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(CNN)   Sure it's discriminatory to hire only hot, skinny, nubile women as flight attendants. Sure it may have been previously found illegal. But it saves fuel, dammit. So bring the hot flight attendants back   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 154
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2013-06-29 12:39:26 PM  
It also saves money because you only have to pay them 78% of what you pay male skywaitresses.

/ actually that's probably only true of unattractive women.  The hot ones come at a premium.
 
2013-06-29 12:55:25 PM  
The first airline to go All-Midget Flight Crew will soar to profitability heretofore unimagined.
 
2013-06-29 01:06:59 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The first airline to go All-Midget Flight Crew will soar to profitability heretofore unimagined.


Not if they can't see over the drink cart.
 
2013-06-29 01:07:32 PM  
Grounding the airline would really save fuel.
 
2013-06-29 01:09:45 PM  
The difference in fuel cost between a heavy person and a light person is to insignificant to be measurable.
 
2013-06-29 01:10:02 PM  
www.cbc.ca

/No more "fake" flight attendant then!
 
2013-06-29 01:11:44 PM  
www.braniffinternational.com
 
2013-06-29 01:12:13 PM  
csb: future mother-in-law just had to fly home to Korea for a family emergency. I took her to the airport ( to try to help if there was any problems because she doesn't speak English very well). the counter of Asiana airlines had some of the most beautiful women at the counter. I jokingly mentioned this to the fiancee, and she told me that the flight attendants are even hotter on the airplane. she told me that they still have beauty standards on the planes there. weigh ins before the flight, forced retirement at 30ish, etc. I don't agree with the methods, but nothing wrong with eye candy on a 12+ hour flight.
 
2013-06-29 01:13:00 PM  
Businesses are allowed to discriminate if it serves a legitimate business purpose. I remember reading about a barber with a "no black people" sign who got away with it because he doesn't work on what google tells me is actually called "Afro-textured hair". (Other "legitimate" examples are churches hiring only members of their flock, female gyms only hiring women, businesses that help disabled people get jobs only hiring disabled people, etc) Claiming they are discriminating to save fuel might actually fly...
 
2013-06-29 01:14:43 PM  
I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity
 
2013-06-29 01:14:58 PM  
.....and stop hiring these:

i22.photobucket.com

/But it is a delicious beer.
 
2013-06-29 01:15:39 PM  
1.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-29 01:19:37 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity


You're thinking of smokers. We're still allowed to mock fatties here on Fark, but in the real world it's highly frowned upon.
 
2013-06-29 01:19:43 PM  
Hot flight attendants:
seattle98.files.wordpress.com
/yes please
 
2013-06-29 01:22:15 PM  
Bras are quite heavy as well. Just think of all that additional savings that could be heaped into the corporate cookie jar!
 
2013-06-29 01:24:04 PM  
This article is unfair.  Attractive women have no advantages whatsoever.
 
2013-06-29 01:25:53 PM  
Interesting list from Patrick Smith showing the percentage of various planes' weight that that passengers comprise (crew is, of course, a small percentage of that percentage):
http://www.askthepilot.com/airfares-by-the-pound/
 
2013-06-29 01:26:32 PM  
Unless they can hire sexy TSA agents to do the groping and other invasions of privacy, it doesn't matter much who's working on the airplane.

Seriously, what qualifications do they require for TSA agents? I think if you check the Not A Whistleblower box and can't fit well into polyester pants, they hire you.
 
2013-06-29 01:28:33 PM  
Breast reduction surgery would make it lighter too.
 
2013-06-29 01:29:47 PM  

speciaal: csb: future mother-in-law just had to fly home to Korea for a family emergency. I took her to the airport ( to try to help if there was any problems because she doesn't speak English very well). the counter of Asiana airlines had some of the most beautiful women at the counter. I jokingly mentioned this to the fiancee, and she told me that the flight attendants are even hotter on the airplane. she told me that they still have beauty standards on the planes there. weigh ins before the flight, forced retirement at 30ish, etc. I don't agree with the methods, but nothing wrong with eye candy on a 12+ hour flight.


Just about any Asian airline (Cathay, Thai, Singapore, EVA, Korea, etc. & etc.) will be staffed by extremely attractive women who somehow manage to suppress the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.
 
2013-06-29 01:30:19 PM  
Yeah, I'm just posting here so I can come back later to lots and lots of pics of hot flight attendants.
 
2013-06-29 01:30:58 PM  
The uniforms they're wearing in the article's pic negate the advantages that are gained in recruiting.
 
2013-06-29 01:32:32 PM  
I love the denial on the part of attendants that part of their job is to be attractive. Sorry, but it has a direct impact on the traveler's experience (air travel is unpleasant enough as it is), and that equals money. I'm a liberal guy, but these complaints make as much sense as a fat guy complaining that Chippendale's won't hire him.

<img src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r72xkEKp1rn2y3ao1_500.jpg">
 
2013-06-29 01:32:54 PM  
CSB time:

In April of 2001 i went to flight attendant school in Dallas/Ft. Worth for American Airlines. In my class there were 19 women, 2 married men, a gay guy and me. Out of the 19 women, 3 were really hot, 5 were good looking, 4 were doable and the rest.....eh. The second day the hottest one confessed to me that she was a stripper while I was giving her a massage on my bed. A very good friend of mine is a chef in Dallas, I planned on hanging out with him at the restaurant, so I invited Cali to go with me. Told my friend Pete about her "She's a stripper? We're all gonna fark her!" I tell him I want to come in like that scene in Goodfellas where everybody knows Ray Loitta and they give him a special table, ect. So Cali and I arrive in a rented red convertible, I give the valet the secret word, and from that point it was "Mr. FarkinHostile! So good to see you!". Took us through the kitchen, everyone greeted me by name, it was totally cool. We get taken to the Chef Table, and the first thing Cali does is order a $200 bottle of wine. "Yikes", I think, and eventually the bill comes to almost $400. As I go for my wallet, Cali throws her sugar daddys credit card on the table. I tell her "This doesn't mean I'm going to sleep with you" We go out drinking with Pete and his roommate Andy, we hit Panteras strip club, we get all farked up. On the drive home, Andy has Calis shirt off and is sucking her tits. We go back to Petes place and proceed to gang bang her.

