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2013-06-29 11:42:03 AM
4 votes:
My experience leads me to believe that HOAs exist to give society's biggest losers the chance to control others.
2013-06-29 10:52:08 AM
3 votes:

2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


Unless you're living out in the sticks where your nearest neighbor is miles away, you don't need an HOA to protect you from such neighbors; standard zoning and maintenance codes would be sufficient to deal with a hoarder who's allowing his yard to turn into a vermin utopia.
2013-06-29 11:47:39 AM
2 votes:

ChaosStar: Said I would never live under a HOA.
Found a house that would let us walk into $25K in equity if we got it at asking price.
Under a rules and covenants to be turned into a HOA
/sigh

At least there is no real enforcement.. yet..


Get on the board and try to push a vote to have it disbanded.
2013-06-29 11:07:46 AM
2 votes:

iheartscotch: A state regulatory agency doesn't seem like a bad idea now; but, what happens when it is a bloated, nepotistic autocracy?

/ Just like everything in Florida.


Then HOAs can't function and are effectively shut down? Still not seeing the downside.
2013-06-29 10:52:46 AM
2 votes:

2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


Most cities have codes for those kinds of things. Might be a bit more hassle getting the town involved than just a bored homeowner with an authority boner, though.
2013-06-29 10:10:09 AM
2 votes:
I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?
2013-06-29 09:24:37 AM
2 votes:
Wow.  Governor Lurch actually signed a bill that's not totally f*cking retarded.
2013-06-29 11:04:17 AM
1 votes:

2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


Just because there is no HOA to prevent such a thing from happening, does mean that it will happen.  The house I live in now has no HOA...my guess is that it was one of the last communities built in this area without one (~12 year old house).  It's a nice neighborhood...mid to low middle class.

Do some people not take good care of their lawns?  Absolutely.  Do some people store RVs and boats in their driveway.  Absolutely.

Do any of these things materially impact my home value...*maybe* a little bit, but not to the extent that I would want to fall under an HOA to recover.

For a single family neighborhood, HOAs are an overkill solution to minor problems.  They have uses, and they can be necessary in high density communities, but their use for EVERY new community is pretty crazy.
2013-06-29 10:59:49 AM
1 votes:
Yeah, not too happy with some of the HOA and COA shenanigans. This IS a good start.
2013-06-29 10:47:11 AM
1 votes:

2wolves: Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


No, that's why I live where I live. I understand the intent of the HOA, but I found it much nicer to just live in a neighborhood where people give a sh*t about their homes because of concern over their own property values.

I know some people can't do that, and hopefully new laws like this can at least protect homeowners in HOAs from the really stupid bylaws or whatever the f*ck they are. I don't want to see old water heaters and a Camaro on blocks, but these laws about house color, flags, etc... Just stupid. The only time that really matters is in areas like our Historic Hill. Those are all historic homes and you have to get approval on any changes or major renovations. But, they don't say you can't fly a flag or any of that other crap, well except for color of house I think.

Just not a huge fan of the HOA model.
2013-06-29 10:40:14 AM
1 votes:

NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?


Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-29 09:03:03 AM
1 votes:
I suppose the ban on liens also ends the practice of selling a unit for pennies on the dollar to a friend of the HOA president.
 
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