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2013-06-29 06:56:59 PM  

LordOfThePings: Today's Trans Am Pride event


Let's hope Joe Biden shows up to the right one for his gift.
 
2013-06-29 06:57:53 PM  
Some people just try a little too hard to be a pretty freak.

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2013-06-29 06:58:20 PM  
CSB. One of the bridesmaids at the wedding I recently attended was pre-op. Ex-Marine and quite a character. She caught the bouquet; I caught the garter.

I'll post my honeymoon pictures if that pans out.
 
2013-06-29 06:58:44 PM  
I wonder if anyone whose tastes lie in this direction, ever pretends to be TG at this sort of an event?  Like people that attend AA meetings [and there are people that do] to socialize and pick up dates etc., but aren't actually alcoholics.

/Not being snarky, btw.  Be, do, find happiness with whomever & whatever you like; as long as it's legal & consenting, none of it bothers me.
 
2013-06-29 07:00:17 PM  

mafiageek1980: You did very well. I am in the category of "not wanting the surgery". I don't feel the NEED to have the surgery to feel like a dude even though I ID as a dude. and you are right: Each trans person is different. So yeah, you kick ass and all :) Thanks :)


Thank you and you're welcome. I'm not a total stranger to trans* issues, though my wife is more focused on the LGBTQI rights than I am so I get a good chunk of information from sources she's found and friends she's made.

She's also been about my only source - it seems the only decent information about trans* people comes from trans* people themselves. Which is handy in terms of getting good quality, firsthand information, but there isn't exactly a wealth of it in mainstream media (TV, film, literature, video games etc.). If I may go a little off-topic, what do you think could be done about getting more information out there in helpful ways?

/am I even making sense
//amateur writer
 
2013-06-29 07:06:55 PM  
i512.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-29 07:10:36 PM  
Yay for assimilationism! Let's hear it for privilege for ALL middle-class white people!


Shedim
(possibly more than any other non-heterosexual groups)

Pretty sure that's technically incorrect, as gender != sexuality.

Oh yeah, this is that kind of thread.


A Terrible Human
I dunno what the fark this person is going for honestly.

That's probably the point.


Shedim
So I guess it's more down to the individual trans* person; some are okay with how they are, others would appreciate the correction

That and the thousands of dollars and many hours and stress, which is a matter of economic class. Privileged and trans? Great, have surgery. Poor and trans? fark you!
 
2013-06-29 07:11:21 PM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-29 07:14:09 PM  
The event intended to increase the power of the transgender community and its allies

Now witness the power of this fully armed and operational transgender parade!
 
2013-06-29 07:14:29 PM  
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2013-06-29 07:16:44 PM  
I was expecting something more like this:

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2013-06-29 07:18:30 PM  

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A Google image search for transgender came up with these.
Hmmmm apparently not the same people at the march.


I searched 'transgender' and the results came back with rainbow colors outside the box (standard web search).  Interesting....
 
2013-06-29 07:18:31 PM  
www.libertymeadows.com
 
2013-06-29 07:22:39 PM  

Voiceofreason01: And no frogs fell from the sky, no plague of locusts, society didn't collapse....it's almost as if tolerance and acceptance are a good thing, crazy I know.


The only thing I don't tolerate is the incessant splitting of the group. What ever happened to "Pervert"?
 
2013-06-29 07:30:49 PM  
I respect everyone's right to do or be whatever they want. Have NO problem with it... But look at me!!! I need attention!!
 
2013-06-29 07:32:54 PM  

NFA: A Google image search for transgender came up with these.
Hmmmm apparently not the same people at the march.


i haev the weirdest boner right now.jpg
 
2013-06-29 07:35:23 PM  

FreetardoRivera: Saborlas: In before transphobes being worthless haters.

I think you can be accepting of trannies and still point out that 99% of them look terrible.


It's tricky for those who went through puberty as a male to gain feminine form due to testosterone's effects on bone growth. Surgeons may have to shave down facial bones, Adams apple, etc and it's basically impossible to alter shoulders and hands. These days, those that were identified before puberty hit and got to take hormones are lucky. They don't have to deal with 50 years as a man and trying to change things.

People accept a slight somewhat delicate man much easier than a solidly built masculine woman. Even non-trans women get grief for not looking "feminine" enough.
 
2013-06-29 07:38:31 PM  

Shedim: RKade: I'd ask why they need to go so far (in regards to the surgery as opposed to just dealing with the hand they were dealt) but I did that in another thread and never got a good answer beyond "UR A BIGOT ND HOMOPHOBE LOLOLOL!"

