aren't the box office draws studios hoped   (huffingtonpost.com ) divider line
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2013-07-01 08:33:41 AM  
Everything about the trailers for that movie made it look like something you'll see in one of those big bins of cut-rate DVDs and Blu-rays really soon.
 
2013-07-01 08:34:16 AM  
I saw This Is The End this weekend. Really funny.
 
2013-07-01 08:41:46 AM  
Maybe if it didn't look like a movie that would be perfect for MST3K it would have made some money.
 
2013-07-01 08:50:32 AM  
If I want to watch "Die Hard" I'll watch "Die Hard."

I'm starting to worry about Roland Emmerich. If he decided to make a Victorian period drama about the peccadilloes of former ladies' maids attempting to raise their status through marriage the script would still read "FADE UP FROM BLACK: The White House Explodes!"
 
2013-07-01 09:33:07 AM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If I want to watch "Die Hard" I'll watch "Die Hard."

I'm starting to worry about Roland Emmerich. If he decided to make a Victorian period drama about the peccadilloes of former ladies' maids attempting to raise their status through marriage the script would still read "FADE UP FROM BLACK: The White House Explodes!"


Now I want to see an Emmerich-made Downton Abbey.
 
2013-07-01 09:40:48 AM  
The trailer I saw this weekend removed any possibility of seeing this movie. It was basically every single rumor, joke, conspiracy theory, etc. of what's in the White House.

"I heard there are secret tunnels" *Cut to scene of them running through tunnels and explosions*
"What about the secret war room?" *Cut to scene of secret war room*
"Aren't there tennis and basketball courts here?" *Cut to scene of them driving through random courts*
"Can the president's limo really surive an RPG?" *Cut to limo suriving (and flying) after being hit by RPG*

What really did it though was the "No, the White House wouldn't explode like that. This isn't Independence Day" *Cut to "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INDEPENDENCE DAY!"*
 
2013-07-01 10:06:55 AM  

scottydoesntknow: The trailer I saw this weekend removed any possibility of seeing this movie. It was basically every single rumor, joke, conspiracy theory, etc. of what's in the White House.

"I heard there are secret tunnels" *Cut to scene of them running through tunnels and explosions*
"What about the secret war room?" *Cut to scene of secret war room*
"Aren't there tennis and basketball courts here?" *Cut to scene of them driving through random courts*
"Can the president's limo really surive an RPG?" *Cut to limo suriving (and flying) after being hit by RPG*

What really did it though was the "No, the White House wouldn't explode like that. This isn't Independence Day" *Cut to "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INDEPENDENCE DAY!"*


THIS! Thread over! You win!
 
2013-07-01 10:07:33 AM  
Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.
 
2013-07-01 10:11:26 AM  

Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.


This movie does seem like it would have been one of those shoot em up summer action movies from the 80's and early 90's staring one of those guys or Stallone.
 
2013-07-01 10:12:35 AM  
I rather enjoyed this recently...
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-07-01 10:12:55 AM  

Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.


So far, I've seen Star Trek, MoS, and WWZ.  Waiting for Pacific Rim.  And oddly, I want to see Lone Ranger too.
 
2013-07-01 10:14:53 AM  
Meh, it actually looks kind of fun.  Foxx chewing scenery(he's actually developed that much as an actor that he CAN chew scenery) plus explosions.
 
2013-07-01 10:15:04 AM  

Sybarite: Everything about the trailers for that movie made it look like something you'll see in one of those big bins of cut-rate DVDs and Blu-rays really soon.


scottydoesntknow: The trailer I saw this weekend removed any possibility of seeing this movie. It was basically every single rumor, joke, conspiracy theory, etc. of what's in the White House.

"I heard there are secret tunnels" *Cut to scene of them running through tunnels and explosions*
"What about the secret war room?" *Cut to scene of secret war room*
"Aren't there tennis and basketball courts here?" *Cut to scene of them driving through random courts*
"Can the president's limo really surive an RPG?" *Cut to limo suriving (and flying) after being hit by RPG*

What really did it though was the "No, the White House wouldn't explode like that. This isn't Independence Day" *Cut to "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INDEPENDENCE DAY!"*


These right here.  The ad campaign killed this movie.  They started out selling it as a thriller, but instead of keeping along those lines, they went full derp and next tried to pass it off as a buddy-cop kind of movie...and then, when that didn't work, tried to mix the two approaches.

Shame, because the movie's a lot better than the ads make it out to be.  Tatum and Foxx play off of each other well, Woods and Clarke look like they're having fun, and even the little girl isn't completely annoying.  Compared to Olympus Has Fallen, it's more entertaining and enjoyable, and even slightly more plausible (though that doesn't mean much - just about anything's more plausible than Olympus Has Fallen).
 
2013-07-01 10:16:21 AM  
Foxx is still sitting in the rafters of Miami's arena. He can't come down until the movie makes $300MM.
 
2013-07-01 10:17:52 AM  
It's honestly not as bad as you think.

I mean it ain't great, don't get me wrong, but if you can turn your brain off for an hour or so it's an entertaining ride.
 
2013-07-01 10:21:00 AM  

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...


