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(Eater)   The contract for employees working at Crazy Amy's Baking Company is as farked up as you would imagine   (eater.com ) divider line
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2013-06-30 11:14:48 AM  
Sounds like the place to go if you don't like to tip.
 
2013-06-30 11:20:27 AM  
I like the "no food in the kitchen" rule. Tough but fair!
 
2013-06-30 11:21:44 AM  

Dear Jerk: Sounds like the place to go if you don't like to tip.





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Agrees

 
2013-06-30 11:22:01 AM  
I don't care who's doing what to who here, these workers' tears are delicious.
www.swansonvitamins.com
 
2013-06-30 11:22:11 AM  

markfara: Any guesses on Amy's political leanings?


you don't need to guess. there's all sorts of donation records out there of her giving to a bunch of republican candidates.
 
2013-06-30 11:22:53 AM  

Maus III: 14). Respect and distance must be given to all fellow employees. No harassment or bulling of any type will be tolerated and will be cause for immediate termination.

Yeah. I'm with them on this: no bulling in the store. Feel free to bull yourself silly on your on own time.



bull/bool/

Noun
An uncastrated male bovine animal.A papal edict.Stupid or untrue talk or writing; nonsense.

Adjective
(of a part of the body, esp. the neck) Resembling the corresponding part of a male bovine animal in build and strength.

Verb
Push or drive powerfully or violently: "he bulled the motorcycle clear of the tunnel"
.

Synonyms
ox


So no powerful or violent pushing or driving of other staff. Got it.
 
2013-06-30 11:24:01 AM  
"This is a legal binding contract that both parties are fully aware of and in mutual agreement with the following....[buncha vague, unenforceable, illegal stuff and non sequiturs]..."

LEGAL DOCUMENTS DO NOT WORK THAT WAY!!!!!
 
2013-06-30 11:25:48 AM  
And no food allowed in the kitchen? Makes it kind of hard to do any cooking, eh wot?
 
2013-06-30 11:29:06 AM  
I love how they honestly think they can enforce a non-compete clause for A farkING YEAR after the employee stops working there! I can understand them not wanting employees to work for a competitor while they are still ABC employees (even though it may not be legal to enforce even that), but to think they can bar them from working in any other restaurant within 50 miles for a year is a complete joke.

I hope nobody signs their stupid contract and they go out of business. They are suffering from some pretty major delusions (well, we know that already) if they honestly believe anyone would put up with that myriad of bullshiat for $8 an hour. Even if the pay were 4 or 5 times that I would laugh in their faces if they expected me to agree to their crazy terms.

They'll probably get a few desperate/attention whoring people to sign, but I can't imagine anyone continuing to work there after the first day they miss where they're expected to fork over $250.

Would love to see a lawyer go over this contract and point out in detail just how illegal and unenforceable the majority of this stuff is.

I hope they crash and burn publicly and epically (hopefully involving an arrest for money laundering). I don't think I've ever seen a pair of people that I want to fail harder than these two assclowns.
 
2013-06-30 11:30:54 AM  
I bet gordon ramsay has sent these two insane people the biggest fruit basket or bouquet of flowers available for all the great publicity months after that kitchen nightmares aired
 
2013-06-30 11:31:06 AM  

Barfmaker: Yup, bartender at my local I reckon is making almost 80k/year on 4 shifts/week, no weekends. It's all regulars and we're all older and tip outrageously well (2 bucks per pint).


$80,000 per annum at 4 shifts per week, 52 weeks per year is $384 per shift, so at $2 per pint that's 192 pints per shift. How long is a shift?
 
2013-06-30 11:31:18 AM  

jehovahs witness protection: And the crazy plastic biatch is still in business why?


1. Rich

2. Republican
 
2013-06-30 11:32:33 AM  
I hope nobody is stupid enough to work for them or buy anything from them.

I'd be happy to hear that both of them got life sentences in FPMITA prison.
 
2013-06-30 11:36:22 AM  

Brittabot: I hope they crash and burn publicly and epically (hopefully involving an arrest for money laundering). I don't think I've ever seen a pair of people that I want to fail harder than these two assclowns.


It wouldn't be the first time either have them have been behind bars. Amy is a convicted felon (bank fraud) and Samy is banned from entering France or Germany. ICE is looking into deporting him as he didn't tell them when he applied to come to the US.
 
2013-06-30 11:36:33 AM  

Brittabot: Would love to see a lawyer go over this contract and point out in detail just how illegal and unenforceable the majority of this stuff is.


But then he would be called a "hater!!!"
 
