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2013-06-30 01:00:23 PM  

LeroyBourne: I wonder (on avg) how often their bathrooms get trashed.


probably pretty often, but as usual the passive-aggressive don't think through. you the 2 jack-off owners clean it?
 
2013-06-30 01:00:37 PM  

Brittabot: The Thoroughbred of Sin: I thought this was one of the more interesting bits:
2). No outside Food or Beverages may be brought inside ABC.

Want to pack a lunch?  NO FOOD FOR YOU!
how on earth is that rational at all?  I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.

But then crazy Amy is crazy.

That's made even more appallingly unfair when you realize that ABC does not give any free or even discounted food to its employees. The waitress who answered questions on Reddit awhile back said any food they wanted to eat had to be purchased at full price.

So not only are the workers paid shiattily, they now have to take cost of their own meals into account as well.

Stay classy ABC!


Not saying it's right, they should get a discount, but waitstaff don't, typicly, work long shifts. Eat before you go to work.
 
2013-06-30 01:02:46 PM  
Dear greedhead, yuppie, designer, money worshiping, leftover '80s, Reagan fellating, neocon, gimme gimme, oppressive twats, corporate whores, dime store thugs, billionaire sh*tstains and sock puppet politicians.

The people who put money in your pockets are really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, fed up with your sh*t.

No.

Really.
 
2013-06-30 01:10:37 PM  

The Numbers: The Thoroughbred of Sin: I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.

Risk of health-code violations?
Bad for the image? McDonalds would hardly be thrilled at their employees eating Burger King stuff on their premises.


It's funny that you think McDonald's workers would have time on their lunch breaks to run to Burger King and back.
 
2013-06-30 01:10:56 PM  

Barfmaker: dickfreckle: If this contract is real, it's not much different than than what many restaurant employees endure even without signing something. The tips thing is over the top, but the language in this contract isn't far different from what you'll actually hear on the floor of a turn-burn establishment.

If you want to make money in the hospitality business, either tend bar at a trendy spot (difficult gigs to get) or wait tables where dinner and wine for 2 is $175, and you have a 4 table section that rotates in reasonable time.

Whatever you do, turn down offers for management. Christ, that was the worst job I ever had. All the headaches (all of them) and you were making more as a bartender a few months ago.

Yup, bartender at my local I reckon is making almost 80k/year on 4 shifts/week, no weekends. It's all regulars and we're all older and tip outrageously well (2 bucks per pint).




The bartender will not sleep with you no matter how much you tip.
 
2013-06-30 01:12:55 PM  

HempHead: Barfmaker: dickfreckle: If this contract is real, it's not much different than than what many restaurant employees endure even without signing something. The tips thing is over the top, but the language in this contract isn't far different from what you'll actually hear on the floor of a turn-burn establishment.

If you want to make money in the hospitality business, either tend bar at a trendy spot (difficult gigs to get) or wait tables where dinner and wine for 2 is $175, and you have a 4 table section that rotates in reasonable time.

Whatever you do, turn down offers for management. Christ, that was the worst job I ever had. All the headaches (all of them) and you were making more as a bartender a few months ago.

Yup, bartender at my local I reckon is making almost 80k/year on 4 shifts/week, no weekends. It's all regulars and we're all older and tip outrageously well (2 bucks per pint).

The bartender will not sleep with you no matter how much you tip.


No, but they will recognize me as the person who tips well and they will mix special drinks when I come in.
 
2013-06-30 01:12:58 PM  

bunner: Dear greedhead, yuppie, designer, money worshiping, leftover '80s, Reagan fellating, neocon, gimme gimme, oppressive twats, corporate whores, dime store thugs, billionaire sh*tstains and sock puppet politicians.

The people who put money in your pockets are really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, fed up with your sh*t.


Oh, give it a break. If people were really that unhappy they wouldn't spend so much money worshipping at the altar of Apple, Starbucks, McDonalds, Disney etc.
 
2013-06-30 01:13:39 PM  

Endive Wombat: ginandbacon: How would you enforce a clause that someone can't open up their own place down the street? That's insane.

Again, look at their staff.  Ignorant teenage girls.


