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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-29 09:03:03 AM
I suppose the ban on liens also ends the practice of selling a unit for pennies on the dollar to a friend of the HOA president.
 
2013-06-29 09:24:37 AM
Wow.  Governor Lurch actually signed a bill that's not totally f*cking retarded.
 
2013-06-29 09:40:18 AM
www.oocities.org
 
2013-06-29 10:10:09 AM
I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?
 
2013-06-29 10:40:14 AM

NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?


Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?
 
2013-06-29 10:47:11 AM

2wolves: Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


No, that's why I live where I live. I understand the intent of the HOA, but I found it much nicer to just live in a neighborhood where people give a sh*t about their homes because of concern over their own property values.

I know some people can't do that, and hopefully new laws like this can at least protect homeowners in HOAs from the really stupid bylaws or whatever the f*ck they are. I don't want to see old water heaters and a Camaro on blocks, but these laws about house color, flags, etc... Just stupid. The only time that really matters is in areas like our Historic Hill. Those are all historic homes and you have to get approval on any changes or major renovations. But, they don't say you can't fly a flag or any of that other crap, well except for color of house I think.

Just not a huge fan of the HOA model.
 
2013-06-29 10:50:16 AM
The two gorks in the video are precisely what I thought HOA wankers looked like.
 
2013-06-29 10:52:08 AM

2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


Unless you're living out in the sticks where your nearest neighbor is miles away, you don't need an HOA to protect you from such neighbors; standard zoning and maintenance codes would be sufficient to deal with a hoarder who's allowing his yard to turn into a vermin utopia.
 
2013-06-29 10:52:46 AM

2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


Most cities have codes for those kinds of things. Might be a bit more hassle getting the town involved than just a bored homeowner with an authority boner, though.
 
2013-06-29 10:52:50 AM
Florida tag use in a positive way. Cool
 
2013-06-29 10:59:01 AM

kimwim:


Hey it's Rob and Laura Petri!
 
2013-06-29 10:59:49 AM
Yeah, not too happy with some of the HOA and COA shenanigans. This IS a good start.
 
2013-06-29 10:59:58 AM

xanadian: Wow.  Governor Lurch actually signed a bill that's not totally f*cking retarded.


I am far from a fan of Gov. Luthor but he has actually had a few decent moments during his term.
 
2013-06-29 11:01:32 AM
fta An estimated 2 million homes are currently run by some form of Home Owners Association

That sounds Fair And Balancedey
 
2013-06-29 11:02:07 AM
A few decent moments?

Broken clock, twice a day, etc.

What do you expect from someone that consciously swindled over a billion out of taxpayers' pockets?
 
2013-06-29 11:03:49 AM

Warlordtrooper: Florida tag use in a positive way. Cool


I'm am amazed the space time continuum didn't rip it self apart.

/0
 
2013-06-29 11:04:17 AM

2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?


Just because there is no HOA to prevent such a thing from happening, does mean that it will happen.  The house I live in now has no HOA...my guess is that it was one of the last communities built in this area without one (~12 year old house).  It's a nice neighborhood...mid to low middle class.

Do some people not take good care of their lawns?  Absolutely.  Do some people store RVs and boats in their driveway.  Absolutely.

Do any of these things materially impact my home value...*maybe* a little bit, but not to the extent that I would want to fall under an HOA to recover.

For a single family neighborhood, HOAs are an overkill solution to minor problems.  They have uses, and they can be necessary in high density communities, but their use for EVERY new community is pretty crazy.
 
2013-06-29 11:05:59 AM
A state regulatory agency doesn't seem like a bad idea now; but, what happens when it is a bloated, nepotistic autocracy?

/ Just like everything in Florida.
 
2013-06-29 11:07:46 AM

iheartscotch: A state regulatory agency doesn't seem like a bad idea now; but, what happens when it is a bloated, nepotistic autocracy?

/ Just like everything in Florida.


Then HOAs can't function and are effectively shut down? Still not seeing the downside.
 
