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(CNN)   Sure it's discriminatory to hire only hot, skinny, nubile women as flight attendants. Sure it may have been previously found illegal. But it saves fuel, dammit. So bring the hot flight attendants back   (edition.cnn.com) divider line 154
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2013-06-29 03:53:29 PM
www.eyeonspain.com
 
2013-06-29 03:53:30 PM

ThinkingGuy: Interesting list from Patrick Smith showing the percentage of various planes' weight that that passengers comprise (crew is, of course, a small percentage of that percentage):
http://www.askthepilot.com/airfares-by-the-pound/


Yeah, like the average American weighs 190 pounds. Maybe the average fourth grader.
But you have a point. I have a counterpoint. The problem with fat people in the air isn't the force with which the earth attracts them. I honestly don't even notice that when I'm flying next to some sausage encased in 48" polyester trousers. What I do notice is, there's a limited amount of space in a plane, and the packing problem becomes non-trivial when you're talking about shoehorning zoo exhibits into that space.
The military makes perfectly good cargo planes. Those planes have lifts and winches and rollers and all the other accoutrements that would make flying convenient for fat people. Why do they need to be on passenger planes?
 
2013-06-29 03:56:52 PM

FarkinHostile: CSB time:

In April of 2001 i went to flight attendant school in Dallas/Ft. Worth for American Airlines. In my class there were 19 women, 2 married men, a gay guy and me. Out of the 19 women, 3 were really hot, 5 were good looking, 4 were doable and the rest.....eh. The second day the hottest one confessed to me that she was a stripper while I was giving her a massage on my bed. A very good friend of mine is a chef in Dallas, I planned on hanging out with him at the restaurant, so I invited Cali to go with me. Told my friend Pete about her "She's a stripper? We're all gonna fark her!" I tell him I want to come in like that scene in Goodfellas where everybody knows Ray Loitta and they give him a special table, ect. So Cali and I arrive in a rented red convertible, I give the valet the secret word, and from that point it was "Mr. FarkinHostile! So good to see you!". Took us through the kitchen, everyone greeted me by name, it was totally cool. We get taken to the Chef Table, and the first thing Cali does is order a $200 bottle of wine. "Yikes", I think, and eventually the bill comes to almost $400. As I go for my wallet, Cali throws her sugar daddys credit card on the table. I tell her "This doesn't mean I'm going to sleep with you" We go out drinking with Pete and his roommate Andy, we hit Panteras strip club, we get all farked up. On the drive home, Andy has Calis shirt off and is sucking her tits. We go back to Petes place and proceed to gang bang her.

That was the third day. I was there for a month. Flight attendant school was crazy for a single straight dude.

/got shot at the last night
//farking Texas, man.


That...is just about the most awesome story I've ever read, bro.

/no seriously...that's farking awesome.
 
2013-06-29 03:59:17 PM
RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

cdn3.independent.iesun.org.ua
 
2013-06-29 04:01:48 PM

biscuitsngravy: No farking shiat!? When did stewardesses stop being hot chicks (even if some of them were getting a little long in the tooth, they still held themselves together with a good old-fashioned calorie-restricted diet, Virginia Slims and Jazzercise) and turn into a bunch of lunch-ladies and balding gay dudes? I'm 40 on the dot, but I swear when I was a kid the air waitresses were all fairly attractive, skinny women. Seriously. What. The. Fark. Fewer Bruce's and Helgas, and more Bunnys and Heathers please.


This.  I shall be 54 in nineteen days (hopefully), so I probably have more memories of the pretty stewardesses and their nice outfits from the "good ol' days".  I even remember when some commercial planes still had propellers.


/ I'll be in my bunk


/Oh, and btw, GET OFF MY LAWN!
 
2013-06-29 04:02:13 PM

Great Janitor: I am going to go ahead and say that there is a useful purpose for thin flight attendants.  There's not a whole lot of extra space on the aisles of a plane to start with.