Really funny movie. I'm still enjoying it after multiple viewings.

Oh no! Where are we going to get booze?!
 
2013-07-01 10:21:33 AM  

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 322x480]


www.troll.me
 
2013-07-01 10:23:13 AM  

Clutch2013: Sybarite: Everything about the trailers for that movie made it look like something you'll see in one of those big bins of cut-rate DVDs and Blu-rays really soon.

scottydoesntknow: The trailer I saw this weekend removed any possibility of seeing this movie. It was basically every single rumor, joke, conspiracy theory, etc. of what's in the White House.

"I heard there are secret tunnels" *Cut to scene of them running through tunnels and explosions*
"What about the secret war room?" *Cut to scene of secret war room*
"Aren't there tennis and basketball courts here?" *Cut to scene of them driving through random courts*
"Can the president's limo really surive an RPG?" *Cut to limo suriving (and flying) after being hit by RPG*

What really did it though was the "No, the White House wouldn't explode like that. This isn't Independence Day" *Cut to "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INDEPENDENCE DAY!"*

These right here.  The ad campaign killed this movie.  They started out selling it as a thriller, but instead of keeping along those lines, they went full derp and next tried to pass it off as a buddy-cop kind of movie...and then, when that didn't work, tried to mix the two approaches.

Shame, because the movie's a lot better than the ads make it out to be.  Tatum and Foxx play off of each other well, Woods and Clarke look like they're having fun, and even the little girl isn't completely annoying.  Compared to Olympus Has Fallen, it's more entertaining and enjoyable, and even slightly more plausible (though that doesn't mean much - just about anything's more plausible than Olympus Has Fallen).


You both left out the wonderful line in the trailer, "President" Jamie Foxx "Get your hands off my Jordan's!"  I saw that in the theater I think everyone there cringed.
 
2013-07-01 10:27:04 AM  
At least, thanks to Channing Tatum, somebody will always be there to give Vin Diesel some competition in that race for the Oscar for Best Performance by an Actor Who Obviously Took His Name from a Chippendale's Dancer.
 
2013-07-01 10:27:23 AM  

AeAe: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

So far, I've seen Star Trek, MoS, and WWZ.  Waiting for Pacific Rim.  And oddly, I want to see Lone Ranger too.


I haven't yet seen "Man of Steel", probably will this weekend.  Been waiting for Pacific Rim since I saw the trailer when I saw "The Hobbit".
 
2013-07-01 10:28:19 AM  

ongbok: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

This movie does seem like it would have been one of those shoot em up summer action movies from the 80's and early 90's staring one of those guys or Stallone.


Damn...forgot about Stallone...
 
2013-07-01 10:32:03 AM  
I think it's suffering more from Olympus Has Fallen being out already.  The first thing I thought of when I saw the White House Down trailer was, "Where's Gerard Butler?"
 
2013-07-01 10:34:43 AM  

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 322x480]


I saw this on a flight and liked it way more than I should have.  I especially liked the role reversal of Jonah Hill becoming the popular one & Tatum ending up being a dick that everyone hated.  Done very subtly and done well.

thecpt: Oh no! Where are we going to get booze?!


Yeah, that cracked me the hell up.
 
2013-07-01 10:36:17 AM  

Tom_Slick: Clutch2013: Sybarite: Everything about the trailers for that movie made it look like something you'll see in one of those big bins of cut-rate DVDs and Blu-rays really soon.

scottydoesntknow: The trailer I saw this weekend removed any possibility of seeing this movie. It was basically every single rumor, joke, conspiracy theory, etc. of what's in the White House.

"I heard there are secret tunnels" *Cut to scene of them running through tunnels and explosions*
"What about the secret war room?" *Cut to scene of secret war room*
"Aren't there tennis and basketball courts here?" *Cut to scene of them driving through random courts*
"Can the president's limo really surive an RPG?" *Cut to limo suriving (and flying) after being hit by RPG*

What really did it though was the "No, the White House wouldn't explode like that. This isn't Independence Day" *Cut to "FROM THE DIRECTOR OF INDEPENDENCE DAY!"*

These right here.  The ad campaign killed this movie.  They started out selling it as a thriller, but instead of keeping along those lines, they went full derp and next tried to pass it off as a buddy-cop kind of movie...and then, when that didn't work, tried to mix the two approaches.

Shame, because the movie's a lot better than the ads make it out to be.  Tatum and Foxx play off of each other well, Woods and Clarke look like they're having fun, and even the little girl isn't completely annoying.  Compared to Olympus Has Fallen, it's more entertaining and enjoyable, and even slightly more plausible (though that doesn't mean much - just about anything's more plausible than Olympus Has Fallen).

You both left out the wonderful line in the trailer, "President" Jamie Foxx "Get your hands off my Jordan's!"  I saw that in the theater I think everyone there cringed.


There were laughs at my theater at that.  Honestly, it worked out better in context.
 
2013-07-01 10:36:26 AM  
This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind
 
2013-07-01 10:37:10 AM  
I only have the interest to sit in a theatre maybe once per week, and I wanted to see The Heat this weekend, which my wife and I did. And it was f*cking funny as sh*t. Almost as funny as Bridesmaids.

