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2013-06-30 10:04:39 PM
The women's restroom at a college football game?
 
2013-06-30 10:35:20 PM
The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway.

The Wayne LaPierre pimp slap was an unexpected bonus.
 
2013-06-30 11:38:45 PM
His mom?
 
2013-07-01 12:00:52 AM
More interesting is the part about "Rage," a story about a kid who goes postal at school, that was found among the items of a real school shooter, and that King has now pulled from publication.

Also cool that he's making a sequel to The Shining.
 
2013-07-01 12:58:20 AM

quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway


This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?
 
2013-07-01 01:29:17 AM
I couldn't figure out what was going on in there

Spoken like a true man.
 
2013-07-01 01:35:40 AM

Peki: /come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


That the woman are all sharing stories of our inadequate love making, sexual stamina and size before indulging in an epic pillow fight in which boobies pop out left and right and no male eyes get to enjoy?

Admittedly, that might be just me there.

*awkward silence*

Yeah, prolly just me.
 
2013-07-01 01:38:04 AM
I liked this bit, from the last page, where he's talking about the process of writing: A lot of times when I'm in that room when I'm composing, I'm not in that room. I'm not there. I disappear completely.

Funny, because that's exactly how I feel when I'm reading a good book (and his books do it to me more than most). I imagine that if someone walked into a room where I'm reading, they wouldn't see me because I've disappeared into the book. :)
 
2013-07-01 01:40:03 AM

quatchi: Peki: /come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

That the woman are all sharing stories of our inadequate love making, sexual stamina and size before indulging in an epic pillow fight in which boobies pop out left and right and no male eyes get to enjoy?

Admittedly, that might be just me there.

*awkward silence*

Yeah, prolly just me.


Thank you.

/off to write my version of the book. Will mail it to King, since it's his idea.
 
2013-07-01 02:01:30 AM

Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


I really want to know.

Then we can do it, because frankly, nothing much goes on in there besides repairing makeup and fluffing hair. I wanna start having some FUN.
 
2013-07-01 02:01:53 AM
I wish he wouldn't spread that BS about the Dark Knight shooter dressed as the Joker.  He wasn't.  At all.
 
2013-07-01 02:04:11 AM

Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


My worst fear would be walking into the ladies room and walking in on the woman who has been the object of all of my sexual fantasies loudly grunting as she is pinching off a huge stinking terd. And the worst part of it is after she finishes taking a crap she walks out without wiping or washing her hands.
 
2013-07-01 02:14:31 AM

Gyrfalcon: nothing much goes on in there besides repairing makeup and fluffing hair.


*sticks fingers in ears*

LALALALALALALA!!

/Sexy pillow fight with girls in their naughtiest underwear is still real to me, dammit!
 
2013-07-01 02:17:23 AM

ongbok: pinching off a huge stinking terd.


*sticks fingers in ears again*

LALALALALAL!

/Denial, more than just a coping mechanism, it's a way of life!
 
2013-07-01 02:19:51 AM
Based on the title, I'm worried this story will involve the shiatweasels from Dreamcatcher.
/love King, farking hated Dreamcatcher.
 
2013-07-01 02:20:40 AM

ongbok: Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

My worst fear would be walking into the ladies room and walking in on the woman who has been the object of all of my sexual fantasies loudly grunting as she is pinching off a huge stinking terd. And the worst part of it is after she finishes taking a crap she walks out without wiping or washing her hands.



The best part is it was terrible diarrhea, and she splattered it all over the toilet, and she didn't even flush.
 
2013-07-01 02:25:47 AM
This guy is one of the best writers of our time, I don't care what anyone thinks. Love all his work, even the dogs...

/I'm looking at you Cell.
 
2013-07-01 02:33:40 AM
The first page of a linked article?


/or was subby not aiming for 'meta'?
 
2013-07-01 02:37:01 AM
 
2013-07-01 02:50:48 AM
Anybody watch "Under the Dome" last week? Thoughts?
 
2013-07-01 03:13:42 AM

Podmore: Also cool that he's making a sequel to The Shining.


