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(Daily Mail)   That time Christopher Reeve was subtly CGI'd into Man of Steel   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 69
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2013-06-30 01:52:31 PM  
Meanwhile it has been reported that Mark Strong is reportedly being considered to play Lex Luthor in Man of Steel 2.

The Kick-Ass actor is said to be director Zack Snyder's favourite choice for the iconic role of Superman's arch nemesis in a follow-up to the comic book movie, according to CosmicBookNews.com.


I really hope that is true. He'd be perfect.
 
2013-06-30 02:46:42 PM  

NewportBarGuy: I really hope that is true. He'd be perfect.


Amen.  He's really an excellent villain.
 
2013-06-30 03:32:42 PM  
But can the new guy do this:

Which was a plot twist btw.
 
2013-06-30 03:47:45 PM  
Er... this,
ic.pics.livejournal.com
 
2013-06-30 04:59:13 PM  
i1182.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-30 11:33:34 PM  
I still regret that Reeve didn't live long enough to portray Hawking.
 
2013-06-30 11:37:33 PM  
Henry Cavill appears to have won critics over with his turn as the caped crusader.

Um....isn't that epithet used pretty much exclusively for Batman?
 
2013-06-30 11:37:36 PM  

Molavian: NewportBarGuy: I really hope that is true. He'd be perfect.

Amen.  He's really an excellent villain.


He and Lynn Collins were the only redeeming things about John Carter. He does a good villain, but he's becoming a bit too much of the easy go-to-guy for movie bad guy these days, so he is a bit too much of an obvious choice compared to Michael Shannon.
 
2013-06-30 11:40:40 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Henry Cavill appears to have won critics over with his turn as the caped crusader.

Um....isn't that epithet used pretty much exclusively for Batman?


yes well you're talking about an article from the UK.  They call chips crisps and put an extra letter in color.  also refer to friends as mates.  Just let it go.
 
2013-06-30 11:41:01 PM  
The movie still blows, right?
 
2013-06-30 11:42:00 PM  

Mad_Radhu: He and Lynn Collins were the only redeeming things about John Carter. He does a good villain, but he's becoming a bit too much of the easy go-to-guy for movie bad guy these days, so he is a bit too much of an obvious choice compared to Michael Shannon.


Yes, because go-to bad guys have never worked out in the past.

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2013-06-30 11:46:45 PM  

NewportBarGuy: Meanwhile it has been reported that Mark Strong is reportedly being considered to play Lex Luthor in Man of Steel 2.

The Kick-Ass actor is said to be director Zack Snyder's favourite choice for the iconic role of Superman's arch nemesis in a follow-up to the comic book movie, according to CosmicBookNews.com.


I really hope that is true. He'd be perfect.


I really hope it's true because it means WB/DChas given up on another Green Lantern film.

poxic: I still regret that Reeve didn't live long enough to portray Hawking.


Smallville, Season 3.
 
2013-06-30 11:50:49 PM  
Yes. So subtly, in fact, that it didn't happen.
 
2013-06-30 11:56:20 PM  
I'm not seeing it...
 
2013-07-01 12:04:48 AM  

Bonanza Jellybean: Yes. So subtly, in fact, that it didn't happen.


Trade Secret: I'm not seeing it...


Looks like two shots of the same guy, and it sure isn't Reeve.
 
2013-07-01 12:12:22 AM  
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If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....
 
2013-07-01 12:17:24 AM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....


If only there were some kind of large, prominent symbol on the costume that would indicate who the character is supposed to be...
 
2013-07-01 12:20:19 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Meanwhile it has been reported that Mark Strong is reportedly being considered to play Lex Luthor in Man of Steel 2.

The Kick-Ass actor is said to be director Zack Snyder's favourite choice for the iconic role of Superman's arch nemesis in a follow-up to the comic book movie, according to CosmicBookNews.com.


I really hope that is true. He'd be perfect.


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2013-07-01 12:28:17 AM  
I can't stand all this CGI bullcrap.
 
2013-07-01 12:45:02 AM  
I loved Man of Steel and am looking forward to the next one.

And Henry Cavill looked amazing in the suit (and not in the suit, too)... yum.
 
2013-07-01 01:02:29 AM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....


Not the costume department's fault the comics changed.
 
2013-07-01 01:03:53 AM  
Superman now has a receding hairline and no curl?
 
2013-07-01 01:09:12 AM  

Cambrian: I can't stand all this CGI bullcrap.


I'm sure there's an art house near you.
 
2013-07-01 01:10:39 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Er... this,
[ic.pics.livejournal.com image 468x286]


Guys kissing? That would be a deathtrap!
 
2013-07-01 01:26:28 AM  

Mentat: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....

If only there were some kind of large, prominent symbol on the costume that would indicate who the character is supposed to be...


Beat me to it.
Dude's full of it. It's got all the main elements of the original costume, it's just been darkened and aliened a bit.
 