That was the third day. I was there for a month. Flight attendant school was crazy for a single straight dude.

/got shot at the last night
//farking Texas, man.
 
2013-06-29 01:33:19 PM  
Gah...stupid new Fark...
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-29 01:36:34 PM  

qualtrough: speciaal: csb: future mother-in-law just had to fly home to Korea for a family emergency. I took her to the airport ( to try to help if there was any problems because she doesn't speak English very well). the counter of Asiana airlines had some of the most beautiful women at the counter. I jokingly mentioned this to the fiancee, and she told me that the flight attendants are even hotter on the airplane. she told me that they still have beauty standards on the planes there. weigh ins before the flight, forced retirement at 30ish, etc. I don't agree with the methods, but nothing wrong with eye candy on a 12+ hour flight.

Just about any Asian airline (Cathay, Thai, Singapore, EVA, Korea, etc. & etc.) will be staffed by extremely attractive women who somehow manage to suppress the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.




Then there was an airline in Vietnam where the flight attendants had an impromptu bikini fashion show on a flight:

static2.businessinsider.com
 
2013-06-29 01:37:06 PM  
I've never encountered one of these mythical hot stewardesses. Just middle aged gay dudes and frumpy women.
 
2013-06-29 01:38:28 PM  
I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.
 
2013-06-29 01:39:19 PM  

WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


Eh
 
2013-06-29 01:39:24 PM  

The_Sponge: .....and stop hiring these:

[i22.photobucket.com image 320x320]

/But it is a delicious beer.


I'm a big fan, especially at hockey season!

/Works across the street from the brewery and taproom
 
2013-06-29 01:40:26 PM  

gimmegimme: This article is unfair.  Attractive women have no advantages whatsoever.


HAHAHAHA!

Wait, where's kawaii-whatshername? She agrees with you.
 
2013-06-29 01:41:03 PM  

SmithHiller: Hot flight attendants:
[seattle98.files.wordpress.com image 640x427]
/yes please


There we go. That's why I clicked.
 
2013-06-29 01:41:11 PM  

WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


Haven't flown Korean Air, have you?
 
2013-06-29 01:42:23 PM  
Is this the thread where we discuss the fact that ground waitresses make less than minimum wage and rely on tips to survive but sky waitresses make a shiat ton more money no matter how bad they are at their job?
 
2013-06-29 01:44:30 PM  

SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I love the denial on the part of attendants that part of their job is to be attractive. Sorry, but it has a direct impact on the traveler's experience (air travel is unpleasant enough as it is), and that equals money. I'm a liberal guy, but these complaints make as much sense as a fat guy complaining that Chippendale's won't hire him.

<img src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r72xkEKp1rn2y3ao1_500.jpg">


Waitresses get hired for their looks, to a certain degree. Why should sky waitresses be different?
 
2013-06-29 01:46:25 PM  
i1143.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-29 01:48:16 PM  

bingethinker: SacriliciousBeerSwiller: I love the denial on the part of attendants that part of their job is to be attractive. Sorry, but it has a direct impact on the traveler's experience (air travel is unpleasant enough as it is), and that equals money. I'm a liberal guy, but these complaints make as much sense as a fat guy complaining that Chippendale's won't hire him.

<img src="http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9r72xkEKp1rn2y3ao1_500.jpg">

Waitresses get hired for their looks, to a certain degree. Why should sky waitresses be different?


This is actually a very sad manifestation of misogyny in our society.  Women would GREATLY prefer to load thousands of pounds of luggage into plane after plane, just like they would MUCH RATHER spend a ten-hour shift in a hot and sweaty kitchen.  It's the same thing in the construction industry; women would PREFER to shovel hot asphalt instead of holding up traffic signs.  We're just not letting them show what they can do.
 
2013-06-29 01:48:46 PM  

Shakes: [i1143.photobucket.com image 340x337]


I'd like to fly over her peaks, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.
 
2013-06-29 01:49:26 PM  
oh cmon! I like the chunky middle-aged menopausal american flight attendants, whose antidepressants wear off half way through the flight, making them all sad and grumpy! Great for those long overseas flights.
 
2013-06-29 01:52:36 PM  

WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


That represents Canada in a nutshell. Old, sterile, boring.
 
2013-06-29 01:52:50 PM  

titwrench: Is this the thread where we discuss the fact that ground waitresses make less than minimum wage and rely on tips to survive but sky waitresses make a shiat ton more money no matter how bad they are at their job?


It could be, or we just just post pictures.
 
2013-06-29 01:54:23 PM  

pxlboy: WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.

Haven't flown Korean Air, have you?


No goddammit. I've been to Korea 11 times and it's been Air Canada Every. Single. Time. Star Alliance, my ass.
 
2013-06-29 01:54:33 PM  
Why are sexy flight attendants a bad thing?
 
2013-06-29 01:54:58 PM  

WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


I don't like paying for old ladies to be surly to me, so I try to fly Porter or Westjet whenever possible.  They're not perfect, by any means, but they do actually seem to give a damn about the customer experience.

worldairlinenews.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-29 01:56:30 PM  
10-20 pounds skinnier than normal times 5 is like a grand total of 100 pounds. Compared to the weight of the whole plane that's what... 8 cents worth of gas they'll save?
 
2013-06-29 01:57:13 PM  
I'd settle for one that wasn't eligible for Social Security 3 years ago.
 
2013-06-29 01:57:13 PM  
Quick, somebody depress gimmegimme
 
2013-06-29 01:59:31 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity


Too lazy to read thread, but as others have no doubt pointed out before me:  Not since obesity became a "disease".

/ My love of Pop-Tarts is a disease
 
2013-06-29 02:00:07 PM  
banoosh.com 

even lighter
 
2013-06-29 02:00:44 PM  
" the airline's male-female cabin crew ratio of 40:60 was among the most male-heavy in the industry in India.He also confirmed that GoAir would be seeking to adjust this ratio to be in line with the industry norm of 30 men to 70 women."

