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(CNN)   Cirque du Soleil no longer scoffs at using safety nets   (cnn.com) divider line 34
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2013-07-01 06:45:57 AM  
3 votes:
Man, that's terrible.  I've seen most of their Vegas shows.  There are very few times I've spent nearly $200/seat for a show and walked out thinking it was worth every penny but that's what I paid for front row at O and, daaaayum.  Most other shows are crap after CdS.
2013-07-01 06:15:43 AM  
3 votes:

WillofJ2: Spad31: FTFA: "The cause of death had not been determined..."

How about gravity, falling and a sudden stop on the stage?

I read that, and was coming to comment, maybe it was sabotage?  Otherwise physics took another live


She could have had a heart attack or other cardiac event, an aneurism, or a sudden drop in blood sugar that caused her to pass out or lose her grip. Any of a number of medical events (or a mechanical problem with the equipment) could have caused her to fall.

Even if hitting the stage did her in, they have to determine what exactly killed her. Did she break a rib, which impaled a lung or sliced an artery, causing her to hemorrhage internally? Did her skull get crushed? Did she land on a pile of razor blades?

"She fell" isn't an official cause of death.
2013-07-01 02:27:45 AM  
3 votes:
FTFA: "The cause of death had not been determined..."

How about gravity, falling and a sudden stop on the stage?
2013-07-01 02:27:36 PM  
2 votes:

srschatzer: Where does the line form for me to complain my headline was better?

"Wow, a performance of a lifetime!"

/too soon?
//too snarky for even Farky?

Also:  She was 22 and had been performing with Ka since it opened in 2006, does my math tell me she started performing at age 15?


The "22" you saw is the number of years she had been doing acrobatics, which isn't unusual; we have 14-year-old gymnasts in the Olympics after all.
2013-07-01 08:59:49 AM  
2 votes:

akuma976: The wife and I saw Ka a couple years ago and I loved it.  It's full of martial arts, fire, amazing stunts and one big azz moving stage.  Hope they don't close the show down.


They did, and it will probably be permanent.  I'm sure they will tighten up on the safety for the other shows.

I've seen both Delerium and just recently, Quidam.  Delerium was a much better show, but I still enjoyed both.  Given that it's taken this long for a death to happen vs. the stunts they do, they seem to be doing pretty well trying to keep it as safe as possible.  When you're doing stunts as high as they are, you can only make it so safe and still call it a "death-defying show".

/if you want a net, go to the circus
//last "circus" I went to had acrobats attempting and failing stunts all the time; it was pretty pathetic
2013-07-01 08:52:13 AM  
2 votes:

The Stealth Hippopotamus: 30 years of shows with events happening around the world. It shocking it took this long.


Yea I'm kind of on that boat too. They should do everything they can to make it safe and injuries or deaths shouldn't just be acceptable. That said, they have how many performers working for them and how many deaths? There are other people who die cutting down trees, mining, working at a granary, cleaning your shiat water and nobody is saying 'SHUT IT DOWN!' to them.
2013-07-01 08:39:14 AM  
2 votes:
This sucks.  I always thought the Cirque shows were the kind of artsy fartsy stuff I couldn't watch without herbal assistance.

The wife and I saw Ka a couple years ago and I loved it.  It's full of martial arts, fire, amazing stunts and one big azz moving stage.  Hope they don't close the show down.
2013-07-01 08:19:27 AM  
2 votes:
30 years of shows with events happening around the world. It shocking it took this long.
2013-07-01 04:03:44 AM  
2 votes:
That used to be the EFX Theater until MGM maimed too many people.
I was a Day One employee there, and they must've injured an hundred dancers rehearsing for the EFX show.  The star of the show, Michael Crawford was injured going down a zip line and he was forced to retire from show business for awhile on account of his injuries.
2013-07-01 03:51:03 AM  
2 votes:
Sorry, Twitch Boy, that was biatchy of me.
2013-07-01 02:57:56 AM  
2 votes:
Actually saw Ka when I was in Vegas.

A section of the stage floor rotates to vertical and leaves a big pit for the bad guys to fall into.  They even play a nice unsettling "boom" noise when someone falls down it during the act.  I'd guess she missed the pit entirely and flopped onto what's left of the stage.  That's not fun.
2013-07-01 02:41:02 PM  
1 votes:
During the scene, performers are suspended up to 50 feet in the air on lines controlled by wireless remote controls, according to the troupe's website.