But if they're too thin, we're going to destroy the cheap thrill that horny teenage boys get when brushed by stewardess ass for the first time.
 
2013-06-29 04:06:33 PM

qualtrough: speciaal: csb: future mother-in-law just had to fly home to Korea for a family emergency. I took her to the airport ( to try to help if there was any problems because she doesn't speak English very well). the counter of Asiana airlines had some of the most beautiful women at the counter. I jokingly mentioned this to the fiancee, and she told me that the flight attendants are even hotter on the airplane. she told me that they still have beauty standards on the planes there. weigh ins before the flight, forced retirement at 30ish, etc. I don't agree with the methods, but nothing wrong with eye candy on a 12+ hour flight.

Just about any Asian airline (Cathay, Thai, Singapore, EVA, Korea, etc. & etc.) will be staffed by extremely attractive women who somehow manage to suppress the feelings of extreme bitterness that a lot of Western flight attendants seem to have.


I used to teach flight attendant English in Japan and they do a good job if staying positive about the job all day every day in my experience. The worker-employer relationship is so fundamentally different in Asia it's best not to make assumptions about whose job sucks.
 
2013-06-29 04:07:55 PM
There was a TV show called, "Who Wants To Marry A Millionaire?"  So why not a luxury airline with unmarried stewardesses and stewards who are openly trolling for relationships and even marriage with their passengers?  Passengers could have bidding wars for taking them out on dates on arrival at their flight destination.  But the flight attendants would have the last say on accepting such bids.  All offers would be paid for before landing.  Resumes for attendants could be viewed by passengers.

Ideally, turnover for flight attendants would be very high, and the airline could make additional money running a mandatory flight attendant school.
 
2013-06-29 04:07:57 PM

WhippingBoy: No goddammit. I've been to Korea 11 times and it's been Air Canada Every. Single. Time. Star Alliance, my ass.


Asiana is Star Alliance...

Some of the problem with long haul and ultra long haul on US (and Canadian?) carriers is that these are typically very senior routes. I flew Dulles-Bejing on Thursday and our flight didn't have a single attendant below 40 on board, perhaps even 45. Service was friendly and with a smile (in business, anyway) but there was not much to see in the sights department.
 
2013-06-29 04:08:41 PM

The water was cold: I shall be 54 in nineteen days (hopefully), so I probably have more memories of the pretty stewardesses and their nice outfits from the "good ol' days". I even remember when some commercial planes still had propellers.


Hell, you probably remember when gates at the airport were actual gates in a fence.

/as do I.
 
2013-06-29 04:16:19 PM

LonMead: RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

[cdn3.independent.ie image 257x342][sun.org.ua image 465x583]


The one on the right looks like she used to be a man...
 
2013-06-29 04:27:04 PM

0Icky0: Dow Jones and the Temple of Doom: I've never encountered one of these mythical hot stewardesses. Just middle aged gay dudes and frumpy women.

Let me introduce you to the magical, mystical land of "Asia".
My Chicago-Hong Kong flight yesterday on Cathay Pacific was...nice. God damn.

My wife works for Cathay. I went to her interview in Bangkok when she was trying out.
600 Thai girls. Six were chosen.
Just imagine the scene at the hotel lobby where the interviews were taking place.

One of my fondest memories.


Workin' on the railroad.
 
2013-06-29 04:29:43 PM
Next week, I'm going to fly for the first time since Nov. 2001.  I suspect it's going to be like Woody Allen's "Sleeper."
 
2013-06-29 04:37:34 PM

pxlboy: WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


They all fly with Porter now......
 
2013-06-29 04:41:32 PM

EkimProx: Breast reduction surgery would make it lighter too.


RTFA. These women are Asian.
Speaking of Asia, there's some Thai (I think it's Thai) plane where the flight attendants are all young attractive transgendered women.
That's the place to be, IMO.
 
