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(Deadline)   If you thought James Cameron's Avatar looks like a Yes album cover, so does the guy who designed them   (deadline.com ) divider line
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2013-06-29 08:48:04 PM  
Most Yes albums aren't very good so who cares?
 
2013-06-29 08:59:18 PM  
So is the owner of a broken copyright better than the owner of a lonely heart?
 
2013-06-29 09:00:52 PM  
I'm not seeing it. Yes they are both lush, arboreal, and alien. But not that similar otherwise.

There were no native buildings on Pandora.
 
2013-06-29 09:01:41 PM  

Bucky Katt: Most Yes albums aren't very good so who cares?


5/16.

/followed by 4/4, 7/8, 13/16, 6/8, then nine minutes of Rick Wakeman noodling.
 
2013-06-29 09:08:39 PM  
Harlan Ellison successfully sued Cameron over The Terminator, The Abyss is a water-based The Day the Earth Stood Still, there's like a dozen movies Avatar ripped off. Caddyshack 2 had  a better written "evil rich fiance" story. The guy can shoot a film but doesn't have an original thought in his head.
 
2013-06-29 09:23:15 PM  
I wouldn't find in their favor, and I'm old enough to have a few of those albums.

/not seeing it
 
2013-06-29 10:03:00 PM  
silly human race.
 
2013-06-29 10:03:34 PM  
Patrick Woodroffe unavailable for comment?
 
2013-06-29 10:28:51 PM  
Um, this is ridiculous. It's not a blatant rip off like the Moscow on the Hudson poster

25.media.tumblr.com

And in fact, it's not the Avatar poster that he's claiming (if I read that right) -he's claiming that the whole movie and the upcoming Disney park rides are also an infringement. What's next, is Jules Verne's estate going to sue claiming that Avatar infringed on his invention of Science Fiction?
 
2013-06-29 10:38:47 PM  
I thought it was a European graphic novel that he pretty much lifted his entire design palate from?  I mean lock, stock, and blue striped barrel chested he men and long limbed archer half cat girls. The name escapes me now, but I thought that was also in the pipe for suing the crap out of him for...
 
2013-06-29 10:58:02 PM  
And if I don't think that, then Roger Dean doesn't, either?
 
2013-06-29 10:59:33 PM  
Why do I have to keep logging in?? Dammit! Fix it!
 
2013-06-29 11:36:33 PM  
www.progarchives.com
www.progarchives.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
3.bp.blogspot.com

I think he's got a decent case.
 
2013-06-29 11:44:53 PM  
yes he has a case
if my drug-addled memory serves me

/could be wrong
//drug-addled


http://www.mediafire.com/download/tuj7cjf3oq3oooi
 
2013-06-30 12:03:18 AM  
I have everything Yes did until about 1980 on vinyl. I looked at the covers for hours, but when I saw Avatar I didn't make the connection. Looking at the pictures posted here, though, there are similarities - if you can copyright the idea of floating rocks and dragons.
 
2013-06-30 12:07:44 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: [www.progarchives.com image 400x400]
[www.progarchives.com image 450x296]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 462x330]
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I think he's got a decent case.


Yup, he has a case. Where James Cameron fudged it was with the slight Asian/Chinese flair Avatar has. The same slight flair is present in Dean's work. Example of what I'm saying:

www.chinesepaintings.com
fc05.deviantart.net


Even the title has that Asian/Chinese flair:

www.nivas.hr
 
2013-06-30 12:15:31 AM  
Also Ferngully
 
2013-06-30 12:21:50 AM  
Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of a homage. There's nothing wrong with using another piece of art as inspiration for your work. Tarantino takes all kinds of bits and pieces from pop culture for his movies, and he never has to deal with the estate of Charles Schultz saying he owes them for stealing Charlie Brown's design for a Kill Bill character. You'd think he'd be happy to see his work being referenced in a movie that was watched by so many people. Dean is going to get rightly destroyed in court by Cameron's legal team, because to rule in his favor would have a chilling effect on artistic work.
 
2013-06-30 12:22:26 AM  

Mugato: Harlan Ellison successfully sued Cameron over The Terminator, The Abyss is a water-based The Day the Earth Stood Still, there's like a dozen movies Avatar ripped off. Caddyshack 2 had  a better written "evil rich fiance" story. The guy can shoot a film but doesn't have an original thought in his head.


