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(Some Guy)   A producer's guide to the evolution and production of John Carpenter's The Thing from long and dull into a horror movie that still scares the pants off you today   (theoriginalfan.blogspot.co.uk) divider line 84
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2013-06-30 08:05:14 PM
Yeah, that's a great movie, and scary as hell.

Horror movies in the past few years are in a bad place.  It seems like they're either watered down PG-13 things, or sick-ass torture porn that isn't really scary so much as it's just depraved.  We need more movies out there like this one.
 
2013-06-30 08:10:44 PM

jake_lex: Yeah, that's a great movie, and scary as hell.

Horror movies in the past few years are in a bad place.  It seems like they're either watered down PG-13 things, or sick-ass torture porn that isn't really scary so much as it's just depraved.  We need more movies out there like this one.


You should be glad they cut out the sex scenes.
 
2013-06-30 08:19:05 PM
This a great film and still stands the test of time....
 
2013-06-30 08:22:40 PM
Probably my all time favorite horror film. I bust it out every Halloween for a little movie marathon.

/you gotta be f*ckin' kidding me...
 
2013-06-30 08:23:24 PM
I think I might be the only person left who hasn't seen it.
 
2013-06-30 08:27:22 PM

jake_lex: Yeah, that's a great movie, and scary as hell.

Horror movies in the past few years are in a bad place.  It seems like they're either watered down PG-13 things, or sick-ass torture porn that isn't really scary so much as it's just depraved.  We need more movies out there like this one.


^This. A friend of mine gets annoyed at me because I laugh during most "horror" movies (assuming it's not torture porn, in which case we just wind up turning it off anyway). Inevitably, they are either watered down silliness or just ridiculous nonsense driven by character stupidity rather than intelligent plotlines. In either case I am genuinely laughing at the movie.
 
2013-06-30 08:29:16 PM
An intellectual carrot? The mind boggles.
 
2013-06-30 08:29:27 PM

jake_lex: Yeah, that's a great movie, and scary as hell.

Horror movies in the past few years are in a bad place.  It seems like they're either watered down PG-13 things, or sick-ass torture porn that isn't really scary so much as it's just depraved.  We need more movies out there like this one.


Hear, hear. The thing that made "The Thing" so cool and scary for me was that we had a SF/horror movie that didn't require a lot of sash weights on the window of disbelief to keep it open.
 
2013-06-30 08:29:32 PM
The original was better.
 
2013-06-30 08:30:06 PM

whosits_112: Probably my all time favorite horror film. I bust it out every Halloween for a little movie marathon.

/you gotta be f*ckin' kidding me...


The Quaker Oats guy with an ax, bellowing "....IT WANTS TO BE UUUUUSSSSS!!!!"
 
2013-06-30 08:31:35 PM
It wasn't a particularly  scary film, but it was a lot of fun. Even when being creepy, Carpenter has a brand of humor that always shines through. He also loves putting Keith David in shiat. Keith David is awesome.
 
2013-06-30 08:34:03 PM
It astonishes me that that film got bad critical reception on release. One of the few horror films that holds up to repeat viewings. The script, the direction, the special effects, everything is just so damn solid.

Modern CG ain't gonna look nearly as good 30 years on as this film looks now, for sure.
 
2013-06-30 08:34:59 PM
The original is boss. I still laugh like hell when watching the scene in the the original movie when someone asks how to get the alien out of the ice, and faintly in the background, you hear Scotty the newsman say:

"Maybe we could use more Thermite...."
 
2013-06-30 08:36:55 PM

t3knomanser: It wasn't a particularly  scary film, but it was a lot of fun. Even when being creepy, Carpenter has a brand of humor that always shines through. He also loves putting Keith David in shiat. Keith David is awesome.


Agreed on the scary part. I think "Alien" is a far scarier movie, but I'm not sure it's a better film.
 
2013-06-30 08:38:47 PM

ArcadianRefugee: jake_lex: Yeah, that's a great movie, and scary as hell.

Horror movies in the past few years are in a bad place.  It seems like they're either watered down PG-13 things, or sick-ass torture porn that isn't really scary so much as it's just depraved.  We need more movies out there like this one.

^This. A friend of mine gets annoyed at me because I laugh during most "horror" movies (assuming it's not torture porn, in which case we just wind up turning it off anyway). Inevitably, they are either watered down silliness or just ridiculous nonsense driven by character stupidity rather than intelligent plotlines. In either case I am genuinely laughing at the movie.


Oh c'mon. There are good horror movies out there, you just have to look for them Not everything is torture porn. I just watched "Stoker" and that's a pretty interesting horror film, not all out gore. And a lot of good horror films are now made outside America. Yea, a lot of horror movies do suck because they need to have a PG-13 to make the most money,bot that's not all movies. Have you seen "Cabin in the Woods" yet? That's a great horror film.
 
