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(Opposing Views)   Utah's Second Amendment advocates have organized an open carry run. Running with loaded guns, what could possibly go wrong?   (opposingviews.com) divider line 234
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2013-07-01 08:34:19 AM  
Pretty much nothing.

I love these "what could possibly go wrong" headlines, because they couldn't possibly be more wrong.
 
2013-07-01 08:41:11 AM  
I wonder if these guys masturbate with their guns.
 
2013-07-01 08:51:00 AM  
Uh-oh, I planned my 10K Burqa Run and Fun on the same day. I hope there's no route crossover as we know how tolerant these gun enthusiasts are.

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2013-07-01 08:55:03 AM  
Hopefully they have ample Hoveround charging stations
 
2013-07-01 08:57:31 AM  
I'm pro second amendment, but the fetishization of firearms by some of these people is goddamned creepy.
 
2013-07-01 09:03:15 AM  
Running with guns?

i2.listal.com

/Touchdown!
 
2013-07-01 09:13:52 AM  
Whiting said that anyone who thinks there could be an accident doesn't have enough experience with firearms.

I would think the opposite would be true, the people with the least experience with firearms would be most likely to underestimate the potential for something to go wrong.
 
2013-07-01 09:35:45 AM  
nothing could go wrong idiot libtard submitter.
 
2013-07-01 09:35:48 AM  

Barfmaker: Whiting said that anyone who thinks there could be an accident doesn't have enough experience with firearms.

I would think the opposite would be true, the people with the least experience with firearms would be most likely to underestimate the potential for something to go wrong.


Plus with gun owners expanding the definition of "accident" to "give a five year old a loaded rifle then leave him unattended to murder his sister", I'd say the potential is there.
 
2013-07-01 09:36:38 AM  

stpauler: Uh-oh, I planned my 10K Burqa Run and Fun on the same day. I hope there's no route crossover as we know how tolerant these gun enthusiasts are.

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Generalizations all around. Gotta love it.
 
2013-07-01 09:37:36 AM  
That's fine, as long as the safeties are on. And that all the guns HAVE safeties. And some trigger locks... And no ammunition whatsoever...

But hey! Way to make guns seem like a harmless toy! Next you should drive cars off cliffs to show how safe they are!
 
2013-07-01 09:37:40 AM  
Is this sort of thing not what safeties were invented for?
 
2013-07-01 09:37:42 AM  

Barfmaker: Whiting said that anyone who thinks there could be an accident doesn't have enough experience with firearms.

I would think the opposite would be true, the people with the least experience with firearms would be most likely to underestimate the potential for something to go wrong.


Especially considering that at gun shows there are the occasional accidental discharge. Expecting everything to go perfectly is a good way to ensure something goes wrong. There is nothing wrong with being extra cautious and planning for how to deal with accidents.
 
2013-07-01 09:37:50 AM  
So, if nothing DOES go wrong, subby will be somehow reminded of this headline?
 
2013-07-01 09:37:55 AM  

Feltonl: nothing could go wrong idiot libtard submitter.



You make a great and well-reasoned point and articulate it beautifully. I am convinced.
 
2013-07-01 09:38:09 AM  

Aarontology: I'm pro second amendment, but the fetishization of firearms by some of these people is goddamned creepy.


Hey, when your wife no longer touches you anymore and instead reads Fifty Shades of Grey fanfiction every night, these guys gotta get their kicks from somewhere.

Seriously though, the first thing you are taught when given a gun is that you are responsible for everything that happens to that firearm. Running a 5k falls under the "Do not do, moron" category.
 
2013-07-01 09:38:28 AM  

Feltonl: nothing could go wrong idiot libtard submitter.


How about running shorts falling down around ankles while trying to hold up the gun strapped to it? I don't even like running with keys in my pocket.
 
2013-07-01 09:38:35 AM  
TFA:

Runners will have to secure their firearm in a holster or zip tie so it is disabled and the trigger can't be pulled.

So.... there's this part that everyone seems to have skimmed over.
 
2013-07-01 09:39:10 AM  
My initial quick misreading involved running with open containers (of alcohol).

I like my idea better.
 
2013-07-01 09:41:10 AM  
Not really getting the point of this.

Sure, you can jog around with a bunch of people with peace-tied pistols, but, you know...why?

/shrug
 
2013-07-01 09:41:15 AM  
Nothing, that's what.
 
2013-07-01 09:41:38 AM  
I doubt too many serious runners want to run carrying something, so the biggest problem is probably fat middle aged wannabee tough guys having heart attacks.
 
2013-07-01 09:42:13 AM  
wild pigs heard to.say NOPE MADAFAKAS and seen fleeing across the border to hastily setup refugee camps
 
2013-07-01 09:42:26 AM  
Maybe they can fire guns into the air and at each other in celebration when they cross the finish line!

Who am I kidding, gun nuts can't run 0.5 miles. They'll probably just pull their gun out and steal a bike from a kid or something.

AMURIKAH!
 