2013-06-29 11:08:47 AM
Unrelated, but this is the email I got from our HOA yesterday:
URGENT NOTICE - POOL CLOSING

The Station Blvd main pool will be closed today due to contamination from human feces.  The baby pool will remain open for use.

The Station Blvd pool will reopen for use Satureday morning at 9:00 am.
 
2013-06-29 11:08:58 AM
2wolves:Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?

Please tell me you were autocorrected by your phone.

/whose
//who's
///hoose, eh
 
2013-06-29 11:13:48 AM

Nuclear Monk: 2wolves: NewportBarGuy: I know sometimes you may not have a choice. If you work in an area that has them and the homes in your price range happen to be in an HOA, well, you probably go for it.

I just could never live like that. It's my house, I pay all the bills. If I want to paint it pink and invite the homeless over for a BBQ, I'll do it. Just the thought of being threatened over the size of a mailbox or a flag? That's why these threads grow so large. No one wants to be told what to do with their property.

At least Gov. Dickbag signed a piece of legislation that might actually benefit the people of Florida.

What is he now 1 for 4,578?

Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?

Just because there is no HOA to prevent such a thing from happening, does mean that it will happen.  The house I live in now has no HOA...my guess is that it was one of the last communities built in this area without one (~12 year old house).  It's a nice neighborhood...mid to low middle class.

Do some people not take good care of their lawns?  Absolutely.  Do some people store RVs and boats in their driveway.  Absolutely.

Do any of these things materially impact my home value...*maybe* a little bit, but not to the extent that I would want to fall under an HOA to recover.

For a single family neighborhood, HOAs are an overkill solution to minor problems.  They have uses, and they can be necessary in high density communities, but their use for EVERY new community is pretty crazy.


Living in Las Vegas where sub divisions are going up literally every month they are a necessary evil.  Even though you live in a neighborhood with 250K homes, half will be bought by Chinese investors and rented out to people who dont necessarily have pride in the home or neighborhood.
I dont care if you have an American flag or leave your Christmas lights up until March.  I really dont even care if you have one of those portable basketball goals and leave your kids tricycle out front.  I do care if you have a 1985 ford escort out front on blocks and chickens running around out back.
 
2013-06-29 11:20:35 AM
Said I would never live under a HOA.
Found a house that would let us walk into $25K in equity if we got it at asking price.
Under a rules and covenants to be turned into a HOA
/sigh

At least there is no real enforcement.. yet..
 
2013-06-29 11:21:39 AM

headakl: Unrelated, but this is the email I got from our HOA yesterday:
URGENT NOTICE - POOL CLOSING

The Station Blvd main pool will be closed today due to contamination from human feces.  The baby pool will remain open for use.

The Station Blvd pool will reopen for use Satureday morning at 9:00 am.


CODE BROWNI repeat, WE HAVE A CODE BROWN
 
2013-06-29 11:23:01 AM

DemoKnite: I really dont even care if you have one of those portable basketball goals and leave your kids tricycle out front.


Our restrictions prevent those as well, didn't think much of it until the day we were moving in and one blew over and missed my truck that I was driving down the street by inches. Still don't really have a problem with them but at least lay them down when you're done.
 
2013-06-29 11:23:57 AM

Warlordtrooper: Florida tag use in a positive way. Cool


I thought it was Fark TOS violation.
 
2013-06-29 11:41:47 AM
I live in the Atlanta area.  My neighborhood has no HOA, and we have actually had the county take some people to court and win due to them doing stupid things.  One character moved a 'historic house' and plopped it on a partial foundation on the first lot of the neighborhood.  It had no siding and the roof was just tar paper.  Then he put a 'For Sale' sign in front of it and let the thing continue to rot away.

It took 2 years, but the county finally made him tear it down.  In those two years pretty much 0 houses sold in the neighborhood.
 
2013-06-29 11:42:03 AM
My experience leads me to believe that HOAs exist to give society's biggest losers the chance to control others.
 