2013-06-29 04:42:33 PM
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Approves...
 
2013-06-29 04:49:46 PM
how do you say "no fat chicks" in Punjabi?

/or whatever language is common there?
 
2013-06-29 04:55:50 PM
"Samoa Air last year became the first airline to charge fees according to weight".

Now THERE'S irony.
 
2013-06-29 05:00:19 PM

WhippingBoy: I fly Air Canada. I can assure you, there's no such thing as a young, hot air waitress.


One of the hottest women I've ever seen was a flight attendant on an Air Canada flight between Atlanta and Toronto. But that's a Jazz flight so maybe it doesn't count. Seems that the more attractive flight attendants are on the smaller planes since those are the ones with the least experienced, and thus often youngest, crews.

/Ethiopian Airlines has surprisingly hot flight attendants.
//So does Emirates but that's no surprise
 
2013-06-29 05:05:10 PM

BolshyGreatYarblocks: "Samoa Air last year became the first airline to charge fees according to weight".

Now THERE'S irony.


Man, those Samoans are surly bunch.
 
2013-06-29 05:19:41 PM
I don't know about you guys (or rather, wish I didn't sometimes), but all I care is they be polite and helpful. Unfortunately, that's on 50/50 at best nowadays.
 
2013-06-29 05:24:59 PM
I have flown with a couple of lard ass captains whose girth was so impressive it was impossible to move the flight controls through their entire range of motion. Weight aside, that is a safety hazard.

So make it the standard for everybody.
 
2013-06-29 05:25:29 PM
Men who have a fetish for petite Asian girls tend to be socially awkward.
 
2013-06-29 05:27:12 PM
Why not just use children, then?
 
2013-06-29 05:35:19 PM
nyoobserver.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-06-29 05:40:26 PM

gameshowhost: [banoosh.com image 634x510]
even lighter


I wondered what happened to the alien at he end of Close Encounters.



www.gonemovies.com
 
2013-06-29 05:45:57 PM
I am sure I will get beat up for being so un-PC but...

1) The airlines mentioned are being 100% rational and reasonable.  As long as more weight costs the airlines more (which basic physics can assure you it always will) the logical thing for airlines to do is reduce weight where they can.  They absolutely should hire the lightest folks they can.  If males were on average lighter you can be sure they would be hiring them instead.  It is therefore not gender discrimination.

2) Not only should they hire small folks from a cost perspective but also from a space perspective.  Airliners are incredibly cramped with miniscule space between the aisles to push those carts down.  The space in the seating rows are even worse.  The last thing I want as a customer is some 300 lb fatty grinding his or her hips into my elbow every time they walk by or leaning an ample belly into my face to reach over me and hand the customer in the middle a drink.

3) Charging passengers based on weight (bags + passenger) would be the absolute most fair and reasonable way to charge.  It is a simple fact of physics.  The heavier the load the more fuel will be burned.  It is blatantly unfair to force a person who inherently costs less to transport to pay more than his/her fair share to cover the folks that cost more to move.  Before you get all pissy realize that this doesn't favor me at all.  I am a 200 lb male and would no doubt pay more than I currently do.  That is fine with me.  A rational cost structure is more important than the cost to one particular person.  Besides, I could always lose some weight if I was really bothered by the cost.  Yet another reason to charge based on weight; it would incentivize folks that fly a lot to lose some weight (clearly needed here in the US).
 
2013-06-29 06:04:44 PM

Ima4nic8or: I am sure I will get beat up for being so un-PC but...

1) The airlines mentioned are being 100% rational and reasonable.  As long as more weight costs the airlines more (which basic physics can assure you it always will) the logical thing for airlines to do is reduce weight where they can.  They absolutely should hire the lightest folks they can.  If males were on average lighter you can be sure they would be hiring them instead.  It is therefore not gender discrimination.

