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(Medford Mail Tribune)   Attention fireworks enthusiasts: There's a very good reason why mortars are launched from tubes and have extra long wicks. So if one doesn't fire, taking it out of the tube and lighting the 1/4" of remaining wick is not advisable   (mailtribune.com) divider line 146
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2013-06-30 03:50:31 PM  

Berz: Consumer fireworks that explode, fly into the air, travel more than 6 feet horizontally or travel more than 12 inches vertically from the ignition point are illegal under Oregon law.


I've found that cops in Oregon have the best fireworks at their homes.
 
2013-06-30 03:50:48 PM  
A buddy of mine does his own fireworks show every year, they get a shiat ton of mortars and shoot them off using this homemade PVC stand.

Once a couple years ago they set up the grand finale of like 40 mortars, and right when they lit it, the PVC stand tipped over toward everyone in the yard, and a few seconds later it was like a war zone, smoke, explosions, people running and screaming and flipping over tables to hide behind. Someone every stepped on a water valve and it flooded the yard. Crazy night.
 
2013-06-30 03:53:02 PM  
ruta

I saw it again recently in a safety talk about pyrotechnic fx, together with photos of a hand that was essentially skeletonized by a firework (it seems like "completely blown off" might be preferable) and somebody's butt after a firework went off in it (crater where buttocks used to be). Those were pretty disturbing but Sad Faceless Man will always be the worst.

In the age-old battle between fireworks and butts, the fireworks always win.  (nsfw)
 
2013-06-30 03:53:13 PM  
After about two hours of drinking with the others, he came back out and lit the removed shell, resulting in the explosion.

Awesome.
 
2013-06-30 04:00:09 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: I always put on a great display with about 600 Mortars (I take the time to actually make them mesh when they explode and try to time them... fuses make it tricky to be 'professional')


I got lucky one year and found a local store that carried the yellow cannon fuse (basically a ridiculously quick burning kind of the standard green kind ). It made chaining mortars and cakes together a LOT easier.

I'd imagine if you got a quantity of that stuff and jerry rigged it to an e-match system, you could set up a hell of a show.
 
2013-06-30 04:03:26 PM  

ruta: studebaker hoch: Man, I saw a picture of some guy who had an explosive of some kind go off in his mouth.

I'm not going to GIS for "explosive mouth injury", but you can.

/ you'll know the pic when you find it.

Unfortunately I've seen it thanks to clicking on a link here at Fark, I believe. I will never ever unsee it. It's maybe the most disturbing image I've ever seen on the internet. It wouldn't bee so bad if he was dead, but you can see in his eyes that he's alive.

I saw it again recently in a safety talk about pyrotechnic fx, together with photos of a hand that was essentially skeletonized by a firework (it seems like "completely blown off" might be preferable) and somebody's butt after a firework went off in it (crater where buttocks used to be). Those were pretty disturbing but Sad Faceless Man will always be the worst.


I couldn't resist, and now I am positively filled with regret. Several men, a few children (worst thing I've ever seen), and some dogs all 'splodey faced. I think I'm going to get drunk now (no fireworks involved).
 
2013-06-30 04:09:45 PM  

muck4doo: BigNumber12: Rapmaster2000: I used to blow all my money on fireworks when I was a kid.  Do they still sell fireworks to children?  That seems like a bad idea in retrospect, but then I never did blow my hand off.

Yep. Funny how very many of us came through childhood completely unscathed.

But no, it's the fireworks that are the problem.

Would save my allowance as well for 4th of July. Later I had to spend it in summer trips to McAllen and Reynosa to get the good stuff .
>:(


Acquiring and setting off various fireworks/firecrackers was a rite of passage growing up for me that I will always remember fondly. It is a little sad that kids today don't have that. That noted I mostly agree with the new safety rules and regs because even with them in place this same stupid shiat still happens. Every farking year.

TL,DR? Fireworks rawk. Stupid people suck.
 
2013-06-30 04:10:53 PM  
My cousin had one go off in his hand. our tube broke so we were throwing them like grenades. He had a really bad blister and I laughed at him.

I used to sell fireworks with some friends in high school and we would take any surplus fireworks -there were always surplus fireworks ;) and put them all in a box, pour some gasoline on it, and toss a matchbook in then run. Was great fun and no one ever got hurt.
 