Strippers' "independent contractor" contracts have similar provisions.  Fines for not keeping to schedule; stage fees (taking tips before you even get them).  It's not independent contractor status by any stretch of IRS rules.  But, ignorant teenaged girls.
 
2013-06-30 01:14:44 PM  

The Numbers: The Thoroughbred of Sin: I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.

Risk of health-code violations?
Bad for the image? McDonalds would hardly be thrilled at their employees eating Burger King stuff on their premises.


It IS against health code for employees to eat on the line. There should be designated break areas for folks to eat--likewise no open containers for drinks, which means you need covered cups, with straws to avoid spills. AZ is somewhat patchy with enforcement though. The thing is, employee dining areas are supposed to be away from the line, and away from the service area. Folks should be able to eat on premises, but the rule against bringing in food is just a way to get employees to purchase your goods--which is more just a bit shady. I do employee meals, and if folks want to purchase something that's not on the menu for the day, then they can do so at a discount. Everything about these folks screams shady and crazy. These are the folks who give my profession a bad name, and it's also why I don't do consultations any more. For every restaurant that is in trouble and needs a hand, there are a half dozen folks who are just circling the drain from piss poor management and lack of anything resembling ethics or business sense, and it's hard to tell someone who sunk their life savings into a joint, that they'd be best off selling everything and getting out at a loss. Take that back: there are a few folks I relished giving that news to, and this sort of shady crap is just begging for a lawsuit, or six, just to scrub them from the business, and maybe get someone into their space who has some gottverdammt sense...
 
2013-06-30 01:15:57 PM  

picturescrazy: BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....

What the crap kind of place schedules like that?


Walmart. A lot of the shiattier retail jobs, actually. It isn't bad enough that you're being paid minimum wage to deal with some of the worst people in the world, they have to make sure the experience is just terrible on every level.
 
2013-06-30 01:17:27 PM  

BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....




"And shall not work for any competitor within a 50 mile radius of ABC within one year of temination"
 
2013-06-30 01:22:33 PM  
Sheriff Joe is just down the street and he can provide lots of help for pennies on the dollar.
 
2013-06-30 01:24:24 PM  

buckler: Maus III: 14). Respect and distance must be given to all fellow employees. No harassment or bulling of any type will be tolerated and will be cause for immediate termination.

Yeah. I'm with them on this: no bulling in the store. Feel free to bull yourself silly on your on own time.


bull/bool/

Noun
An uncastrated male bovine animal.A papal edict.Stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.

Adjective
(of a part of the body, esp. the neck) Resembling the corresponding part of a male bovine animal in build and strength.

Verb
Push or drive powerfully or violently: "he bulled the motorcycle clear of the tunnel".

Synonyms
ox


So no powerful or violent pushing or driving of other staff. Got it.


That clause is probably there because 20 minutes of Amy would make anyone want to bull her.
 
2013-06-30 01:28:05 PM  

The Numbers: Oh, give it a break. If people were really that unhappy they wouldn't spend so much money worshipping at the altar of Apple, Starbucks, McDonalds, Disney etc.


Maybe you should give the "Oh, pooh!  People LOVE pseudo-prestigious crap, so phooey!" a rest.  Just saying.  People love salt, sugar and lard, too but it doesn't make it a good diet.
 
2013-06-30 01:29:05 PM  
The train wreck continues.
 
2013-06-30 01:33:40 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: HempHead: Barfmaker: dickfreckle: If this contract is real, it's not much different than than what many restaurant employees endure even without signing something. The tips thing is over the top, but the language in this contract isn't far different from what you'll actually hear on the floor of a turn-burn establishment.

If you want to make money in the hospitality business, either tend bar at a trendy spot (difficult gigs to get) or wait tables where dinner and wine for 2 is $175, and you have a 4 table section that rotates in reasonable time.

Whatever you do, turn down offers for management. Christ, that was the worst job I ever had. All the headaches (all of them) and you were making more as a bartender a few months ago.

Yup, bartender at my local I reckon is making almost 80k/year on 4 shifts/week, no weekends. It's all regulars and we're all older and tip outrageously well (2 bucks per pint).