White House Down just looks... boring? I don't particularly like Jamie Foxx. He's just a little too condescending or something I dunno. I just feel like when he's acting he's got this smirk that says "don't you get it? It's me, Jamie Foxx, acting!".

To me, it's a bigger problem than just that. It's with the whole industry. For some reason Hollywood has decided that all action movies have to be over the top massive. Remember Die Hard 1988? John McClane jumping off the roof through the window with a fire hose tied around him. That sh*t looked crazy. And it was small scale compared to today. Yet it still holds up as looking crazy and fretful and all that good stuff. I saw Die Hard 5 and him and his son just jump out of a window without a second thought. And it doesn't even have 1% of the same riveting feel or experience as the 1988 scene.

I'm no movie consultant or anything, but I'd start with "don't use so much CG, use more models/real", and go from there.

/21 Jump Street was awesome
//Man of Steel was terrible
 
2013-07-01 10:39:58 AM  

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...


It was surprisingly entertaining. Expected nothing from it, but it was funny.

The cameos were awesome.
 
2013-07-01 10:40:15 AM  

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 322x480]


Definitely Tatum's best movie. Had me rolling the entire time. It also does a fantastic job of making fun of overused action movie tropes.
 
2013-07-01 10:46:21 AM  

texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind


Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact
 
2013-07-01 10:50:09 AM  
 
2013-07-01 10:53:23 AM  

Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.


Pretty much this.  And Thor, though I guess that's not a summer movie...can't think of anything else I would actually sit in a theater and watch.
 
2013-07-01 10:58:13 AM  

derpy: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/escape-to-the-movies/7623 - White-House-Down


Yes, that exactly.

This was a fun movie that is going to get buried because they didn't promote it correctly.
 
2013-07-01 10:59:31 AM  

Missicat: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

Pretty much this.  And Thor, though I guess that's not a summer movie...can't think of anything else I would actually sit in a theater and watch.


Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters
Despicable Me 2
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug
The Lone Ranger
RED 2
RIPD
The Wolverine
Elysium
KickAss 2
Ender's Game
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire?
 
2013-07-01 11:00:51 AM  

sure haven't: I don't particularly like Jamie Foxx. He's just a little too condescending or something I dunno. I just feel like when he's acting he's got this smirk that says "don't you get it? It's me, Jamie Foxx, acting!".


I loved him in Jarhead.
 
2013-07-01 11:02:29 AM  

texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind


And only the last matchup had both of them being good movies, and the first two matchups are varying levels of crap.
 
2013-07-01 11:03:17 AM  

texdent: Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters
Despicable Me 2
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug
The Lone Ranger
RED 2
RIPD
The Wolverine
Elysium
KickAss 2
Ender's Game
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire?


Having seen the bit on CBS Sunday morning, I have actually changed my mind and want to see this movie. Apparently its told Big Trouble Little China style from the perspective of the side kick.
 
2013-07-01 11:06:12 AM  

texdent: Missicat: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

Pretty much this.  And Thor, though I guess that's not a summer movie...can't think of anything else I would actually sit in a theater and watch.

Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters

Never saw the first one, not really interested in kid's take of Greek myths (but won't talk bad about those that do)
Despicable Me 2 Never saw the first one either, but I heard it was funny
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug Refuse to see it because it's a cash grab
The Lone Ranger Kinda want to see this
RED 2 Can't wait for this, the first one was suprisingly fun. I can watch it any time.
RIPDMen In Black remake (but I will admit the trailers are fun, but I think it's because the song is so catchy)
The Wolverine Waiting for reviews after the travesty that was Origins
Elysium Can't wait for this
KickAss 2 Can't wait for this
Ender's Game We'll see what reviews look like
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire? Wait for reviews, but the first one was very good
 
2013-07-01 11:07:38 AM  
I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.
 
2013-07-01 11:09:12 AM  

texdent: Missicat: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

Pretty much this.  And Thor, though I guess that's not a summer movie...can't think of anything else I would actually sit in a theater and watch.

Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters
Despicable Me 2
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug
The Lone Ranger
RED 2
RIPD
The Wolverine
Elysium
KickAss 2
Ender's Game
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire?


Forgot about Elysium and Red 2....still waking up.  RIPD..maybe....Kick Ass 2 and The Hobbit...probably.
 
2013-07-01 11:10:31 AM  

abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.


If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.
 
2013-07-01 11:11:23 AM  

mjbok: btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...

It was surprisingly entertaining. Expected nothing from it, but it was funny.


I completely agree and I never saw the original TV show.
 
2013-07-01 11:12:17 AM  

Missicat: RIPD..maybe....


Ryan Renolds and Jeff Bridges as action heroes?  Sure, take my money.  But something about the ads...it's the music.  Something about the song they chose for the ads...it just doesn't have an action movie vibe.  Like it's trying to hard to appeal to "hip".

/Will wait for the reviews
//YMMV
 
2013-07-01 11:14:03 AM  

thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind

Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact


or the two volcano movies, dante's peak and volcano, which both came out the same time.
 
