Do you have adblock enabled?
If you can read this, either the style sheet didn't load or you have an older browser that doesn't support style sheets. Try clearing your browser cache and refreshing the page.

(The Motley Fool)   How Zack Snyder destroyed Superman   (fool.com) divider line 189
    More: Interesting, Man of Steel, Zack Snyder, Superman, winners, David S. Goyer, Iron Man, Monsters University, Box Office Mojo  
•       •       •

6020 clicks; posted to Entertainment » on 30 Jun 2013 at 8:07 PM (1 year ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



189 Comments   (+0 »)
   
View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest

Archived thread

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all
 
2013-06-30 09:08:13 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: ManateeGag: cameroncrazy1984: Christopher Nolan produced it, right? I blame him. His Batman movies were awful too.

10/10 - that will get tons of bites

The best part is, I'm not even trolling.


You know what's a good movie?  Transformers:  Dark Side of the Moon
 
2013-06-30 09:10:49 PM  
I just don't see the sequel to this doing well. Too many people have already said they won't watch any movie with this version of superman. That doesn't bode well for the justice league film.
 
2013-06-30 09:11:37 PM  

mr0x: At least it didn't involve Superman's amnesiac kiss.


That's one of my biggest annoyances with the old movies.  Just made powers up with no concern for canon.  I know Donner likely had nothing to do with the flying cellophane uniform S, but MAN that just pissed me off.
 
2013-06-30 09:11:45 PM  

Kyosuke: mongbiohazard: Kyosuke: mongbiohazard: The wife and I got back an hour ago from seeing it.  This Superman movie wasn't good... it was GREAT. It was absolutely fantastic and I can't recommend it enough. I farking choked up at one point... and the superhero battling was pure winsauce.

I've read a few interesting Superman stories here and there, but overall the character and comics generally bored the crap out of me. It was the silly god fantasy of some kid in the 30's. Outside of a few interesting takes on the character some talented people did over the years (Red Son, Kingdom Come, etc.) it always seemed stupid to me, and largely devoid of tension. In most stories Superman is basically an invincible god, and he's always going to win.

But this... Real drama, great performances and tweaks to the mythos that just made a whole lot of sense. I was truly impressed. I'm only pissed it took us so long to find the time to see it now. Great, great movie. Can't wait to watch it again.

So basically what you watched saw Superman in name only.

No, basically I watched a Superman that finally didn't play out like what my grandpa would pay $.05 to see back in the 1940's, or that my 6 year old nephew would write today.

I saw a Superman where someone actually gave enough of a crap to make a good movie out of the character, and not just make another lame movie because the filmmaker either had no understanding of what might actually make the character interesting or was afraid of pissing off people whose recollections are blurred with the unrealistic romanticism of selective childhood memory.

But Superman the character is already long established. Using just the character name and rough backstory in order to acquired funding to make the movie doesn't make it a Superman movie. It's just another screenplay written by someone without the creative ability to come up with their own characters.


It was Superman, it just wasn't written by a 6 year old. You'll get over it.
 
2013-06-30 09:13:39 PM  

Darth_Lukecash: EnviroDude: Superman broke the neck of Zod.  I can't say I have seen where this has happened before (deliberately killing a villain).

I have. Superman II. And in the comics.


Superman didn't kill Zod in Superman II. Although he was kind of a dick to the redneck when he regained his powers.
 
2013-06-30 09:15:22 PM  

mongbiohazard: it just wasn't written by a 6 year old.


You're right, it was written by someone who lacked the creativity to come up with their own characters and backstory to go with the fight scene they already had in their head.
 
2013-06-30 09:17:00 PM  

Popcorn Johnny: Did anybody else catch the split second cameo of Christopher Reeve in Man of Steel? I knew I saw it and it's been confirmed now.

Link


"Confirmed"? Were we reading the same article? [princessbride.jpg]
 
2013-06-30 09:18:13 PM  

mongbiohazard: It was Superman, it just wasn't written by a 6 year old. You'll get over it.