The bartender will not sleep with you no matter how much you tip.

No, but they will recognize me as the person who tips well and they will mix special drinks when I come in.




Well, as long as you are recognized as a big tipper, I guess it's well worth it. May you guys could get little buttons to wear that way when you visit other places, people will be aware of your tipping prowess?
 
2013-06-30 01:36:42 PM  
...just watched the full KN episode on utube - just, wow

   It's been a while since I worked in a restaurant, but a clear memory.  I'd have had almost no problem with part of this "contract" (ie, "show up 5 minutes early, ready to work) and, being 16 I would likely have agreed and signed without knowing better.

   I'm older now and would gleefully have called the IRS (to start) a long time ago if someone was taking all the cash tips. Then the labor board.

   That other crap about "no purses"? why? is your business going to fold if i have to walk to my car on the break i doubt i get to grab a kotex (rather than pay for one out of a machine, i guess)?

   As for "non-compete" w/i 50 miles? shrieking paranoia is truly scary.
 
2013-06-30 01:39:46 PM  

ZeroCorpse: I wish they'd just throw these two into a cage with the Koch brothers and a few baseball nail-filled baseball bats, and tell them only one person will be let out of the cage in the end.

And then don't open the cage in the end, anyway, because the winner had "an attitude."


This is my idea for one of those big, outdoor summer festivals. This is called Slug Fest. This is for men only. Here's what you do. You get about a hundred thousand of these farking men. You know the ones I mean. These macho motherfarkers. These strutting, preening, posturing, hairy, sweaty, alpha male jackoffs. The muscle assholes. You take about a hundred thousand of these disgusting pricks, and you throw them in a big dirt arena, big twenty-five acre dirt arena. And you just let them beat the shiat out of each other  for twenty-four hours non-stop. No food, no water, just whiskey and PCP. And you just let them punch and pound and kick the shiat out of each other until only one guy is left standing, then you take that guy and you put him on a pedestal and you shoot him in the farking head.
 
2013-06-30 01:41:24 PM  

bunner: TV's Vinnie: The anger IS beginning to rise, and it's growing.

Yeah, the *taps *watch* spoke more to "so, in about 5 min.?" than to "yeah, sure."


Well, sorry it's not running on your timetable, Mister Impatient.
 
2013-06-30 01:46:48 PM  
Businesses with a left-leaning ethos tend to have a dependence on cultish followings of fanboys who make purchasing decisions based on emotions. Apple, Ben and Jerry's, Starbucks. Left-leaning businesses also do better in service sectors where absolute quality is less important that perceived quality.

Businesses with a right-leaning ethos (aka 'businesses') mostly depend upon profitability in a competitive market, where purchasing decisions are made based upon value-for-money.
 
2013-06-30 01:47:01 PM  
"TOSViolation: I hope nobody is stupid enough to work for them or buy anything from them.I'd be happy to hear that both of them got life sentences in FPMITA prison."

She already spent time in PMITA prison. In 2003, she pled guilty to one count of misusing a social security number, a class D felony.
 
2013-06-30 01:50:08 PM  

TV's Vinnie: bunner: TV's Vinnie: The anger IS beginning to rise, and it's growing.

Yeah, the *taps *watch* spoke more to "so, in about 5 min.?" than to "yeah, sure."

Well, sorry it's not running on your timetable, Mister Impatient.


I think you missed the point, but.. yeah, that helped.  Sure.
 
2013-06-30 01:54:32 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Waldo Pepper: ^^^^^^I'm sure is the first too complain when a retail store is short-handed due to weather issues, prom, holidays or if a store is closed for Easter/Christmas.

A lot of stores are ALREADY short-handed because of cheapskate management. Gotta keep those CEO bonuses high every year NO! MATTER! WHAT!


and even shorter handed when the kid who said he could work and is schedule is a no show because Mom feels it is more important that he goes to Aunt Linda's for the day after thanksgiving.  I'm sorry you took a job i retail and you expect black friday off, even worse is the idiot who takes a job in retail management and expects black friday off.
 