Um... Aren't you forgetting Titanic?
 
2013-06-30 12:23:30 AM  
There are some basic similarities, and perhaps the artists who designed Pandora took some inspiration from Mr. Dean's work.  But, do those similarities merit a lawsuit which basically accuses Cameron and his team of willful copyright infringement?  Nope, sorry; I just don't think there's enough to back up the allegation.

This sounds more like:

1. See the movie "Avatar".
2. Look at own artwork and think, 'Hey, it kinda, sorta looks similar what was in the movie.  I'll sue James Cameron and he'll pay me to shut up about it!"
3. Profit. (Maybe.)
 
2013-06-30 12:27:35 AM  

WhippingBoy: Mugato: Harlan Ellison successfully sued Cameron over The Terminator, The Abyss is a water-based The Day the Earth Stood Still, there's like a dozen movies Avatar ripped off. Caddyshack 2 had  a better written "evil rich fiance" story. The guy can shoot a film but doesn't have an original thought in his head.

Um... Aren't you forgetting Titanic?


No he's forgetting the groundbreaking film that was Piranha 2. Killer flying fish? That shiat transformed cinema forever.
 
2013-06-30 12:33:19 AM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Um, this is ridiculous. It's not a blatant rip off like the Moscow on the Hudson poster

[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x350]

And in fact, it's not the Avatar poster that he's claiming (if I read that right) -he's claiming that the whole movie and the upcoming Disney park rides are also an infringement. What's next, is Jules Verne's estate going to sue claiming that Avatar infringed on his invention of Science Fiction?


Dante Alighieri wrote science fiction a long time before Verne
 
2013-06-30 12:33:51 AM  
Hello, Dean?  You are a stupid-head!
 
2013-06-30 12:37:44 AM  
Yes is just the first of many lined up to sue James Cameron for his shameless plagiarism.

www.radiotimes.com
 
2013-06-30 12:37:46 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of a homage. There's nothing wrong with using another piece of art as inspiration for your work. Tarantino takes all kinds of bits and pieces from pop culture for his movies, and he never has to deal with the estate of Charles Schultz saying he owes them for stealing Charlie Brown's design for a Kill Bill character. You'd think he'd be happy to see his work being referenced in a movie that was watched by so many people. Dean is going to get rightly destroyed in court by Cameron's legal team, because to rule in his favor would have a chilling effect on artistic work.


I think that Timespirits, from Marvel has a fair more compelling case than the Yes album covers...

Though, i09, did put together a fairly comprehensive list a while back...
 
2013-06-30 12:43:08 AM  
i.imgur.com
==

I never get tired of this one.

/Loves me some Yes
 
2013-06-30 12:45:24 AM  
Oblig:

www.dumbdrum.com
 
2013-06-30 01:11:55 AM  
I think if anybody has a right to claim look and feel, it would be Michael Whelan.

/JMHO
//YMMV
 
2013-06-30 01:19:47 AM  
But there'll be no mutant enemy...

/certified.
 
2013-06-30 01:21:32 AM  
Harlan Ellison was successful in his lawsuit against Cameron, because Cameron had made the mistake of openly admitting his flagrant plagiarism in a print interview.

This time? No. These kinds of lawsuits are nearly impossible to win, without a blatant smoking gun admission.

My understanding is that all a person needs to do is change the original inspiration by 15% or so, and it is considered an entirely new work.

While there may have been some direct inspiration, I don't think Dean has a legal case.

/Not a lawyer
 
2013-06-30 01:26:20 AM  
It took 4 years to notice, and that was after years of post-production where we knew what it would look like before it was even finished.
 
2013-06-30 01:31:15 AM  
Shouldn't time have already run out on his ability to sue?  It's not like Avatar was some small indie project that he just now discovered.
 
2013-06-30 01:34:27 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I think he's got a decent case.


Newsflash: the estate of  Vincent Di Fate is now suing the creators of: Star Wars, Star Trek, Space 1999, 2001 A Space Odyssey, NASA and everybody else
 
2013-06-30 01:34:29 AM  
Avatar turned out kind of like a dump I took back in 2007, but I'm not suing anybody about it.
 