He's been talking about writing one for twenty years, at least.  It's apparently finally happened, due out this fall, I believe.
 
2013-07-01 03:37:05 AM
That was always King's problem, he's way too... optimistic for a horror writer.  There has to be an actual answer to the mystery, or a solution to the problem, which is why most of his "horror" stories end up just being adventure stories with a little bit of darkness to them.

Ending the story with someone going in to check and then not coming out with no explanation, or scream, or anything, would be about a billion times scarier than anything King has written in his life.  That'd be some actual Noir stuff.
 
2013-07-01 03:37:06 AM

ongbok: Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

My worst fear would be walking into the ladies room and walking in on the woman who has been the object of all of my sexual fantasies loudly grunting as she is pinching off a huge stinking terd. And the worst part of it is after she finishes taking a crap she walks out without wiping or washing her hands.


If she didn't wipe then she wouldn't need to wash her hands.
 
2013-07-01 03:56:10 AM

Jim_Callahan: That was always King's problem, he's way too... optimistic for a horror writer.  There has to be an actual answer to the mystery, or a solution to the problem, which is why most of his "horror" stories end up just being adventure stories with a little bit of darkness to them.

Ending the story with someone going in to check and then not coming out with no explanation, or scream, or anything, would be about a billion times scarier than anything King has written in his life.  That'd be some actual Noir stuff.


It'd be like From a Buick 8 .. but.. kind of the opposite.
 
2013-07-01 04:13:26 AM

Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?



Period sprunts.
 
2013-07-01 04:16:36 AM

Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


ask any person who has been an officer cleaner or a janitor and they'll answer "I don't know why they call it the Ladies room". that's the truth.
 
2013-07-01 04:18:10 AM
The bathroom at the 7-Eleven?
 
2013-07-01 04:59:36 AM
The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.
 
2013-07-01 05:09:11 AM

BadReligion: ongbok: Peki: quatchi: The "Ladies Room" novella concept was sorta interesting but I found King's reasoning for keeping "Rage" out of print the real takeaway

This.

Also, I know how to finish the book: You tell the truth.

/come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

My worst fear would be walking into the ladies room and walking in on the woman who has been the object of all of my sexual fantasies loudly grunting as she is pinching off a huge stinking terd. And the worst part of it is after she finishes taking a crap she walks out without wiping or washing her hands.


The best part is it was terrible diarrhea, and she splattered it all over the toilet, and she didn't even flush.


No wait, I can do one better. She pulls a bloody tampon out, throws it on the floor, farts, wipes the blood off her hands with toilet paper,THEN lets loose with the poop.

And doesn't wash her hands on the way out.
 
2013-07-01 05:09:33 AM

Wolf892: The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.


And I'm sure he soothes that fear with his giant piles of money and the knowledge that even the fans that biatch about his work the most will still buy the latest installment no matter what.

I haven't liked a lot of the endings of his books, but I'm aware that he doesn't give a shiat.

Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars.
 
2013-07-01 05:13:08 AM

stoli n coke: Wolf892: The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.

And I'm sure he soothes that fear with his giant piles of money and the knowledge that even the fans that biatch about his work the most will still buy the latest installment no matter what.

I haven't liked a lot of the endings of his books, but I'm aware that he doesn't give a shiat.

Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars.


I was a fan, then I hit adulthood and wanted something more from my stories...a decent beginning, middle and end. Not books that throw your fandom and devotion back in your face with a sneer that says "It was a giant space spider all along, biatches! What do you think of them apples!"
He's great at creating characters, he's great at telling a story, he just really sucks at ending that story in a way that feels true to the world he's created and leaves us the readers content.
 
2013-07-01 05:19:39 AM

Wolf892: stoli n coke: Wolf892: The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.

And I'm sure he soothes that fear with his giant piles of money and the knowledge that even the fans that biatch about his work the most will still buy the latest installment no matter what.

I haven't liked a lot of the endings of his books, but I'm aware that he doesn't give a shiat.

Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars.

I was a fan, then I hit adulthood and wanted something more from my stories...a decent beginning, middle and end. Not books that throw your fandom and devotion back in your face with a sneer that says "It was a giant space spider all along, biatches! What do you think of them apples!"
He's great at creating characters, he's great at telling a story, he just really sucks at ending that story in a way that feels true to the world he's created and leaves us the readers content.



No argument there, but we have to remember, he's a pulp writer. A very good pulp writer, but a pulp writer nonetheless. He just happened to get in the game at the right time and secure himself a massive distribution deal, so he sells more than the other writers on his caliber.

Since adulthood, I've found it's just easier to wait for the eventual movie, since nearly everything he writes gets a movie deal anyway. The writers and directors involved in those tended to find and fix a lot of the storytelling flaws. Usually, the less control King has on the film, the better film it will be.

Although I will give him credit for Maximum Overdrive. That flick was just delightful trash.
 
2013-07-01 05:36:26 AM
Someday I need to go back and re-read the Stand.  It's probably been 15 years since the last time I read it.

Fun fact: when Stephen King started writing Pet Semetary he set out with the goal of creating a story so scary that people wouldn't be able to finish it.  When he was done writing it he held on to the manuscript for an entire year before submitting it to his publisher because he was so disturbed by what he'd written.

That's right; Stephen King managed to scare  himself shiatless.

/loved Stephen King's cameo in Sons of Anarchy.
//"What body?"
 
2013-07-01 05:41:49 AM

darkjezter: Someday I need to go back and re-read the Stand.  It's probably been 15 years since the last time I read it.

Fun fact: when Stephen King started writing Pet Semetary he set out with the goal of creating a story so scary that people wouldn't be able to finish it.  When he was done writing it he held on to the manuscript for an entire year before submitting it to his publisher because he was so disturbed by what he'd written.

That's right; Stephen King managed to scare  himself shiatless.

/loved Stephen King's cameo in Sons of Anarchy.
//"What body?"


I loved, loved, loved The Stand, right up to the final chapter/conclusion. I was so pissed off...
 
2013-07-01 06:05:24 AM
The Politics tab?
 
2013-07-01 06:34:25 AM

fusillade762: Meh. I think Damon Knight kinda covered this already (though from a reverse angle).

Not with a Bang (short story)

The story is an ironic, Adam-and-Eve tale. Humanity has been wiped out by a nuclear war, except for one man and woman, who meet in a restaurant in Salt Lake City. The man suffers from a disease that causes recurrent episodes of total paralysis. While in the bathroom, he has an attack, and dies with the realization that the woman is too prudish to enter and save him.


downwithfilm.com
 
2013-07-01 06:46:28 AM

Peki: /come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?


My years working in the nightclubs of NYC tell me it's "clogging the toilets with tampons and shiatting in the garbage cans".
 
2013-07-01 07:22:58 AM

Thunderboy: Peki: /come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

My years working in the nightclubs of NYC tell me it's "clogging the toilets with tampons and shiatting in the garbage cans".


I believe it.  I once had a summer job working as a janitor at a school.  Men's restrooms get dirty, but what women do to their restrooms is downright criminal.
 
2013-07-01 07:53:11 AM

darkjezter: Thunderboy: Peki: /come on guys. What are your worst fears about what goes on in The Ladies' Room?

My years working in the nightclubs of NYC tell me it's "clogging the toilets with tampons and shiatting in the garbage cans".

I believe it.  I once had a summer job working as a janitor at a school.  Men's restrooms get dirty, but what women do to their restrooms is downright criminal.


It's because they don't sit, they hover. With terrible aim.
 
2013-07-01 08:09:04 AM

Critch: I wish he wouldn't spread that BS about the Dark Knight shooter dressed as the Joker.  He wasn't.  At all.


That was where I quit reading the article, it's scare mongering bullshiat like that, that gets the sheep all riled up over nothing.
 
2013-07-01 08:10:45 AM
I was trying to find a screencap from that Farscape episode, but GIS has failed me...
 