2013-06-30 11:36:52 AM  
cR-AZy Amy strikes again. Non competition clauses don't work in right to work states. Nothing supersedes labour law in the US and in Canada. Same with stealing tips.

/class action lawsuit brewing.
 
2013-06-30 11:38:15 AM  

Endive Wombat: Brittabot: Would love to see a lawyer go over this contract and point out in detail just how illegal and unenforceable the majority of this stuff is.

But then he would be called a "hater!!!"


I believe the correct spelling is "h8er".

You're welcome.
 
2013-06-30 11:38:23 AM  
17) The recipes and techniques that have been developed by Amy at ABC are exclusive and shall remain confidential. Any removal of recipes will be considered theft.

So, if we open a can of Chef Boyardee Ravioli like she does in the back, we're in violation?
 
2013-06-30 11:38:27 AM  

BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....


You and your company is what's wrong with American employers.
 
2013-06-30 11:39:36 AM  

TV's Vinnie: 17) The recipes and techniques that have been developed by Amy at ABC are exclusive and shall remain confidential. Any removal of recipes will be considered theft.

So, if we open a can of Chef Boyardee Ravioli like she does in the back, we're in violation?


Yes. Also, you are prohibited from ordering cakes and pastries from professional bakeries.
 
2013-06-30 11:41:34 AM  

BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....


What kind of shiatty company do you work for?
 
2013-06-30 11:41:38 AM  

eiger: BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....


You and your company is what's wrong with American employers.

wwwdelivery.superstock.com

THIS!
 
2013-06-30 11:42:49 AM  

eiger: BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....

You and your company is are what's wrong with American employers.


FTFM
 
2013-06-30 11:46:24 AM  

eiger: eiger: BizarreMan: Not to white knight Crazy Amy but, many of those don't seem too outrageous.

Expecting people to be on time and ready to start working when their shift is scheduled to begin isn't unreasonable.

Telling people up front to expect to work weekends and holidays is fine too.  When we hire people where I work we tell people up front that they are not guaranteed any specific shift or any specific days.  They are expected to be able to work whatever we put them on the schedule.  Employees will agree that yes, they can work any time.  Until they get the job and the first schedule comes out, then it's I can't work that day because I have church, I can't work that day because I don't have daycare for my child.....

You and your company is are what's wrong with American employers.

FTFM


Ah, a job tyrant AND a spelling Kommandant, eh?

Noted
 
2013-06-30 11:48:07 AM  

Waldo Pepper: i will admit I wish I was in AZ just to go eat there once.


Got a thing for dead bugs in your cocktail, huh?

ts1.mm.bing.net
 
2013-06-30 11:50:23 AM  

TV's Vinnie: eiger: 

You and your company is what's wrong with American employers.


THIS!

Plug and play labor.  It's why your boss can sneer at you from his BMW as you board the bus.  See servitude.
 
2013-06-30 11:55:00 AM  
IIRC, restaurant owners can keep the tips only if they pay above the minimum wage AND post very clearly to all customers something to the effect that "Our servers do not accept tips". Owners can keep anything left anyway. ABC forgets the second half of that.
 
2013-06-30 11:55:50 AM  

bunner: TV's Vinnie: eiger:

You and your company is what's wrong with American employers.

THIS!

Plug and play labor.  It's why your boss can sneer at you from his BMW as you board the bus.  See servitude.


There's a cure for that.

affordablehousinginstitute.org
 
2013-06-30 11:57:59 AM  

Waldo Pepper: ^^^^^^I'm sure is the first too complain when a retail store is short-handed due to weather issues, prom, holidays or if a store is closed for Easter/Christmas.


A lot of stores are ALREADY short-handed because of cheapskate management. Gotta keep those CEO bonuses high every year NO! MATTER! WHAT!
 
2013-06-30 11:59:40 AM  

Waldo Pepper: TV's Vinnie: Waldo Pepper: i will admit I wish I was in AZ just to go eat there once.

Got a thing for dead bugs in your cocktail, huh?

[ts1.mm.bing.net image 224x300]

i'd only order from the bakery side lol


One can only wonder what's been crawling around inside of those outsourced things as well as they sit for days/weeks in that case.
 
2013-06-30 12:02:56 PM  

TV's Vinnie: There's a cure for that.


*flips through a book on 15th through 19th c. history.

*taps watch*

"Yeeepp, yep, yep,  yep"

*sigh*
 
2013-06-30 12:11:23 PM  
I guess I just don't understand - but most of those are pretty darn reasonable.  Also, aren't waitstaff constantly complaining about how tipping needs to be done because the law allows businesses to pay them $2-3 per hour?  Their tip policy seems great, employees know what wage they are getting.