Most people will, by not seeing the sequel or justice league film. This is not going to go well for DC. First Green Lantern and now this. I am not hopeful for Aquaman.
 
2013-06-30 09:19:25 PM  
I don't get all the hate saying "this isn't Superman".  If you read comics with any regularly (even DC), you will see there are multiple interpretations of the character even within DC.   Sure, I would have preferred "All-Star Superman" version of Kal-el.  I would have also liked a JLU version.  But I didn't get that.  I also didn't get the version of Batman, Spiderman (either incarnation) or Thor I really wanted either.  Captain America was pretty good. Iron Man was spot on for my tastes (though I think IM3 wasn't as good as I would have liked)

That being said, I enjoyed the heck out of the Nolan Batman movies in spite of the shortcomings (i.e. I didn't like the interpretation of the Joker or Bane, but I thought the Ra's/Talia Al Gul story arc was fantastic)

Man of Steel for me was better than Thor and Spiderman movies, about as good as Captain America, but not as good as Batman, Iron Man or the Avengers.  It was a damn site better than Singer's "Lex is a real-estate magnate, yet again and Superman is all emo-y" attempt.

So in other words a middling-good attempt, with some flaws that opens up a few good story arcs to explore.
 
2013-06-30 09:19:54 PM  

The Banana Thug: "Confirmed"? Were we reading the same article? [princessbride.jpg]


I noticed it when I saw MoS on opening night, but thought I was nuts. Now that everyone else is noticing it as well, that's confirmation.
 
2013-06-30 09:21:44 PM  

FuturePastNow: Could be setting up a sequel where he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.


Seems like a natural way for the sequel to go with lots of great potential for a Superman story arch. The Boys did an outstanding job of showing that just because you have a super power and a pair of tights, doesn't mean you instinctively know how to save the day without causing major problems.

/ I'm sure other comics have covered this as well.
 
2013-06-30 09:22:50 PM  

Cheater71: I just don't see the sequel to this doing well. Too many people have already said they won't watch any movie with this version of superman. That doesn't bode well for the justice league film.


I think plenty of people have said they would.  You know, with it making tons of money.  I am just as geeky as any when it comes to this stuff, but we all know nerds like us tend to over-blow our reactions to things.  Right now, I think the movie is making plenty enough money that a sequel will happen.  And you tell the world that Batman is finally going face to face with Superman, every single person that said "worst Superman EVER" will line up around the corner to give them their money.

And don't even try to deny it.
 
2013-06-30 09:25:07 PM  
I liked it.  It really seemed to grasp the conflict that the protagonist struggled with.  Here was a guy who just wanted to be a normal guy, but was gifted with these great powers.  And while all he wanted to do was help people with them, he was ingrained with this need to keep himself secret from the world, thanks to his father.  Or one of them, I should say.

One father only wanted to keep him safe, hidden away from the world which might want to hurt him.  And that included giving up his own life rather than let his son be seen saving him from a tornado.

His other father wanted him to stand in the bright sun and be a shining example to humanity.  To be seen by everyone and be an encouragement to them, to coax the rest of the world up to where he was.

And yes, the scene where he kills Zod shocked me.  But I realized after the fact that having to kill the man might well form the basis for his adherence to avoiding killing people if at all possible.

What better way for him to establish that hard life-rule than sitting there, looking at what he's done and going "Okay, never doing that again."

As to whom he's killed within canon: Doomsday, Zod, Darkseid and the Anti-Monitor.  All big bad guys who want little more than to murder mass numbers of people.

Kinda like Zod in MoS.

Something to think about.
 
2013-06-30 09:26:01 PM  
If anyone has read the comics you would know Superman was always kind of a dick.  He's not the super sweet boy scout he's stereotyped as.
Yes, he is more than Batman.
But he's also hung a few criminals over buildings to get them to confess.