2013-06-29 11:44:38 AM

TheGreatGazoo: I live in the Atlanta area.  My neighborhood has no HOA, and we have actually had the county take some people to court and win due to them doing stupid things.  One character moved a 'historic house' and plopped it on a partial foundation on the first lot of the neighborhood.  It had no siding and the roof was just tar paper.  Then he put a 'For Sale' sign in front of it and let the thing continue to rot away.

It took 2 years, but the county finally made him tear it down.  In those two years pretty much 0 houses sold in the neighborhood.


If you want to slow down the economy and infrastructure of an area, put a historic society on it.
 
2013-06-29 11:47:39 AM

ChaosStar: Said I would never live under a HOA.
Found a house that would let us walk into $25K in equity if we got it at asking price.
Under a rules and covenants to be turned into a HOA
/sigh

At least there is no real enforcement.. yet..


Get on the board and try to push a vote to have it disbanded.
 
2013-06-29 11:47:47 AM
Back in the 70's, there was a hippie co-op/commune established in the Florida Big Bend area.  People purchased or leased parcels of land in a rural area, then built log cabins and whatnot. The Whole Earth Catalogue was their Bible, I suppose.

Flash forward to the present era, when my band was hired to play a party gig, out there.  They had an Olympic-sized swimming pool, clubhouse, etc.  One of the residents confided that they had become divided into bitter factions over the issue of the temperature settings for the pool water.

Fuuh-ffffffh
 
2013-06-29 11:58:51 AM

Begoggle: ChaosStar: Said I would never live under a HOA.
Found a house that would let us walk into $25K in equity if we got it at asking price.
Under a rules and covenants to be turned into a HOA
/sigh

At least there is no real enforcement.. yet..

Get on the board and try to push a vote to have it disbanded.


No board yet, as it's not a HOA yet.
Covenants and restrictions are put down by the developer, and according to the documents we signed it doesn't become a HOA until the developer sells all the plots in the subdivision, which won't happen.
They just don't enforce anything so far, or really do any upkeep/maintenance either.
That's not really a big deal as we don't have parks or any real common areas.
Oddly enough though, got a letter addressed to the former, deadbeat, owner of the house saying that due to circumstances beyond their control someone else was going to be managing the HOA and to stop sending payments to them... but we don't have an HOA... it's rather confusing and I have my lawyer on standby for it anyway.
/csb
 
2013-06-29 11:59:57 AM

ChaosStar: If you want to slow down the economy and infrastructure of an area, put a historic society on it.


Wait, what?

i44.tinypic.com

"Help! We're homeless and penniless!"


I know they can be a pain in the ass, but they really helped create (maintain) this amazing place.
 
2013-06-29 12:04:52 PM

SDRR: xanadian: Wow.  Governor Lurch actually signed a bill that's not totally f*cking retarded.

I am far from a fan of Gov. Luthor but he has actually had a few decent moments during his term.


What were the other ones?  Scott has managed the impossible and made Crist look like a respected statesman and not a political opportunist.  Hell, I'm almost longing for the days of Jeb Bush- at least he was halfway competent managing the state during the '04 hurricane season
 
2013-06-29 12:05:46 PM

NewportBarGuy: ChaosStar: If you want to slow down the economy and infrastructure of an area, put a historic society on it.

Wait, what?

[i44.tinypic.com image 600x401]

"Help! We're homeless and penniless!"

I know they can be a pain in the ass, but they really helped create (maintain) this amazing place.


You're helping make his point. Do you know how McMansions built with cheap materials and slapped together in the shortest time possible would fit on just one of those plots? Think of the profits!!

/This is how developers think
 
2013-06-29 12:08:34 PM
I always thought of these HOAs as turning your home into a Freedom Gulag. America seems to the the most restricted and monitored "free" place on earth.
 
2013-06-29 12:13:27 PM

FloridaWombat: SDRR: xanadian: Wow.  Governor Lurch actually signed a bill that's not totally f*cking retarded.

I am far from a fan of Gov. Luthor but he has actually had a few decent moments during his term.

What were the other ones?  Scott has managed the impossible and made Crist look like a respected statesman and not a political opportunist.  Hell, I'm almost longing for the days of Jeb Bush- at least he was halfway competent managing the state during the '04 hurricane season


Yup.  Jeb knew when to step away from the cameras and microphones, STFU, and let guys like Craig Fugate step up.
 