Just correcting historical discrimination against women. Nothing to see here.

Also, it's an Indian airline.  Does India prohibit what it's doing?  Does U. S. EEOC law have any jurisdiction?
 
2013-06-29 02:00:46 PM  

qualtrough: the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.


This. What is that stuff? Why are they all like that?

"Yes lady, obviously I should've known you were talking to me. Even  though my head was turned talking to someone else at the time. And yes it's all my fault. I'm wasting your time. You could've been whole inches (!!) further down this flying cattle car if I'd just told you whether I wanted a 2 cubic inch diet sugar free caffeine free peach watermelon Pepsi or not."
 
2013-06-29 02:02:43 PM  

LewDux: Quick, somebody depress gimmegimme


Don't worry; the blue-eyed, blond stewardesses a few posts up certainly brightened my day!
 
2013-06-29 02:06:48 PM  

Jacob_Roberson: qualtrough: the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.

This. What is that stuff? Why are they all like that?

"Yes lady, obviously I should've known you were talking to me. Even  though my head was turned talking to someone else at the time. And yes it's all my fault. I'm wasting your time. You could've been whole inches (!!) further down this flying cattle car if I'd just told you whether I wanted a 2 cubic inch diet sugar free caffeine free peach watermelon Pepsi or not."


Next time someone suggests that tipping should be outlawed, tell them this story. This is what happens when servers (yes, that's what they are, folks) no longer need to work for tips.
 
2013-06-29 02:07:16 PM  
I can't stand sky biatches, so they may as well be pretty. Hire them young and perky, fire them when they get old and bitter.
 
2013-06-29 02:07:27 PM  

Kyosuke: Jacob_Roberson: qualtrough: the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.

This. What is that stuff? Why are they all like that?

"Yes lady, obviously I should've known you were talking to me. Even  though my head was turned talking to someone else at the time. And yes it's all my fault. I'm wasting your time. You could've been whole inches (!!) further down this flying cattle car if I'd just told you whether I wanted a 2 cubic inch diet sugar free caffeine free peach watermelon Pepsi or not."

Next time someone suggests that tipping should be outlawed, tell them this story. This is what happens when servers (yes, that's what they are, folks) no longer need to work for tips.


That and they're protected by the unions.
 
2013-06-29 02:09:24 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity


Where have you been?  It is now considered a disease...

"I am not diseased!  I am big-boned!"
 
2013-06-29 02:13:33 PM  
Gah, give me a cute chipper flight attendant any day over the evil cranks that pass for FA nowadays. I've had run ins with rude FAs and they're Napoleans with wormwood and estrogen. No, chicken, you are not my boss for the duration of the flight. Give me my soda and GTF away.
 
2013-06-29 02:15:30 PM  

DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Gah, give me a cute chipper flight attendant any day over the evil cranks that pass for FA nowadays. I've had run ins with rude FAs and they're Napoleans with wormwood and estrogen. No, chicken, you are not my boss for the duration of the flight. Give me my soda and GTF away.


Stewardesses are really safety compliance professionals.  They are there to enforce the FAA regulations that keep you safe.  For example, if you have your Kindle on during takeoff, you could easily take control of the plane.  If the plane takes a nosedive at 500 miles an hour, the stewardess' reminder to get into crash position could save your life.
 
2013-06-29 02:15:56 PM  

desertfool: Then there was an airline in Vietnam where the flight attendants had an impromptu bikini fashion show on a flight:


Please don't do that on Air Canada.
 
2013-06-29 02:20:09 PM  

serial_crusher: It also saves money because you only have to pay them 78% of what you pay male skywaitresses.


Women provide less than 78% of the value that men do, once you take into account the massive disruption caused by pregnancy and maternity leave.
 
2013-06-29 02:20:56 PM  

gimmegimme: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Gah, give me a cute chipper flight attendant any day over the evil cranks that pass for FA nowadays. I've had run ins with rude FAs and they're Napoleans with wormwood and estrogen. No, chicken, you are not my boss for the duration of the flight. Give me my soda and GTF away.

Stewardesses are really safety compliance professionals.  They are there to enforce the FAA regulations that keep you safe.  For example, if you have your Kindle on during takeoff, you could easily take control of the plane.  If the plane takes a nosedive at 500 miles an hour, the stewardess' reminder to get into crash position could save your life.


I hollowed out a space in a hardback book to slip my kindle into. Read it throughout the flight with skybiatches none the wiser.
 
2013-06-29 02:22:08 PM  

JesusJuice: gimmegimme: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Gah, give me a cute chipper flight attendant any day over the evil cranks that pass for FA nowadays. I've had run ins with rude FAs and they're Napoleans with wormwood and estrogen. No, chicken, you are not my boss for the duration of the flight. Give me my soda and GTF away.

Stewardesses are really safety compliance professionals.  They are there to enforce the FAA regulations that keep you safe.  For example, if you have your Kindle on during takeoff, you could easily take control of the plane.  If the plane takes a nosedive at 500 miles an hour, the stewardess' reminder to get into crash position could save your life.

I hollowed out a space in a hardback book to slip my kindle into. Read it throughout the flight with skybiatches none the wiser.


Pro tip!  Thanks
 
2013-06-29 02:22:43 PM  

FarkinHostile: Flight attendant school was crazy for a single straight dude.


*golf clap*
 
2013-06-29 02:23:08 PM  
According to some internet guy's napkin math, each nine pounds of extra weight on a thousand mile flight requires one more pound of gas to fly. Godspeed bikini airlines. Reach for that bottom line.
 
2013-06-29 02:25:08 PM  

pxlboy: titwrench: Is this the thread where we discuss the fact that ground waitresses make less than minimum wage and rely on tips to survive but sky waitresses make a shiat ton more money no matter how bad they are at their job?

It could be, or we just just post pictures.


I like your idea better.
 
2013-06-29 02:27:19 PM  

powhound: Bras are quite heavy as well. Just think of all that additional savings that could be heaped into the corporate cookie jar!


Charles_Nelson_Reilly: The uniforms they're wearing in the article's pic negate the advantages that are gained in recruiting.