2013-06-30 01:55:24 PM  
My point, should you be curious, was that - in light of all of the cheap, disingenuous, two faced prick as a business model, usurious, class war instigating, wealth disparity encouraging, sh*tty, hateful behavior that passes for culture, these days - if Armageddon started outside of my window in 5 min. not only would I not be surprised, I would probably dance.
 
2013-06-30 01:58:01 PM  
bunner:  if Armageddon started outside of my window in 5 min. not only would I not be surprised, I would probably dance.

Guilty pleasure movie, hard to dance to though
 
2013-06-30 01:58:59 PM  
I'm thinking the thing about purses and packages is a desperate fear of recording devices/cameras. That also explains the ban of cell phones.

I'd pay good money for a video of someone just slapping that crazy biatch silly.
 
2013-06-30 02:00:58 PM  
Haw!
 
2013-06-30 02:02:08 PM  

incrdbil: I'm thinking the thing about purses and packages is a desperate fear of recording devices/cameras. That also explains the ban of cell phones.

I'd pay good money for a video of someone just slapping that crazy biatch silly.


or theft of costly food.  no cell phones makes sense, not sure why anyone thinks they have the right to talk or text on a cell phone while at work (unless its permitted).
 
2013-06-30 02:02:59 PM  
Ohh, I could have a field day with this contract... Shame I am based in the UK. I so want a job there!
 
2013-06-30 02:04:46 PM  

Waldo Pepper: TV's Vinnie: Waldo Pepper: ^^^^^^I'm sure is the first too complain when a retail store is short-handed due to weather issues, prom, holidays or if a store is closed for Easter/Christmas.

A lot of stores are ALREADY short-handed because of cheapskate management. Gotta keep those CEO bonuses high every year NO! MATTER! WHAT!

and even shorter handed when the kid who said he could work and is schedule is a no show because Mom feels it is more important that he goes to Aunt Linda's for the day after thanksgiving.  I'm sorry you took a job i retail and you expect black friday off, even worse is the idiot who takes a job in retail management and expects black friday off.


That's a pretty interesting world you have there up your own ass.
 
2013-06-30 02:05:14 PM  

TV's Vinnie: Waldo Pepper: TV's Vinnie: Waldo Pepper: ^^^^^^I'm sure is the first too complain when a retail store is short-handed due to weather issues, prom, holidays or if a store is closed for Easter/Christmas.

A lot of stores are ALREADY short-handed because of cheapskate management. Gotta keep those CEO bonuses high every year NO! MATTER! WHAT!

and even shorter handed when the kid who said he could work and is schedule is a no show because Mom feels it is more important that he goes to Aunt Linda's for the day after thanksgiving.  I'm sorry you took a job i retail and you expect black friday off, even worse is the idiot who takes a job in retail management and expects black friday off.

That's a pretty interesting world you have there up your own ass.


in what way?
 
2013-06-30 02:12:53 PM  

ZeroCorpse: Yes. Baseball nails. They're a special kind of nail. Shut up.


static.someecards.com
 
2013-06-30 02:16:45 PM  

semiotix: I like the "no food in the kitchen" rule. Tough but fair!


No food in the kitchen, no fighting in the war room!
 
2013-06-30 02:18:44 PM  
The contract for employees working at Crazy Amy's Baking Company is as farked up as you would imagine


Only valid if "you" have never worked a farking day in your life at a service job any minimum wage job  any job where you're a front line employee.  Which apparently applies to subby.

Everybody I've ever worked with has had rules that go more or less that route.  The $250 fee for missing a holiday seems slightly messed up but I've heard of places with mandatory suspensions for missing critical days without a valid excuse.  I'm pretty sure the one-year non compete clause wouldn't survive any sort of court challenge.  What's shocking is that it's not halfway as messed up as I would imagine a contract at ABC would be (what, no kneeling upon the entrance of His or Her Majesty?).  And if I had to actually work for these people, I'd be inclined to take the guaranteed money rather than hope that this place could generate enough customers after the lookey loo factor of their trainwreck on television.
 
2013-06-30 02:20:27 PM  

Bathia_Mapes: Hopefully the state labor board will investigate.