2013-07-01 11:15:20 AM  

born_yesterday: Ryan Renolds and Jeff Bridges as action heroes? Sure, take my money. But something about the ads...it's the music. Something about the song they chose for the ads...it just doesn't have an action movie vibe. Like it's trying to hard to appeal to "hip".


From what I gather its basically Men In Black cept with ghosts
 
2013-07-01 11:17:53 AM  
I'll admit it I saw Olympus Has Fallen and enjoyed it. It was fun in the same way Commando was in that the over the top violence and cheesy plot were exactly what you expected out of an R rated action movie. White House Down on the other hand looked like a watered down family friendly version of the same movie so I had no desire to see it.
 
2013-07-01 11:19:13 AM  

texdent: Missicat: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

Pretty much this.  And Thor, though I guess that's not a summer movie...can't think of anything else I would actually sit in a theater and watch.

Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters
Despicable Me 2
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug
The Lone Ranger
RED 2
RIPD
The Wolverine
Elysium
KickAss 2
Ender's Game
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire?


You forgot the Carrie remake starring Hit Girl.
 
2013-07-01 11:19:43 AM  

Carth: I'll admit it I saw Olympus Has Fallen and enjoyed it. It was fun in the same way Commando was in that the over the top violence and cheesy plot were exactly what you expected out of an R rated action movie. White House Down on the other hand looked like a watered down family friendly version of the same movie so I had no desire to see it.


Huh, I had thought "Olympus Has Fallen" was PG-13. My interest in it just went up.
 
2013-07-01 11:21:44 AM  
This looks like a the perfect movie to watch in the background on Netflix Instant while half-assing housework.
 
2013-07-01 11:21:49 AM  

texdent: Missicat: Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.

Pretty much this.  And Thor, though I guess that's not a summer movie...can't think of anything else I would actually sit in a theater and watch.

Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters
Despicable Me 2
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug
The Lone Ranger
RED 2
RIPD
The Wolverine
Elysium
KickAss 2
Ender's Game
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire?


Aww snap..  I forgot about those others

Here's my list:

Pacific Rim
Hobbit
Lone Ranger
Wolverine
Elysium
and... Ender

Maybe RIPD.  I like Jeff Bridges.
 
2013-07-01 11:23:27 AM  

FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind

Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact

or the two volcano movies, dante's peak and volcano, which both came out the same time.


Secretariat and sex and the city 2
 
2013-07-01 11:31:06 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Carth: I'll admit it I saw Olympus Has Fallen and enjoyed it. It was fun in the same way Commando was in that the over the top violence and cheesy plot were exactly what you expected out of an R rated action movie. White House Down on the other hand looked like a watered down family friendly version of the same movie so I had no desire to see it.

Huh, I had thought "Olympus Has Fallen" was PG-13. My interest in it just went up.


It's OK.  However, the acting is hammy at some points; Butler does what he can with what he's got, and so does Eckhart and Freeman, although sometimes, they're just there.  Also, Best Korea are the villians, and this go-round (I'm not spoiling anything here), they've managed to somehow procure an AC-130U gunship and get it all the way to the East Coast of the United States.  Oh, and enough people to do a zerg rush on the White House lawn.  And there are elements later on that will completely pull you out of the movie if you have even the slightest clue of how those elements actually work.
 
2013-07-01 11:38:25 AM  
saw tatum on kimmel the other night... i honestly think the boy has a learning disability.  the fact that hollywood has tried desperately to turn him into the next brad pitt/ryan gosling so they can make movies for half the cost is just sad.  one part autism, one part ADD, one part fetal alcohol syndrome = SEXIEST MAN ALIVE

magic mike was awesome, though.
 
2013-07-01 11:39:29 AM  
also, before going to Monsters U watch the first movie.
 
2013-07-01 11:41:04 AM  
It was terrible marketing.

The first trailer made it look like an action/drama, a la Jack Ryan movie. Second trailer had a completely different tone, more along the lines of action with a sense of humor a la Die Hard and Lethal Weapon.

It was also never clear if this was in fact a buddy action movie or a star vehicle for Channing Tatum.

Finally, it just wasn't clear what the movie was about besides a terrorists taking over the White House and who exactly the bad guy(s) is. You always need a villan.
 
2013-07-01 11:41:32 AM  
Or proving that 90's action movies redesigned with oodles of cgi destruction porn and a trailer that leaves nothing to the imagination don't work so well anymore.
 
2013-07-01 11:53:11 AM  
derpy: You forgot the Carrie remake starring Hit Girl.

You mean the one with the trailer that goes "F*ck it, you already know how this story goes, so here's the entire film in 30 seconds"? Maybe it'll be good, but it's hard to get excited about a movie when even the marketing department doesn't give a damn.

/plus there's no way it can top the original. This one won't feature full frontal nudity by a young Nancy Allen.
 
2013-07-01 11:58:24 AM  

IdBeCrazyIf: It's honestly not as bad as you think.

I mean it ain't great, don't get me wrong, but if you can turn your brain off for an hour or so it's an entertaining ride.