I am beginning to envision a solution that combines the best of both observations: naked flight attendants!  It's obvious, when you think about it.
 
2013-06-29 02:31:16 PM  

Mr. Coffee Nerves: The first airline to go All-Midget Flight Crew will soar to profitability heretofore unimagined.


Nah, child labor.

/Stop hiring twentysix year olds
//And hire twenty six-year olds
 
2013-06-29 02:31:31 PM  

FloydA: powhound: Bras are quite heavy as well. Just think of all that additional savings that could be heaped into the corporate cookie jar!

Charles_Nelson_Reilly: The uniforms they're wearing in the article's pic negate the advantages that are gained in recruiting.

I am beginning to envision a solution that combines the best of both observations: naked flight attendants!  It's obvious, when you think about it.

Not if you have the aisle seat on AA...think about it...
 
2013-06-29 02:33:40 PM  

PizzaJedi81: Yeah, I'm just posting here so I can come back later to lots and lots of pics of hot flight attendants.


Seconded.
 
2013-06-29 02:36:24 PM  

Kyosuke: Next time someone suggests that tipping should be outlawed, tell them this story.


You first.
 
2013-06-29 02:38:55 PM  
What's this $7 excess weight flight attendant fee?
 
2013-06-29 02:42:35 PM  
content.deltas.com.au
Bring on the sexy stews, man. Yeah!
 
2013-06-29 02:44:22 PM  

TheMaskedArmadillo: FloydA: powhound: Bras are quite heavy as well. Just think of all that additional savings that could be heaped into the corporate cookie jar!

Charles_Nelson_Reilly: The uniforms they're wearing in the article's pic negate the advantages that are gained in recruiting.

I am beginning to envision a solution that combines the best of both observations: naked flight attendants!  It's obvious, when you think about it.

Not if you have the aisle seat on AA...think about it...


Meh, I never go to those meetings anyway, no matter what my parole officer says.
 
2013-06-29 02:46:54 PM  

Dear Jerk: What's this $7 excess weight flight attendant fee?


If it was on Spirit it would be about $30. Their next fee is the co-pilot fee.
 
2013-06-29 02:49:39 PM  
There have been numerous court rulings that support bona fide occupational qualifications, or BFOQs.  Meaning that you cannot be sued for turning down the job application from a blind person to be, let's say - a commercial airline pilot.

/I hereby swear (or attest) that this is not a bookmark
 
2013-06-29 02:50:57 PM  

sdd2000: Dear Jerk: What's this $7 excess weight flight attendant fee?

If it was on Spirit it would be about $30. Their next fee is the co-pilot fee.


They waive that if you can prove at least 30 hours of time on Microsoft Flight Simulator.
 
2013-06-29 02:52:03 PM  
i162.photobucket.com

Smoking is NOT allowed on any Delta flight!
 
2013-06-29 02:53:06 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity


I don't want to accuse you of preferring rocks to live under, but you surely must have noted that people lighter than normal are the group to openly mock and criticise these days (while "normal" would have been "slightly overweight" two decades ago).
 
2013-06-29 03:01:24 PM  

grokca: desertfool: Then there was an airline in Vietnam where the flight attendants had an impromptu bikini fashion show on a flight:

Please don't do that on Air Canada.


3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-29 03:03:59 PM  
LAN and Avianca usually have stunning stewardesses.

I had a part time gig in Colombia teaching basic english at a stewardess school, til the wife put the kaibosh on that.
 
2013-06-29 03:12:26 PM  
SoupJohnB: There have been numerous court rulings that support bona fide occupational qualifications, or BFOQs.  Meaning that you cannot be sued for turning down the job application from a blind person to be, let's say - a commercial airline pilot.

Doesn't really apply when the Federal Government gets to do the discrimination before the employer gets to it. Flight physicals can be a biatch if you've got any condition out of the ordinary. The pilots unions have enough sway to get the FAA to  bend the rules research and waiver things that tend to affect 40% of middle aged white guys, but anything outside that can be grounding in a heartbeat.

They don't generally give Class I medicals to blind guys.
 
2013-06-29 03:16:43 PM  
To be honest, the only crew I care about are the pilots and the mechanics.
 
2013-06-29 03:18:16 PM  

theflatline: LAN and Avianca usually have stunning stewardesses.


i105.photobucket.com
What a stunning stewardess might look like.
 
2013-06-29 03:19:34 PM  

Warlordtrooper: The difference in fuel cost between a heavy person and a light person is to insignificant to be measurable.


Perhaps on an individual basis but  measured over  a large number of sky-waitresses over a large number flights and the fuel use and corresponding environmental impact would be great.

We need to encourage this for the environment
 
2013-06-29 03:26:35 PM  
I wonder how much they'd save by getting rid of fat passengers.
 
2013-06-29 03:28:09 PM  
Fly southwest, where you will get some haggard chain smoking bull dyke going through menopause whose hips are so large she has to turn sideways to get through the aisle.
 
2013-06-29 03:30:32 PM  
Southwest used to do it right:

static.ddmcdn.com
 
2013-06-29 03:30:34 PM  
Almost all of the passport control staff at Ben Gurion airport are young Israeli women.
 
2013-06-29 03:31:20 PM  

mikaloyd: Why are sexy flight attendants a bad thing?


They make some of  the male (and female) passengers breathe too hard. Air also has weight. In fact, the air in an airplane might weigh more than the flight attendants.

They're breathing our air!
 
2013-06-29 03:32:41 PM  
www.theblindcard.com

Achieving a Goal ..

 
2013-06-29 03:35:38 PM  

jake3988: 10-20 pounds skinnier than normal times 5 is like a grand total of 100 pounds. Compared to the weight of the whole plane that's what... 8 cents worth of gas they'll save?


Yup, over dozens of planes and over entire year it adds up a lot. Roughly half a million dollars according to tfa.
 