2013-06-30 08:39:41 PM
If made today, The Thing would be 100% CGI.

Just as Gremlins would.

And that's sad.
 
2013-06-30 08:40:45 PM
I also recommend Outpost 31. It's a huge resource of 1982 Thing goodness.

I love this movie. It scared the crap out of me.
 
2013-06-30 08:40:57 PM
The dog splitting open scene is still hair raising.
 
2013-06-30 08:41:10 PM

FormlessOne: whosits_112: Probably my all time favorite horror film. I bust it out every Halloween for a little movie marathon.

/you gotta be f*ckin' kidding me...

The Quaker Oats guy with an ax, bellowing "....IT WANTS TO BE UUUUUSSSSS!!!!"


He was talking about Diabeetus...
 
2013-06-30 08:41:15 PM
True quality is hard to forget.
 
2013-06-30 08:42:25 PM

weltallica: If made today, The Thing would be 100% CGI.

Just as Gremlins would.

And that's sad.


"And next in our tour of Movie Magic, here we have the rack of Hard Drives used to create The Predator in last year's not-exactly blockbuster remake: The Predator."

"oooooooooh...."

"aaaaaaaaaah..."
 
2013-06-30 08:45:24 PM

skinink: Oh c'mon. There are good horror movies out there, you just have to look for them Not everything is torture porn. I just watched "Stoker" and that's a pretty interesting horror film, not all out gore. And a lot of good horror films are now made outside America. Yea, a lot of horror movies do suck because they need to have a PG-13 to make the most money,bot that's not all movies. Have you seen "Cabin in the Woods" yet? That's a great horror film.


See, I considered that "horror" in the same way Arachnophobia was "horror"...just better. I loved "Cabin"; thought it was funny as hell and saw it twice. Scary? No.

If you've a list of horror movies you think are genuinely scary, lemme know. I'd be down with giving them a try.
 
2013-06-30 08:51:43 PM
Not a horror movie buff, but this is a favorite along with The Exorcist (still freaks me out), Alien, and, for some reason, An American Werewolf in London. I can't wait to introduce my kids to this stuff!
 
2013-06-30 08:52:00 PM
Smart move? having no women. thus, no woman to last until end with lead man, reliably informing you of the only important part of a horror film, who will survive and what will be left of them.
 
2013-06-30 08:57:52 PM
That's great but if you don't mind I rather not spend the rest of winter TIED TO THIS farkING COUCH!
 
2013-06-30 08:58:56 PM

leevis: I think I might be the only person left who hasn't seen it.


Nope, you're not the only one. I'm 42 years old and I still haven't seen it. Sounds like I should though.

/puts "The Thing" on list of MUST SEE movies
 
2013-06-30 09:01:00 PM

Nick Nostril: Not a horror movie buff, but this is a favorite along with The Exorcist (still freaks me out), Alien, and, for some reason, An American Werewolf in London. I can't wait to introduce my kids to this stuff!


Aliens was on today. It is another one of my favorites.
 
2013-06-30 09:01:34 PM

t3knomanser: It wasn't a particularly  scary film, but it was a lot of fun. Even when being creepy, Carpenter has a brand of humor that always shines through. He also loves putting Keith David in shiat. Keith David is awesome.

Damn right!
I'd love to see him in a movie with David Keith.

/a global force, for good
 
2013-06-30 09:06:58 PM

Mood_For_Trouble: leevis: I think I might be the only person left who hasn't seen it.

Nope, you're not the only one. I'm 42 years old and I still haven't seen it. Sounds like I should though.

/puts "The Thing" on list of MUST SEE movies


I guess we now know who is human and who isn't.
 
2013-06-30 09:08:13 PM
Unlike most monsters in movies, the way alien being in The Thing moved was incredibly creepy. It was very believable that a bizarre alien creature would move with such unnatural insanely fast spasms.
 
2013-06-30 09:13:58 PM

skinink: ArcadianRefugee: jake_lex: Yeah, that's a great movie, and scary as hell.

Horror movies in the past few years are in a bad place.  It seems like they're either watered down PG-13 things, or sick-ass torture porn that isn't really scary so much as it's just depraved.  We need more movies out there like this one.

^This. A friend of mine gets annoyed at me because I laugh during most "horror" movies (assuming it's not torture porn, in which case we just wind up turning it off anyway). Inevitably, they are either watered down silliness or just ridiculous nonsense driven by character stupidity rather than intelligent plotlines. In either case I am genuinely laughing at the movie.