For me there are just too many good movies to see to waste time with "not that bad." I can barely catch everything I really want to see at the theater as it is.
 
2013-07-01 12:06:10 PM  

scottydoesntknow: abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.

If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.


they must have been talking about something else. I thought it was WHD.
 
2013-07-01 12:06:32 PM  

btraz70: I rather enjoyed this recently...
[ts2.mm.bing.net image 322x480]


FAR better than I thought it was going to be. I'd not only watch it again, but I'd actually try to talk my wife into watching, it was pretty fun.
 
2013-07-01 12:07:37 PM  
"I think the fact that we have a female-centric movie standing out in a forest of giant tent-pole movies is phenomenal," said Chris Aronson, Fox's president of domestic distribution.

Wow, did nobody pick up the penis imagery from this dude?
 
2013-07-01 12:08:13 PM  
Haven't seen either, but the titles themselves do suggest which one actually involved effort.
 
2013-07-01 12:08:24 PM  
I am stunned that this movie didn't open to rave reviews from the very people who'd choose to go see it in the first place. Stunned and shocked. And a little peckish.
 
Skr
2013-07-01 12:15:47 PM  
Trailers I saw for White House Down were extremely bland, one sharknado away from a SyFy piece.
 
2013-07-01 12:16:04 PM  

Sybarite: For me there are just too many good movies to see to waste time with "not that bad." I can barely catch everything I really want to see at the theater as it is.


Only reason I went was because I had some Stubs rewards left on my AMC member card, sorta use it or lose it and I had seen everything else already.

.....I realize I go to the movie theaters far too much prolly.
 
2013-07-01 12:17:31 PM  
And Rob Schneider's Percy Winckler: Secret Service due out this November looks even worse.
 
2013-07-01 12:19:57 PM  
I can't believe that White House Down cost 2x more to make than Olympus Has Fallen.  Olympus definitely looks like the more superior movie with better graphics, and the wife and I enjoyed the hell out of it for what it was, an over-the-top non-stop action movie.  Will watch it again on video.

White House Down looks like a cash grab, the Antz to Olympus' A Bugs Life.  But I'd be surprised if it made a decent profit, it's about $130M in the hole.
 
2013-07-01 12:20:55 PM  
White House Down just looks so unrealistic.  I mean... a black President?
 
2013-07-01 12:29:47 PM  

texdent: Percy Jackson: Sea of Monsters

(I have about the same desire as I did to see the first one, which is none)
Despicable Me 2 (didn't see the first one although my husband said it was cute.  Possibly rentable)
The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug (I was so aggravated w/the shoe-horning of stuff & Looney Tunes quality of first one, I've got zero desire to see any more installments)
The Lone Ranger (Currently at something like 25% on Rotten Tomatoes.  No thanks.)
RED 2 (Most definitely!  Loved the first one.)
RIPD (I'll admit it--I'm a sucker for Ryan Reynolds.  The guy's just fun to watch, even when he's chewing up scenery.)
The Wolverine (I'll wait for the reviews.  As it stands, his cameo in First Class was better than the whole of X-Men Origins)
Elysium (sounds like Logan's Run meets Morlocks & Eloi.  But I do like Jodie Foster.  Right now, it's on the rentable list pending reviews)
KickAss 2 (without a doubt)
Ender's Game (No thanks.  Didn't like the book)
The Hunger Games: Catching Fire? (I really enjoyed the books and will see this, even if the movies are REALLY watering stuff down)

Also add:  Pacific Rim (Godzilla vs. Transformers!)
 
2013-07-01 12:44:02 PM  

Great Janitor: Sorry, my summer movie budget is reserved for Iron Man 3, Star Trek into Darkness, Man of Steel and Pacific Rim.  If the movie didn't look to be so by the numbers generic shiat that I've already seen done and done better by Arnold, Segal, Willis, etc... then I might have added it to my budget.


Saw the first 3, still haven't fully decided on Pacific Rim.  But those will probably be it for me until the fall.
 
2013-07-01 12:45:53 PM  
Been There. Done That.

www.stvincent.ac.uk
 
2013-07-01 01:00:01 PM  
I saw WHD this weekend. If one substitutes Obama for Fox, you get a new perspective on how the pro Obaba producers think of him.

Bonus. Substitute Angry white Tea Party"  for the bad guys and get a laugh

/ eat set egg:  Ayn Rand reference of The Fountainhead.

// decent flick, not as good as Olympus Has Fallen
 
2013-07-01 01:00:34 PM  
Because Jamie Foxx is an insufferable cocksucker
 
2013-07-01 01:05:54 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: Because Jamie Foxx is an insufferable cocksucker


Skr: Trailers I saw for White House Down were extremely bland, one sharknado away from a SyFy piece.


Yep. A movie with a trite, hackneyed semblance of a plot, implausible action scenes, banter lacking in wit, and actors that couldn't attract flies if they croaked, tanked? Color me shocked.
 
2013-07-01 01:14:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.

If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.


Realize for a mega-huge blockbustery kind of movie, being $20million in profit is barely breaking even. I'd love to pull in $20mil as an income for one year but if I spent like ten times as much that to make it and that's what I make back after all is said is done, I'd be pissed.
 