The only issue I have are requiring people to be ready 'five minutes before'; IE - they are expecting five minutes of work for free.  The rest?  Meh - it's whatever you agree to.

I've had jobs that didn't allow visitors and jobs that restricted heavily what types of devices I could carry with me.  I've also had contracts that gave my employer ownership of *anything* I produced, even if it's on a weekend.  My current job requires me to notify someone/request permission 30 days in advance, before I'm permitted to buy or sell any sort of financial instrument.  Oh, and they can deny my request too.
 
2013-06-30 12:11:49 PM  

Waldo Pepper: ^^^^^^I'm sure is the first too complain when a retail store is short-handed due to weather issues, prom, holidays or if a store is closed for Easter/Christmas.


I worked at a very fine dining restaurant that did to go, fully prepared turkey dinners for Thanksgiving.  All the customer had to do was warm it back up, and it was delish!!!  We were closed for Thanksgiving, but open from like 7am to about 1pm.  The chef made breakfast and lunch for the staff, we were paid like $10 per hour (which really just went to our taxes)...and got to drink all the wine and beer we wanted all day long.  They only needed like 10 staff members to work this, and the 25 or so of us on staff had to fight it out so to speak on who got to work it.

So much fun!
 
2013-06-30 12:12:32 PM  

Endive Wombat: Brittabot: Would love to see a lawyer go over this contract and point out in detail just how illegal and unenforceable the majority of this stuff is.


It all depends on how enforceable the arbitration clause is.  Either I missed the ending of the arbitration exception or all of fark seemed to miss its tyranny, so I will assume it is dead (it was how hooters managed to stay in business).  Basically how it worked was that you "contract" included the waiver of all ability to sue and instead use arbitration at the company's choice of arbitrator.  Basically, you argue that you were held to an illegal contract and Amy's brother in law comes back with a legally-binding answer of "did not.  And you get to pay my legal fees.  And you pay a penalty clause.  Have a nice day".  I don't want to think how long this was legal in the US (and really suspect it still is).

[Still Endive Wombat]: Breakage and overcooking/burning of food happens.  Short of throwing a plate against the wall, it is hard to determine what in their mind constitutes "direct negligence."  I mean, on the Kitchen Nightmares show, Amy herself purposlly made a pizza extra spicy and hoped that it would hurt the customer...Great farking example of leadership there!!

Amazingly enough, that's said to be the source of Dave's Insanity Sauce (useful for adding to tabassco sauce to make it hot, the bottle suggest cleaning oil spills on driveways as well).  The inventor used this at Burrito Madness (ancient terp farkers may remember this on the route) to handle the more annoying drunks (it was right between the major bars between campus and frat row of the University of Maryland).
 
2013-06-30 12:16:00 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I guess I just don't understand - but most of those are pretty darn reasonable.  Also, aren't waitstaff constantly complaining about how tipping needs to be done because the law allows businesses to pay them $2-3 per hour?  Their tip policy seems great, employees know what wage they are getting.

The only issue I have are requiring people to be ready 'five minutes before'; IE - they are expecting five minutes of work for free.  The rest?  Meh - it's whatever you agree to.

I've had jobs that didn't allow visitors and jobs that restricted heavily what types of devices I could carry with me.  I've also had contracts that gave my employer ownership of *anything* I produced, even if it's on a weekend.  My current job requires me to notify someone/request permission 30 days in advance, before I'm permitted to buy or sell any sort of financial instrument.  Oh, and they can deny my request too.


I see where your head is at, but...

As a waiter, you need to be at the restaurant at least 15-30 min before your shift starts.  Sudden rushes happen, and grabbing an extra table or two before you are scheduled adds quite a bit to your take home pay over time.  Working in a restaurant is very dynamic.  Really, being 5 min early to your shift in my mind = 10+ min late.

All that being said, you see nothing wrong with a 50 mile, 1 year non-compete or charging their employees money for breakage or no shows?  What kind of world do you live in where that is alight?
 
2013-06-30 12:20:13 PM  

bunner: TV's Vinnie: eiger: 

You and your company is what's wrong with American employers.

THIS!

Plug and play labor.  It's why your boss can sneer at you from his BMW as you board the bus.  See servitude.


The bus?? Sorry, we had to give the Job Creators another tax cut so we defunded mass transit. The ridership was a little, how you say, 'ethnic.'
 