Well, I'm not an authority on this (lowest difficulty setting and an admittedly incomplete understanding of the subject), but I don't think all trans* people view the surgery the same way. Some trans* people are happy to just identify as the other gender without wanting to go through the surgery at all, and they're okay with being a man that happens to have a vagina or a woman who happens to have a penis. For those that want the surgery, I think it's more to do with wanting a body that physically matches their mental gender, so they choose to go through the counselling, hormones, surgery and all that.

So I guess it's more down to the individual trans* person; some are okay with how they are, others would appreciate the correction - asking the dealer for replacement cards instead of trying to use the hand they have, to clumsily continue the poker analogy.

/I welcome additions/corrections/slaps upside the head from actual trans* people that happen to read this.


Honest question: what's with the asterisk after trans?
 
2013-06-29 07:42:08 PM  
Trap thread?
 
2013-06-29 07:42:21 PM  

hardinparamedic: atomicmask: PS, what you posted was attention whores.

I'm sorry. I can't hear your whining over the sound of how awesome these people are.

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Sorry. You're pretty much Abe at this point.


These kinds of pictures always strike me as sad whether it's a woman by birth or otherwise (please correct my phrasing if that's off, I'm not intending to be unpleasant). No matter what path you take to womanhood, it seems cruel to boil it down to appearances alone. Are they less womanly if you don't ogle them?
 
2013-06-29 07:42:24 PM  

ACunningPlan: I wonder if anyone whose tastes lie in this direction, ever pretends to be TG at this sort of an event?  Like people that attend AA meetings [and there are people that do] to socialize and pick up dates etc., but aren't actually alcoholics.

/Not being snarky, btw.  Be, do, find happiness with whomever & whatever you like; as long as it's legal & consenting, none of it bothers me.


Something like Trans/Gay pride I could understand. As someone who had to sit through an AA meeting for school (class assignment for a psych class), I can't think of anyplace more boring to go for a hookup. Never mind that they pretty much all have preexisting baggage (it's one thing if you hit it off with someone who has major baggage, but why preselect for it?).
 
2013-06-29 07:43:25 PM  

Qellaqan: Honest question: what's with the asterisk after trans?


It's meant to cover all forms of "transitioning" people (transvestite, transgender/transexual, genderfluid etc.). Sort of a trans<fill in the gap here> sign. I've seen quite a few other trans* people use it, because just using "trans" doesn't necessarily cover everyone.

You could still get away without the asterisk (I think); it's just something I was told.
 
2013-06-29 07:44:16 PM  
Shedim:
Somebody went overboard on the Photoshop with those pictures; they look like mannequins. Especially the fourth one.

FreetardoRivera:

I think you can be accepting of trannies and still point out that 99% of them look terrible.

This is because once upon a time most of them did look terrible, especially as they aged. Male puberty is a difficult thing to undo, chemically/hormonally speaking. In terms of physical appearance it is much easier to transition from female to male than male to female. However with more kids identifying as transgender earlier in life the "new crop" of adult male transsexuals have never gone through male puberty and as a consequence they look much more feminine as adults. No Photoshopping necessary.
 
2013-06-29 07:44:48 PM  
Photobucket doesn't want to cooperate with my phone tonight, so I'm just going to say it: I'd totally hit the one in red, and the girl in green to her right is welcome to join in too.
 
2013-06-29 07:46:18 PM  

mafiageek1980: Shedim: mafiageek1980: /Transgender

You must love these threads.

naw, I am more of a "Caturday" fan, but when threads like this appear, as a Trans person, I DO feel the need to leave my 2 cents and/or educate the curious. There have been people on Trans threads that have honest questions and don't just "bash", so, I am here to help, and if I have something to say, I will.


Yes, keep doing it. I don't know any transpeople in real life (to my knowledge), and reading these threads has been really enlightening. The alien is often naturally uncomfortable, so you help it less alien to to the rest of us. I know my own thinking has evolved substantially just through fark.
 
2013-06-29 07:46:55 PM  
Meanwhile, back in reality, there is zero scientific evidence that sex reassignment surgery improves anyone's life or mental well-being.

But hey, how's that 41% suicide attempt rate working out for ya, trannies?
 
2013-06-29 07:48:43 PM  

Utter Genius: Meanwhile, back in reality, there is zero scientific evidence that sex reassignment surgery improves anyone's life or mental well-being.


imgs.xkcd.com
 
2013-06-29 07:49:06 PM  

atomicmask: hardinparamedic: atomicmask: Oh, I didn't know when groups of people play pretend that they needed to march,

I was wondering when you'd show up. It's never a laugh riot without having to get your clever insight into topics which defies all logic, science, and common sense.

atomicmask: most of the time with a bunch of mentally ill lonely men play pretend and dress up its called a comic convention.