2013-06-29 03:36:07 PM  
No farking shiat!? When did stewardesses stop being hot chicks (even if some of them were getting a little long in the tooth, they still held themselves together with a good old-fashioned calorie-restricted diet, Virginia Slims and Jazzercise) and turn into a bunch of lunch-ladies and balding gay dudes? I'm 40 on the dot, but I swear when I was a kid the air waitresses were all fairly attractive, skinny women. Seriously. What. The. Fark. Fewer Bruce's and Helgas, and more Bunnys and Heathers please.
 
2013-06-29 03:39:35 PM  

JesusJuice: gimmegimme: DO NOT WANT Poster Girl: Gah, give me a cute chipper flight attendant any day over the evil cranks that pass for FA nowadays. I've had run ins with rude FAs and they're Napoleans with wormwood and estrogen. No, chicken, you are not my boss for the duration of the flight. Give me my soda and GTF away.

Stewardesses are really safety compliance professionals.  They are there to enforce the FAA regulations that keep you safe.  For example, if you have your Kindle on during takeoff, you could easily take control of the plane.  If the plane takes a nosedive at 500 miles an hour, the stewardess' reminder to get into crash position could save your life.

I hollowed out a space in a hardback book to slip my kindle into. Read it throughout the flight with skybiatches none the wiser.




corthodoxy.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-29 03:43:25 PM  
I am going to go ahead and say that there is a useful purpose for thin flight attendants.  There's not a whole lot of extra space on the aisles of a plane to start with.
 
2013-06-29 03:44:18 PM  
Do you guys think maybe some day we'll become mature and competent enough to fetch our own drinks, tell ourselves it's time to turn off the approved portable electronic devices in preparation for landing?
 
2013-06-29 03:46:16 PM  

TommyDeuce: Mr. Coffee Nerves: The first airline to go All-Midget Flight Crew will soar to profitability heretofore unimagined.

Nah, child labor.

/Stop hiring twentysix year olds
//And hire twenty six-year olds


They can't reach the over head bins.

I thought of little people and child labour instantly, because I understand the economics and the airline mentality, but sadly, they are disqualfied because they are too short and often have breathing problems due to their internal organs being packed too tight, etc.

No, here's what you need"

1. Really skinny women who can:

a) maintain control of an airplane full of misbehaving British soccer hooligans;
b) carry and lift ten times their weight;
c) keep people in their seats even when the airplane is flying upside down through major turbulence
d) serve food and drinks to 700 people in 7 minutes.

In as few words as possible: little Chinese grandmothers.

They still can't reach the overhead bins, but they'll climb and stand on your head if necessary. That'll teach you to carry on bags that should be checked through. You'll have to fight them for you bags if you want to put them in the bin yourself to prevent damage.

When airlines have the steel balls to hire little Chinese grandmothers, nobody will be able to understand the sky waitress safety instructions, so we will all be equally sky cattle.

Of course the party will still be in First Class general seating and the First Class private cabins. And there will be a lot fewer Chinese restaurants. I assume the Lebanese and Pakistanis will complete their take-over of these.
 
2013-06-29 03:47:32 PM  

Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never encountered one of these mythical hot stewardesses. Just middle aged gay dudes and frumpy women.


Let me introduce you to the magical, mystical land of "Asia".
My Chicago-Hong Kong flight yesterday on Cathay Pacific was...nice. God damn.

My wife works for Cathay. I went to her interview in Bangkok when she was trying out.
600 Thai girls. Six were chosen.
Just imagine the scene at the hotel lobby where the interviews were taking place.

One of my fondest memories.
 
2013-06-29 03:47:38 PM  

Scaevola: Almost all of the passport control staff at Ben Gurion airport are young Israeli women.


With machine guns?
 
2013-06-29 03:48:58 PM  

serial_crusher: Do you guys think maybe some day we'll become mature and competent enough to fetch our own drinks, tell ourselves it's time to turn off the approved portable electronic devices in preparation for landing?


If we did, libertarianism would have already worked.
 
2013-06-29 03:50:39 PM  
You need a good dose of cynicism to fly nowadays. Plus some extra cynicism to keep your reserves from running low.

You'll know when you've got enough: you'll stay on the ground.
 
2013-06-29 03:53:29 PM  
www.eyeonspain.com
 
2013-06-29 03:53:30 PM  

ThinkingGuy: Interesting list from Patrick Smith showing the percentage of various planes' weight that that passengers comprise (crew is, of course, a small percentage of that percentage):
http://www.askthepilot.com/airfares-by-the-pound/


Yeah, like the average American weighs 190 pounds. Maybe the average fourth grader.
But you have a point. I have a counterpoint. The problem with fat people in the air isn't the force with which the earth attracts them. I honestly don't even notice that when I'm flying next to some sausage encased in 48" polyester trousers. What I do notice is, there's a limited amount of space in a plane, and the packing problem becomes non-trivial when you're talking about shoehorning zoo exhibits into that space.
The military makes perfectly good cargo planes. Those planes have lifts and winches and rollers and all the other accoutrements that would make flying convenient for fat people. Why do they need to be on passenger planes?
 
2013-06-29 03:56:52 PM  

FarkinHostile: CSB time:

In April of 2001 i went to flight attendant school in Dallas/Ft. Worth for American Airlines. In my class there were 19 women, 2 married men, a gay guy and me. Out of the 19 women, 3 were really hot, 5 were good looking, 4 were doable and the rest.....eh. The second day the hottest one confessed to me that she was a stripper while I was giving her a massage on my bed. A very good friend of mine is a chef in Dallas, I planned on hanging out with him at the restaurant, so I invited Cali to go with me. Told my friend Pete about her "She's a stripper? We're all gonna fark her!" I tell him I want to come in like that scene in Goodfellas where everybody knows Ray Loitta and they give him a special table, ect. So Cali and I arrive in a rented red convertible, I give the valet the secret word, and from that point it was "Mr. FarkinHostile! So good to see you!". Took us through the kitchen, everyone greeted me by name, it was totally cool. We get taken to the Chef Table, and the first thing Cali does is order a $200 bottle of wine. "Yikes", I think, and eventually the bill comes to almost $400. As I go for my wallet, Cali throws her sugar daddys credit card on the table. I tell her "This doesn't mean I'm going to sleep with you" We go out drinking with Pete and his roommate Andy, we hit Panteras strip club, we get all farked up. On the drive home, Andy has Calis shirt off and is sucking her tits. We go back to Petes place and proceed to gang bang her.

