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(io9)   Quantum tunneling might allow space booze to exist   (io9.com) divider line 22
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2013-06-30 10:26:06 PM
It just goes to show that alcohol is so important, it forms even when it shouldn't.

/I suspect the same thing occurs for bacon
 
2013-06-30 10:31:12 PM
Romulan ale?
 
2013-06-30 10:56:02 PM
farm2.static.flickr.com
 
2013-06-30 10:58:21 PM
There's no "might allow" about it. A
288 billion mile wide cloud of alcohol was already found back in 2006.
 
2013-06-30 11:01:26 PM

Albinoman: There's no "might allow" about it. A
288 billion mile wide cloud of alcohol was already found back in 2006.


I thought we weren't going to talk about your mom.
 
2013-06-30 11:05:11 PM

Marcus Aurelius: [farm2.static.flickr.com image 850x475]


El Dorado?
 
2013-06-30 11:06:53 PM
 
2013-06-30 11:10:10 PM

Marcus Aurelius: bearded clamorer: El Dorado?

Don't mind if I do.


I'll have what you're having.
 
2013-06-30 11:14:57 PM

Albinoman: There's no "might allow" about it. A
288 billion mile wide cloud of alcohol was already found back in 2006.


upload.wikimedia.org

Personally thrilled to hear it.
 
2013-06-30 11:21:08 PM

bearded clamorer: Marcus Aurelius: bearded clamorer: El Dorado?

Don't mind if I do.

I'll have what you're having.


It costs extra.
 
2013-06-30 11:31:30 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Albinoman: There's no "might allow" about it. A
288 billion mile wide cloud of alcohol was already found back in 2006.

I thought we weren't going to talk about your mom.


I thought it was just another Lindsay Lohan thread.
 
2013-07-01 01:05:59 AM

Marcus Aurelius: Albinoman: There's no "might allow" about it. A
288 billion mile wide cloud of alcohol was already found back in 2006.

I thought we weren't going to talk about your mom.


Nah, this must be a southern relative. You can tell cause its a methanol cloud. If it was my mom it'd be a cloud of pot smoke.
 
2013-07-01 01:43:01 AM
fc01.deviantart.net
 
2013-07-01 03:30:30 AM
What? no 307 Ale?
 
2013-07-01 03:57:14 AM
Ahhhh...more like space-hobo booze. Methanol is not for drinking if you'd like to enjoy a long lifespan.
 
2013-07-01 05:55:13 AM

mooseyfate: [fc01.deviantart.net image 480x384]


Ah, yes. Quarians. The most retarded species that ever managed FTL travel.

Much like panda bears they deserve to go extinct.
 
2013-07-01 05:59:18 AM

DerAppie: mooseyfate: [fc01.deviantart.net image 480x384]

Ah, yes. Quarians. The most retarded species that ever managed FTL travel.

Much like panda bears they deserve to go extinct.


I've only ever played ME1 so far, so i'm unsure as to why you would say that.
 
2013-07-01 06:35:04 AM

Smoking GNU: DerAppie: mooseyfate: [fc01.deviantart.net image 480x384]

Ah, yes. Quarians. The most retarded species that ever managed FTL travel.

Much like panda bears they deserve to go extinct.

I've only ever played ME1 so far, so i'm unsure as to why you would say that.


I only played 1 and 2. But as far as I understand it, they wear the suits because they have a compromised immune system because they live on sterile ships. Yet when Ta'li was born her mother and a friend acclimated their suits so that they could be in the same room during the birth. That made me wonder that if Quarians aren't sterile and they have to use the suit because they have been living in sterile environments for a few centuries, and they all go on a pilgrimage to non-sterile environments, why did they ever start with the suits? All they needed to do was not have the air be sterile in the first place. And why not acclimate all Quarians to each other? Obviously it can be done and it would be a good boost for their immune system.
 
