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(Guardian)   At first, Europe was amused to hear about the NSA spying program. They are no longer amused   (guardian.co.uk) divider line 255
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2013-06-30 10:02:31 AM  
Then: le HaHaHa

Now: le WTF?
 
2013-06-30 10:04:04 AM  
i.imgur.com   NSA exists.
 
2013-06-30 10:05:33 AM  
They all participated willingly. Most with even less oversight than the US
 
2013-06-30 10:05:47 AM  
How DARE we treat the rest of the world like we treat our own citizens!!

Exceptionalism!!!!!
 
2013-06-30 10:06:19 AM  
we only spy on enemies
its to keep us safe
watch your step EU

(mind you, mutual monitoring might make sense
but im not sure thats happening)
 
2013-06-30 10:07:32 AM  
This is not the change we were hoping for.
 
2013-06-30 10:09:16 AM  
I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

I know there's an argument to be made that everyone spies on everyone, but don't we have higher stan-
 
2013-06-30 10:09:21 AM  

bindlestiff2600: we only spy on enemies
its to keep us safe
watch your step EU

(mind you, mutual monitoring might make sense
but im not sure thats happening)


Listen to last week's "Le Show". It's happening.
 
2013-06-30 10:19:03 AM  

bindlestiff2600: we only spy on enemies
its to keep us safe
watch your step EU

(mind you, mutual monitoring might make sense
but im not sure thats happening)


Oh, it's happening.

British spy agency collects and stores vast quantities of global email messages, Facebook posts, internet histories and calls, and shares them with NSA, latest documents from Edward Snowden reveal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-co mm unications-nsa
 
2013-06-30 10:22:58 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

I know there's an argument to be made that everyone spies on everyone, but don't we have higher stan-


Why would they be? The whole spy business seems like high-grade professional paranoia to me, anyone not watching allies is slacking off! And you might be able to learn things about your enemies by watching your allies, right?
 
2013-06-30 10:24:03 AM  
After all, we all know the EU chiefs would NEVER do something like bug diplomats phones.   NEVER!!!
 
2013-06-30 10:25:40 AM  

AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?


This is the single most naive thought I've ever seen expressed on Fark.
 
2013-06-30 10:28:14 AM  

BMulligan: AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

This is the single most naive thought I've ever seen expressed on Fark.


You will note he was cut off mid-sentence.

Looks like someone got to him.

/hope he's ok
 
2013-06-30 10:29:30 AM  
Was the world sleeping when Australia complained about the U.S. locking them out of the spy-info sharing, back in 98?  Echelon was it's name. Hmmmm, who was president back then, because it wasn't the black guy, nor that other limp white guy? Could it have been that lovable blue dog named Clinton?
 
2013-06-30 10:30:18 AM  
Why do I feel very unmoved when international leaders are shocked (shocked!) to find out other countries are spying on them. I guarantee that every European nation with the technological ability is also spying on the US (and EU for that matter).
 
2013-06-30 10:31:18 AM  
I can't stand this s*** anymore. Please, USA butt out....
 
2013-06-30 10:31:39 AM  

BMulligan: AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

This is the single most naive thought I've ever seen expressed on Fark.


Seconded.
 
2013-06-30 10:32:44 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: This is not the change we were hoping for.


cdn.meme.li
 
2013-06-30 10:32:57 AM  
Pretty sure countries spying on each other has been a fact of human civilization since at least the Zhou Dynasty, and more than likely before then too. Why is this news?
 
2013-06-30 10:34:18 AM  

BMulligan: AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

This is the single most naive thought I've ever seen expressed on Fark.



well yes, nowadays
but once upon a time
the quote
 "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail."  was made
a more civilized time
 
2013-06-30 10:40:33 AM  

Weatherkiss: Pretty sure countries spying on each other has been a fact of human civilization since at least the Zhou Dynasty, and more than likely before then too. Why is this news?


Because we were careless enough to get caught doing it. Now the EU leaders have to act shocked to maintain the pretence this isn't standard operating procedure for them too.
 
