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(CBS News)   Stephen King talks about his abandoned 20-year-old novella featuring the one place on Earth so terrifying "not even Superman can go"   (cbsnews.com ) divider line
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2013-06-30 10:35:20 PM  
3 votes:
The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway.

The Wayne LaPierre pimp slap was an unexpected bonus.
2013-07-01 02:25:47 AM  
2 votes:
This guy is one of the best writers of our time, I don't care what anyone thinks. Love all his work, even the dogs...

/I'm looking at you Cell.
2013-07-01 01:38:04 AM  
2 votes:
I liked this bit, from the last page, where he's talking about the process of writing: A lot of times when I'm in that room when I'm composing, I'm not in that room. I'm not there. I disappear completely.

Funny, because that's exactly how I feel when I'm reading a good book (and his books do it to me more than most). I imagine that if someone walked into a room where I'm reading, they wouldn't see me because I've disappeared into the book. :)
2013-07-01 11:05:37 AM  
1 vote:

stoli n coke: Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


Period sprunts.


Sprunt - wasn't that what George Carlin wanted to call his brand of feminine deodorant spray?
2013-07-01 10:52:39 AM  
1 vote:
Where does this, "Stephen King can't write good endings," meme originate? I've read several of his works and didn't think they ended all that bad. Is this problem just with certain works?
2013-07-01 09:26:02 AM  
1 vote:

kroonermanblack: I'll admit I read trash fiction, but king is just bad. I could give him a pass if he didn't 'end' every novel with the same bullshiat cliffhanger style.


No worse than Dean Koontz, his shiat is so predictable I've been able to predict down to the page number when characters die
2013-07-01 09:24:34 AM  
1 vote:
Just started book two in The Dark Tower.  Interesting change of pace.
2013-07-01 08:22:10 AM  
1 vote:

Wolf892: stoli n coke: Wolf892: The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.

And I'm sure he soothes that fear with his giant piles of money and the knowledge that even the fans that biatch about his work the most will still buy the latest installment no matter what.

I haven't liked a lot of the endings of his books, but I'm aware that he doesn't give a shiat.

Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars.

I was a fan, then I hit adulthood and wanted something more from my stories...a decent beginning, middle and end. Not books that throw your fandom and devotion back in your face with a sneer that says "It was a giant space spider all along, biatches! What do you think of them apples!"
He's great at creating characters, he's great at telling a story, he just really sucks at ending that story in a way that feels true to the world he's created and leaves us the readers content.


Translation: I never enjoyed a Stephen King book as much as when I was twelve. Christ, does anybody?
2013-07-01 08:19:41 AM  
1 vote:

Jim_Callahan: That was always King's problem, he's way too... optimistic for a horror writer.  There has to be an actual answer to the mystery, or a solution to the problem, which is why most of his "horror" stories end up just being adventure stories with a little bit of darkness to them.

Ending the story with someone going in to check and then not coming out with no explanation, or scream, or anything, would be about a billion times scarier than anything King has written in his life.  That'd be some actual Noir stuff.


Uh, you've never read any of his short stories, have you.
2013-07-01 07:22:58 AM  
1 vote:

Thunderboy: Peki: /come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

My years working in the nightclubs of NYC tell me it's "clogging the toilets with tampons and shiatting in the garbage cans".


I believe it.  I once had a summer job working as a janitor at a school.  Men's restrooms get dirty, but what women do to their restrooms is downright criminal.
2013-07-01 05:19:39 AM  
1 vote:

Wolf892: stoli n coke: Wolf892: The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.

And I'm sure he soothes that fear with his giant piles of money and the knowledge that even the fans that biatch about his work the most will still buy the latest installment no matter what.

I haven't liked a lot of the endings of his books, but I'm aware that he doesn't give a shiat.

Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars.

I was a fan, then I hit adulthood and wanted something more from my stories...a decent beginning, middle and end. Not books that throw your fandom and devotion back in your face with a sneer that says "It was a giant space spider all along, biatches! What do you think of them apples!"
He's great at creating characters, he's great at telling a story, he just really sucks at ending that story in a way that feels true to the world he's created and leaves us the readers content.



No argument there, but we have to remember, he's a pulp writer. A very good pulp writer, but a pulp writer nonetheless. He just happened to get in the game at the right time and secure himself a massive distribution deal, so he sells more than the other writers on his caliber.

Since adulthood, I've found it's just easier to wait for the eventual movie, since nearly everything he writes gets a movie deal anyway. The writers and directors involved in those tended to find and fix a lot of the storytelling flaws. Usually, the less control King has on the film, the better film it will be.

Although I will give him credit for Maximum Overdrive. That flick was just delightful trash.
2013-07-01 04:59:36 AM  
1 vote:
The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.
2013-07-01 04:16:36 AM  
1 vote:

Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


ask any person who has been an officer cleaner or a janitor and they'll answer "I don't know why they call it the Ladies room". that's the truth.
2013-07-01 03:37:05 AM  
1 vote:
That was always King's problem, he's way too... optimistic for a horror writer.  There has to be an actual answer to the mystery, or a solution to the problem, which is why most of his "horror" stories end up just being adventure stories with a little bit of darkness to them.

Ending the story with someone going in to check and then not coming out with no explanation, or scream, or anything, would be about a billion times scarier than anything King has written in his life.  That'd be some actual Noir stuff.
 
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