And in Man of Steel you have to assume this is the first time you've EVER heard of this character.  You can't apply your old preconceived notions of Superman to him.

He doesn't have his "rules" yet because this is his first outing.

He now knows what mistakes he's made and now he can say "Whoa, I ain't NEVER killing again!"

/the only mistake this movie made was not giving him a memorable theme song
 
2013-06-30 09:27:57 PM  

alwaysjaded: FuturePastNow: Could be setting up a sequel where he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Seems like a natural way for the sequel to go with lots of great potential for a Superman story arch. The Boys did an outstanding job of showing that just because you have a super power and a pair of tights, doesn't mean you instinctively know how to save the day without causing major problems.

/ I'm sure other comics have covered this as well.


Other movies too, like The Amazing Spider-Man. Peter was taking down muggers and other petty criminals, but, as Captain Stacy pointed out, he was actually interfering with the police and their plans for taking down more dangerous criminals.
 
2013-06-30 09:28:48 PM  

Shadowknight: Cheater71: I just don't see the sequel to this doing well. Too many people have already said they won't watch any movie with this version of superman. That doesn't bode well for the justice league film.

I think plenty of people have said they would.  You know, with it making tons of money.  I am just as geeky as any when it comes to this stuff, but we all know nerds like us tend to over-blow our reactions to things.  Right now, I think the movie is making plenty enough money that a sequel will happen.  And you tell the world that Batman is finally going face to face with Superman, every single person that said "worst Superman EVER" will line up around the corner to give them their money.

And don't even try to deny it.


It will easily get a sequel, i never said it wouldn't.

My belief is that the sequel will make a lot less then the studio wanted. Still a profit worldwide, but so much smaller domestic then what they were expecting, that it makes them rethink justice league. Especially if the aquaman movie winds up more like green lantern did and batman winds up more like man of steel.

You think people are mad that superman killed someone? Wait till batman snaps some thugs neck.
 
2013-06-30 09:30:25 PM  

Shadowknight: mr0x: At least it didn't involve Superman's amnesiac kiss.

That's one of my biggest annoyances with the old movies.  Just made powers up with no concern for canon.  I know Donner likely had nothing to do with the flying cellophane uniform S, but MAN that just pissed me off.


Donner didn't have anything to do with the cellophane S or amnesiac kiss. You should blame the Salkinds for that shiat.
 
2013-06-30 09:32:07 PM  

alwaysjaded: FuturePastNow: Could be setting up a sequel where he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Seems like a natural way for the sequel to go with lots of great potential for a Superman story arch. The Boys did an outstanding job of showing that just because you have a super power and a pair of tights, doesn't mean you instinctively know how to save the day without causing major problems.

/ I'm sure other comics have covered this as well.


Imagine the sequel's plotline picking up shortly after MoS ends.  Metropolis has to be rebuilt and Lexcorp is at the forefront of it.  During the clean-up, Lex's people get their mitts on some Kryptonian tech.  Battlesuits, armor, energy weapons, whatever.

Now, Lex...imagine the Lex from JLU.  Brilliant, cool, a genius at PR and business and all of it means nothing compared to a god-in-flesh.  So, he has to tear Superman down.  He sets up a PR campaign to poison the will of the people against Superman.  Blame him for the destruction and the deaths of so many.

Act II ramps it up as Superman is starting to doubt whether or not he should actually 'be' Superman, with so many deaths laid at his feet.  Lex's plan kicks into a higher gear as he uses Kryptonian tech to stage a second invasion, insinuating the first was a ploy and a trick to get the people to trust Superman.

Third act has the climax, Lex's plan revealed for the lie that it is, and Superman ends up nearly dying somehow in an effort to save every last goddamned person in danger, and the public turning on Lex.

Oh yeah, at the end of the sequel, there better be a last scene of some blonde chick casually lifting a truck off of someone before disappearing into the crowd.
 