2013-06-30 10:42:08 AM  
What the NSA is up to is extremely concerning. That being said, The Guardian is quickly losing its credibility in reporting this story:

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/42204_Guardian-Observer_Publ is hes_Then_Pulls_New_NSA_Bombshell_Story_Featuring_Birther_Wayne_Madsen
 
2013-06-30 10:43:33 AM  

bindlestiff2600: BMulligan: AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

This is the single most naive thought I've ever seen expressed on Fark.


well yes, nowadays
but once upon a time
the quote
 "Gentlemen do not read each other's mail."  was made
a more civilized time


Nonsense. That was always a principle honored only in the breach.
 
2013-06-30 10:45:55 AM  

Now That's What I Call a Taco!: What the NSA is up to is extremely concerning. That being said, The Guardian is quickly losing its credibility in reporting this story:


Yeah, well, at least they get some OVERSIGHT. You know , the OVERSIGHT clearly lacking everywhere else :)
 
2013-06-30 10:48:38 AM  
And France immediately surrenders.
 
2013-06-30 10:52:17 AM  
Some things are only funny when they happen to somebody else. Film at 11.
 
2013-06-30 10:52:45 AM  
I'm pretty sure that this is the start of the final countdown.
 
2013-06-30 10:54:12 AM  
I was told that, as an American citizen, I should expect that my government would have the capability to monitor me, and that they will exercise that power as they see fit.

And that is cool, I shouldn't worry, unless I'm breaking the law.

Of course, I was told that by weenies on this website (any actual human being I've talked to is outraged), but still.

Anyway, where was I?  Oh, yeah, why are these countries (also) outraged?  OF COURSE we are spying on them!

Isn't it obvious that is what we, a freedom loving democracy, founded under the idea of restricted government and grounded in the ideals of mutual respect and individual freedom, would do that?
 
2013-06-30 11:01:27 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: This is not the change we were hoping for.


You're including yourself in that?
 
2013-06-30 11:02:19 AM  

BMulligan: AnonAmbientLight: I'm not a major in political science: international edition, but shouldn't you assume long standing allies as being exempt from spying?

This is the single most naive thought I've ever seen expressed on Fark.


If thinking that we are still the good guys, and not the guys that I hid under a desk from while growing up due to their crazy statist views, then I want to stay ignorant, dammit!

What was the number one thing that you heard about the bad guys?  The fascists, the commies...  They spied on everyone, turned their media into propaganda, and repressed dissent.

WE AREN'T SUPPOSED TO DO THOSE THINGS.  THE BAD GUYS DO THOSE THINGS.

/there, now that's the most naive statement you've seen on Fark
 
2013-06-30 11:05:32 AM  

The Numbers: Weatherkiss: Pretty sure countries spying on each other has been a fact of human civilization since at least the Zhou Dynasty, and more than likely before then too. Why is this news?

Because we were careless enough to get caught doing it. Now the EU leaders have to act shocked to maintain the pretence this isn't standard operating procedure for them too.


imageshack.us

"I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of shiattim authorities spying on Jericho offices. If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on shiattim-Jericho relations."
 
2013-06-30 11:06:31 AM  
Ha! Filterpwned.
 
2013-06-30 11:06:56 AM  
First they came for the self-important, 30ish IT douchebags that enjoyed pointing out the blasted hypocrisy of our government, and I didn't say anything because...

Wait, I am one of those.

I'm outraged.
 
2013-06-30 11:07:55 AM  

Weatherkiss: The Numbers: Weatherkiss: Pretty sure countries spying on each other has been a fact of human civilization since at least the Zhou Dynasty, and more than likely before then too. Why is this news?

Because we were careless enough to get caught doing it. Now the EU leaders have to act shocked to maintain the pretence this isn't standard operating procedure for them too.

[imageshack.us image 444x600]

"I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of shiattim authorities spying on Jericho offices. If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on shiattim-Jericho relations."


Holy shiattite.
 
2013-06-30 11:11:35 AM  
The magazine quoted from a "top secret" US National Security Agency (NSA) document from September 2010 that it said former NSA contractor Edward Snowden had taken with him, and which its journalists had seen in part.

Oh ho.

So Snowden does still have some tricks in his bag.

/good_cat.jpg
 
2013-06-30 11:14:17 AM  

tenpoundsofcheese: This is not the change we were hoping for.


We? You a closet Obama voter?
 
2013-06-30 11:15:10 AM  
imageshack.us

"I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of English authorities spying on French offices. If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on England-France relations."
 
2013-06-30 11:15:19 AM  
i560.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-30 11:15:39 AM  
As if they didn't already know that...
 