2013-07-01 08:12:01 AM

stoli n coke: Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars


I am pretty sure my parents have a copy...
 
2013-07-01 08:19:41 AM

Jim_Callahan: That was always King's problem, he's way too... optimistic for a horror writer.  There has to be an actual answer to the mystery, or a solution to the problem, which is why most of his "horror" stories end up just being adventure stories with a little bit of darkness to them.

Ending the story with someone going in to check and then not coming out with no explanation, or scream, or anything, would be about a billion times scarier than anything King has written in his life.  That'd be some actual Noir stuff.


Uh, you've never read any of his short stories, have you.
 
2013-07-01 08:22:10 AM

Wolf892: stoli n coke: Wolf892: The only thing that terrifies King these days is the prospect of sitting down in front of his computer and writing a satisfying conclusion to one of his novels that doesn't leave the reader feeling they've wasted their time.

And I'm sure he soothes that fear with his giant piles of money and the knowledge that even the fans that biatch about his work the most will still buy the latest installment no matter what.

I haven't liked a lot of the endings of his books, but I'm aware that he doesn't give a shiat.

Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars.

I was a fan, then I hit adulthood and wanted something more from my stories...a decent beginning, middle and end. Not books that throw your fandom and devotion back in your face with a sneer that says "It was a giant space spider all along, biatches! What do you think of them apples!"
He's great at creating characters, he's great at telling a story, he just really sucks at ending that story in a way that feels true to the world he's created and leaves us the readers content.


Translation: I never enjoyed a Stephen King book as much as when I was twelve. Christ, does anybody?
 
2013-07-01 08:22:20 AM

stoli n coke: Although I will give him credit for Maximum Overdrive. That flick was just delightful trash.


Fun Fact - King actually feels that was right next to The Shining in far as interpretation to film for any of his books and the best part is he was the director on that one. He only directorial effort and he felt so bad afterward that he swore off doing it again. He also in an interview admitted that he was pretty much coked out of his mind during the entire filming.

Ohh and the director of photography lost an eye during filming when a remote controlled lawn mower ran over a wooden block and shot splinters everywhere.
 
2013-07-01 08:23:30 AM

ekdikeo4: Jim_Callahan: That was always King's problem, he's way too... optimistic for a horror writer.  There has to be an actual answer to the mystery, or a solution to the problem, which is why most of his "horror" stories end up just being adventure stories with a little bit of darkness to them.

Ending the story with someone going in to check and then not coming out with no explanation, or scream, or anything, would be about a billion times scarier than anything King has written in his life.  That'd be some actual Noir stuff.

It'd be like From a Buick 8 .. but.. kind of the opposite.


From a Buick 8 was the shaggiest shaggy dog story ever committed to paper.
 
2013-07-01 08:43:43 AM
If done right, I would enjoy an "eye of the dragon" film. /1408 was a nice scary little story
 
2013-07-01 08:45:55 AM

Podmore: Also cool that he's making a sequel to The Shining.


Awesome! I loved that movie.

Gordon Bennett: If she didn't wipe then she wouldn't need to wash her hands.


4.bp.blogspot.com

If you touch anything in a public bathroom, you need to wash your hands.
 
2013-07-01 09:04:43 AM

liam76: stoli n coke: Oh, and not very good reporting in TFA. He publicly announced he was pulling Rage from the shelves 13 years ago. That's why an original paperback can sell for hundreds of dollars

I am pretty sure my parents have a copy...


I have a collection of the four Bachman books that used to be sold at Border's something like fifteen, twenty years ago.  Running Man, The Long Walk, Roadwork, and Rage.  Won't ever get rid of it.  I understand him wanting Rage out of print, but it's a pretty good, pretty upsetting yarn. It's like if you smashed Lord of the Flies into one schoolroom.
 
2013-07-01 09:12:48 AM
I thought rage would have been a great movie. An antidote for all those John Hughes teen movies.


Who would you cast as Charlie?
I call dibs on a young Judd Nelson.
 
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