Well there's your problem.  As a theatre nerd, I would never trust critical portions of a show on anything wireless if a wired alternative exists. Wireless mics are a necessary evil, but when it comes to DMX and MIDI signals for lights, curtains, and pretty much everything else, the unpredictability of using wireless during a show far outweighs the usefulness of reduced cabling/rigging times.
2013-07-01 12:08:20 PM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: A Cirque friend is spamming up my FB feed with this story. Last year (to the day, apparently) he fell off the stage himself and broke several ribs.

The show isn't safe and as the stages get older, there are going to be many more accidents like this as the wires and hinges and welds weaken.

I've seen many of the Cirque shows, but I'd rather see them go out on top now than to see them slink away after another bunch of accidents.


You've already seen them, so they should quit before others can? Or are you saying its ok for people to risk their lives to get to the top, but then they have to quit?

spidermilk: There are other people who die cutting down trees [etc]


This.  More people died getting the materials together for their stage than have died performing on it. Also, I am willing to bet these performers love their careers, whereas your average steel worker risks his life for a middle class income.
2013-07-01 10:46:46 AM  
1 votes:

iron_city_ap: Spad31: FTFA: "The cause of death had not been determined..."

How about gravity, falling and a sudden stop on the stage?

Maybe its just me, but it seems pretty obvious that she was killed by a grizzly bear.


Could have been a heart attack and she was dead before she ever fell. Or brain aneurysm. Did anyone hear her scream when she fell? Believe you me I've fallen before and everyone in a 2 mile radius knew it! And that was just off a one story roof!
2013-07-01 10:36:43 AM  
1 votes:

karmachameleon: wellreadneck: The comments section reads like the Fark Politics's tab.

lol, you aren't kidding.  A classic example of, "Never read the bottom half of the internet".


I've never heard that, but now it's going to be my personal motto.

I've never seen any Cirque du Soleil shows but I admire their dedication to an entertainment that is never going to be perfectly safe.
2013-07-01 10:29:46 AM  
1 votes:

AverageAmericanGuy: A Cirque friend is spamming up my FB feed with this story. Last year (to the day, apparently) he fell off the stage himself and broke several ribs.

The show isn't safe and as the stages get older, there are going to be many more accidents like this as the wires and hinges and welds weaken.

I've seen many of the Cirque shows, but I'd rather see them go out on top now than to see them slink away after another bunch of accidents.




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2013-07-01 10:17:51 AM  
1 votes:

jtown: Man, that's terrible.  I've seen most of their Vegas shows.  There are very few times I've spent nearly $200/seat for a show and walked out thinking it was worth every penny but that's what I paid for front row at O and, daaaayum.  Most other shows are crap after CdS.


This!

There are some really crappy shows in Vegas but we paid like $175 per seat for Ka (and $20 each for a Margarita) and the show anyways was worth every penny. Truly original. Highest production values. Flawless execution. Visually stunning and perfect sound.

Same for Blue Man Group. Expensive tickets, but damn. Worth it.

Let's hear it for new, well done, original entertainment.

/bummer about the accident
2013-07-01 09:45:24 AM  
1 votes:
Turns out the wire supporting her snapped.
2013-07-01 09:16:32 AM  
1 votes:
I saw Ka a few years back- it's possibly the most impressive stage ever built.  There are five moveable chunks- the main stage is 25x50 and rotates around every axis.  It switches between horizontal and vertical multiple times during the show. A fair number of the performers fall off of it (deliberately) while it's vertical: the fall's something over 50 feet down into the pit.

Amazing show: really sucks hearing about this
2013-07-01 09:13:36 AM  
1 votes:
Ka is fantastic. Saw it twice. Hopefully they bring it back.

//Also surprised it took this long before someone got killed... Those tricks look brutal.
2013-07-01 08:20:12 AM  
1 votes:
That's a shame.  CSB time, I saw someone at the renfest who performed there, can't recall his name but he used to work with Marcel Marceau.  He was a mime, and I never thought a mime could be in any way entertaining, I was oh so wrong!  Arsene Duprene or something like that was his name.
2013-07-01 08:12:16 AM  
1 votes:

WillofJ2: suicide: bighairyguy: She should track down Owen Hart and swap stories.