2013-06-29 12:14:12 PM
As much as I'd like to, I can't completely fault the builders for the HOA fiasco here in Florida.

[maybe CSB]
Back when we still had the housing boom, 2005 - 2006ish, I use to watch the local government channel. It ran most of the county commission and town council meetings. One thing that I saw over and over is how these boards would tie the contractor's hands with a load of bullshiat. The would often go beyond the whole "Got a site plan?" "Got a drainage plan?" "Got all the required permits?" and all the normal required stuff. The board would frequently require that an HOA be formed. They would also put in stipulations like all houses would be a minimum of 2300 sq ft under air. All houses would conform to the Florida Vernacular style. A minimum of X number of palm trees would be replanted on site. And a whole host of other things that they had no business in requiring. The sad part is that no one challenged this and told the boards to piss off.
[/CSB]

Now government wants to step in with a solution to a problem that it helped create. And charge you for it.
 
2013-06-29 12:15:13 PM
That will lead to a second piece of legislation that will include proposals for an estimated $2 annual fee from home owners and a ban against liens placed on properties when the home owner can't afford HOA fees.The $2 fee would be used to finance the new HOA office.

That tearing sound you hear is government growth.
 
2013-06-29 12:16:03 PM

buzzcut73: You're helping make his point. Do you know how McMansions built with cheap materials and slapped together in the shortest time possible would fit on just one of those plots? Think of the profits!!

/This is how developers think


Do you know that most of them were abandoned when they invented property taxes? Doris Duke along with the Newport Restoration Foundation and Newport Preservation Society bought/took ownership of lots of houses and the mansions and fixed them up for tours. They are a huge part of our tourism draw. By doing that, they probably prevented a bunch of smaller mini mansions from being built and maintained a tourism draw to help support the local economy. Sure, they can be a pain in the ass about some stuff here and there, but I'm really glad they protect what makes this place function. Well, that and booze and food. That's good too.
 
2013-06-29 12:18:24 PM

Mandapants: 2wolves:Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?

Please tell me you were autocorrected by your phone.

/whose
//who's
///hoose, eh


I understood it perfectly.

Got married last year and our (I moved in) house has an HOA run by a retired German couple.  Of course, they have the most manicured lawn in the neighborhood.

/why does it always have to be the Germans?
 
2013-06-29 12:28:14 PM

NewportBarGuy: buzzcut73: You're helping make his point. Do you know how McMansions built with cheap materials and slapped together in the shortest time possible would fit on just one of those plots? Think of the profits!!

/This is how developers think

Do you know that most of them were abandoned when they invented property taxes? Doris Duke along with the Newport Restoration Foundation and Newport Preservation Society bought/took ownership of lots of houses and the mansions and fixed them up for tours. They are a huge part of our tourism draw. By doing that, they probably prevented a bunch of smaller mini mansions from being built and maintained a tourism draw to help support the local economy. Sure, they can be a pain in the ass about some stuff here and there, but I'm really glad they protect what makes this place function. Well, that and booze and food. That's good too.


We're actually on the same side, my sarcasm font doesn't work very well.
I was just making the point that developers will take big old neighborhoods with huge lots, subdivide them and throw up a bunch of new houses that have a postage stamp sized yard, all in the the name of economic development. I guess it does develop the economy of the builder anyway.
 
2013-06-29 12:30:43 PM
But what are all the little Hitlers going to do now?
 
2013-06-29 12:37:19 PM

Mandapants: 2wolves:Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?

Please tell me you were autocorrected by your phone.

/whose
//who's
///hoose, eh


Yes and I still have not found an Android touch keyboard I like.
 
2013-06-29 01:06:33 PM

DigitalCoffee: As much as I'd like to, I can't completely fault the builders for the HOA fiasco here in Florida.