2013-07-01 01:28:02 AM  

Cambrian: I can't stand all this CGI bullcrap.


Yeah, we desperately need more slow, awkward wire sequences.
 
2013-07-01 01:33:03 AM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....


I'm bored an want answers.

1) Why, besides some nostalgia goggles answer, do you think a guy in a spandex jumpsuit with red short shorts on does not look dated.
2) Why should a super hero costume have to be 100% to a comic, a medium made for drawing, not the movies.
3) How could that costume possibly be worse than a guy in a spandex jumpsuit with red short shorts on. Must be answered something longer than "I don't like it."; "It just does."; or a personal insult.
 
2013-07-01 01:36:38 AM  

foo monkey: The movie still blows, right?


Yup.
 
2013-07-01 01:45:53 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Er... this,
[ic.pics.livejournal.com image 468x286]


That's an excellent film.
 
2013-07-01 01:50:38 AM  
This is just another Jesus on a toast kind of thing... -_-'
 
2013-07-01 01:53:13 AM  

NewportBarGuy: Meanwhile it has been reported that Mark Strong is reportedly being considered to play Lex Luthor in Man of Steel 2.

The Kick-Ass actor is said to be director Zack Snyder's favourite choice for the iconic role of Superman's arch nemesis in a follow-up to the comic book movie, according to CosmicBookNews.com.


I really hope that is true. He'd be perfect.


Well, if Chris Evans can be Captain American and The Human Torch...

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2013-07-01 01:59:57 AM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....


I don't know what you do for a living, but I hope it's not in detective work.
 
2013-07-01 02:19:12 AM  

Cambrian: I can't stand all this CGI bullcrap.


Your alternate proposal for making an on-budget movie about a dude whose only two personality traits are the ability to fly and the ability to punch a truck and get a reaction would be....

sirbissel: Not the costume department's fault the comics changed.


If anyone's curious, the aesthetic change was motivated by a shift in what is considered the pinnacle of athletic performance by the general public and especially children.  In the 1930s it would have been carnival acrobats and strong-men, who wore tight outfits designed to show off muscles and make their limbs distinct from their torso during tricks (thus the briefs).

Not a lot of carnival attendees among the younger comics fans nowadays, but everyone's played video games with spec ops soldiers, so the current metaphor for absurd athleticism is light body armor.  Thus, everything has panels, sometimes scaled or plated, and you see a lot more in the way of sleeves and long pants that don't necessarily conform to the body beneath.

You have to use iconography that actually means something to connect with your audience, you can only coast on "well, people will know it from the other stuff" for so long, it's amazing even Superman got away with it as long as it did.
 
2013-07-01 02:27:42 AM  
Well, the character certainly had more charisma and personality when Reeves played him.
 
2013-07-01 02:36:05 AM  
Jim_Callahan: If anyone's curious, the aesthetic change was motivated by a shift in what is considered the pinnacle of athletic performance by the general public and especially children. In the 1930s it would have been carnival acrobats and strong-men, who wore tight outfits designed to show off muscles and make their limbs distinct from their torso during tricks (thus the briefs).

Not a lot of carnival attendees among the younger comics fans nowadays, but everyone's played video games with spec ops soldiers, so the current metaphor for absurd athleticism is light body armor. Thus, everything has panels, sometimes scaled or plated, and you see a lot more in the way of sleeves and long pants that don't necessarily conform to the body beneath.

You have to use iconography that actually means something to connect with your audience, you can only coast on "well, people will know it from the other stuff" for so long, it's amazing even Superman got away with it as long as it did.


Wow, I'd never thought of it that way. Makes a good deal of sense, Thanks!

/not that it bothered me when they changed his costume
 
2013-07-01 04:03:15 AM  
I heard they're going to pull a Brando and CGI Reeve into the sequel.
Sarah Jessica Parker has signed on as the villain that will finish him off.
 
2013-07-01 04:27:12 AM  

Jim_Callahan: Cambrian: I can't stand all this CGI bullcrap.

Your alternate proposal for making an on-budget movie about a dude whose only two personality traits are the ability to fly and the ability to punch a truck and get a reaction would be....

sirbissel: Not the costume department's fault the comics changed.

If anyone's curious, the aesthetic change was motivated by a shift in what is considered the pinnacle of athletic performance by the general public and especially children.  In the 1930s it would have been carnival acrobats and strong-men, who wore tight outfits designed to show off muscles and make their limbs distinct from their torso during tricks (thus the briefs).

Not a lot of carnival attendees among the younger comics fans nowadays, but everyone's played video games with spec ops soldiers, so the current metaphor for absurd athleticism is light body armor.  Thus, everything has panels, sometimes scaled or plated, and you see a lot more in the way of sleeves and long pants that don't necessarily conform to the body beneath.

You have to use iconography that actually means something to connect with your audience, you can only coast on "well, people will know it from the other stuff" for so long, it's amazing even Superman got away with it as long as it did.


