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(Click Orlando)   The rise and fall of neighborhood dictatorships   (clickorlando.com) divider line 62
    More: Florida, Jan Bergmann, dictatorships, professional regulation, HOA, Osceola County, Florida law  
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2013-06-29 02:38:23 PM  

NewportBarGuy: buzzcut73: You're helping make his point. Do you know how McMansions built with cheap materials and slapped together in the shortest time possible would fit on just one of those plots? Think of the profits!!

/This is how developers think

Do you know that most of them were abandoned when they invented property taxes? Doris Duke along with the Newport Restoration Foundation and Newport Preservation Society bought/took ownership of lots of houses and the mansions and fixed them up for tours. They are a huge part of our tourism draw. By doing that, they probably prevented a bunch of smaller mini mansions from being built and maintained a tourism draw to help support the local economy. Sure, they can be a pain in the ass about some stuff here and there, but I'm really glad they protect what makes this place function. Well, that and booze and food. That's good too.


This is the key here, not to ment

NewportBarGuy: ChaosStar: If you want to slow down the economy and infrastructure of an area, put a historic society on it.

Wait, what?

[i44.tinypic.com image 600x401]

"Help! We're homeless and penniless!"

I know they can be a pain in the ass, but they really helped create (maintain) this amazing place.


In contrast, in Columbia SC there's a old warehouse that has been used for self storage as long as anyone can remember. It has no real key historic value, it's a wreck inside, a fire hazard, and would cost a small fortune to restore. Instead of letting a contractor buy it to put (badly needed) student housing for USC up, the local historical liberals whined and complained until the city council bought it to the tune of a cool $7mil taxpayer dollars. Those dollars were taken from the city's $42.8 million reserve account used to cover long-term health care benefits for about 2,600 current and future Columbia retirees.
 
2013-06-29 02:42:42 PM  

smittyrn: buzzcut73:

/why does it always have to be the Germans?

I live in Germany for a few years. They don't need a HOA, the local government acts as one. Those little towns are the prettiest, cleanest places I've seen, and it's because laws like you can't have a non-working car out front, you have to cut your grass, you have to wash the OUTSIDE of your windows, and you as a homeowner are even responsible for keeping the gutter in front of your property cleaned. And you can't do any of that on a Sunday.


Wish my "rednecky" part of town was more Germanic....
 
2013-06-29 04:12:11 PM  

Mandapants: 2wolves:Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?

Please tell me you were autocorrected by your phone.

/whose
//who's
///hoose, eh


no, that makes sense.  How high are a giraffe's knees?

The grammar is just a bit bent.
 
2013-06-29 04:23:05 PM  

ChaosStar: In contrast, in Columbia SC there's a old warehouse that has been used for self storage as long as anyone can remember. It has no real key historic value, it's a wreck inside, a fire hazard, and would cost a small fortune to restore. Instead of letting a contractor buy it to put (badly needed) student housing for USC up, the local historical liberals whined and complained until the city council bought it to the tune of a cool $7mil taxpayer dollars. Those dollars were taken from the city's $42.8 million reserve account used to cover long-term health care benefits for about 2,600 current and future Columbia retirees.


That is a perfect example of them screwing things up. If I lived there, I'd do what I could to have fought against it, or fix it after they bought it by figuring out a way to recoup that money. Those situations are when they are in over their head, have no idea what they are doing, and need to ask responsible town people what the best thing is to do with the property. With what they can do with facades these days, I'm sure they could find a contractor to make student housing that would blend into the area.
 
2013-06-29 05:00:30 PM  
I've lived in 2 HOA's and I've never experienced this so called evil dictatorship that everyone talks about.  Maybe I just don't have the need to do anything outrageous to my place that would involve the HOA, but they've never been an issue for me.  All I know is the lawns are kept nice, the park areas are well maintained, and there are no broke down vehicles lingering around.
 
2013-06-29 05:01:59 PM  
Since it's Florida, can't you simply stand your ground and shoot the HOA?

In Texas, I assume you can blow it up with a fertilizer plant.
 
2013-06-29 06:53:18 PM  
This is bad news...for automatic "HOAs going crazy" greenlights.
 
2013-06-30 01:56:52 AM  
This may mark the beginning of the end for the Florida tag.

Oh wait, it's Florida. Who are we kidding?
 
2013-06-30 02:11:41 AM  

Phil Moskowitz: I always thought of these HOAs as turning your home into a Freedom Gulag. America seems to the the most restricted and monitored "free" place on earth.


See also the UK. But yeah, probably.
 
2013-06-30 02:15:19 AM  
No busybody HOAs for me.  Hell, no neighbors for me.  Of course that translated into no running water or plumbing systems, but you'd be amazed how easy it is to adapt to that sort of thing.  Still worth it for some goddamned peace and quiet.
 
2013-06-30 10:16:28 AM  
"Jan Bergmann a long time champion of H.O.A. reform and head of Cyber Citizens for Justice calls the new law a solid first step towards ending the HOA conflicts."

Commas are cool!

/So are editors. Lots of other mistakes in TFA too.
//Seriously, is there no actual journalism at all anymore?
 
2013-06-30 11:57:54 AM  

Uranus Is Huge!: My experience leads me to believe that HOAs exist to give society's biggest losers the chance to control others.


Umm, not just HOA's. That would be the TSA (in first place). HOA's are a close second, though
 
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