[maybe CSB]
Back when we still had the housing boom, 2005 - 2006ish, I use to watch the local government channel. It ran most of the county commission and town council meetings. One thing that I saw over and over is how these boards would tie the contractor's hands with a load of bullshiat. The would often go beyond the whole "Got a site plan?" "Got a drainage plan?" "Got all the required permits?" and all the normal required stuff. The board would frequently require that an HOA be formed. They would also put in stipulations like all houses would be a minimum of 2300 sq ft under air. All houses would conform to the Florida Vernacular style. A minimum of X number of palm trees would be replanted on site. And a whole host of other things that they had no business in requiring. The sad part is that no one challenged this and told the boards to piss off.
[/CSB]

Now government wants to step in with a solution to a problem that it helped create. And charge you for it.


HOAs are the how local government avoids the burden of additional infrastructure while still getting the tax revenue.  In exchange for letting developers have a higher density of homes, they place the burden of maintaining the infrastructure on the community itself.  The HOA is the mechanism for managing that infrastructure, even though my experience has been that the developer doesn't actually set them up for success.

The dues are subsidized while the developer is still selling units.  Once they leave, it becomes apparent that the dues at best don't cover all the day-to-day expenses (say, if lawncare services are part of the dues) and rarely include the investment necessary to fund pavement replacement in 20 years' time.
 
2013-06-29 01:22:58 PM

Nuclear Monk: The dues are subsidized while the developer is still selling units.  Once they leave, it becomes apparent that the dues at best don't cover all the day-to-day expenses (say, if lawncare services are part of the dues) and rarely include the investment necessary to fund pavement replacement in 20 years' time.


I live in a Florida HOA and I also audit and do tax work for HOA's so I'm...........The good HOA's don't have this problem. As part of the audit work I always ask about the reserve funding. Some HOA's actually hire engineering firms to do cost studies for future repairs and replacements. They tend to be the older developments or uber rich ones. The ones slapped together during the housing boom, well........sucks to be them. Your description was dead on.
 
2013-06-29 01:32:08 PM

SDRR: xanadian: Wow.  Governor Lurch actually signed a bill that's not totally f*cking retarded.

I am far from a fan of Gov. Luthor but he has actually had a few decent moments during his term.


Really? Honestly this is the only non-evil thing I've ever heard of Governor Skeletor doing.
 
2013-06-29 01:41:13 PM
civilwarriors.net
 
2013-06-29 01:42:17 PM
buzzcut73:

/why does it always have to be the Germans?

I live in Germany for a few years. They don't need a HOA, the local government acts as one. Those little towns are the prettiest, cleanest places I've seen, and it's because laws like you can't have a non-working car out front, you have to cut your grass, you have to wash the OUTSIDE of your windows, and you as a homeowner are even responsible for keeping the gutter in front of your property cleaned. And you can't do any of that on a Sunday.
 
2013-06-29 01:57:06 PM
George Zimmerman for HOA president!

"He'll take out the trash. Or just shoot it"
 
2013-06-29 02:38:23 PM

NewportBarGuy: buzzcut73: You're helping make his point. Do you know how McMansions built with cheap materials and slapped together in the shortest time possible would fit on just one of those plots? Think of the profits!!

/This is how developers think

Do you know that most of them were abandoned when they invented property taxes? Doris Duke along with the Newport Restoration Foundation and Newport Preservation Society bought/took ownership of lots of houses and the mansions and fixed them up for tours. They are a huge part of our tourism draw. By doing that, they probably prevented a bunch of smaller mini mansions from being built and maintained a tourism draw to help support the local economy. Sure, they can be a pain in the ass about some stuff here and there, but I'm really glad they protect what makes this place function. Well, that and booze and food. That's good too.


This is the key here, not to ment

NewportBarGuy: ChaosStar: If you want to slow down the economy and infrastructure of an area, put a historic society on it.

Wait, what?

[i44.tinypic.com image 600x401]

"Help! We're homeless and penniless!"

I know they can be a pain in the ass, but they really helped create (maintain) this amazing place.


