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(News.com.au)   Another race, another Mercedes front row. Can they convert it into a win this time? Or will Webber take one last one at Silverstone? Round 1 of the "Fark You, Seb" Farewell World Tour, 7:30 AM ET on CNBC   (news.com.au) divider line 111
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2013-06-30 08:03:24 AM
Let's go Vettel - Keep up the winning ways and don't let it end like last year (my heart can't take another one of those).
 
2013-06-30 08:20:12 AM
Looking like tiregate. *crosses fingers for Vettel*
 
2013-06-30 08:20:14 AM
Watch out for those left-rears.
 
2013-06-30 08:27:37 AM
4 tires. wtf is going on?
 
2013-06-30 08:30:26 AM
Wow - this may be one where Pastor or Hulk end up on the podium just from attrition.
 
2013-06-30 08:42:47 AM
So the odds of Perelli just saying fark it and leaving at the end of this year has just gone up.

It will be funny hearing the crowd reaction to Vettel and Rosberg
 
2013-06-30 08:43:35 AM
@nascarcasm
Not a big deal, F1 - just throw a caution every 3 laps so they can change tyres. NASCAR did it at IMS a few years back. Fans LOVED it.
 
2013-06-30 08:44:54 AM
Will mean that even if someone checks out - they aren't gone as they may be, gone.
 
2013-06-30 08:47:31 AM
So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.
 
2013-06-30 08:47:52 AM
Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?
 
2013-06-30 08:47:53 AM
This reminds me of one of my favorite father-daughter bonding moments with my dad as we chanted "Bullshiat" together at the USGP with six cars racing. What a mess.

And if it is debris, do they have a jet dryer to clean the track?
 
2013-06-30 08:49:08 AM
So if we can get Pirelli removed as the tire supplier, can we also get rid of those shiatty fiat commercials?  Or is this Italy's revenge to the world for having Jersey Shore visit for a season.
 
2013-06-30 08:49:24 AM

killershark: This reminds me of one of my favorite father-daughter bonding moments with my dad as we chanted "Bullshiat" together at the USGP with six cars racing. What a mess.

And if it is debris, do they have a jet dryer to clean the track?


If so...good thing Montoya left F1 a long time ago....
 
2013-06-30 08:49:27 AM

kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?


F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.
 
2013-06-30 08:50:12 AM

kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?


Perelli can make tyres that good.

F1 doesn't want tyres that good so Perrelli makes tyres that degrade quickly as per their contract.
 
2013-06-30 08:52:34 AM
It turns out Bernie is a massive investor in every tire manufacturer not named "Pirelli."
 
2013-06-30 08:53:07 AM

killershark: And if it is debris, do they have a jet dryer to clean the track?


BBC metioned they had "the sweeper" on track while the safety car was out, but all I saw on TV was men with brooms.
 
2013-06-30 08:53:56 AM

Norfolking Chance: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

Perelli can make tyres that good.

F1 doesn't want tyres that good so Perrelli makes tyres that degrade quickly as per their contract.


Exactly. But then who is to blame -- Pirelli or F1? Or both?

Also they were talking about track changes this year -- are the kerbs new and could that be an issue?
 
2013-06-30 08:53:58 AM

Jensaarai: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.


And other tire manufacturers are using it to destroy Pirelli's reputation with the public. I wouldn't be surprised if Pirelli say "Fark it all" and Bernie struggles to find a replacement without the requirement that the tires be made out of pure feces.
 
2013-06-30 08:54:32 AM
Here's the thing.

Hankook and Bridgestone want nothing to do with F1.

Michelin said in 2010-11 they would be willing to come back if they weren't the sole tire provider.

That leaves who, Goodyear?  Cooper?

The best thing they can do for next year is apologize to Pirelli and get them and Michelin to both provide tires.
 
2013-06-30 08:54:58 AM

digistil: Jensaarai: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.

And other tire manufacturers are using it to destroy Pirelli's reputation with the public. I wouldn't be surprised if Pirelli say "Fark it all" and Bernie struggles to find a replacement without while keeping the requirement that the tires be made out of pure feces.