2013-07-01 01:16:42 PM  
Disappointing opening, particularly when you consider there was no meaningful competition.  Couldn't even beat out "Heat", which hardly has the makings of a summer blockbuster.   I don't think you can blame this on the actors.  Both have shone in various roles previously.
 
2013-07-01 01:22:27 PM  
Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide
 
2013-07-01 01:27:34 PM  

scottydoesntknow: abhorrent1: I thought I heard somewhere that the made it for $7M. So while not a blockbuster, they're making a lot of money on it.

If you're talking about Olympus Has Fallen, you need to add another zero. If you're talking about White House Down, you need to add a zero and multiply it by 2.

OHF is profitably now, by $20 million.
WHD is still in the hole by $125 million.


Nope.

Rule of thumb is half domestic plus 15% of foreign = box office money towards profit.

OHF budget was 70.
Domestic was 99.
Foreign was 62.

45+9 = 54.

So OHF is at least 16 million in the hole, and that doesn't count advertising and print costs.

WHD is current more than 135 in the hole.
 
2013-07-01 01:35:01 PM  

EnviroDude: I saw WHD this weekend. If one substitutes Obama for Fox, you get a new perspective on how the pro Obaba producers think of him.

Bonus. Substitute Angry white Tea Party" for the bad guys and get a laugh


Seriously????

Pfffftt!  <-- the sound of my interest in this movie hitting the hotplate
 
2013-07-01 01:36:41 PM  

Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide


Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.
 
2013-07-01 01:37:47 PM  

mjbok: So OHF is at least 16 million in the hole, and that doesn't count advertising and print costs.

WHD is current more than 135 in the hole.


Never underestimate the wizardry of Hollywood accounting to spin this as profitable to the point where some people get their money
 
2013-07-01 01:42:29 PM  

mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.


I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?
 
2013-07-01 01:43:17 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: mjbok: So OHF is at least 16 million in the hole, and that doesn't count advertising and print costs.

WHD is current more than 135 in the hole.

Never underestimate the wizardry of Hollywood accounting to spin this as profitable to the point where some people get their money


As far as I know Hollywood accounting is only done to prove a movie lost money, not the other way around. That's why Eddie Murphy says that net points are worthless, just ask Winson Groom.
 
2013-07-01 01:47:49 PM  

Carth: mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.

I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?


It's possible. I hadn't heard that. If that is correct, it is still about 4 million short, plus marketing which had to approach 75 million. It will get there...eventually, but starting that deep in the whole makes final profits slim.
 
2013-07-01 01:51:02 PM  

mjbok: As far as I know Hollywood accounting is only done to prove a movie lost money, not the other way around. That's why Eddie Murphy says that net points are worthless, just ask Winson Groom.


It goes both ways, its just that no one talks about it because the opposite ends up with all characters being paid and a single shell to hole the loss until the film eventually breaks even from total foreign and domestic media sales. Water World for instance made sure all key principle people were paid through creative accounting and then they hammered video sales and inflated copy prices to make the books even.

Basically the loss is transferred on down the consumer chain to distribution outlets, which is getting harder and harder to do with electronic distribution. One big reason of the push back against day one release of movies.
 
2013-07-01 01:52:57 PM  

thornhill: You always need a villan.


twitchfilm.com

Disagrees.
 
2013-07-01 02:21:49 PM  

FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind

Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact

or the two volcano movies, dante's peak and volcano, which both came out the same time.


Let us not forget Twister and Tornado! coming out at about the same time.
 
2013-07-01 02:36:06 PM  
 On behalf of Tawana Brawley , I accept this award ...

newsbusters.org
 
2013-07-01 02:39:10 PM  

Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide


Well according to the Fark STID haters, even if STID hits 750m worldwide it is still an abject failure and there will be no third installment.

Personally, I loved it.

What I'm really loving now is seeing the same people that trashed the new Trek movies for being "Trek in name only" and changing too much, too drastically, circle their wagons in defense of MoS where the SAME people argue that a new direction had to be taken to revitalize the franchise and make Superman appealing to a new audience to keep it alive. So he behaves differently? So what?

/Buncha hypocritical wankers      =]
 
2013-07-01 02:41:08 PM  

mjbok: Carth: mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.

I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?

It's possible. I hadn't heard that. If that is correct, it is still about 4 million short, plus marketing which had to approach 75 million. It will get there...eventually, but starting that deep in the whole makes final profits slim.


It doesn't open in Japan until August. They'll make some nice monies there.
 
2013-07-01 02:43:50 PM  

Soulcatcher: /Buncha hypocritical wankers =]


To be fair, I've defended both films with the same premise. And for personally I think STID was a great popcorn movie with enough Trek to be Trek.

The lens flare got a little annoying though
 
2013-07-01 02:53:44 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Soulcatcher: /Buncha hypocritical wankers =]

To be fair, I've defended both films with the same premise. And for personally I think STID was a great popcorn movie with enough Trek to be Trek.