2013-06-30 09:38:12 PM  

Sweet Chin Music: alwaysjaded: FuturePastNow: Could be setting up a sequel where he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Seems like a natural way for the sequel to go with lots of great potential for a Superman story arch. The Boys did an outstanding job of showing that just because you have a super power and a pair of tights, doesn't mean you instinctively know how to save the day without causing major problems.

/ I'm sure other comics have covered this as well.

Other movies too, like The Amazing Spider-Man. Peter was taking down muggers and other petty criminals, but, as Captain Stacy pointed out, he was actually interfering with the police and their plans for taking down more dangerous criminals.


Yup. I know it's been explored before. I just haven't read or seen everything so no blanket statements.
 
2013-06-30 09:40:34 PM  

Cheater71: Especially if the aquaman movie winds up more like green lantern did


This is about the only thing I can agree with you on.  The Green Lantern movie was terrible.  I really like Ryan Reynolds, but I don't think he really pulled off Hal Jordan.  Though, it's not really his fault either, the writing was just... Just bad.  Though, I was never really a fan of the Jordan character anyway.  Give me the JLU version of John Stewart any day, but I suppose that in order to have him you have to have Hal to begin with.  

That said, I really liked Man of Steel.  Yes, it was a bit darker and slower to move, but I thought it turned out cool and set up a lot of good stuff for the future movies.
 
2013-06-30 09:40:59 PM  

Infernalist: alwaysjaded: FuturePastNow: Could be setting up a sequel where he has to deal with the consequences of his actions.

Seems like a natural way for the sequel to go with lots of great potential for a Superman story arch. The Boys did an outstanding job of showing that just because you have a super power and a pair of tights, doesn't mean you instinctively know how to save the day without causing major problems.

/ I'm sure other comics have covered this as well.

Imagine the sequel's plotline picking up shortly after MoS ends.  Metropolis has to be rebuilt and Lexcorp is at the forefront of it.  During the clean-up, Lex's people get their mitts on some Kryptonian tech.  Battlesuits, armor, energy weapons, whatever.

Now, Lex...imagine the Lex from JLU.  Brilliant, cool, a genius at PR and business and all of it means nothing compared to a god-in-flesh.  So, he has to tear Superman down.  He sets up a PR campaign to poison the will of the people against Superman.  Blame him for the destruction and the deaths of so many.

Act II ramps it up as Superman is starting to doubt whether or not he should actually 'be' Superman, with so many deaths laid at his feet.  Lex's plan kicks into a higher gear as he uses Kryptonian tech to stage a second invasion, insinuating the first was a ploy and a trick to get the people to trust Superman.

Third act has the climax, Lex's plan revealed for the lie that it is, and Superman ends up nearly dying somehow in an effort to save every last goddamned person in danger, and the public turning on Lex.

Oh yeah, at the end of the sequel, there better be a last scene of some blonde chick casually lifting a truck off of someone before disappearing into the crowd.


This is a logical progression that would play into the xenophobia of MoS. This movie had to lay the framework for a different universe of Superman, much like Batman Begins did. Plus with room to grow some Justice League stuff.
 
2013-06-30 09:43:23 PM  

EnviroDude: Superman broke the neck of Zod.  I can't say I have seen where this has happened before (deliberately killing a villain).


He was forced to. If he didn't, that family would have been killed by Zoe's heat vision. Doing nothing would have also caused deaths. I just wished the final fight involved Superman struggling to fight Zod while also being distracted by having to save innocents caught in the crossfire.
 
2013-06-30 09:44:13 PM  
Man of Steel is Zack Snyders best movie. Not saying much but what did you guys expect?
 
2013-06-30 09:46:40 PM  
Loved this version of Superman, taking nothing away rom Donner's I and 2,  this one won me with the detail on Clark's mom teaching him he wasn't a freak going insane, on top of Pa Kent's usual guidance.   MOS was way better than the second Trek movie, IMO.  The ending battle in MOS was a tad long and really hammered home how evenly matched it all was, maybe for too long.  Zod's motivation in MOS is way better than any I've seen before, and makes the plot really make much more sense.
 