Oh c'mon. There are good horror movies out there, you just have to look for them Not everything is torture porn. I just watched "Stoker" and that's a pretty interesting horror film, not all out gore. And a lot of good horror films are now made outside America. Yea, a lot of horror movies do suck because they need to have a PG-13 to make the most money,bot that's not all movies. Have you seen "Cabin in the Woods" yet? That's a great horror film.


Are you serious about Cabin in the woods? I don't even consider it horror, more like comedy-suspense-fantasy or something. I did enjoy it, though, once I gave up on it being, like, scary or suspenseful or anything.
 
2013-06-30 09:16:04 PM

Fano: Smart move? having no women. thus, no woman to last until end with lead man, reliably informing you of the only important part of a horror film, who will survive and what will be left of them.


That's what made it so great.
 
2013-06-30 09:18:49 PM

WhippingBoy: Fano: Smart move? having no women. thus, no woman to last until end with lead man, reliably informing you of the only important part of a horror film, who will survive and what will be left of them.

That's what made it so great.


We need one with all women on a space station and a runaway vat meat monster that eats you from the inside out and possesses your body.
 
2013-06-30 09:19:01 PM
damned swedes
 
2013-06-30 09:19:54 PM
Wow, this is a really great blog. I hope the other articles are as good.
 
2013-06-30 09:22:44 PM
I like how the Thing in this movie is sneaky and prefers to assimilate people quietly, unless it has no choice. The paranoia this created added a whole new layer of tension to the movie, a point that was utterly lost on the people who created that wretched 2011 prequel. I'm surprised the 1951 movie didn't take advantage of this as well, especially considering the time in which it was made (McCarthyism, people not being who they seem to be, etc).
 
2013-06-30 09:30:54 PM

Gunther: It astonishes me that that film got bad critical reception on release. One of the few horror films that holds up to repeat viewings. The script, the direction, the special effects, everything is just so damn solid.

Modern CG ain't gonna look nearly as good 30 years on as this film looks now, for sure.


It was 1982.  The economy was in the crapper, Reagan was saber rattling with the reds, no one wanted to watch that kind of thing.  Cutesy ET that came out two weeks earlier was more to their taste then.
 
2013-06-30 09:33:27 PM

stuffy: The original was better.


THIS.

You nailed it.
 
2013-06-30 09:36:15 PM
Saw this in a drive-in movie theater when I was 11.  It was the second of a double feature - the first being "Cat People".   I passed out from exhaustion and fright after Palmer's head split open.

Still my fave horror film!
 
2013-06-30 09:38:04 PM

Plant Rights Activist: damned swedes


They're Norwegian, Mac.
 
2013-06-30 09:41:46 PM

Pointy Tail of Satan: The original is boss. I still laugh like hell when watching the scene in the the original movie when someone asks how to get the alien out of the ice, and faintly in the background, you hear Scotty the newsman say:

"Maybe we could use more Thermite...."


If I had a ready supple, that would be my answer to everything.
"Drain is clogged."
"Locked my keys in the car."
"Can't get the lid off the pickle jar"
 
2013-06-30 09:51:29 PM
I think Nauls just disappearing was far more creepy than having an onscreen death...
 
2013-06-30 09:52:18 PM

Fano: Smart move? having no women. thus, no woman to last until end with lead man, reliably informing you of the only important part of a horror film, who will survive and what will be left of them.


I agree with this. No romantic bullshiat bogs things down. It's just all about the cold, hard desperation and paranoia.

"I know you gentlemen have been through a lot, but when you find the time, I'd rather not spend the rest of this winter TIED TO THIS farkING COUCH!"
 
2013-06-30 10:01:08 PM
Read the short story by Robert W. Campbell.

Trust me
 
2013-06-30 10:01:51 PM
The test scene (heated wires) is perhaps the best scene in a movie with many stand-outs.  Just hilarious, creepy goodness.
 
2013-06-30 10:03:37 PM
I love the first two iterations of this movie.  The two are in my opinion almost as good as Alien and Aliens.  Yeah yeah, I know that The Thing is not a sequel to The Thing, but they two great movies in their own right.
 
2013-06-30 10:18:41 PM

CaptainBeer: Read the short story by Robert W. Campbell.

Trust me


John W. Campbell, unless you're trolling. The story is "Who Goes There?" Carpenter follows the story much more closely than the original.
 
2013-06-30 10:20:15 PM
Or...ADHD
 
2013-06-30 10:26:12 PM
The movie that scared me silly was The Blob.  I was a little kid when I saw it.  I lay in bed that night, fighting to keep my eyes open so I could see it squishing through the window screen and I could warn everyone.  Sleeping in the freezer was not an option.
 
2013-06-30 10:29:22 PM
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Pretty good made-for-TV ripoff back in the day
 
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