The lens flare got a little annoying though


I know that. You seem to be a very nice person    =]

I don't mind the lens flare all that much. I usually only see the really big films in the theatre anyway, and they tend to be pretty loud and indulgent in a lot of ways.
 
2013-07-01 03:02:50 PM  

FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies

Past examples:
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen vs Van Helsing
Iron Eagle vs Top Gun
A Bugs Life vs Antz
Despicable Me vs Megamind

Armageddon and that one with Morgan ... Oh deep impact

or the two volcano movies, dante's peak and volcano, which both came out the same time.


Backdoor Nurses vol II and  Bootie Howser MD.  I mean cripes they were almost the exact same movie and they came out within like a week of each other.  Plus Backdoor nurses Vol II really wasn't anything more than Vol I. The didn't move the story line along very much. It was pretty much just a compliation of butt sex, and very few nurses,
 
2013-07-01 03:07:07 PM  

thecpt: Secretariat and sex and the city 2


i611.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-01 03:17:57 PM  

Soulcatcher: mjbok: Carth: mjbok: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Not quite.

220 domestic = 110
218 foreign = 33
110 + 33 = 133

Budget was 190. It will get into the black with HBO and DVD.

I thought STID was released with the new international contract for 35% of ticket sales and 55% domestic? Did Hollywood economist lie to me?

It's possible. I hadn't heard that. If that is correct, it is still about 4 million short, plus marketing which had to approach 75 million. It will get there...eventually, but starting that deep in the whole makes final profits slim.

It doesn't open in Japan until August. They'll make some nice monies there.


Lets say Japan was the only market left that would add money (I know it's not, but it makes the math easier). Figuring they are about 60 million (56 and change) short right now, with foreign BO returning 15%, that would mean it would have to do 400 million in Japan.

It will end up in the black. It probably will not in theatrical distribution.
 
2013-07-01 03:21:42 PM  
Did anyone else get the amusing visual justaposition of an article talking about how badly the movie did OVER TOP of a screen wide ad for the movie.
 
2013-07-01 03:29:36 PM  

Soulcatcher: I don't mind the lens flare all that much. I usually only see the really big films in the theatre anyway, and they tend to be pretty loud and indulgent in a lot of ways.


I think this year is going to be the year of everything over the top from Superman punching a city block off the face of the map to a giant robot using a carrier as a sword on a giant lizard

.....I'm worried I'm going to get ConAir like splosion overload
 
2013-07-01 03:35:48 PM  

Soulcatcher: Carth: Star Trek Into Darkness must have broke even by now. Nearly 440 million world wide

Well according to the Fark STID haters, even if STID hits 750m worldwide it is still an abject failure and there will be no third installment.

Personally, I loved it.

What I'm really loving now is seeing the same people that trashed the new Trek movies for being "Trek in name only" and changing too much, too drastically, circle their wagons in defense of MoS where the SAME people argue that a new direction had to be taken to revitalize the franchise and make Superman appealing to a new audience to keep it alive. So he behaves differently? So what?

/Buncha hypocritical wankers      =]


I liked both. Odd because I don't like Star Trek or superman. Maybe that is a sign
 
2013-07-01 03:40:20 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: If I want to watch "Die Hard" I'll watch "Die Hard."

I'm starting to worry about Roland Emmerich. If he decided to make a Victorian period drama about the peccadilloes of former ladies' maids attempting to raise their status through marriage the script would still read "FADE UP FROM BLACK: The White House Explodes!"


You just know he wants to do a War of 1812 movie where Dolly Madison (played by Jennifer Lawrence) runs out of  the burning White House with the Lansdowne portrait in her hands as the building explodes behind her.
 
2013-07-01 04:05:49 PM  

Danger Mouse: FlashHarry: thecpt: texdent: This is called DUeling Movies


How many time did you watch?
cinema.com
.....None!

cinema.com
Are sure?.......two sex soul sisters.....

Backdoor Nurses vol II and  Bootie Howser MD.  I mean cripes they were almost the exact same movie and they came out within like a week of each other.  Plus Backdoor nurses Vol II really wasn't anything more than Vol I. The didn't move the story line along very much. It was pretty much just a compliation of butt sex, and very few nurses,
 
2013-07-01 04:30:20 PM  

brigid_fitch: I think it's suffering more from Olympus Has Fallen being out already.  The first thing I thought of when I saw the White House Down trailer was, "Where's Gerard Butler?"


This definitely this. To add to the mix, it is out when World War Z is out and Superman. It doesn't matter who does the better movie, unfortunately having both of the same premises and types of movies being portrayed devalues both - and especially the one that comes out later.
 
2013-07-01 05:19:55 PM  
I thought it was a fun movie, though the PG-13 rating hurt it in certain places. There's some genuinely funny one-liners, though.

I won't lie: this entire summer is really just killing time until Pacific Rim.
 
2013-07-01 05:20:01 PM  
When I saw the trailer for WHD at the theater a woman behind me asked her date, "Is that a real movie?"
 
2013-07-01 05:20:24 PM  

EnviroDude: I saw WHD this weekend. If one substitutes Obama for Fox, you get a new perspective on how the pro Obaba producers think of him.