2013-06-30 09:47:32 PM  

Mad_Radhu: EnviroDude: Superman broke the neck of Zod.  I can't say I have seen where this has happened before (deliberately killing a villain).

He was forced to. If he didn't, that family would have been killed by Zoe's heat vision. Doing nothing would have also caused deaths. I just wished the final fight involved Superman struggling to fight Zod while also being distracted by having to save innocents caught in the crossfire.


This. That scene where superman flew though a gas station and it blew up really bothered me.
 
2013-06-30 09:47:55 PM  

Rwa2play: cameroncrazy1984: ManateeGag: cameroncrazy1984: Christopher Nolan produced it, right? I blame him. His Batman movies were awful too.

10/10 - that will get tons of bites

The best part is, I'm not even trolling.

The fact that his wife, who's not a comic geek yet knows about Superman's origin, saw the movie and said "That's not Superman" has to be worrying to WB.  Very.  Worrying.

It's stayed in the top 5, but the # of theaters it's been showed in has dropped.  Not exactly inspiring confidence.


It is still the second highest grossing movie of the year behind Iron Man 3, so I think WB is counting it as a win. I still think it was better than the non-Donner cut of Superman 2, but nowhere near as good as Superman: The Movie or All Star Superman.
 
2013-06-30 09:54:41 PM  

Cheater71: Mad_Radhu: EnviroDude: Superman broke the neck of Zod.  I can't say I have seen where this has happened before (deliberately killing a villain).

He was forced to. If he didn't, that family would have been killed by Zoe's heat vision. Doing nothing would have also caused deaths. I just wished the final fight involved Superman struggling to fight Zod while also being distracted by having to save innocents caught in the crossfire.

This. That scene where superman flew though a gas station and it blew up really bothered me.


Imagine a scene in the sequel.  We see Clark Kent and Lois Lane heading down into the city to see what Lex Luthor is unveiling at the 'Ground Zero' of the Kryptonian attack.

It's a monument with the name of every person who died in Smallville and Metropolis...and unbeknownst to anyone else, a subtle message can be seen just above the names, embedded in the stone monument by means of electrical wiring that only someone with Superman's sense can pick up.

"It's all your fault."

You see his horror and almost physical nausea as he's smacked in the face with the blunt reminder that he 'could' have saved all those people if he'd just been...faster...stronger...

Through the movie, he's confronted with this dilemma of not being fast enough, strong enough...or maybe just not ruthless enough.  That if he'd been willing to kill earlier, maybe some of those people could have been spared.

So now he's tempted with the efficiency and rationalization of murdering his enemies to spare future victims.  Another conflict for him to work through in the sequel.
 
2013-06-30 09:57:03 PM  
Goyer pretty much said to geeks to DEAL WITH IT.

/Didn't hate the film but didn't love it either.
 
2013-06-30 09:57:46 PM  
I hated it. JUST like DC's new 52, it had no heart.
Action, action, action, fark character development, action, dark, destruction!
The only people I know who liked it, weren't alive to see Superman 1 and 2, so there you go
Superman for a new generation. A destructive dick.

Give me Iron Man anyday.
 
2013-06-30 09:59:26 PM  

Infernalist: Cheater71: Mad_Radhu: EnviroDude: Superman broke the neck of Zod.  I can't say I have seen where this has happened before (deliberately killing a villain).

He was forced to. If he didn't, that family would have been killed by Zoe's heat vision. Doing nothing would have also caused deaths. I just wished the final fight involved Superman struggling to fight Zod while also being distracted by having to save innocents caught in the crossfire.

This. That scene where superman flew though a gas station and it blew up really bothered me.

Imagine a scene in the sequel.  We see Clark Kent and Lois Lane heading down into the city to see what Lex Luthor is unveiling at the 'Ground Zero' of the Kryptonian attack.