2013-06-30 12:20:19 PM  

bunner: TV's Vinnie: There's a cure for that.

*flips through a book on 15th through 19th c. history.

*taps watch*

"Yeeepp, yep, yep,  yep"

*sigh*


You just aren't looking in the right places, bruh.

media.heavy.com

The anger IS beginning to rise, and it's growing.
 
2013-06-30 12:27:53 PM  

orbister: Barfmaker: Yup, bartender at my local I reckon is making almost 80k/year on 4 shifts/week, no weekends. It's all regulars and we're all older and tip outrageously well (2 bucks per pint).

$80,000 per annum at 4 shifts per week, 52 weeks per year is $384 per shift, so at $2 per pint that's 192 pints per shift. How long is a shift?


~$8 - $10 an hour + 10% of Waitron's tips. 8 - 10 hour shifts
A good bartender at a Marina/ Yacht Club / Good Restaurant can make a good salary.
 
2013-06-30 12:31:53 PM  
it's NOT attitude - i'm just an intense worker

farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-06-30 12:38:48 PM  
I thought this was one of the more interesting bits:
2). No outside Food or Beverages may be brought inside ABC.

Want to pack a lunch?  NO FOOD FOR YOU!
how on earth is that rational at all?  I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.

But then crazy Amy is crazy.
 
2013-06-30 12:43:21 PM  
I first read the headline as "faked".  I am guessing that would be more accurate.
 
2013-06-30 12:48:11 PM  

The Thoroughbred of Sin: I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.


Risk of health-code violations?
Bad for the image? McDonalds would hardly be thrilled at their employees eating Burger King stuff on their premises.
 
2013-06-30 12:49:05 PM  

The Thoroughbred of Sin: I thought this was one of the more interesting bits:
2). No outside Food or Beverages may be brought inside ABC.

Want to pack a lunch?  NO FOOD FOR YOU!
how on earth is that rational at all?  I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.

But then crazy Amy is crazy.


That's made even more appallingly unfair when you realize that ABC does not give any free or even discounted food to its employees. The waitress who answered questions on Reddit awhile back said any food they wanted to eat had to be purchased at full price.

So not only are the workers paid shiattily, they now have to take cost of their own meals into account as well.

Stay classy ABC!
 
2013-06-30 12:51:22 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: The only issue I have are requiring people to be ready 'five minutes before'; IE - they are expecting five minutes of work for free.


They say you need to be ready to start working at least 5 minutes in advance. You don't actually need to start working 5 minutes in advance. That is quite a relevant difference.
 
2013-06-30 12:53:49 PM  
I wish they'd just throw these two into a cage with the Koch brothers and a few baseball nail-filled baseball bats, and tell them only one person will be let out of the cage in the end.

And then don't open the cage in the end, anyway, because the winner had "an attitude."
 
2013-06-30 12:54:24 PM  
Yes. Baseball nails. They're a special kind of nail. Shut up.
 
2013-06-30 12:54:53 PM  

TV's Vinnie: The anger IS beginning to rise, and it's growing.


Yeah, the *taps *watch* spoke more to "so, in about 5 min.?" than to "yeah, sure."
 
2013-06-30 01:00:23 PM  

LeroyBourne: I wonder (on avg) how often their bathrooms get trashed.

probably pretty often, but as usual the passive-aggressive don't think through. you the 2 jack-off owners clean it?

 
2013-06-30 01:00:37 PM  

Brittabot: The Thoroughbred of Sin: I thought this was one of the more interesting bits:
2). No outside Food or Beverages may be brought inside ABC.

Want to pack a lunch?  NO FOOD FOR YOU!
how on earth is that rational at all?  I dont see how it can have any negative impact on a business to allow employees to eat their own food.

But then crazy Amy is crazy.

That's made even more appallingly unfair when you realize that ABC does not give any free or even discounted food to its employees. The waitress who answered questions on Reddit awhile back said any food they wanted to eat had to be purchased at full price.

So not only are the workers paid shiattily, they now have to take cost of their own meals into account as well.

Stay classy ABC!


Not saying it's right, they should get a discount, but waitstaff don't, typicly, work long shifts. Eat before you go to work.
 
2013-06-30 01:02:46 PM  
Dear greedhead, yuppie, designer, money worshiping, leftover '80s, Reagan fellating, neocon, gimme gimme, oppressive twats, corporate whores, dime store thugs, billionaire sh*tstains and sock puppet politicians.

The people who put money in your pockets are really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, really, fed up with your sh*t.

No.

Really.
 
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