Bonus. Substitute Angry white Tea Party"  for the bad guys and get a laugh

/ eat set egg:  Ayn Rand reference of The Fountainhead.

// decent flick, not as good as Olympus Has Fallen


Does it give you a headache to view everything through the warped lens of your political views?
 
2013-07-01 07:13:48 PM  

Madbassist1: EnviroDude: I saw WHD this weekend. If one substitutes Obama for Fox, you get a new perspective on how the pro Obaba producers think of him.

Bonus. Substitute Angry white Tea Party"  for the bad guys and get a laugh

/ eat set egg:  Ayn Rand reference of The Fountainhead.

// decent flick, not as good as Olympus Has Fallen

Does it give you a headache to view everything through the warped lens of your political views?


It just amuses me that the only person in the thread who saw the movie is the guy who is basically wrong about everything.
 
2013-07-01 08:37:10 PM  
I watched Olympus Has Fallen this weekend. It was neat that a ton of people got shot and stuff got blown up, but the script was stupid and the actors were horrible.

**SPOILER** The part that completely confused me was this:
Activating the Cerberus program and detonating them in their chambers causes the nukes to explode destroying the U.S. and its some 300 million people. Go figure, the U.S. has all three of these people in the same room in the same building at the same time (even though not even KFC allows all the people that know its secret spices to be together). Anyway, so the POTUS orders the Admiral and SecDef to give up their codes because, "HE WILL NEVER TELL!". The terrorists decide to steal the POTUS's child to force him into; however the hero gets the son out of the White House. HOWEVER, all of a sudden the movie showed that the 3rd code (the President's) was entered and the countdown for Cerberus continued.

The POTUS was adamant the entire time about not giving up HIS code. Then AFTER his child is safe, he just suddenly gives up the code without a fight? I don't understand. Also, if the United States and all it's people are about to die a fiery death, why did SecDef and the main Admiral give up their codes? I've heard of people dieing for much less then THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES AND HER PEOPLE. What about Morgan Freeman on the outside of the White House. If the U.S. is about to be blown up why wouldn't you destroy every square inch of that bunker? Surely, even with its "nuclear resistant wall" we could have figured out a way to kill the people inside if it meant everyone else would die.
 
2013-07-01 11:29:06 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I watched Olympus Has Fallen this weekend. It was neat that a ton of people got shot and stuff got blown up, but the script was stupid and the actors were horrible.

**SPOILER** The part that completely confused me was this:
Activating the Cerberus program and detonating them in their chambers causes the nukes to explode destroying the U.S. and its some 300 million people. Go figure, the U.S. has all three of these people in the same room in the same building at the same time (even though not even KFC allows all the people that know its secret spices to be together). Anyway, so the POTUS orders the Admiral and SecDef to give up their codes because, "HE WILL NEVER TELL!". The terrorists decide to steal the POTUS's child to force him into; however the hero gets the son out of the White House. HOWEVER, all of a sudden the movie showed that the 3rd code (the President's) was entered and the countdown for Cerberus continued.

The POTUS was adamant the entire time about not giving up HIS code. Then AFTER his child is safe, he just suddenly gives up the code without a fight? I don't understand. Also, if the United States and all it's people are about to die a fiery death, why did SecDef and the main Admiral give up their codes? I've heard of people dieing for much less then THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES AND HER PEOPLE. What about Morgan Freeman on the outside of the White House. If the U.S. is about to be blown up why wouldn't you destroy every square inch of that bunker? Surely, even with its "nuclear resistant wall" we could have figured out a way to kill the people inside if it meant everyone else would die.


They hacked (by brute force, apparently) his code.  He never gave it up.  The President ordered the others to give up their codes expecting that when they got to him, he'd have all the time in the world to tell them to fark off.

That wasn't the problem with that particular plot thread.  I alluded to this in my earlier post about the movie, but since it's in the open now, here goes: NUCLEAR WEAPONS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY.  Self-destructing them in the silos probably would kill anyone in the immediate area (by that, I mean people in the silos with them), but they are not going to go nuclear.  I understand realism wasn't a priority for that movie, but when the North Koreans' endgame was revealed, a part of me wished that the President would have stood up and said, "Are you farking serious?  Ah, fark it.  Good luck with that."
 
2013-07-01 11:59:26 PM  

HellRaisingHoosier: I watched Olympus Has Fallen this weekend. It was neat that a ton of people got shot and stuff got blown up, but the script was stupid and the actors were horrible.


Spoiler

I really liked the realism behind 20k+ US military personal evacuating South Korea and the entire 7th fleet returning to the US in under an hour.
 
2013-07-02 04:46:31 AM  
 
2013-07-02 06:45:30 AM  

Mikey1969: "I think the fact that we have a female-centric movie standing out in a forest of giant tent-pole movies is phenomenal," said Chris Aronson, Fox's president of domestic distribution.

Wow, did nobody pick up the penis imagery from this dude?


Some people just see dicks everywhere they look.
 
2013-07-02 11:28:38 AM  
um.  anyone else see man of steel and just get bored to death once Zod and Supes started beating on each other?

/actually like Superman Returns more.
 
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