It's a monument with the name of every person who died in Smallville and Metropolis...and unbeknownst to anyone else, a subtle message can be seen just above the names, embedded in the stone monument by means of electrical wiring that only someone with Superman's sense can pick up.

"It's all your fault."

You see his horror and almost physical nausea as he's smacked in the face with the blunt reminder that he 'could' have saved all those people if he'd just been...faster...stronger...

Through the movie, he's confronted with this dilemma of not being fast enough, strong enough...or maybe just not ruthless enough.  That if he'd been willing to kill earlier, maybe some of those people could have been spared.

So now he's tempted with the efficiency and rationalization of murdering his enemies to spare future victims.  Another conflict for him to work through in the sequel.


That could actually work for me. Really committing to the grimness of Man of Steel. Might piss off the people who refuse to admit all those people died though. Of course i'd still like to see a different director. I didn't really like the pacing and all the flash backs to his childhood seemed oddly placed in the film.
 
2013-06-30 10:04:16 PM  

Kazan: fanboys are going to be butthurt NO MATTER WHAT. unbind your panties, and meet some members of the opposite gender without being a creeper.


Pretty much, when Superman Returns came out, fanboys complained that he was a big blue boy scout, demanding that a version be made more seeded in realism.

Now that they have that, they're complaining that he's not a big blue boy scout.

Snyder and Nolan knew they couldn't win either way, so they made a flawed, but entertaining movie.
 
2013-06-30 10:11:17 PM  

eddievercetti: Goyer pretty much said to geeks to DEAL WITH IT.

/Didn't hate the film but didn't love it either.


Sounds like Wesley Snipes needs to choke a biatch.

All kidding aside, Goyer proved himself a hack with Blade: Trinity and reaffirmed it with this hot mess. It's not like there wasn't potential, with the cast being great, save Cavill, and the effects mostly decent, but the movie felt incomplete at best.
 
2013-06-30 10:13:14 PM  
The first Iron Man is still the best comic book movie ever but Man of Steel is my favorite because I am partial to Superman. They really should have called this Superboyman though because it was all of the formative stuff in one shot. The second film will likely have Luthor in it and be a test of Superman and what he is. The third one will be Darkseid or Doomsday and will end the trilogy. Somewhere along the way human DNA will be able to coexist with Kryptonian, otherwise all of that codex crap will have been for nothing.
 
2013-06-30 10:16:36 PM  
That tornado scene was absolute schlock, though not as bad as that awkward scene in the church.
 
2013-06-30 10:25:21 PM  

Owangotang: The first Iron Man is still the best comic book movie ever but Man of Steel is my favorite because I am partial to Superman. They really should have called this Superboyman though because it was all of the formative stuff in one shot. The second film will likely have Luthor in it and be a test of Superman and what he is. The third one will be Darkseid or Doomsday and will end the trilogy. Somewhere along the way human DNA will be able to coexist with Kryptonian, otherwise all of that codex crap will have been for nothing.


Personally, I think they're eventually going to come to the realization that Earth is one of Krypton's outposts, and humanity is a mutated form of Kryptonian stock.
 
2013-06-30 10:26:24 PM  
So, are any of the posters defending MoS as a fresh re-boot of the property the same ones who are tearing up W.W.Z. for diverging from the book?
 
2013-06-30 10:26:46 PM  
I especially liked the flashback when 8-year old Superman ran around the backyard wearing a red cape with his hands on his hips, pretending to be Superman, before there was a Superman to pretend to be.

Maybe young Kal-El is just fabulous, with a forward fashion sense.
 
2013-06-30 10:30:01 PM  

Gleeman: So, are any of the posters defending MoS as a fresh re-boot of the property the same ones who are tearing up W.W.Z. for diverging from the book?