While I agree with the premise, I would say his current outfit is much more spandex tracksuit/gymnastics onesie than anything military-related. But your point stands.
 
2013-07-01 04:37:03 AM  

INeedAName: While I agree with the premise, I would say his current outfit is much more spandex tracksuit/gymnastics onesie than anything military-related. But your point stands.


That works too. Almost all of the comics redesigns since 2000 have made the costumes look more utilitarian. They either go for a hi-tech military vibe or a high performance sports one.

It's all part of the paradigm change Jim_Callahanwas explaining. They need to look like something we recognize is a top performer and not like an outdated icon of yesteryear that's laughable by today's standards (not Superman, but the circus strongmen).
 
2013-07-01 04:39:00 AM  
the costume is okay, but it needs more at the waist to break up the blue.
 
2013-07-01 05:16:36 AM  

AppleOptionEsc: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....

I'm bored an want answers.

1) Why, besides some nostalgia goggles answer, do you think a guy in a spandex jumpsuit with red short shorts on does not look dated.
2) Why should a super hero costume have to be 100% to a comic, a medium made for drawing, not the movies.
3) How could that costume possibly be worse than a guy in a spandex jumpsuit with red short shorts on. Must be answered something longer than "I don't like it."; "It just does."; or a personal insult.


Trouble with just transposing a superhero costume to film is that on the big screen, something made entirely out of primary colors looks flat and cartoony. The technology today demands detail. Especially with digital, you need a lot more texture than any artist would ever put into a comic book panel. Superhero costumes back to Tobey Maguire's have looked like they belong on the big screen.

You also need to cue the visuals to each other; putting a comic book character in what ostensibly looks like the real world is going to be difficult without a real-world version of the costume. Tim Burton and Christopher Nolan both conceived Gotham Cities that looked as if Batman belonged in them, rather than put an athletic guy in black and gray tights in a daylit city that looks like Toronto or Vancouver.
 
2013-07-01 05:17:16 AM  

INeedAName: While I agree with the premise, I would say his current outfit is much more spandex tracksuit/gymnastics onesie than anything military-related. But your point stands.


In the movie, it showed that those costumes are basically underwears your wear under the armor. So, in truth, Superman is walking around in the kryptonian equivalent of this :

i.istockimg.com
 
2013-07-01 05:55:51 AM  

stoli n coke: I heard they're going to pull a Brando and CGI Reeve into the sequel.
Sarah Jessica Parker has signed on as the villain that will finish him off.


special guest appearance, S.J. Parker as The Nag.
 
2013-07-01 06:43:15 AM  

Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....

That "S" doesn't stand for France....
 
2013-07-01 07:13:26 AM  

MagSeven: Dumb-Ass-Monkey: [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423] [i.dailymail.co.uk image 306x423]

If I didn't know that the guy on the right was supposed to be Superman, I wouldn't have guessed. Just..... terrible costume....
That "S" doesn't stand for France....


Yeah! Look at that S-car go!
 
2013-07-01 07:16:40 AM  

rocky_howard: INeedAName: While I agree with the premise, I would say his current outfit is much more spandex tracksuit/gymnastics onesie than anything military-related. But your point stands.

That works too. Almost all of the comics redesigns since 2000 have made the costumes look more utilitarian. They either go for a hi-tech military vibe or a high performance sports one.

It's all part of the paradigm change Jim_Callahanwas explaining. They need to look like something we recognize is a top performer and not like an outdated icon of yesteryear that's laughable by today's standards (not Superman, but the circus strongmen).


The new one is knit almost like sharkskin or fabric chain mail.
 
2013-07-01 07:42:58 AM  
It's good that the film at least threw that in, sure Reeve was by some accounts a bit of a dick before his accident but as far as portraying the duality of the character... yeah he pretty much hit the nail on the head.   You couldn't tell from his performance that Clark was anything other than a fairly nice guy from the American mid-west.


Now I've not seen Man of Steel yet but hopefully the new actor can pull off both parts of the role just as well.
 
2013-07-01 08:27:23 AM  
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2013-07-01 08:30:10 AM  

padraig: INeedAName: While I agree with the premise, I would say his current outfit is much more spandex tracksuit/gymnastics onesie than anything military-related. But your point stands.

In the movie, it showed that those costumes are basically underwears your wear under the armor. So, in truth, Superman is walking around in the kryptonian equivalent of this :

[i.istockimg.com image 380x252]


Yeah, well if *I* looked that good, you bet your ass I would be running around in that outfit too.
 
2013-07-01 08:47:57 AM  
So, an actor from two of the biggest flops (Green Lantern & John Carter) of all time is under consideration?

While I think he is a great performer, and for some reason reminds me of Andy Garcia, it seems unlikely a studio head would have enough nuance to allow him to be cast.
 
2013-07-01 08:57:25 AM  
Got to love those old school uni's

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