That was the third day. I was there for a month. Flight attendant school was crazy for a single straight dude.

/got shot at the last night
//farking Texas, man.


That...is just about the most awesome story I've ever read, bro.

/no seriously...that's farking awesome.
 
2013-06-29 03:59:17 PM  
RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

cdn3.independent.iesun.org.ua
 
2013-06-29 04:01:48 PM  

biscuitsngravy: No farking shiat!? When did stewardesses stop being hot chicks (even if some of them were getting a little long in the tooth, they still held themselves together with a good old-fashioned calorie-restricted diet, Virginia Slims and Jazzercise) and turn into a bunch of lunch-ladies and balding gay dudes? I'm 40 on the dot, but I swear when I was a kid the air waitresses were all fairly attractive, skinny women. Seriously. What. The. Fark. Fewer Bruce's and Helgas, and more Bunnys and Heathers please.


This.  I shall be 54 in nineteen days (hopefully), so I probably have more memories of the pretty stewardesses and their nice outfits from the "good ol' days".  I even remember when some commercial planes still had propellers.


/ I'll be in my bunk


/Oh, and btw, GET OFF MY LAWN!
 
2013-06-29 04:02:13 PM  

Great Janitor: I am going to go ahead and say that there is a useful purpose for thin flight attendants.  There's not a whole lot of extra space on the aisles of a plane to start with.


But if they're too thin, we're going to destroy the cheap thrill that horny teenage boys get when brushed by stewardess ass for the first time.
 
2013-06-29 04:06:33 PM  

qualtrough: speciaal: csb: future mother-in-law just had to fly home to Korea for a family emergency. I took her to the airport ( to try to help if there was any problems because she doesn't speak English very well). the counter of Asiana airlines had some of the most beautiful women at the counter. I jokingly mentioned this to the fiancee, and she told me that the flight attendants are even hotter on the airplane. she told me that they still have beauty standards on the planes there. weigh ins before the flight, forced retirement at 30ish, etc. I don't agree with the methods, but nothing wrong with eye candy on a 12+ hour flight.

Just about any Asian airline (Cathay, Thai, Singapore, EVA, Korea, etc. & etc.) will be staffed by extremely attractive women who somehow manage to suppress the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.


I used to teach flight attendant English in Japan and they do a good job if staying positive about the job all day every day in my experience. The worker-employer relationship is so fundamentally different in Asia it's best not to make assumptions about whose job sucks.
 
2013-06-29 04:07:55 PM  
There was a TV show called, "Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?"  So why not a luxury airline with unmarried stewardesses and stewards who are openly trolling for relationships and even marriage with their passengers?  Passengers could have bidding wars for taking them out on dates on arrival at their flight destination.  But the flight attendants would have the last say on accepting such bids.  All offers would be paid for before landing.  Resumes for attendants could be viewed by passengers.

Ideally, turnover for flight attendants would be very high, and the airline could make additional money running a mandatory flight attendant school.
 
2013-06-29 04:07:57 PM  

WhippingBoy: No goddammit. I've been to Korea 11 times and it's been Air Canada Every. Single. Time. Star Alliance, my ass.


Asiana is Star Alliance...

Some of the problem with long haul and ultra long haul on US (and Canadian?) carriers is that these are typically very senior routes. I flew Dulles-Bejing on Thursday and our flight didn't have a single attendant below 40 on board, perhaps even 45. Service was friendly and with a smile (in business, anyway) but there was not much to see in the sights department.
 
2013-06-29 04:08:41 PM  

The water was cold: I shall be 54 in nineteen days (hopefully), so I probably have more memories of the pretty stewardesses and their nice outfits from the "good ol' days". I even remember when some commercial planes still had propellers.


Hell, you probably remember when gates at the airport were actual gates in a fence.

/as do I.
 
2013-06-29 04:16:19 PM  

LonMead: RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

[cdn3.independent.ie image 257x342][sun.org.ua image 465x583]


The one on the right looks like she used to be a man...
 
2013-06-29 04:27:04 PM  

0Icky0: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never encountered one of these mythical hot stewardesses. Just middle aged gay dudes and frumpy women.

Let me introduce you to the magical, mystical land of "Asia".
My Chicago-Hong Kong flight yesterday on Cathay Pacific was...nice. God damn.

My wife works for Cathay. I went to her interview in Bangkok when she was trying out.
600 Thai girls. Six were chosen.
Just imagine the scene at the hotel lobby where the interviews were taking place.

One of my fondest memories.


Workin' on the railroad.
 
2013-06-29 04:29:43 PM  
Next week, I'm going to fly for the first time since Nov. 2001.  I suspect it's going to be like Woody Allen's "Sleeper."
 
2013-06-29 04:37:34 PM  

pxlboy: WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


They all fly with Porter now......
 
2013-06-29 04:41:32 PM  

EkimProx: Breast reduction surgery would make it lighter too.


RTFA. These women are Asian.
Speaking of Asia, there's some Thai (I think it's Thai) plane where the flight attendants are all young attractive transgendered women.
That's the place to be, IMO.
 
2013-06-29 04:42:33 PM  
a.imageshack.us
Approves...
 
2013-06-29 04:49:46 PM  
how do you say "no fat chicks" in Punjabi?

/or whatever language is common there?
 
2013-06-29 04:55:50 PM  
"Samoa Air last year became the first airline to charge fees according to weight".

Now THERE'S irony.
 
2013-06-29 05:00:19 PM  

WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


One of the hottest women I've ever seen was a flight attendant on an Air Canada flight between Atlanta and Toronto. But that's a Jazz flight so maybe it doesn't count. Seems that the more attractive flight attendants are on the smaller planes since those are the ones with the least experienced, and thus often youngest, crews.

/Ethiopian Airlines has surprisingly hot flight attendants.
//So does Emirates but that's no surprise
 
2013-06-29 05:05:10 PM  

BolshyGreatYarblocks: "Samoa Air last year became the first airline to charge fees according to weight".

