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(News.com.au)   Another race, another Mercedes front row. Can they convert it into a win this time? Or will Webber take one last one at Silverstone? Round 1 of the "Fark You, Seb" Farewell World Tour, 7:30 AM ET on CNBC   (news.com.au) divider line 42
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2013-06-30 10:25:09 AM
2 votes:

soj4life: Hmm, to torrent or wait a week for bbca to have it.


It won't be on BBC Canada in the next 2 weeks, so I'm not waiting around.
2013-06-30 09:23:51 AM
2 votes:

UNC_Samurai: Jensaarai: I'm aware. My point is that if there's no proper mechanism for Pirelli to work on their product mid-season using contemporary vehicles, then "it's an untested tire" becomes a bit of a silly reason to shoot down upgrades they try to roll out. (Heh.)

Charlie Whiting needs to put his foot down and say, "Next season, there WILL be mid-season testing."  If you add up all the changes taking place next year, it's going to be a potential safety issue.


Already announced earlier this week:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/06/28/fia-confirms-return-of-in-seaso n -testing-in-2014/

It's not great, but a little better than what we have now.
2013-06-30 09:21:49 AM
2 votes:

Jensaarai: I'm aware. My point is that if there's no proper mechanism for Pirelli to work on their product mid-season using contemporary vehicles, then "it's an untested tire" becomes a bit of a silly reason to shoot down upgrades they try to roll out. (Heh.)


Charlie Whiting needs to put his foot down and say, "Next season, there WILL be mid-season testing."  If you add up all the changes taking place next year, it's going to be a potential safety issue.
2013-06-30 09:16:39 AM
2 votes:
THERE IS A GOD!!!!!
2013-06-30 08:59:10 AM
2 votes:

killershark: Norfolking Chance: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

Perelli can make tyres that good.

F1 doesn't want tyres that good so Perrelli makes tyres that degrade quickly as per their contract.

Exactly. But then who is to blame -- Pirelli or F1? Or both?

Also they were talking about track changes this year -- are the kerbs new and could that be an issue?


F1 is to blame. Nothing is ever left to chance and Perrelli makes them to an exact spec. It should also be noticed that its only a couple of teams who are biatching and those are the teams who made cars that are hard on the tyres. Those teams that have made a car that is soft on its tyres don't have a problem.

If the car is eating its tyres then its a car and driver issue as every one knew what the Perrellis were like before the season started.
2013-06-30 08:49:27 AM
2 votes:

kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?


F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.
2013-06-30 07:10:04 PM
1 votes:

Norfolking Chance: cevarius: Norfolking Chance:
Gary Anderson: "We have heard a lot today about Turn 4 and we have come to have look at what could be causing these punctures. Looking at the part inside the kerb, it is green to match the grass but it is actually concrete. The cars go over the section and the sidewall of the tyre could be getting caught on a sharp part of the kerb, it is about the height we saw the tyre getting cut and coming off."

Did that particular curb (kerb) have any similar effects on the tires from this weekend's GP2/3 races? Has that curb been modified in any way since last year?

It doesn't look like it but then the tyres, pressures, driving lines and operating tempratures are not the same.

Now this news story is much more timely. At the begining of this month Perrelli wanted to change the construction of the tyres to lessen the chance of delaminations and punctures but the teams blocked it. Now we have had blow outs that could of caused big accidents.

So time and again Perrelli are trying to do a good job but F1 and the teams are stopping them. If i were Perrelli i would tell the teams and Bernie in private to STFU or they will go public with all the crap they are having the put up with and laying the blame where it should belong.


FFS it's PIRELLI
2013-06-30 09:52:19 AM
1 votes:
Top Gear UK returns this evening. Time to upgrade my utorrent.
2013-06-30 09:30:36 AM
1 votes:
Mark just passed Kimi for P2, 4 laps to go
2013-06-30 09:30:21 AM
1 votes:
Eliminate Vettel, Webber comes alive.
2013-06-30 09:30:20 AM
1 votes:
Mark Webber all of a sudden woke up now that Vettel is out.
2013-06-30 09:29:06 AM
1 votes:
Sergio Perez is out.
2013-06-30 09:28:52 AM
1 votes:
OK, that's enough. Just throw the red flag and pack it up.
2013-06-30 09:27:49 AM
1 votes:
♪♫ Tire says, I'm done with Sergio-o-o-o ♪♫
2013-06-30 09:26:57 AM
1 votes:

kidgenius: UNC_Samurai: Jensaarai: I'm aware. My point is that if there's no proper mechanism for Pirelli to work on their product mid-season using contemporary vehicles, then "it's an untested tire" becomes a bit of a silly reason to shoot down upgrades they try to roll out. (Heh.)

Charlie Whiting needs to put his foot down and say, "Next season, there WILL be mid-season testing."  If you add up all the changes taking place next year, it's going to be a potential safety issue.

Already announced earlier this week:
http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2013/06/28/fia-confirms-return-of-in-seaso n -testing-in-2014/

It's not great, but a little better than what we have now.


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2013-06-30 09:25:34 AM
1 votes:
SC in
2013-06-30 09:24:18 AM
1 votes:
Since this race is on CNBC, I'm surprised they haven't had a real-time ticker of Pirelli's stock prices.
2013-06-30 09:22:30 AM
1 votes:

Norfolking Chance: killershark: digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.

Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)

If only the Germans had a word about taking joy in the misfortune of others


Ha!
2013-06-30 09:22:13 AM
1 votes:

killershark: digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.

Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)


A little schadenfraude for the German? Nothing wrong with that at all.
2013-06-30 09:21:58 AM
1 votes:
Seb was just doing a mid-race tribute to Mark Webber's starts.
2013-06-30 09:21:35 AM
1 votes:

killershark: digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.

Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)


If only the Germans had a word about taking joy in the misfortune of others
2013-06-30 09:20:28 AM
1 votes:

killershark: digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.

Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)


Far from it.
2013-06-30 09:19:46 AM
1 votes:
So now what will go wrong with Rosberg's car?
2013-06-30 09:19:45 AM
1 votes:

King Something: Jensaarai: soj4life: Jensaarai: So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.

More it was Pirelli putting an untested tire onto the whole field and seeing what happens.  What this past decade shows is that going the cheap route so that you end up with teams like HRT, Virgin/Marussia, Team Lotus/Caterham  is not good for the sport.  If the field has only 16 cars, but they can all compete, that is better than 22 cars with some only ably to keep with the pack.

But we saw what happens when they try to test potential compounds with a contemporary car. Everyone else shiats themselves with rage.

That's because of the rules regarding in-season testing. Teams are not allowed to test the current year's or previous year's car from ten days before the first race of the year to 31 Dec of the same year, but testing year-before-last's car and older cars is permitted. That's why Ferrari and Red Bull were unhappy with Mercedes' test.

/Mercedes' "punishment" was exclusion from this year's Young Driver Test


I'm aware. My point is that if there's no proper mechanism for Pirelli to work on their product mid-season using contemporary vehicles, then "it's an untested tire" becomes a bit of a silly reason to shoot down upgrades they try to roll out. (Heh.)
2013-06-30 09:18:40 AM
1 votes:

killershark: digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.

Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)


No, not at all.
2013-06-30 09:18:20 AM
1 votes:
Vettel out, and the crowd goes wild.
2013-06-30 09:17:28 AM
1 votes:

kidgenius: Wonder if Bernie is on the horn to the camera truck to not show any more film of tire failures.


It is starting to seem that way when they are delaying showing what is causing the yellow flags.
2013-06-30 09:17:15 AM
1 votes:
Seb just lost his gearbox on the grid; safety car out.
2013-06-30 09:17:13 AM
1 votes:
Oh boy, transmission failure?
2013-06-30 09:17:07 AM
1 votes:

digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.


Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)
2013-06-30 09:16:35 AM
1 votes:
And the crowd goes wild.
2013-06-30 09:16:35 AM
1 votes:
Something broke on Vettel's car!!!
2013-06-30 09:16:34 AM
1 votes:
Doh
2013-06-30 09:16:27 AM
1 votes:
HAHAHAHA.
2013-06-30 09:03:28 AM
1 votes:

Jensaarai: So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.


More it was Pirelli putting an untested tire onto the whole field and seeing what happens.  What this past decade shows is that going the cheap route so that you end up with teams like HRT, Virgin/Marussia, Team Lotus/Caterham  is not good for the sport.  If the field has only 16 cars, but they can all compete, that is better than 22 cars with some only ably to keep with the pack.
2013-06-30 08:56:35 AM
1 votes:

digistil: Jensaarai: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.

And other tire manufacturers are using it to destroy Pirelli's reputation with the public. I wouldn't be surprised if Pirelli say "Fark it all" and Bernie struggles to find a replacement without the requirement that the tires be made out of pure feces.


If I didn't know better (and I do), I would be someone watching these F1 races and saying "I don't want Pirelli's on my car".

Obviously, Pirelli makes world-class tires. I believe Ferrari's are shod with them from the factory.

Pirelli should just get out. Let F1 have no reputable tire supplier, except for some no-name China tire that is willing to take a gamble. Bridgestone, Michelin, etc., should be looking at F1 and saying DO NOT WANT!
2013-06-30 08:56:01 AM
1 votes:
Gutierrez's car exploded?
2013-06-30 08:54:58 AM
1 votes:

digistil: Jensaarai: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.

And other tire manufacturers are using it to destroy Pirelli's reputation with the public. I wouldn't be surprised if Pirelli say "Fark it all" and Bernie struggles to find a replacement without while keeping the requirement that the tires be made out of pure feces.


FTFM
2013-06-30 08:53:58 AM
1 votes:

Jensaarai: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.


And other tire manufacturers are using it to destroy Pirelli's reputation with the public. I wouldn't be surprised if Pirelli say "Fark it all" and Bernie struggles to find a replacement without the requirement that the tires be made out of pure feces.
2013-06-30 08:50:12 AM
1 votes:

kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?


Perelli can make tyres that good.

F1 doesn't want tyres that good so Perrelli makes tyres that degrade quickly as per their contract.
2013-06-30 08:49:24 AM
1 votes:

killershark: This reminds me of one of my favorite father-daughter bonding moments with my dad as we chanted "Bullshiat" together at the USGP with six cars racing. What a mess.

And if it is debris, do they have a jet dryer to clean the track?


If so...good thing Montoya left F1 a long time ago....
2013-06-30 08:42:47 AM
1 votes:
So the odds of Perelli just saying fark it and leaving at the end of this year has just gone up.

It will be funny hearing the crowd reaction to Vettel and Rosberg
 
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