2013-07-01 06:40:12 AM

DerAppie: Smoking GNU: DerAppie: mooseyfate: [fc01.deviantart.net image 480x384]

Ah, yes. Quarians. The most retarded species that ever managed FTL travel.

Much like panda bears they deserve to go extinct.

I've only ever played ME1 so far, so i'm unsure as to why you would say that.

I only played 1 and 2. But as far as I understand it, they wear the suits because they have a compromised immune system because they live on sterile ships. Yet when Ta'li was born her mother and a friend acclimated their suits so that they could be in the same room during the birth. That made me wonder that if Quarians aren't sterile and they have to use the suit because they have been living in sterile environments for a few centuries, and they all go on a pilgrimage to non-sterile environments, why did they ever start with the suits? All they needed to do was not have the air be sterile in the first place. And why not acclimate all Quarians to each other? Obviously it can be done and it would be a good boost for their immune system.


Huh. never thought of it that way.
 
2013-07-01 07:45:17 AM
www.boozenews.com
 
2013-07-01 08:19:33 AM

Smoking GNU: DerAppie: Smoking GNU: DerAppie: mooseyfate: [fc01.deviantart.net image 480x384]

Ah, yes. Quarians. The most retarded species that ever managed FTL travel.

Much like panda bears they deserve to go extinct.

I've only ever played ME1 so far, so i'm unsure as to why you would say that.

I only played 1 and 2. But as far as I understand it, they wear the suits because they have a compromised immune system because they live on sterile ships. Yet when Ta'li was born her mother and a friend acclimated their suits so that they could be in the same room during the birth. That made me wonder that if Quarians aren't sterile and they have to use the suit because they have been living in sterile environments for a few centuries, and they all go on a pilgrimage to non-sterile environments, why did they ever start with the suits? All they needed to do was not have the air be sterile in the first place. And why not acclimate all Quarians to each other? Obviously it can be done and it would be a good boost for their immune system.

Huh. never thought of it that way.


Me neither. I just wanted to have ackward sex with a hot alien that smelled like new car vinyl.
 
2013-07-01 09:49:09 PM
I had a Canadian astronomy calendar (edited by a Canadian astronomer and popularizer) with a different astronomy fact each day and a net set of connect the dots each month which observed that a space dust cloud in the vicinity of the little-known constellation, Scutum (the Shield--of a former King of Poland), contaned 11x the weight of the Earth in ethanol, which is drinking alcohol. Since then, other clouds have been found to contain a whole lot of molecular booze.

Quantum Mechanics has come to the rescue of astronomy by explaining how such molecules can form where it is too cold for the energy to combine smaller molecules to be found--at least on suffucient scale to produce the quantities observed.

This is a fortutious bit of evidence in favour of Sir Fred Hoyle's Panspermia theory (life originated in, and arrived on planets like ours, from space). At the same time, it weakens Creationism and Intelligent Design theory, by filling in a big gap where God might be hiding from his Creatures.

If you have the whole Earth and time enough, you can explain evolution in purely terrestrial terms, but given galaxies enough and even more time, the pasting together of molecules becomes trivial. It's a brute force solution to the problems of biogenesis.

Another recent news story: scientists have created artificial ribosomes, one of the key pieces of machinery in the cell. They read off and create molecules from RNA or DNA strips, like a computer reading paper tape or magnetic tape, or even punch cards such as were created to make the patterns in Jacquard looms and then proved useful for doing math and writing programs for universal machines.

Ribosomes can serve as enzymes and co-enzymes and even templates for the making of ribosomes, and like DNA and RNA are a key piece of the puzzle.

Quantum Mechanics is so poorly understood by the general public and even scientists that it is the basis of much modern oo-eee, oo-eee pseudo-science and mystical crankery ... but QM has been found to play a role in photosynthesis, and now it seems to solve many of the chemical and physical problems of making organic molecules on a scale that simply shuts down the human imagination.