FTFM
 
2013-06-30 08:55:09 AM

good_2_go: all I saw on TV was men with brooms.


RIP Leslie Nielsen
 
2013-06-30 08:56:01 AM
Gutierrez's car exploded?
 
2013-06-30 08:56:35 AM

digistil: Jensaarai: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

F1 specifically requested tires that would degrade to help competition. They got what they asked for.

And other tire manufacturers are using it to destroy Pirelli's reputation with the public. I wouldn't be surprised if Pirelli say "Fark it all" and Bernie struggles to find a replacement without the requirement that the tires be made out of pure feces.


If I didn't know better (and I do), I would be someone watching these F1 races and saying "I don't want Pirelli's on my car".

Obviously, Pirelli makes world-class tires. I believe Ferrari's are shod with them from the factory.

Pirelli should just get out. Let F1 have no reputable tire supplier, except for some no-name China tire that is willing to take a gamble. Bridgestone, Michelin, etc., should be looking at F1 and saying DO NOT WANT!
 
2013-06-30 08:57:25 AM
Are we now at five different drivers with tire failures this weekend?
 
2013-06-30 08:57:34 AM
This week ought to be interesting, given that there's no break between now and the German GP.
 
2013-06-30 08:58:54 AM
Wonder if Bernie is on the horn to the camera truck to not show any more film of tire failures.
 
2013-06-30 08:59:10 AM

killershark: Norfolking Chance: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

Perelli can make tyres that good.

F1 doesn't want tyres that good so Perrelli makes tyres that degrade quickly as per their contract.

Exactly. But then who is to blame -- Pirelli or F1? Or both?

Also they were talking about track changes this year -- are the kerbs new and could that be an issue?


F1 is to blame. Nothing is ever left to chance and Perrelli makes them to an exact spec. It should also be noticed that its only a couple of teams who are biatching and those are the teams who made cars that are hard on the tyres. Those teams that have made a car that is soft on its tyres don't have a problem.

If the car is eating its tyres then its a car and driver issue as every one knew what the Perrellis were like before the season started.
 
2013-06-30 09:00:29 AM

Norfolking Chance: killershark: Norfolking Chance: kidgenius: Here's what I don't understand....

These companies have been making racing tires for DECADES.  How is it so impossible to have a tire that allows drivers to drive flat-out for 20-25 laps and not get explode-y?

Perelli can make tyres that good.

F1 doesn't want tyres that good so Perrelli makes tyres that degrade quickly as per their contract.

Exactly. But then who is to blame -- Pirelli or F1? Or both?

Also they were talking about track changes this year -- are the kerbs new and could that be an issue?

F1 is to blame. Nothing is ever left to chance and Perrelli makes them to an exact spec. It should also be noticed that its only a couple of teams who are biatching and those are the teams who made cars that are hard on the tyres. Those teams that have made a car that is soft on its tyres don't have a problem.

If the car is eating its tyres then its a car and driver issue as every one knew what the Perrellis were like before the season started.


Ferrari and STR are hard on their tires??
 
2013-06-30 09:02:28 AM

Norfolking Chance: F1 is to blame. Nothing is ever left to chance and Perrelli makes them to an exact spec. It should also be noticed that its only a couple of teams who are biatching and those are the teams who made cars that are hard on the tyres. Those teams that have made a car that is soft on its tyres don't have a problem.


Bernie went to Pirelli and said, "I want tires that give us races like Canada 2011" - but that race was in the wet.

And yes, the teams that were biatching about the original tire choice were primarily Red Bull and Lotus (and to a lesser extent, Force India).
 
2013-06-30 09:03:28 AM

Jensaarai: So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.


More it was Pirelli putting an untested tire onto the whole field and seeing what happens.  What this past decade shows is that going the cheap route so that you end up with teams like HRT, Virgin/Marussia, Team Lotus/Caterham  is not good for the sport.  If the field has only 16 cars, but they can all compete, that is better than 22 cars with some only ably to keep with the pack.
 