I dunno what she'd get out of it, really. He was never quite the showstopper she was.

did they continue that event when he died?


Yeah. The commentators told the TV audience what was up (hence the term "Owen voice" for the obviously uneasy and serious tone they used) but the people in attendance had no idea what happened.
2013-07-01 08:11:10 AM  
1 votes:
Does this mean the performers in Zumanity will start using condoms?
2013-07-01 08:04:38 AM  
1 votes:

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Derp: "Guyard-Guillot, a 31-year-old mother of two young children, ..."

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2013-07-01 07:39:40 AM  
1 votes:

karmachameleon: wellreadneck: The comments section reads like the Fark Politics's tab.

lol, you aren't kidding.  A classic example of, "Never read the bottom half of the internet".


isn't every article with comments this?  to be honest, fark is this on many a day.  it gets tiring, really.
2013-07-01 07:38:38 AM  
1 votes:

jtown: Man, that's terrible.  I've seen most of their Vegas shows.  There are very few times I've spent nearly $200/seat for a show and walked out thinking it was worth every penny but that's what I paid for front row at O and, daaaayum.  Most other shows are crap after CdS.


You should visit the circus in Peru, Indiana, third week of July.
2013-07-01 07:11:18 AM  
1 votes:

jtown: Man, that's terrible.  I've seen most of their Vegas shows.  There are very few times I've spent nearly $200/seat for a show and walked out thinking it was worth every penny but that's what I paid for front row at O and, daaaayum.  Most other shows are crap after CdS.


This is the truth.

As for miscues, the only one I've seen was a jumping rope breakage at the (now closed) Zed show in Tokyo. The Vegas shows and South American shows all went pitch perfect.
2013-07-01 07:03:48 AM  
1 votes:
My favorite part of Cirque du Soleil are the contortionists.  Mmmmm... little bendy women.

The things I would do to them...  mmmmmmmmm...
2013-07-01 07:00:16 AM  
1 votes:

wellreadneck: The comments section reads like the Fark Politics's tab.


lol, you aren't kidding.  A classic example of, "Never read the bottom half of the internet".
2013-07-01 06:31:16 AM  
1 votes:

MadAzza: WillofJ2: Spad31: FTFA: "The cause of death had not been determined..."

How about gravity, falling and a sudden stop on the stage?

I read that, and was coming to comment, maybe it was sabotage?  Otherwise physics took another live

She could have had a heart attack or other cardiac event, an aneurism, or a sudden drop in blood sugar that caused her to pass out or lose her grip. Any of a number of medical events (or a mechanical problem with the equipment) could have caused her to fall.

Even if hitting the stage did her in, they have to determine what exactly killed her. Did she break a rib, which impaled a lung or sliced an artery, causing her to hemorrhage internally? Did her skull get crushed? Did she land on a pile of razor blades?

"She fell" isn't an official cause of death.


How about ''she landed'' as the official cause of death?
2013-07-01 06:30:08 AM  
1 votes:

MadAzza: WillofJ2: Spad31: FTFA: "The cause of death had not been determined..."

How about gravity, falling and a sudden stop on the stage?

I read that, and was coming to comment, maybe it was sabotage?  Otherwise physics took another live

She could have had a heart attack or other cardiac event, an aneurism, or a sudden drop in blood sugar that caused her to pass out or lose her grip. Any of a number of medical events (or a mechanical problem with the equipment) could have caused her to fall.

Even if hitting the stage did her in, they have to determine what exactly killed her. Did she break a rib, which impaled a lung or sliced an artery, causing her to hemorrhage internally? Did her skull get crushed? Did she land on a pile of razor blades?

"She fell" isn't an official cause of death.


Reminded me of a saw movie
2013-07-01 05:47:37 AM  
1 votes:

Spad31: FTFA: "The cause of death had not been determined..."

How about gravity, falling and a sudden stop on the stage?


I read that, and was coming to comment, maybe it was sabotage?  Otherwise physics took another live
2013-07-01 03:36:11 AM  
1 votes:

Twitch Boy: Actually saw Ka when I was in Vegas.


"Actually"?
2013-07-01 01:55:02 AM  
1 votes:
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