Sure, I'll bite.  Yes.  Because Man of Steel isn't a complete departure form the character.  It didn't turn Superman into a completely different person.  It's an origin story, as if no one has ever heard of him.  Including him.  He's never seen what he's completely capable of, and now that he knows, he's upset with himself and will define rules.

WWZ on the other hand may be a perfectly fine movie in its own right, but it just took the name of a popular book and has no connection to it.  Much like Lawnmower Man, it's simply capitalizing on the name.
 
2013-06-30 10:30:28 PM  

Gleeman: W.W.Z.


Now that was a shiatty movie.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SPOILERS
Brad Pitt has a theory about how to keep the zombies from attacking humans and keeps it to himself instead of telling his bro on the ship so they can take an armed team to the nearest CDC center to pick up some viruses.
 
2013-06-30 10:32:12 PM  

perigee: I especially liked the flashback when 8-year old Superman ran around the backyard wearing a red cape with his hands on his hips, pretending to be Superman, before there was a Superman to pretend to be.

Maybe young Kal-El is just fabulous, with a forward fashion sense.


Maybe he was just imitating some random Superhero in a random DC universe comic.
 
2013-06-30 10:36:37 PM  

buntz: Gleeman: So, are any of the posters defending MoS as a fresh re-boot of the property the same ones who are tearing up W.W.Z. for diverging from the book?

Sure, I'll bite.  Yes.  Because Man of Steel isn't a complete departure form the character.  It didn't turn Superman into a completely different person.  It's an origin story, as if no one has ever heard of him.  Including him.  He's never seen what he's completely capable of, and now that he knows, he's upset with himself and will define rules.

WWZ on the other hand may be a perfectly fine movie in its own right, but it just took the name of a popular book and has no connection to it.  Much like Lawnmower Man, it's simply capitalizing on the name.


Well to be honest I haven't seen MoS yet, but from what some people have been saying it's not just a 'take some random super hero and slap the Superman label on it' film then?

(See the Craig 'Bond' films for an example)
 
2013-06-30 10:37:41 PM  

Infernalist: perigee: I especially liked the flashback when 8-year old Superman ran around the backyard wearing a red cape with his hands on his hips, pretending to be Superman, before there was a Superman to pretend to be.

Maybe young Kal-El is just fabulous, with a forward fashion sense.

Maybe he was just imitating some random Superhero in a random DC universe comic.


The problem is, there are Very Few actual capes in Superhero-dom; Batman and Superman being the only continuing examples of it. The rest copped their styles from the originals, and none but Superman wear a red cape.
 
2013-06-30 10:41:22 PM  
I saw it a second time yesterday, and I enjoyed it just as much. Man of Steel was everything Superman Returns wasn't. What annoyed me the most about Superman Returns was how Lois still hadn't figured out that Clark was Superman. She should have figured it out years ago, when both of them vanished, and been really ticked off at him when he got back.

That's why I loved how Lois was actually a reporter in this one and figured out he was Clark. It's not like Clark carefully hid his tracks and I'm pretty sure half of Smallville knows Clark is Superman. But I loved that we didn't have to deal with any secret identity nonsense. I've seen those movies, television shows, cartoons, and comics. It's been done, done well, but I'm happy to move on. While the DCAU Superman:Doomsday movie has its flaws, it did one thing right. Superman and Lois have a pretty intimate relationship, and she knows his secret identity. Superman refuses to tell her, though, and it's a big source of conflict between them.

I also wasn't upset by the massive destruction and how Superman wasn't rescuing civilians during the battle. That's not who he was in this movie. He was raw, unpolished, and making mistakes. The Superman in the next movie will be shaped by this one. He'll live with the regret of all the destruction, all the lives he could have saved but didn't. He'll especially regret killing Zod and vow to never take a life. And he'll take better care to avoid civilian casualties.

Like The Dark Knight, I predict the sequel to what was essentially "Superman Begins" will be even better. The third movie will be enjoyable but might not hold up to the other two.
 