I don't know about the state, but I'd bet the county would look the other way. After all, that's Sheriff Joe's county.
 
2013-06-30 02:28:06 PM  

Brittabot: I love how they honestly think they can enforce a non-compete clause for A farkING YEAR after the employee stops working there! I can understand them not wanting employees to work for a competitor while they are still ABC employees (even though it may not be legal to enforce even that), but to think they can bar them from working in any other restaurant within 50 miles for a year is a complete joke.


Not even that.  Typically the point of non-compete clauses is either to protect trade secrets or valuable customers from being poached.  My guess is these two are doing a lot more to drive customers away than the employee would by the latter.  In the case of the former, exactly how in the fark do you make unwrapping the product you bought somewhere else and packaging it as your own a "trade secret"?  I know, I know; go ask Apple or Samsung or the assholes who sued Drew.


DerAppie: Fark_Guy_Rob: The only issue I have are requiring people to be ready 'five minutes before'; IE - they are expecting five minutes of work for free.

They say you need to be ready to start working at least 5 minutes in advance. You don't actually need to start working 5 minutes in advance. That is quite a relevant difference.


Now that's a surprise.  A lot of places that I've applied to expect people to be there 15 minutes in advance.
 
2013-06-30 02:29:15 PM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Bathia_Mapes: Hopefully the state labor board will investigate.

I don't know about the state, but I'd bet the county would look the other way. After all, that's Sheriff Joe's county.


Now we all know Sheriff Joe would kick Sami out of the country as an illegal.
 
2013-06-30 02:30:22 PM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: Bathia_Mapes: Hopefully the state labor board will investigate.

I don't know about the state, but I'd bet the county would look the other way. After all, that's Sheriff Joe's county.


What, you mean he isn't going after something that would be guaranteed to land his media whore ass on the cable networks?   I need to locate my fainting couch, because I do think the vapors are overcoming me.
 
2013-06-30 02:36:43 PM  

Tom_Slick: not work for any competitor within a 50 mile radius of ABC within one year of temination or voluntary Resignation.

2 things:

Termination is spelled wrong

Arizona is a right to work state so non-compete clauses are worthless.


That's not what "right to work" means.
 
2013-06-30 03:02:54 PM  

The Numbers: bunner: Dear greedhead, yuppie, designer, money worshiping, leftover '80s, Reagan fellating, neocon, gimme gimme, oppressive twats, corporate whores, dime store thugs, billionaire sh*tstains and sock puppet politicians.

The people who put money in your pockets are really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, fed up with your sh*t.

Oh, give it a break. If people were really that unhappy they wouldn't spend so much money worshipping at the altar of Apple, Starbucks, McDonalds, Disney etc.


Tick, tock, tick toc. We're nearing the end of our "bread and circuses" phase of our culture. When people have nothing to eat, they will start rebelling. You never, ever deprive somebody of the ability to eat.

/I see in Amy's future broken window, gasoline and a lighted match.
 
2013-06-30 03:07:52 PM  

PreMortem: I thought they would have packed up and moved by now. Samy must have really deep pockets


Money launderers always do.
 
2013-06-30 03:08:30 PM  

letrole: Businesses with a left-leaning ethos tend to have a dependence on cultish followings of fanboys who make purchasing decisions based on emotions. Apple, Ben and Jerry's, Starbucks. Left-leaning businesses also do better in service sectors where absolute quality is less important that perceived quality.

Businesses with a right-leaning ethos (aka 'businesses') mostly depend upon profitability in a competitive market, where purchasing decisions are made based upon value-for-money.


Oh for farks sake. Troll.
 
2013-06-30 03:26:08 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-30 03:47:54 PM  
$250 for missing a shift and paying for something that gets broken.  I don't think so.  I don't think the owners understand the risk that is just business.

The second half of rule 6 is stupid when rule 11 is enough.  However if ABC doesn't want the business of parents who may want to patronize their establishment so the parents' kid can wait on ole mom and dad, then that is ABC's loss.  My parents did that to me a few times, my boss never complained about the money.

When Kitchen Nightmares pointed out the tipping issue, I was outraged.  However if I had to choose between the $8-$12/hr solid pay compared to 2.15-4.10/hr with tips, I will go with sure money.  I guess we now know why folks keep applying there.
 