2013-07-01 09:42:48 AM  

AndreMA: My initial quick misreading involved running with open containers (of alcohol).

I like my idea better.


They call that "hashing".
 
2013-07-01 09:46:04 AM  
Don't the police run around all the time with loaded weapons?

How about these guys? These guys look armed.
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2013-07-01 09:46:58 AM  
And what purpose does this serve exactly?

/Will never understand gun nuts.
 
2013-07-01 09:47:44 AM  
Meanwhile the US arms rebels in Syria to fight a proxy war. Indiscriminately bomb the fark out of another country, use drones to kill people, strip your rights, listen to your calls, provide federal funding for your police departments to buy armored tanks and give your farking money away to bankers in a undisclosed agreement for their failure. The anti-gun crowd is "good" with that.

Governments (all) are the greatest mass murders in history and they need people like you to support them.
 
2013-07-01 09:49:57 AM  

clancifer: I wonder if these guys masturbate with their guns.


Nah. The bead sight keeps hanging up on their anuses.
 
2013-07-01 09:50:55 AM  

clancifer: I wonder if these guys masturbate with their guns.


DRINK!!
 
2013-07-01 09:51:05 AM  

socoloco: Meanwhile the US arms rebels in Syria to fight a proxy war. Indiscriminately bomb the fark out of another country, use drones to kill people, strip your rights, listen to your calls, provide federal funding for your police departments to buy armored tanks and give your farking money away to bankers in a undisclosed agreement for their failure. The anti-gun crowd is "good" with that.

Governments (all) are the greatest mass murders in history and they need people like you to support them.


Thank you.
 
2013-07-01 09:51:10 AM  
Will Aaron Hernandez be coaching them?
 
2013-07-01 09:51:19 AM  
This is just f**king childish. These people are NOT grownups.
 
2013-07-01 09:52:44 AM  

Facetious_Speciest: Not really getting the point of this.

Sure, you can jog around with a bunch of people with peace-tied pistols, but, you know...why?

/shrug


Because just having a gun strapped to their waist gives them tingles in their naughty bits?
 
2013-07-01 09:54:28 AM  

This text is now purple: Don't the police run around all the time with loaded weapons?

How about these guys? These guys look armed.
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They look serious and all, but why did they put Lt. Dumbass in the middle there?
 
2013-07-01 09:56:06 AM  
This makes as much sense as a first amendment footrace where you have to shout out the text of the Constitution while running.
 
2013-07-01 09:57:53 AM  
These gun threads are great. Maybe being in the military gave me a bit of a bias, but the same arguments come up every single time and stubborn dreamers with their heads in the clouds just can't seem to understand why guns are a necessary thing. I offer the following:

1. Pot is illegal (mostly). As a matter of fact our government has a "war" on drugs. Is pot still around (everywhere)? Yup. Same thing with guns.
2. If you make them illegal, only lawbreakers will have them. They will be hidden, non-regulated, non-maintained, and just as deadly. The exception to this is that the police will still carry them, as will the military. If that doesn't scare you enough, realize that the IRS was just busted for providing paramilitary training with assault rifles. The creators of this nation put the ownership of weapons so highly because they knew that any "good" government was only a temporary thing. One day you will have to defend yourself and your family. Hopefully we will have more than rocks and catapults.
3. The world is an ugly, scary place. Just because America gives up firearms, doesn't mean that the rest of the world (most of which do not like us by the way) will do the same thing.
4. Burying your head in the sand does not solve any problem. Ban guns, and people will use knives. Education in the form of safety and respect for the weapon is where are this attention needs to go.

Just remember people, when two fully populated planes crashed into the world trade center, the armed hijackers had box cutters. Over a hundred people, and not one lifted a finger because of box cutters. Imagine if one responsible person was carrying a 9mm and made the decision to use it. Worst case scenario? Collateral damage to the plane, maybe a hostage or two killed. Best case scenario? Three thousand people get to keep breathing.
 
2013-07-01 09:58:14 AM  

Marcus Aurelius: This makes as much sense as a first amendment footrace where you have to shout out the text of the Constitution while running.


I'd pay to see our congresspeople do that. Seems like a good beer and popcorn show.
 
2013-07-01 09:58:25 AM  
You'll put your eye out, kid!
 
2013-07-01 10:01:20 AM  

EvilAvatar: Over a hundred people, and not one lifted a finger because of box cutters. Imagine if one responsible person was carrying a 9mm and made the decision to use it.


... How is that different from if one responsible person had a knife? Or a box cutter? The lack of guns wasn't the issue on those planes. It was the psychological effect.

I'm not anti-gun, but that's a really horrible argument.
 
2013-07-01 10:03:11 AM  

Grandemadaca: Feltonl: nothing could go wrong idiot libtard submitter.

How about running shorts falling down around ankles while trying to hold up the gun strapped to it? I don't even like running with keys in my pocket.


You have fallen in to his clever linguistic trap and thus outed yourself as an "idiot libtard". All "real 'muricans" know that guns are so awesome they PREVENT accidents, including shorts falling down.