What mentally ill men look like:

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Actually. No. I can understand why you rage against things so much.

LOOK, I CAN FIND PICTURES TOO!
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PS, what you posted was attention whores.


And yet here you are slagging on people who do you no harm. Whining for it's own sake is attention whoring at it's finest.
 
2013-06-29 07:50:25 PM  
where's the obesity pride parade??

newsphilter.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-29 07:50:47 PM  
atomicmask:

Posting people's profile pics in thread makes you look really, really creepy and stalkerish.  If I was a mod, you'd have earned a time out for that.
 
2013-06-29 07:52:06 PM  
Wait, I thought it was a hate crime now not to put the asterisk after trans*.

/Nothing against trans folk, just been forced to deal with a bunch of the ones that make the entire movement look bad and jaded because of it.
 
2013-06-29 07:52:25 PM  
We are living in an exciting time where academic and societal ideas of sex, gender, and orientation are getting broken further apart and redefined leading to better chances of personal discovery and finding tools to be happy. Some people don't like exciting times of personal discovery and happiness. Those people are threadshiatters.That is my new theory about these Fark threads.
 
2013-06-29 07:53:16 PM  

big-southern: Ah yes, lets take our children and completely warp their minds by deceiving them into believing that this deviant behavior is normal. Good going liberal farking trash.


Brand new account, deliberately stereotypical name, straight from "never posted before" to "complete asshole" in a single post.

Seems legit.  Buh-bye.
 
2013-06-29 07:53:54 PM  
It's quite exciting to see people around here not only supporting the lgbt community but also responding to the trolls and those who are uneducated about the subject or simply unable to understand. Kudos :)
 
2013-06-29 07:54:24 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: where's the obesity pride parade??

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They are in all around the Paula  Deen restaurants, solidarity and  butter forever
 
2013-06-29 07:54:36 PM  

JPINFV: ACunningPlan: I wonder if anyone whose tastes lie in this direction, ever pretends to be TG at this sort of an event?  Like people that attend AA meetings [and there are people that do] to socialize and pick up dates etc., but aren't actually alcoholics.

/Not being snarky, btw.  Be, do, find happiness with whomever & whatever you like; as long as it's legal & consenting, none of it bothers me.

Something like Trans/Gay pride I could understand. As someone who had to sit through an AA meeting for school (class assignment for a psych class), I can't think of anyplace more boring to go for a hookup. Never mind that they pretty much all have preexisting baggage (it's one thing if you hit it off with someone who has major baggage, but why preselect for it?).


Agreed.  And the AA analogy wasn't a good one.  But people's oddities never cease to amaze me, and I did wonder if in an atmosphere where "appearances" [for want of a better word] are fluid, would/could someone pretend?

Bad luck on having to attend a meeting - sounds ghastly - must confess my only perception comes from the t.v./movie cliche:)
 
2013-06-29 07:54:39 PM  

Bane of Broone: Whining for it's own sake is attention whoring at it's finest.


it's means it is
it's means it is
 
2013-06-29 07:55:10 PM  

bwilson27: I respect everyone's right to do or be whatever they want. Have NO problem with it... But look at me!!! I need attention!!


I'm mixed on this one. On one hand, I've always had a problem with people being "proud" of something they had no choice in. Skin color, gender, ethnic background, religion (for the vast majority of people), country of citizenship (unless you've seriously visited another 1st world country, and no Mexico doesn't count for the Americans, then you really haven't made a choice), sexuality, gender, and many other things falls into this category. If straight/gay, cisgender/transgender is considered a birth trait and not a choice, why is it anything to be proud of? Now, I'm not saying that someone should be ashamed, just that it is an "it is what it is" characteristic.

On the other hand, given the pure shiat that homosexuals and transgendered folks get, being open with their sexual/gender identity is something to be proud about. That said, shoving it into everyone's faces is generally a bit counterproductive. Public displays of affection (besides standard things like a peck) are disgusting regardless of whether it's a guy and a girl, two girls, two guys, or two guys, a girl, and a pizza place.
 
2013-06-29 07:55:35 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Bane of Broone: Whining for it's own sake is attention whoring at it's finest.

it's means it is
it's means it is


Oh noes! There goes my validity!
 