2013-06-30 04:14:31 PM  

quatchi: muck4doo: BigNumber12: Rapmaster2000: I used to blow all my money on fireworks when I was a kid.  Do they still sell fireworks to children?  That seems like a bad idea in retrospect, but then I never did blow my hand off.

Yep. Funny how very many of us came through childhood completely unscathed.

But no, it's the fireworks that are the problem.

Would save my allowance as well for 4th of July. Later I had to spend it in summer trips to McAllen and Reynosa to get the good stuff .
>:(

Acquiring and setting off various fireworks/firecrackers was a rite of passage growing up for me that I will always remember fondly. It is a little sad that kids today don't have that. That noted I mostly agree with the new safety rules and regs because even with them in place this same stupid shiat still happens. Every farking year.

TL,DR? Fireworks rawk. Stupid people suck.


In high school we would go get fireworks and then go to a local park to have bottle rocket and Roman candle wars. The worst thing that ever happened was one of my friends lips getting burned by a Roman candle, and another friend of mine having his groin singed by a bottle rocket.
 
2013-06-30 04:18:36 PM  
Estes model rocket igniters work well for mortars.
Also, don't let stupid people load the shell upside down! I'm glad it was not in just a cardboard tube...
 
2013-06-30 04:27:14 PM  
Googled that Duzac guy who blew off his hand last year with fireworks.

Seems to be doing OK.

img41.imageshack.us
 
2013-06-30 04:34:40 PM  

big_hed: Googled that Duzac guy who blew off his hand last year with fireworks.

Seems to be doing OK.

[img41.imageshack.us image 600x800]


Awwww.... he killed a baby.  Guess it could be a full sized deer in Mississippi.  :/
 
2013-06-30 04:35:52 PM  
I live in rural michigan. We light mortars and throw them over the fence into the cornfield. A lot more interesting than using a tube.
 
2013-06-30 04:42:30 PM  
I DESPISE fireworks (yeah, I'm unpatriotic) but I have a good reason.

20 years ago, I was at a county display, rules were somewhat lax back then and I was permitted in the infield where the shells were being set off. Shell detonated right at the top of the tube and blew back where I was. Spent a week in the hospital and had to have multiple surgeries. Will still have to have corrective surgeries in the future for my hand, did a lot of damage to my fingers (I put my hand up to protect my face, that and the fact I had sunglasses on saved my sight) so the scar tissue causes my fingers to curl and they have to go in and release it. I was lucky though, I lived (obviously). The following year, same company that provided the shells at our display did a show and it ended up killing 2 people in the crowd with the same type of accident.

Yeah, they're no longer in business...
 
2013-06-30 04:42:40 PM  
Don't GIS "fireworks accident".

I sure wish I hadn't.
 
2013-06-30 04:47:08 PM  

RentalMetard: I finally landed the ER nightshift on the fourth of July this year.  Needless to say, I'm pretty excited.  Yinzers are already kinda dumb as a rule, but when you add the WV hill people into the mix, there are usually a handful of solid drinking- and firework-related incidents every year.


I worked Atlanta's Grady Memorial one 4th of July weekend, up in Surgery. It was a non-stop bloodbath of shootings, stabbings, burn cases, wrecks and general mayhem the likes of which I imagined a MASH unit near the front would go through but with reliable air conditioning.

But that was nothing compared to being on duty that one time on a full moon weekend when welfare checks came out at the same time.
 
2013-06-30 04:51:48 PM  

studebaker hoch:

In the age-old battle between fireworks and butts, the fireworks always win.  (nsfw)

I'm not clicking that. That's how I saw Faceless Dude in the first place. I'm much wiser now.

Mellotiger: studebaker hoch: Man, I saw a picture of some guy who had an explosive of some kind go off in his mouth.

I'm not going to GIS for "explosive mouth injury", but you can.
...

I couldn't resist, and now I am positively filled with regret. Several men, a few children (worst thing I've ever seen), and some dogs all 'splodey faced. I think I'm going to get drunk now (no fireworks involved).


Psycoholic_Slag: Don't GIS "fireworks accident".

I sure wish I hadn't.


Yeesh, it's like telling kids not to touch the hot stove.

I'm glad I haven't seen the children and dogs. At least dogs can get a nice bolus of pentobarbital.
 
2013-06-30 04:52:10 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: bottle rocket and Roman candle wars.


Dear gawd, that takes me back.

We used to do this thing where we would have Roman Candle wars and individual duel mostly w/ BRss.