Now THERE'S irony.


Man, those Samoans are surly bunch.
 
2013-06-29 05:19:41 PM  
I don't know about you guys (or rather, wish I didn't sometimes), but all I care is they be polite and helpful. Unfortunately, that's on 50/50 at best nowadays.
 
2013-06-29 05:24:59 PM  
I have flown with a couple of lard ass captains whose girth was so impressive it was impossible to move the flight controls through their entire range of motion. Weight aside, that is a safety hazard.

So make it the standard for everybody.
 
2013-06-29 05:25:29 PM  
Men who have a fetish for petite Asian girls tend to be socially awkward.
 
2013-06-29 05:27:12 PM  
Why not just use children, then?
 
2013-06-29 05:35:19 PM  
nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-29 05:40:26 PM  

gameshowhost: [banoosh.com image 634x510]
even lighter


I wondered what happened to the alien at he end of Close Encounters.



www.gonemovies.com
 
2013-06-29 05:45:57 PM  
I am sure I will get beat up for being so un-PC but...

1) The airlines mentioned are being 100% rational and reasonable.  As long as more weight costs the airlines more (which basic physics can assure you it always will) the logical thing for airlines to do is reduce weight where they can.  They absolutely should hire the lightest folks they can.  If males were on average lighter you can be sure they would be hiring them instead.  It is therefore not gender discrimination.

2) Not only should they hire small folks from a cost perspective but also from a space perspective.  Airliners are incredibly cramped with miniscule space between the aisles to push those carts down.  The space in the seating rows are even worse.  The last thing I want as a customer is some 300 lb fatty grinding his or her hips into my elbow every time they walk by or leaning an ample belly into my face to reach over me and hand the customer in the middle a drink.

3) Charging passengers based on weight (bags + passenger) would be the absolute most fair and reasonable way to charge.  It is a simple fact of physics.  The heavier the load the more fuel will be burned.  It is blatantly unfair to force a person who inherently costs less to transport to pay more than his/her fair share to cover the folks that cost more to move.  Before you get all pissy realize that this doesn't favor me at all.  I am a 200 lb male and would no doubt pay more than I currently do.  That is fine with me.  A rational cost structure is more important than the cost to one particular person.  Besides, I could always lose some weight if I was really bothered by the cost.  Yet another reason to charge based on weight; it would incentivize folks that fly a lot to lose some weight (clearly needed here in the US).
 
2013-06-29 06:04:44 PM  

Ima4nic8or: I am sure I will get beat up for being so un-PC but...

1) The airlines mentioned are being 100% rational and reasonable.  As long as more weight costs the airlines more (which basic physics can assure you it always will) the logical thing for airlines to do is reduce weight where they can.  They absolutely should hire the lightest folks they can.  If males were on average lighter you can be sure they would be hiring them instead.  It is therefore not gender discrimination.

2) Not only should they hire small folks from a cost perspective but also from a space perspective.  Airliners are incredibly cramped with miniscule space between the aisles to push those carts down.  The space in the seating rows are even worse.  The last thing I want as a customer is some 300 lb fatty grinding his or her hips into my elbow every time they walk by or leaning an ample belly into my face to reach over me and hand the customer in the middle a drink.

3) Charging passengers based on weight (bags + passenger) would be the absolute most fair and reasonable way to charge.  It is a simple fact of physics.  The heavier the load the more fuel will be burned.  It is blatantly unfair to force a person who inherently costs less to transport to pay more than his/her fair share to cover the folks that cost more to move.  Before you get all pissy realize that this doesn't favor me at all.  I am a 200 lb male and would no doubt pay more than I currently do.  That is fine with me.  A rational cost structure is more important than the cost to one particular person.  Besides, I could always lose some weight if I was really bothered by the cost.  Yet another reason to charge based on weight; it would incentivize folks that fly a lot to lose some weight (clearly needed here in the US).



Your logical arguments have no place here!

Seriously though, if it weren't so un-PC, that's a great idea.  As someone who works in the aviation industry, with the biggest focus on SFC, I can tell you that any time we can save even 5 lbs. in weight on our product, the airlines love us.
 
2013-06-29 06:39:23 PM  

Ima4nic8or: They absolutely should hire the lightest folks they can.  If males were on average lighter you can be sure they would be hiring them instead.  It is therefore not gender discrimination.


No, it's still unnecessary discrimination because they could just measure weight directly and only exclude the particular individuals who failed to meet job-related standards, rather than excluding a whole class of people based on a classification that's only loosely correlated with the stated goal.
 
2013-06-29 06:46:03 PM  

Ima4nic8or: Charging passengers based on weight (bags + passenger) would be the absolute most fair and reasonable way to charge.


Except it doesn't account for the discrete seating of most passenger planes -- the seats don't get bigger just because you paid more/weigh more.

If someone came up with a plan to let you buy plane fare by weight & volume I'd be all for it. But selling either one of those incrementally and the other discretely creates significant inefficiencies, and I'd argue that given the actual lifting capacity of the plane vs. the volume available for and density of passengers, the limiting factor must be space not weight.
 
2013-06-29 06:48:46 PM  

profplump: Except it doesn't account for the discrete seating of most passenger planes -- the seats don't get bigger just because you paid more/weigh more.


Except that it becomes perfectly acceptable to plop your fat 350# ass in two seats that normally would be occupied by two 175# people. You've paid by the cubic foot too.
 
2013-06-29 06:51:55 PM  

EkimProx: Breast reduction surgery would make it lighter too.


Now you shut your damn mouth!
 
2013-06-29 07:07:05 PM  

FarkinHostile: CSB time:



Brilliant CSB.
 
2013-06-29 07:29:16 PM  

grokca: desertfool: Then there was an airline in Vietnam where the flight attendants had an impromptu bikini fashion show on a flight:

Please don't do that on Air Canada.


No fear.  I don't think it's "impromptu" when all the bikinis match.