2013-06-29 07:55:58 PM  

FloydA: big-southern: Ah yes, lets take our children and completely warp their minds by deceiving them into believing that this deviant behavior is normal. Good going liberal farking trash.

Brand new account, deliberately stereotypical name, straight from "never posted before" to "complete asshole" in a single post.

Seems legit.  Buh-bye.


Who has all this time on their hands?
 
2013-06-29 07:57:00 PM  

Shedim: mafiageek1980: You did very well. I am in the category of "not wanting the surgery". I don't feel the NEED to have the surgery to feel like a dude even though I ID as a dude. and you are right: Each trans person is different. So yeah, you kick ass and all :) Thanks :)

Thank you and you're welcome. I'm not a total stranger to trans* issues, though my wife is more focused on the LGBTQI rights than I am so I get a good chunk of information from sources she's found and friends she's made.

She's also been about my only source - it seems the only decent information about trans* people comes from trans* people themselves. Which is handy in terms of getting good quality, firsthand information, but there isn't exactly a wealth of it in mainstream media (TV, film, literature, video games etc.). If I may go a little off-topic, what do you think could be done about getting more information out there in helpful ways?

/am I even making sense
//amateur writer


well, the pride marches help, but as far as getting info out, I would suggest maybe Transfolk that are in college set up info booths (something like "ask a transperson), become more visible (in an positive and accurate way) in TV shows, perhaps maybe booths at local events (depending on the event, something like a health fair perhaps), etc.
 
2013-06-29 07:57:56 PM  
haha...scent free zone
 
2013-06-29 07:58:44 PM  

NFA: A Google image search for transgender came up with these.
Hmmmm apparently not the same people at the march.


I love you. Thank you.
 
2013-06-29 07:59:14 PM  

A Terrible Human: FreetardoRivera: Saborlas: In before transphobes being worthless haters.

I think you can be accepting of trannies and still point out that 99% of them look terrible.

How dare you not recognize the beauty of this I dunno what the fark this person is going for honestly.
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It's German for 'The cis scum'. No one who speaks German could be a bad person.
 
2013-06-29 08:00:45 PM  

ACunningPlan: Bad luck on having to attend a meeting - sounds ghastly - must confess my only perception comes from the t.v./movie cliche:)


Meh, I've had to do worse things for medical school. I can see how it's useful for alcoholics. Not being an alcoholic nor being present in order to support any specific individual makes it more of an hour of my life I'd like to get back.
 
2013-06-29 08:00:48 PM  
JPINFV:

On the other hand, given the pure shiat that homosexuals and transgendered folks get, being open with their sexual/gender identity is something to be proud about. That said, shoving it into everyone's faces is generally a bit counterproductive.

How inconvenienced were you by the Pride parades and celebrations in your city this weekend?  A lot?  Remember that there are 51 other weekends every year, so don't worry, it won't happen too frequently.

Public displays of affection (besides standard things like a peck) are disgusting regardless of whether it's a guy and a girl, two girls, two guys, or two guys, a girl, and a pizza place.


I guess we have different opinions about what is disgusting.  I consider genuine displays of affection to be pretty beautiful, even if I don't find the participants personally attractive.
 
2013-06-29 08:00:52 PM  

Spaced Lion: Wait, I thought it was a hate crime now not to put the asterisk after trans*.

/Nothing against trans folk, just been forced to deal with a bunch of the ones that make the entire movement look bad and jaded because of it.


meh, it depends on the person. Frankly, I don't give a rat-ass about the asterisk whereas some transpeople do.
 
2013-06-29 08:02:26 PM  

FreetardoRivera: Saborlas: In before transphobes being worthless haters.

I think you can be accepting of trannies and still point out that 99% of them look terrible.


O come on,,, It's somewhere around 80%. Don't be that "sharp knees" guy. But seriously,, Don't people realize that if you put make up, a garter belt, and a set of tits on an attractive dude,,, you wind up with an attractive dudett? It's not rocket science.
 
2013-06-29 08:03:36 PM  
Is it me, or is the quality of Fark trolling shiat-poor lately?
 
2013-06-29 08:03:45 PM  

atomicmask: hardinparamedic: atomicmask: PS, what you posted was attention whores.

I'm sorry. I can't hear your whining over the sound of how awesome these people are.

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Sorry. You're pretty much Abe at this point.

Hey look, I found another picture of a huge delusional dork!


Also you trail me around like the tail I never wanted, god damn you have the biggest mancrush on me I have ever seen.


Hmmmm.....might yum. Depends on beer/movie selections. And as long as he's okay with me beer-drinking while WOWing.
 
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