2013-06-30 11:19:11 AM  

cc_rider: bindlestiff2600: we only spy on enemies
its to keep us safe
watch your step EU

(mind you, mutual monitoring might make sense
but im not sure thats happening)

Oh, it's happening.

British spy agency collects and stores vast quantities of global email messages, Facebook posts, internet histories and calls, and shares them with NSA, latest documents from Edward Snowden reveal

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/jun/21/gchq-cables-secret-world-co mm unications-nsa


Two questions:

1) Why not show us the documents
2) If these were stolen, how'd they get redacted?
 
2013-06-30 11:20:02 AM  

sendtodave: The magazine quoted from a "top secret" US National Security Agency (NSA) document from September 2010 that it said former NSA contractor Edward Snowden had taken with him, and which its journalists had seen in part.

Oh ho.

So Snowden does still have some tricks in his bag.

/good_cat.jpg


He's such a hero, keeping that information from us.
 
2013-06-30 11:29:37 AM  
imageshack.us

"I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of Confederate authorities spying on Union offices. If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on Confederacy-Union relations."
 
2013-06-30 11:31:09 AM  
Oh, please, like their offices back home for Americans aren't bugged to the teeth as well. The difference is they got an opportunity to act shocked and angered in order to embarrass the Americans into divulge intelligence that they would never get otherwise. Snowden screwed over the county in ways that everyone is only beginning to understand.
 
2013-06-30 11:33:08 AM  

gnosis301: tenpoundsofcheese: This is not the change we were hoping for.

We? You a closet Obama voter?


Careful! Fark doesn't take too kindly to "DownLobama" jokes.
 
2013-06-30 11:37:37 AM  

vygramul: sendtodave: The magazine quoted from a "top secret" US National Security Agency (NSA) document from September 2010 that it said former NSA contractor Edward Snowden had taken with him, and which its journalists had seen in part.

Oh ho.

So Snowden does still have some tricks in his bag.

/good_cat.jpg

He's such a hero, keeping that information from us.


You guys really don't like him, do you?

/good_cat.jpg
//it was (partially) revealed to journalists to give the NSA a black eye
///good_cat.jpg
 
2013-06-30 11:39:44 AM  

mekki: Oh, please, like their offices back home for Americans aren't bugged to the teeth as well. The difference is they got an opportunity to act shocked and angered in order to embarrass the Americans into divulge intelligence that they would never get otherwise. Snowden screwed over the county in ways that everyone is only beginning to understand.


Yes, let's all assume that everyone is farking over everyone else, and then base our policy (and morality) on farking them over first.
 
2013-06-30 11:41:12 AM  

mekki: Snowden screwed over the county in ways that everyone is only beginning to understand.


Oh, and

img.pandawhale.com
 
2013-06-30 11:41:59 AM  
FTFA: Schulz said: "I am deeply worried and shocked about the allegations of US authorities spying on EU offices. If the allegations prove to be true, it would be an extremely serious matter which will have a severe impact on EU-US relations.

Let me explain to everyone how international relations works:

Country A:  I can't believe you did that!  This is outrageous!
Country B:  Uh huh.  And what are you going to do about it?
Country A:  Sigh....nothing.  Dammit.

Two months later.

Country B:  I can't believe you did that!  This is outrageous!
Country A:  Uh huh.  And what are you going to do about it?
Country B:  Sigh....nothing.  Dammit.

Repeat unto infinity.  Exceptions made only for the first world picking on countries everyone hates.
 
2013-06-30 11:42:37 AM  

sendtodave: vygramul: sendtodave: The magazine quoted from a "top secret" US National Security Agency (NSA) document from September 2010 that it said former NSA contractor Edward Snowden had taken with him, and which its journalists had seen in part.

Oh ho.

So Snowden does still have some tricks in his bag.

/good_cat.jpg

He's such a hero, keeping that information from us.

You guys really don't like him, do you?

/good_cat.jpg
//it was (partially) revealed to journalists to give the NSA a black eye
///good_cat.jpg


I don't like liars. People are willing to believe what he says because it comports with their suspicions. The documentation released to the public does not support the scope asserted. Yet we're totally willing to believe this guy despite the fact that the few things we've been able to check on turned out to be exaggerations at best.
 
2013-06-30 11:44:50 AM  

vygramul: I don't like liars.


So... you support the NSA?
 
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