Like the tight alliance between sub-atomic physics and cosmology, the alliance between molecular biology and quantum mechanics on an astronomical and minute scale at once, will prove interesting. Very interesting times ahead, indeed.

Scientists can now image subatomic structure in an atom. They can push atoms around and make tiny painting-sculptures one atom thick. They can now create key bits of the machinery of life and also tiny basic lifeforms from parts you can buy on the web.

In the immortal words of Robinson:  Where's your God now, bwah, bwah, bwah, bwah?

Sir Fred Hoyle, by the way, is belovèd of Creationists because he was skeptical about evolution (and the Big Bang Theory). He likened the abiogenetic origin of life to an explosion in a junk yard creating a jet plane.

Of course, his logic was faulty. He mistook the amount of information in a microbe for the probability of it being created--whether by evolution or design. The "Intelligent" Designers conveniently forget that Sir Fred was a scientist, not a theist and that "design" and "evolution" face the same problems. "Irreduceable complexity" is a problem for God as well as Man. If a thing is really that complex, it can't be MADE or DESIGNED. It has to poof.

Any sufficiently advanced technology not only looks like magic. It IS magic.

Which is to say it is a triumph of the will over logic, facts, law and probability.

An intelligent God would exploit evolution, not fight it.

In any case, an intelligent God would need all of eternity to work out not only the "design" for billions of creatures, but how to fit them all together into functioning and durable ecosystems.

And then how to fit the ecosystems together into one global system like Lovecraft's Gaia. But first he would have to choose among an infinity of possible worlds and find all of those which fine tune the conditions for some form of life (Occam's theology and logic come in handy here, but most people only know Occam third hand as much of his work doesn't seem to be available to non-medieval Latin-reading scholars).

God would have been bloody stupid and perverse to do it all from scratch, but being humans, we have to. We have to be able to find reductonist explanations before we can recognize holistic solutions.

God is out on his ear, even if you are a theist trying to understand how the world works, because POOF! is not an answer to anybody's questions about anything except for idiots who want to go back to sleep.

DON'T ASK SCIENTISTS FOR ANSWERS FOR FEAR THEY MAY HAVE SOME.

You won't like them.
You won't understand them.
You won't wait around for them.

Go make up some BS of your own, but just remember that you did make it up and that it is BS and that nobody cares or wants to hear about it except you.

Sir Fred Hoyle's fallacies in the name of Panspermia are the same basic fallacies that many scientists, let alone philosophers and theists make.

They all confuse the amount of information for a measure of probalility. I liken this to looking at the Library of Congress (or any similar library) and confusing the number of pages and books and maps and stuff with the probability that writing was or could be invented.

Here's a hint: writing started out with little drawings of sheep and things that needed to be counted and were more numerous than fingers and toes. These were replaced by tokens, made of clay and by indentations on clay or scratchings on rock and pottery. This evolved into writing several times in several cultures that became sophisticated enough to need accountants.

It was not a system of writing at all. It was a tally system used by accountants.

Fark you "Intelligent" Designers. You are dumber than Your God, whose name you dare not speak as you try to take over the schools with your theistic and political prejudices.

One. Little. Problem. At. A. Time. It works, biatches! And it is far more satisfactory than GOD SAID POOF! AND THERE WAS POOF! AND GOD SAW THE POOF! AND SAID "DON'T ASK QUESTIONS. JUST BELIEVE WHAT YOU ARE TOLD. NO FREE THOUGHT. NO FREE SPEECH. NO FREE BODIES. WE OWN YOU!

DO AS WE SAY, NOT AS WE DO.
BECAUSE WE SAY SO.
SHUT UP AND MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS.
THE AUTHORITIES ALWAYS KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING AND WHAT YOU SHOULD DO.
NOT YOURS! YES, YOU MADE IT, BUT IT BELONGS TO US. BECAUSE ... OR ELSE.

And so forth. Why am I shouting? Because they always do before they are done.
 
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