/am totally okay with impromptu bikini shows
//also the ones planned by corporate headquarters
 
2013-06-29 07:37:22 PM  

rumpelstiltskin: ThinkingGuy: Interesting list from Patrick Smith showing the percentage of various planes' weight that that passengers comprise (crew is, of course, a small percentage of that percentage):
http://www.askthepilot.com/airfares-by-the-pound/

Yeah, like the average American weighs 190 pounds. Maybe the average fourth grader.
But you have a point. I have a counterpoint. The problem with fat people in the air isn't the force with which the earth attracts them. I honestly don't even notice that when I'm flying next to some sausage encased in 48" polyester trousers. What I do notice is, there's a limited amount of space in a plane, and the packing problem becomes non-trivial when you're talking about shoehorning zoo exhibits into that space.
The military makes perfectly good cargo planes. Those planes have lifts and winches and rollers and all the other accoutrements that would make flying convenient for fat people. Why do they need to be on passenger planes?


You remember that recent cargo plane crash that got filmed and uploaded to youtube?  Cargo straps come loose during takeoff, large military equipment starts moving around, plane freaking rotates in midair and noses into a firey crash?

Now imagine a bunch of Walmart-Americans trying to shuffle around their mobility scooters -- of COURSE they're still in the scooters, its their God-given right to move about whenever they want, Glenn Beck done told them so, ain't no commie Obama flight attendant gonna say no different -- during the takeoff.
 
2013-06-29 07:39:20 PM  

JesusJuice: LonMead: RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

[cdn3.independent.ie image 257x342][sun.org.ua image 465x583]

The one on the right looks like she used to be a man...


Hey, whatever floats your boat, dude.  That one in the middle for me!
 
2013-06-29 07:47:52 PM  

Dear Jerk: What's this $7 excess weight flight attendant fee?



Oh, you got booked into the morbidly-obese-grandfather-claused-union-protected-senior-citizen section. Better luck next time!
 
2013-06-29 08:21:14 PM  
www.cooleywire.com
 
2013-06-29 08:35:46 PM  

LonMead: RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

[cdn3.independent.ie image 257x342][sun.org.ua image 465x583]


Ryanair let its pilots go and rehired them as independent contractors. Who are not allowed to fly for any other airline. A pretty raw deal overall.

Increasingly, pilots who fly for Ryanair are the ones who haven't been able to get a job with another airline.

This 19 year old who was just hired for Ryanair is kind of a case in point for this.

They like to pretend that flying is no different than driving a bus. But if there's a problem in flight, you can't just pull over.
 
2013-06-29 09:09:43 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity


Nope. You got that mixed up with liberals (aka Fark progressives)
 
2013-06-29 09:28:23 PM  

Barfmaker: FarkinHostile: CSB time:


Brilliant CSB.


AA laid off all of the provisional flight attendants immediately after 9/11. I fear his area as an fly stud was very short lived.
 
2013-06-29 09:53:21 PM  
The last thing I want as a customer is some 300 lb fatty grinding his or her hips into my elbow every time they walk by or leaning an ample belly into my face to reach over me and hand the customer in the middle a drink.

www.socaltrailriders.org
 
2013-06-29 10:07:07 PM  

Warlordtrooper: The difference in fuel cost between a heavy person and a light person is to insignificant to be measurable.


what about the difference between 250 heavy people and 250 light people?
 
2013-06-29 10:07:22 PM  
af11.files.wordpress.com

Mister Late-to-the-game Harry has to do ebverything
 
2013-06-29 10:34:18 PM  

PizzaJedi81: Shakes: [i1143.photobucket.com image 340x337]

I'd like to fly over her peaks, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.


bombs awaaaaaaaayyy !!
 
2013-06-29 10:36:11 PM  

LewDux: Quick, somebody depress gimmegimme


Zimmerman is going to be not guilty.
 
2013-06-29 10:45:54 PM  

HighlanderRPI: [www.cooleywire.com image 492x503]


I and a few others tried to get the party started, but many wanted to talk about fat people. Sorry. Fark just ain't the same anymore.
 
2013-06-29 10:58:04 PM  
A flight I was on last week, the flight attendant on landing at JFK said "thank you for flying TWA".  TWA went out of business 12 years ago and she had flown for them for enough years to automatically say TWA.

/the funny part is I was on jetBlue, whose terminal is right behind the famous old TWA Flight Center
//the historic Pan Am Worldport started being torn down last week :(
 
2013-06-29 10:59:44 PM  
www.maykool.com
 
2013-06-29 11:13:31 PM  

Nutsac_Jim: [www.maykool.com image 465x712]


I'd fly that for a dollar.
 
2013-06-30 12:14:37 AM  
www.mardecortesbaja.com
/hot
 
2013-06-30 01:26:23 AM  

LonMead: BolshyGreatYarblocks: "Samoa Air last year became the first airline to charge fees according to weight".

Now THERE'S irony.

Man, those Samoans are surly bunch.


Margaret Mead approved!
 
2013-06-30 03:53:22 AM  
I propose a mandatory federal pricing plan based on the weight of passengers and their baggage. Say the base ticket is 10 cents per mile. Then a customer/baggage weight surcharge is added at maybe 10 cents per pound. Now to make it interesting, there should also be age/weight rebates for every sky waitress on the flight, say $1 for every year over 30 and $1 for every BMI point over ideal for their height/weight. Also a $10 rebate for any male FA and another $50 for "bad attitude"

A couple of flights where the airline had to PAY OUT money to customers and I guarantee that every flight would be staffed by hot, bubbly 20-year-olds.

When I am king of everything, this will be among my first decrees.
 
2013-06-30 04:34:17 PM  

Kyosuke: Except that it becomes perfectly acceptable to plop your fat 350# ass in two seats that normally would be occupied by two 175# people. You've paid by the cubic foot too.


Like I said, it's sub-optimal in both directions.

But just look at the layout of planes, where even people within 1 std. dev. of mean for weight and height literally don't fit comfortably into the allotted seat space -- seriously, the seats are designed to force your shoulders to overlap -- and you'll clearly see that in current configurations passenger planes space is at a higher premium than weight.

Also, if your hips don't fit inside a single seat -- the most constrained dimension of seating on most planes -- most airlines already require you to buy two seats.
 
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