In contrast, in Columbia SC there's a old warehouse that has been used for self storage as long as anyone can remember. It has no real key historic value, it's a wreck inside, a fire hazard, and would cost a small fortune to restore. Instead of letting a contractor buy it to put (badly needed) student housing for USC up, the local historical liberals whined and complained until the city council bought it to the tune of a cool $7mil taxpayer dollars. Those dollars were taken from the city's $42.8 million reserve account used to cover long-term health care benefits for about 2,600 current and future Columbia retirees.
 
2013-06-29 02:42:42 PM

smittyrn: buzzcut73:

/why does it always have to be the Germans?

I live in Germany for a few years. They don't need a HOA, the local government acts as one. Those little towns are the prettiest, cleanest places I've seen, and it's because laws like you can't have a non-working car out front, you have to cut your grass, you have to wash the OUTSIDE of your windows, and you as a homeowner are even responsible for keeping the gutter in front of your property cleaned. And you can't do any of that on a Sunday.


Wish my "rednecky" part of town was more Germanic....
 
2013-06-29 04:12:11 PM

Mandapants: 2wolves:Do you want to live next to a hoarder who's front and back yard are knee deep on a giraffe filled with trash?

Please tell me you were autocorrected by your phone.

/whose
//who's
///hoose, eh


no, that makes sense.  How high are a giraffe's knees?

The grammar is just a bit bent.
 
2013-06-29 04:23:05 PM

ChaosStar: In contrast, in Columbia SC there's a old warehouse that has been used for self storage as long as anyone can remember. It has no real key historic value, it's a wreck inside, a fire hazard, and would cost a small fortune to restore. Instead of letting a contractor buy it to put (badly needed) student housing for USC up, the local historical liberals whined and complained until the city council bought it to the tune of a cool $7mil taxpayer dollars. Those dollars were taken from the city's $42.8 million reserve account used to cover long-term health care benefits for about 2,600 current and future Columbia retirees.


That is a perfect example of them screwing things up. If I lived there, I'd do what I could to have fought against it, or fix it after they bought it by figuring out a way to recoup that money. Those situations are when they are in over their head, have no idea what they are doing, and need to ask responsible town people what the best thing is to do with the property. With what they can do with facades these days, I'm sure they could find a contractor to make student housing that would blend into the area.
 
2013-06-29 05:00:30 PM
I've lived in 2 HOA's and I've never experienced this so called evil dictatorship that everyone talks about.  Maybe I just don't have the need to do anything outrageous to my place that would involve the HOA, but they've never been an issue for me.  All I know is the lawns are kept nice, the park areas are well maintained, and there are no broke down vehicles lingering around.
 
2013-06-29 05:01:59 PM
Since it's Florida, can't you simply stand your ground and shoot the HOA?

In Texas, I assume you can blow it up with a fertilizer plant.
 
2013-06-29 06:53:18 PM
This is bad news...for automatic "HOAs going crazy" greenlights.
 
2013-06-30 01:56:52 AM
This may mark the beginning of the end for the Florida tag.

Oh wait, it's Florida. Who are we kidding?
 
2013-06-30 02:11:41 AM

Phil Moskowitz: I always thought of these HOAs as turning your home into a Freedom Gulag. America seems to the the most restricted and monitored "free" place on earth.


See also the UK. But yeah, probably.
 
2013-06-30 02:15:19 AM
No busybody HOAs for me.  Hell, no neighbors for me.  Of course that translated into no running water or plumbing systems, but you'd be amazed how easy it is to adapt to that sort of thing.  Still worth it for some goddamned peace and quiet.
 
2013-06-30 10:16:28 AM
"Jan Bergmann a long time champion of H.O.A. reform and head of Cyber Citizens for Justice calls the new law a solid first step towards ending the HOA conflicts."

Commas are cool!

/So are editors. Lots of other mistakes in TFA too.
//Seriously, is there no actual journalism at all anymore?
 
2013-06-30 11:57:54 AM

Uranus Is Huge!: My experience leads me to believe that HOAs exist to give society's biggest losers the chance to control others.


Umm, not just HOA's. That would be the TSA (in first place). HOA's are a close second, though
 
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