2) Not only should they hire small folks from a cost perspective but also from a space perspective.  Airliners are incredibly cramped with miniscule space between the aisles to push those carts down.  The space in the seating rows are even worse.  The last thing I want as a customer is some 300 lb fatty grinding his or her hips into my elbow every time they walk by or leaning an ample belly into my face to reach over me and hand the customer in the middle a drink.

3) Charging passengers based on weight (bags + passenger) would be the absolute most fair and reasonable way to charge.  It is a simple fact of physics.  The heavier the load the more fuel will be burned.  It is blatantly unfair to force a person who inherently costs less to transport to pay more than his/her fair share to cover the folks that cost more to move.  Before you get all pissy realize that this doesn't favor me at all.  I am a 200 lb male and would no doubt pay more than I currently do.  That is fine with me.  A rational cost structure is more important than the cost to one particular person.  Besides, I could always lose some weight if I was really bothered by the cost.  Yet another reason to charge based on weight; it would incentivize folks that fly a lot to lose some weight (clearly needed here in the US).



Your logical arguments have no place here!

Seriously though, if it weren't so un-PC, that's a great idea.  As someone who works in the aviation industry, with the biggest focus on SFC, I can tell you that any time we can save even 5 lbs. in weight on our product, the airlines love us.
 
2013-06-29 06:39:23 PM

Ima4nic8or: They absolutely should hire the lightest folks they can.  If males were on average lighter you can be sure they would be hiring them instead.  It is therefore not gender discrimination.


No, it's still unnecessary discrimination because they could just measure weight directly and only exclude the particular individuals who failed to meet job-related standards, rather than excluding a whole class of people based on a classification that's only loosely correlated with the stated goal.
 
2013-06-29 06:46:03 PM

Ima4nic8or: Charging passengers based on weight (bags + passenger) would be the absolute most fair and reasonable way to charge.


Except it doesn't account for the discrete seating of most passenger planes -- the seats don't get bigger just because you paid more/weigh more.

If someone came up with a plan to let you buy plane fare by weight & volume I'd be all for it. But selling either one of those incrementally and the other discretely creates significant inefficiencies, and I'd argue that given the actual lifting capacity of the plane vs. the volume available for and density of passengers, the limiting factor must be space not weight.
 
2013-06-29 06:48:46 PM

profplump: Except it doesn't account for the discrete seating of most passenger planes -- the seats don't get bigger just because you paid more/weigh more.


Except that it becomes perfectly acceptable to plop your fat 350# ass in two seats that normally would be occupied by two 175# people. You've paid by the cubic foot too.
 
2013-06-29 06:51:55 PM

EkimProx: Breast reduction surgery would make it lighter too.


Now you shut your damn mouth!
 
2013-06-29 07:07:05 PM

FarkinHostile: CSB time:



Brilliant CSB.
 
2013-06-29 07:29:16 PM

grokca: desertfool: Then there was an airline in Vietnam where the flight attendants had an impromptu bikini fashion show on a flight:

Please don't do that on Air Canada.


No fear.  I don't think it's "impromptu" when all the bikinis match.

/am totally okay with impromptu bikini shows
//also the ones planned by corporate headquarters
 
2013-06-29 07:37:22 PM

rumpelstiltskin: ThinkingGuy: Interesting list from Patrick Smith showing the percentage of various planes' weight that that passengers comprise (crew is, of course, a small percentage of that percentage):
http://www.askthepilot.com/airfares-by-the-pound/

Yeah, like the average American weighs 190 pounds. Maybe the average fourth grader.
But you have a point. I have a counterpoint. The problem with fat people in the air isn't the force with which the earth attracts them. I honestly don't even notice that when I'm flying next to some sausage encased in 48" polyester trousers. What I do notice is, there's a limited amount of space in a plane, and the packing problem becomes non-trivial when you're talking about shoehorning zoo exhibits into that space.
The military makes perfectly good cargo planes. Those planes have lifts and winches and rollers and all the other accoutrements that would make flying convenient for fat people. Why do they need to be on passenger planes?