2013-06-30 03:51:18 PM  

Tom_Slick: not work for any competitor within a 50 mile radius of ABC within one year of temination or voluntary Resignation.

2 things:

Termination is spelled wrong

Arizona is a right to work state so non-compete clauses are worthless.


You know how I know you have no idea what you're talking about?

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2013-06-30 04:06:22 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: And the crazy plastic biatch is still in business why?


Because the Barbie Dream Restaurant doesnt need to make a profit... thats what surgar daddies are for.
 
2013-06-30 04:07:27 PM  
hubiestubert:

As someone who worked in many restaurants (from fast food to fine dining) while in high school and college (oh so very long ago), I love it when you show up in these threads. Always informative, never overly defensive. I appreciate your input.
 
2013-06-30 04:12:08 PM  

Endive Wombat: Most of the contract is not over the top, but the over the top ones are OVER THE FARKING TOP.

A 50 mile, 1 year non-compete to not work in another restaurant?  GTFO of here.  No way that would stand up in court

Breakage and overcooking/burning of food happens.  Short of throwing a plate against the wall, it is hard to determine what in their mind constitutes "direct negligence."  I mean, on the Kitchen Nightmares show, Amy herself purposlly made a pizza extra spicy and hoped that it would hurt the customer...Great farking example of leadership there!!

IANAL, and AFAIK, employers generally cannot hold their employees responsible for theft, breakage, or improperly prepared product.  Firing, or writing them up them is the only real action you've got.  A restaurant I worked for as a waiter would keep tabs on their employees throughout a shift on what they misordered or broke.  If it was significant - over $100 of loss to the restaurant, you were presented with 2 options - 1. lose your job...sorry your lack of attention to detail is costing us money.  Or 2. Trash audit - They gave you a dishwasher's rubber apron and rubber gloves and you had to sort through 2 bags of fresh trash from the dish pit to see if any silverware or dishes made it in the trash.  You learned your lesson to be more careful.

Not showing up to work and charging me $250?  Oh I am a slave to ABC now?  Good luck with enforcing that one!!!

Finally the tips thing may be the nail in the coffin for them so to speak.  I do not know what Arizona labor law says about it, but I know that here in Virginia, the taking of tips from employees is VERY illegal.

Hopefully the general public curiosity of the insanity that is ABC will die off soon and they will simply go away.


Not sure what a living wage is in that city, but i would much rather go to a restaurant with no tipping than what most restaurants do. To the restaurant owner: they are YOUR employees, YOU pay them It is not my responsibility to make sure your employee makes a living wage. Just jack up the prices 15 percent and take care of your people.

I make it a point to mention a good server in my reviews anyway, i am sure that goes farther for their job prospect than if i give them 15 or twenty percent. What i really farkinf dislike is having to tip bad service 10 or 15 percent because a tip is almost considered a tax these days rather than a gratuity. It is a farking scam.

That being said, if ABC is paying a living wage, what they should do instead of keeping the tips is just make the restaurant tip free and increase prices slightly. Taking a tip from a server is in poor taste.
 
2013-06-30 04:14:05 PM  

orbister: Barfmaker: Yup, bartender at my local I reckon is making almost 80k/year on 4 shifts/week, no weekends. It's all regulars and we're all older and tip outrageously well (2 bucks per pint).

$80,000 per annum at 4 shifts per week, 52 weeks per year is $384 per shift, so at $2 per pint that's 192 pints per shift. How long is a shift?


A shift is 8 hours, minimum wage is $8.90 but this is also the senior bartender, dunno the exact wage.
 
2013-06-30 04:16:17 PM  

Tom_Slick: not work for any competitor within a 50 mile radius of ABC within one year of temination or voluntary Resignation.

2 things:

Termination is spelled wrong

Arizona is a right to work state so non-compete clauses are worthless.


Non compete clauses are worthless in every state the only times they ever hold up in court is if the person has access to trade secrets or inside information that would not have been attainable in any other way. I can't think of how anyone in the service industry would qualify.
 
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