Ha! Now don't YOU feel silly?!?!?
 
2013-07-01 10:04:03 AM  

EvilAvatar: These gun threads are great. Maybe being in the military gave me a bit of a bias, but the same arguments come up every single time and stubborn dreamers with their heads in the clouds just can't seem to understand why guns are a necessary thing. I offer the following:

1. Pot is illegal (mostly). As a matter of fact our government has a "war" on drugs. Is pot still around (everywhere)? Yup. Same thing with guns.
2. If you make them illegal, only lawbreakers will have them.


So why have laws at all?

Marcus Aurelius: This makes as much sense as a first amendment footrace where you have to shout out the text of the Constitution while running.


I'd love to see gun nuts try and quote the second amendment in its entirety. "It says we can have all the guns we want! Bear arms! WOOHOO" would be my best guess.
 
2013-07-01 10:06:07 AM  

Aarontology: I'm pro second amendment, but the fetishization of firearms by some of these people is goddamned creepy.


I'm pro choice, but the fetishization of third trimester abortions by some of these people is goddamned creepy.
 
2013-07-01 10:06:14 AM  

Brittabot: And what purpose does this serve exactly?



Providing another example that "responsible" gun owners are idiots, I guess.

If you want to go have a march, fine. But it this is truly a 5k "run", the standard operating proceedure for running is wearing the lightest, least encumbering clothing as possible. There's a reason that even beginning running shoes are often rated down to the fraction of ounces. The last thing any runner wants is some relatively heavy piece of metal, at best tied down to one side of you body or at worst, flapping around. You are just bringing a weapon into an environment whe it doesn't belong to score some self-tallied Man-Points.

Truly responisble gun owners don't have this need to show off their weaponry at every moment of their lives.
 
2013-07-01 10:06:38 AM  

radiumsoup: TFA:

Runners will have to secure their firearm in a holster or zip tie so it is disabled and the trigger can't be pulled.

So.... there's this part that everyone seems to have skimmed over.


Why would they do that?  Guns are perfectly safe and designed to be that way.  What's next, requiring trigger locks or guns to be stored where kids can't access them?  This requirement is an unnecessary and illegal infringement on the runners 2nd amendment rights.

Famous Thamas: They look serious and all, but why did they put Lt. Dumbass in the middle there?


Heh, noticed that guy too.  Lt. Dumbass is my hero.
 
2013-07-01 10:06:50 AM  

jso2897: This is just f**king childish. These people are NOT grownups.


THIS!

I am pretty anti-gun myself, but I have no real problem with gun owners who are truly responsible, keep their guns locked up when not in use, and don't do idiotic things like buy guns for their 5 year olds. And I don't advocate banning all guns or anything like that.

But people like those in TFA seem to just be running around with their guns like "Neener neener! I'm gonna wave this dangerous weapon around for no real purpose other than the fact that there's nothing anyone can do about it because SECOND AMENDMENT WHARGARBLE!!!"

I appreciate that they're trying to do something good by giving the proceeds to a charity for victims of gun violence, but that just seems unseemly to me.

"Let's show how safe these guns are by waving them around like idiots to raise money for people injured by guns being waved around by idiots!!!"
 
2013-07-01 10:07:09 AM  

Facetious_Speciest: Not really getting the point of this.

Sure, you can jog around with a bunch of people with peace-tied pistols, but, you know...why?



Because cold dead hands, well regulated means no regulations ever, and goddam libtard gungrabbers.  That's why!
 
2013-07-01 10:08:12 AM  
Sounds like this event is just a bunch of people walking/running with holstered pistols.  Nothing to worry about, IMO, as none of them should have any reason to draw.  As long as the guns stay holstered, they can't (barring highly unlikely mechanical malfunctions) go off, and therefore, the danger level of this event is equivalent to (or possibly lower than) the "normal" danger level of the area it's being held in.
 
2013-07-01 10:08:47 AM  
Why would you run carrying extra weight? And you'd be unbalanced, too. This is just dumb.
 
2013-07-01 10:09:24 AM  
1. Pot is illegal (mostly). As a matter of fact our government has a "war" on drugs. Is pot still around (everywhere)? Yup. Same thing with guns.

And pot has killed how many people? Your comparison is a really stupid fail.


 2. If you make them illegal, only lawbreakers will have them.

 Yeah, just like the huge proliferation of lawn jarts after they became illegal. Oh, is that comparison stupid like the pot one too?


3. The world is an ugly, scary place. Just because America gives up firearms, doesn't mean that the rest of the world (most of which do not like us by the way) will do the same thing.

I'm surprised you can get internet in your fallout shelter. BTW, ever wonder why the rest of the world does not like us as you claim? Could it be that we bust in with guns and change regimes as we feel like it? (See: Iran)


 4. Burying your head in the sand does not solve any problem. Ban guns, and people will use knives. Education in the form of safety and respect for the weapon is where are this attention needs to go.

But we already are using knives to cut our food, show me a gun that can gingerly slice up a chateaubriand without searing it and you have a point.
 
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