Usually on the railroad tracks. Back to back then take 10 steps, turn and fire at the other guy.

You couldn't light the BR till the 9th step was the rule.

More of a guideline really.

Then we'd build a big bonfire thingy on a beach off the beaten path douse it with gas countdown from 10 and then at 1 light up the Roman Candles and use them to light the bonfire.

/Ah the halcyon daze of my yout.
//Good times. Good times.
///Pretty sure you'd get arrested in short order if you'd tried that hereabouts nowadays.
 
2013-06-30 05:02:24 PM  
I suspect that CO authorities will be taking a reeeeeeeeally dim view of amateur use of fireworks this year.
 
2013-06-30 05:05:07 PM  
Nanny United States, banning fireworks for private citizens.
 
2013-06-30 05:10:51 PM  
Something we did many years ago that was very popular with onlookers...

Bundle 1000-1500 sparklers as tightly as you can with the business ends all pointing in the same direction (use some bailing wire to hold the bundle together).  Jam another sparkler part-way into the center or the bundle to serve as a fuse.  Wedge the bundle between a pair of bricks or concrete blocks.   Light the fuse and stand back.  This will generate a 20-30-ft pillar of flames and sparks that put normal fountains to shame.  It'll melt pavement and nearby empty beer bottles.  I often wondered what the recycle collection folks thought when they came across our deformed bottles later that week...
 
2013-06-30 05:12:04 PM  

studebaker hoch: ruta

I saw it again recently in a safety talk about pyrotechnic fx, together with photos of a hand that was essentially skeletonized by a firework (it seems like "completely blown off" might be preferable) and somebody's butt after a firework went off in it (crater where buttocks used to be). Those were pretty disturbing but Sad Faceless Man will always be the worst.

In the age-old battle between fireworks and butts, the fireworks always win.  (nsfw)


I ain't clicking that.
 
2013-06-30 05:14:44 PM  

Tr0mBoNe: /pop pop


www.11points.com
 
2013-06-30 05:30:28 PM  

HST's Dead Carcass: I am in charge of the Brother In law's fireworks show ...

and everyone enjoys the display

My neighbors pull similar shenanigans every year - one-upping each other to have the best display in the neighborhood instead of going to watch the professional display the community puts on for 'free'.

My dog hates both groups, but at least the city's display is of professional quality with a qualified operator and real safety measures instead of a mishmash of punk consumer grade crap with chalk lines protecting the audience.  And unlike the neighborhood derps, they only put it on ONE EFFING DAY of the year instead of making it a month-long event.
 
2013-06-30 05:39:03 PM  

Endive Wombat: So when do the yearly 4th of July and back yard grilling safety tips news reports start?


Bleh. My favorite days to read the news (schadenfreude!) are the days after Thanksgiving and US Independence Day.
 
2013-06-30 05:50:39 PM  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRItYDKSqpQ  -- NSFW-language.

Bootleg fireworks with a 'Jesus' counter!!
 
2013-06-30 05:53:07 PM  

Pert: Nanny United States, banning fireworks for private citizens.


Not everyone. I use them on 4th to keep birds away from my corn fields.
 
2013-06-30 06:01:09 PM  
It's not a wick.
Wicks are found in candles.
It's a fuse
Or if you prefer, quickmatch.
Repeat after me: "It's not a wick."

/we now return you to your regular thread, already in progress
 
2013-06-30 06:03:59 PM  

Wrencher: Estes model rocket igniters work well for mortars.
Also, don't let stupid people load the shell upside down! I'm glad it was not in just a cardboard tube...


we used to light the Estes engines alone no rocket attached. Good times dodging those things.
 
2013-06-30 06:08:59 PM  

Deep Contact: I say screw the fireworks this year. At 10pm everyone get there gun out and shoot it in the air.
Of course, use a blank.


Welcome to south end Louisville- blanks be damned.
 
2013-06-30 06:20:36 PM  
You know, this could've happened to any one of us after a fun night filled with fireworks and drinking, so waddya say...can we give him a hand with his fine?
 
2013-06-30 06:21:20 PM  
i189.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-30 06:23:20 PM  
big pig peaches and ruta:  The rocket vs butt video is harmless.  (butt gets scorched, nothing more.  Well almost nothing)
 
2013-06-30 06:24:14 PM  
What hand would you have if you had to have a hand replacement?

www.rethinkingourstory.com
 
2013-06-30 06:24:20 PM  
Video is nsfw because of visible butt.
 