2013-06-30 10:42:22 PM  

perigee: Infernalist: perigee: I especially liked the flashback when 8-year old Superman ran around the backyard wearing a red cape with his hands on his hips, pretending to be Superman, before there was a Superman to pretend to be.

Maybe young Kal-El is just fabulous, with a forward fashion sense.

Maybe he was just imitating some random Superhero in a random DC universe comic.

The problem is, there are Very Few actual capes in Superhero-dom; Batman and Superman being the only continuing examples of it. The rest copped their styles from the originals, and none but Superman wear a red cape.


He was clearly playing Sargon the Sorceror. Duh.
 
2013-06-30 10:43:11 PM  

Gleeman: So, are any of the posters defending MoS as a fresh re-boot of the property the same ones who are tearing up W.W.Z. for diverging from the book?


I enjoyed WWZ, too.
 
2013-06-30 10:43:24 PM  

perigee: Infernalist: perigee: I especially liked the flashback when 8-year old Superman ran around the backyard wearing a red cape with his hands on his hips, pretending to be Superman, before there was a Superman to pretend to be.

Maybe young Kal-El is just fabulous, with a forward fashion sense.

Maybe he was just imitating some random Superhero in a random DC universe comic.

The problem is, there are Very Few actual capes in Superhero-dom; Batman and Superman being the only continuing examples of it. The rest copped their styles from the originals, and none but Superman wear a red cape.


Right, when I said 'some random Superhero in a random DC universe comic', I was referring to a made-up comic hero that doesn't really exist in that universe.

I think I just hurt my brain.
 
2013-06-30 10:44:20 PM  

soporific: I also wasn't upset by the massive destruction and how Superman wasn't rescuing civilians during the battle. That's not who he was in this movie. He was raw, unpolished, and making mistakes. The Superman in the next movie will be shaped by this one. He'll live with the regret of all the destruction, all the lives he could have saved but didn't. He'll especially regret killing Zod and vow to never take a life. And he'll take better care to avoid civilian casualties.


Well said
 
2013-06-30 10:45:13 PM  

quatchi: Molavian: Thank f*ck they rebooted it again, unlike when I saw that Bryan Singer abortion of a movie.

I absolutely loved this one.

THIS.


I don't get the haters...I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.  That's all I ask.  Lots of personal moments, lots of action, good story.  Elements of a joke here and there.  Worth my money, will see it again.

No movie is going to resonate with 100% of the audience.  Haters can suck it.
 
2013-06-30 10:50:44 PM  

Fade2black: quatchi: Molavian: Thank f*ck they rebooted it again, unlike when I saw that Bryan Singer abortion of a movie.

I absolutely loved this one.

THIS.

I don't get the haters...I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.  That's all I ask.  Lots of personal moments, lots of action, good story.  Elements of a joke here and there.  Worth my money, will see it again.

No movie is going to resonate with 100% of the audience.  Haters can suck it.


I enjoyed MoS.   It's not perfect, but it's one of the better summer movies I've seen thus far.  Star Trek is at the top spot for me thus far.
 
2013-06-30 10:51:01 PM  

Zombie DJ: I hated it. JUST like DC's new 52, it had no heart.
Action, action, action, fark character development, action, dark, destruction!
The only people I know who liked it, weren't alive to see Superman 1 and 2, so there you go
Superman for a new generation. A destructive dick.


Since it's a DC Entertainment movie, I just automatically expect it to suck.

That's generally all they're capable of.
 
Displayed 50 of 189 comments

First | « | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | » | Last | Show all

View Voting Results: Smartest and Funniest


This thread is archived, and closed to new comments.

Continue Farking
Submit a Link »
Advertisement
On Twitter





In Other Media


  1. Links are submitted by members of the Fark community.

  2. When community members submit a link, they also write a custom headline for the story.

  3. Other Farkers comment on the links. This is the number of comments. Click here to read them.

  4. Click here to submit a link.

Report