2013-06-30 01:34:45 AM  

WhippingBoy: Mugato: Harlan Ellison successfully sued Cameron over The Terminator, The Abyss is a water-based The Day the Earth Stood Still, there's like a dozen movies Avatar ripped off. Caddyshack 2 had  a better written "evil rich fiance" story. The guy can shoot a film but doesn't have an original thought in his head.

Um... Aren't you forgetting Titanic?


Are you?
 
2013-06-30 01:52:42 AM  

AdolfOliverPanties: [www.progarchives.com image 400x400]
[www.progarchives.com image 450x296]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 462x330]
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 600x600]

I think he's got a decent case.


storage.koinup.com
Yeah, against Blizzard Entertainment.

/and all other floating rocks OF ALL TIME
 
2013-06-30 02:02:09 AM  
i1.ytimg.com
This guy might have a claim too, what with all them floating islands and such
 
2013-06-30 02:03:03 AM  

tinyarena: AdolfOliverPanties: [www.progarchives.com image 400x400]
[www.progarchives.com image 450x296]
[4.bp.blogspot.com image 462x330]
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 600x600]

I think he's got a decent case.

[storage.koinup.com image 600x450]
Yeah, against Blizzard Entertainment.

/and all other floating rocks OF ALL TIME


rpgsquare.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-30 03:22:35 AM  
Dude has no case and now Cameron will counter-sue him into oblivion.

/Oblivion, starring Tom Cruise, coming soon to DVD and BluRay
 
2013-06-30 03:53:51 AM  
www.blendbureaux.com

Magritte is rolling over in his grave
 
2013-06-30 05:50:06 AM  
Here's who Cameron really ripped off:

i27.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-30 06:03:38 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of a homage. There's nothing wrong with using another piece of art as inspiration for your work.


And it says right there in the song "Move me on to any black square / Use me any time you want."
 
2013-06-30 06:47:54 AM  

Mad_Radhu: Apparently he doesn't understand the concept of a homage. There's nothing wrong with using another piece of art as inspiration for your work. Tarantino takes all kinds of bits and pieces from pop culture for his movies, and he never has to deal with the estate of Charles Schultz saying he owes them for stealing Charlie Brown's design for a Kill Bill character. You'd think he'd be happy to see his work being referenced in a movie that was watched by so many people. Dean is going to get rightly destroyed in court by Cameron's legal team, because to rule in his favor would have a chilling effect on artistic work.


Wow, Tarantino has a Fark account.

/Tarantino claims he never saw City on Fire
 
2013-06-30 07:57:26 AM  
Production designis an inherently derivative art form. Mostly it's dealing with how much you bother to hide your sources.
Gilliam was nailed for "ripping off" Lebbeus Woods on 12 Monkeys. He is unquestionably one of the finest visual directors. It was less "stolen" than just appropriated because te existing design was exactly what he needed.

http://www.benedict.com/Visual/Monkeys/Monkeys.aspx

In both cases the productions should have hired the original artists as conceptual designers. Have them crank out a bunch of sketches and throw them a bit of money.
 
2013-06-30 08:58:01 AM  
It's all been done.
 
2013-06-30 09:48:00 AM  
Apparently, this is pretty much par for the course with any blockbuster. You can find examples of it in any Fark thread. There are always people claiming that their brilliant comedic post was stolen by Jay Leno or some website, etc.
 
2013-06-30 09:54:24 AM  

hubiestubert: I thought it was a European graphic novel that he pretty much lifted his entire design palate from?  I mean lock, stock, and blue striped barrel chested he men and long limbed archer half cat girls. The name escapes me now, but I thought that was also in the pipe for suing the crap out of him for...


Druuna. There was even a special 3D issue.
 
2013-06-30 10:06:04 AM  
www.moviegate.net

AAAAhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
2013-06-30 10:22:04 AM  

Drunk Astronaut: Here's who Cameron really ripped off:

[i27.photobucket.com image 541x834]


To the chick at the left: Daaaaaaamn!
 
2013-06-30 11:29:41 AM  
AdolfOliverPanties:

Holy crap, there's an ABWH live album? TO THE INTERNET MUSIC STORE.

/ABWH was the first CD I ever bought
//yeah, I got beat up a lot as a kid
 
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