You remember that recent cargo plane crash that got filmed and uploaded to youtube?  Cargo straps come loose during takeoff, large military equipment starts moving around, plane freaking rotates in midair and noses into a firey crash?

Now imagine a bunch of Walmart-Americans trying to shuffle around their mobility scooters -- of COURSE they're still in the scooters, its their God-given right to move about whenever they want, Glenn Beck done told them so, ain't no commie Obama flight attendant gonna say no different -- during the takeoff.
 
2013-06-29 07:39:20 PM

JesusJuice: LonMead: RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

[cdn3.independent.ie image 257x342][sun.org.ua image 465x583]

The one on the right looks like she used to be a man...


Hey, whatever floats your boat, dude.  That one in the middle for me!
 
2013-06-29 07:47:52 PM

Dear Jerk: What's this $7 excess weight flight attendant fee?



Oh, you got booked into the morbidly-obese-grandfather-claused-union-protected-senior-citizen section. Better luck next time!
 
2013-06-29 08:21:14 PM
www.cooleywire.com
 
2013-06-29 08:35:46 PM

LonMead: RyanAir knows how to get ready for a flight!

[cdn3.independent.ie image 257x342][sun.org.ua image 465x583]


Ryanair let its pilots go and rehired them as independent contractors. Who are not allowed to fly for any other airline. A pretty raw deal overall.

Increasingly, pilots who fly for Ryanair are the ones who haven't been able to get a job with another airline.

This 19 year old who was just hired for Ryanair is kind of a case in point for this.

They like to pretend that flying is no different than driving a bus. But if there's a problem in flight, you can't just pull over.
 
2013-06-29 09:09:43 PM

Pumpernickel bread: I didn't know "fat" was a proteced class. I always thought they were the last group left that we could openly mock with impunity


Nope. You got that mixed up with liberals (aka Fark progressives)
 
2013-06-29 09:28:23 PM

Barfmaker: FarkinHostile: CSB time:


Brilliant CSB.


AA laid off all of the provisional flight attendants immediately after 9/11. I fear his area as an fly stud was very short lived.
 
2013-06-29 09:53:21 PM
The last thing I want as a customer is some 300 lb fatty grinding his or her hips into my elbow every time they walk by or leaning an ample belly into my face to reach over me and hand the customer in the middle a drink.

www.socaltrailriders.org
 
2013-06-29 10:07:07 PM

Warlordtrooper: The difference in fuel cost between a heavy person and a light person is to insignificant to be measurable.


what about the difference between 250 heavy people and 250 light people?
 
2013-06-29 10:07:22 PM
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Mister Late-to-the-game Harry has to do ebverything
 
2013-06-29 10:34:18 PM

PizzaJedi81: Shakes: [i1143.photobucket.com image 340x337]

I'd like to fly over her peaks, if ya know what I mean, and I think you do.


bombs awaaaaaaaayyy !!
 
2013-06-29 10:36:11 PM

LewDux: Quick, somebody depress gimmegimme


Zimmerman is going to be not guilty.
 
2013-06-29 10:45:54 PM

HighlanderRPI: [www.cooleywire.com image 492x503]


I and a few others tried to get the party started, but many wanted to talk about fat people. Sorry. Fark just ain't the same anymore.
 
2013-06-29 10:58:04 PM
A flight I was on last week, the flight attendant on landing at JFK said "thank you for flying TWA".  TWA went out of business 12 years ago and she had flown for them for enough years to automatically say TWA.

/the funny part is I was on jetBlue, whose terminal is right behind the famous old TWA Flight Center
//the historic Pan Am Worldport started being torn down last week :(
 
2013-06-29 10:59:44 PM
www.maykool.com
 
2013-06-29 11:13:31 PM

Nutsac_Jim: [www.maykool.com image 465x712]


I'd fly that for a dollar.
 
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