2013-06-30 06:39:31 PM  

clowncar on fire: Deep Contact: I say screw the fireworks this year. At 10pm everyone get there gun out and shoot it in the air.
Of course, use a blank.

Welcome to south end Louisville- blanks be damned.


I've dug a shotgun slug and 2 .45 slugs out of my roof in the last couple of years. Makes wish I could leave all 3 layers of shingles there when I re-shingle.
 
2013-06-30 06:49:23 PM  

studebaker hoch: big pig peaches and ruta:  The rocket vs butt video is harmless.  (butt gets scorched, nothing more.  Well almost nothing)


Taint blisters.

Sounds almost as bad as 'dick stitches'.
 
2013-06-30 06:58:11 PM  
We'd sit out on the canal "seawall" behind our house and I'd take the mortars and light them, pause for a moment, then hurl them out into the water.

Stupid and dangerous, yes.  But the sound of a mortar going off in the water is damn impressive.

I'd also launch bottle rockets out of my hand, but only while wearing full turnout gear and helment/faceshield.
 
2013-06-30 07:02:06 PM  

Fubegra: I guess he'll be known as "Lefty" now.

He's lucky he didn't try to relight a misfired mortar while looking down the tube. That actually happened a few years ago in the Chicago area, and the genius who tried it wound up a head shorter for his trouble.


I've seen this happen in person. Drunk guy drops the round in. It doesn't go off. He looks over the tube and it fires out hitting him in the face. It ends up on the ground when it explodes. I got hit by shrapnel and ended up with a half dollar size bruise and burn on my stomach. His face around his jaw was basically torn off but he survived. Ncsb.
 
2013-06-30 08:42:08 PM  

BigNumber12: FormlessOne: badhatharry: Mortars are serious business. This doesn't make sense to people today since you don't need a background check to buy it. Don't fark around with them. Make sure you use them correctly and place them on a firm level base. I have seen one fall over and bombard the crowd. It was like a Vietnam movie with explosions and people diving for cover.

I love watching stupid people injure themselves, however. Between my neighborhood and the Internet, it's practically a hobby.

And this time of year is holiday season for my hobby. There's nothing like the rash of injuries that occur in the Puget Sound area this time of year. I wish we had holiday carols for the "Exploding Idjits Day" weekend.


The downside is, we're all probably chipping in for their medical bills, disability pay, etc. Schadenfreude can be an expensive hobby in modern society.


If we had single payer healthcare, I'd be OK with that - heck, it'd encourage more folks to do stupid things, because, hey, they won't go broke when they blow off a limb.

More blood for the blood god.
 
2013-06-30 08:56:12 PM  
My oldest brother has a big burn scar on his leg where a roman candle he was holding blew out the bottom & scorched him. Another friend of mine lit a roman candle he bought {I think a 10 ball} where it went off all at once. The candle as about 2 inches long & looked like one of then cigars that blows up in a cartoon. Never hold one of them things again.
 
2013-06-30 09:21:08 PM  

studebaker hoch: dittybopper

I don't use a fuse with my mortar, I use a linstock:

Are we ever going to get to see video of that thing in action?


Hopefully.  I've got this week off, maybe I'll get a chance to fire it, if the weather holds out.  It's supposed to rain most of the week.
 
2013-06-30 09:38:49 PM  
Cosmo. He's chinese.
 
2013-06-30 10:37:44 PM  
There is a video out there somewhere of guys doing this same thing. They have a mortar and are standing over it and cupping their hands around to reduce the wind so they can light it with a bic. Then BOOM! No loss of limb. Anyone have a link?
 
2013-06-30 11:27:30 PM  

Igor Jakovsky: I've seen this happen in person. Drunk guy drops the round in. It doesn't go off. He looks over the tube and it fires out hitting him in the face. It ends up on the ground when it explodes. I got hit by shrapnel and ended up with a half dollar size bruise and burn on my stomach. His face around his jaw was basically torn off but he survived. Ncsb.


The last time I heard of a moron looking down the tube he was decapitated.
 
2013-07-01 08:38:29 PM  
A few years ago, a female somehow got a 1.3G cake and tried to light it by hand.

Boink!  headshot.  (lesson - quickmatch is faster than you are)
 

Nobody could get near her until the cake stopped firing.

It was a bad way to go, but quite festive.
 
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