2013-06-30 09:06:37 AM

soj4life: Jensaarai: So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.

More it was Pirelli putting an untested tire onto the whole field and seeing what happens.


But how is Pirelli supposed to test a tire properly?

The best they had was a 3-year old lotus. They tried to get help from other teams, but no one wanted to spend the time, cash, and/or resources to help out. Ferrari helped a little, but it was with a 3yo car too. Mercedes tried to help, and everyone got dragged in front of a tribunal.

Pirelli can't win. It's bad for their image. They need to get out of F1 and put out some more calendars.
 
2013-06-30 09:08:36 AM

soj4life: Jensaarai: So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.

More it was Pirelli putting an untested tire onto the whole field and seeing what happens.  What this past decade shows is that going the cheap route so that you end up with teams like HRT, Virgin/Marussia, Team Lotus/Caterham  is not good for the sport.  If the field has only 16 cars, but they can all compete, that is better than 22 cars with some only ably to keep with the pack.


But we saw what happens when they try to test potential compounds with a contemporary car. Everyone else shiats themselves with rage.
 
2013-06-30 09:09:19 AM

kidgenius: Pirelli can't win.


Pretty much this.
 
2013-06-30 09:09:35 AM
Vergne is out. First retirement of the day; he is not one of the guys who had tires made of explodium.
 
2013-06-30 09:11:27 AM
nascarcasm @nascarcasm

Hint - if you switch your IPhone settings from "#NASCAR" to "#F1," it convenietly autocorrects "tire" to "tyre."
 
2013-06-30 09:12:29 AM

King Something: Vergne is out. First retirement of the day; he is not one of the guys who had tires made of explodium.


Sky is saying he was one of the 3.
 
2013-06-30 09:15:20 AM

Jensaarai: soj4life: Jensaarai: So Pirelli wanted to bring a different tire. Teams throw a massive tantrum. And now it's just going to be endless whining.

If I were Pirelli, I'd tell F1 to go fark themselves ASAP.

More it was Pirelli putting an untested tire onto the whole field and seeing what happens.  What this past decade shows is that going the cheap route so that you end up with teams like HRT, Virgin/Marussia, Team Lotus/Caterham  is not good for the sport.  If the field has only 16 cars, but they can all compete, that is better than 22 cars with some only ably to keep with the pack.

But we saw what happens when they try to test potential compounds with a contemporary car. Everyone else shiats themselves with rage.


That's because of the rules regarding in-season testing. Teams are not allowed to test the current year's or previous year's car from ten days before the first race of the year to 31 Dec of the same year, but testing year-before-last's car and older cars is permitted. That's why Ferrari and Red Bull were unhappy with Mercedes' test.

/Mercedes' "punishment" was exclusion from this year's Young Driver Test
 
2013-06-30 09:16:20 AM
Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.
 
2013-06-30 09:16:27 AM
HAHAHAHA.
 
2013-06-30 09:16:34 AM
Doh
 
2013-06-30 09:16:35 AM
Something broke on Vettel's car!!!
 
2013-06-30 09:16:35 AM
And the crowd goes wild.
 
2013-06-30 09:16:39 AM
THERE IS A GOD!!!!!
 
2013-06-30 09:17:07 AM

digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.


Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)
 
2013-06-30 09:17:13 AM
Oh boy, transmission failure?
 
2013-06-30 09:17:15 AM
Seb just lost his gearbox on the grid; safety car out.
 
2013-06-30 09:17:28 AM

kidgenius: Wonder if Bernie is on the horn to the camera truck to not show any more film of tire failures.


It is starting to seem that way when they are delaying showing what is causing the yellow flags.
 
2013-06-30 09:18:20 AM
Vettel out, and the crowd goes wild.
 
2013-06-30 09:18:40 AM

killershark: digistil: Vettel's out and the crowd goes wild.

Is it wrong that I enjoyed that crowd reaction? :-)


No, not at all.
 
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