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2013-06-29 10:45:40 AM  
www.eelis.net
 
2013-06-29 10:48:51 AM  
Simeon Birchall, a CNN.com commenter asks is there huge competition for every seat on a shuttle Soyuz launch?

/fixed that for you CNN
 
2013-06-29 10:48:51 AM  
One and done.
 
2013-06-29 10:48:59 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-29 11:31:43 AM  
Pussies. This is the fuuuuuuutuuure of. THE. SPEEEEEEECIEEEEEES!!!!

Guess you nutcases will have to bring bigger glasses.
 
2013-06-29 11:33:58 AM  
 
2013-06-29 11:34:10 AM  

GilRuiz1: [www.eelis.net image 214x293]


BalugaJoe: One and done.


Sugarbombs: [i.imgur.com image 320x180]


Two and done.
 
2013-06-29 12:12:22 PM  

Nem Wan: Possibly related, nearly all astronauts who have flown beyond low earth orbit got cataracts.


Then how can they see if it's full of stars?
 
2013-06-29 12:16:52 PM  
might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.
 
2013-06-29 12:58:12 PM  
One would think that if you are closed in metal box for months where the only way of having some fun time is by doing it to yourself then you will have long standing vision problems.
 
2013-06-29 01:18:11 PM  
If they're working on morphology, maybe they can take a whack at longevity and incept dates while they're up there.
 
2013-06-29 01:20:00 PM  
blogs.amctv.com
 
2013-06-29 02:54:38 PM  
Maul555: might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.

Probably related to Cosmic Ray Visual Phenomena.
 
2013-06-29 02:55:00 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: Pussies. This is the fuuuuuuutuuure of. THE. SPEEEEEEECIEEEEEES!!!!

Guess you nutcases will have to bring bigger glasses.


Didn't you hear? They're trying to find a cure before we start going to Mars.

"We are hoping that we can determine exactly what is causing this and hopefully mitigate the problem, especially if we start longer duration missions going to Mars ... I don't know how many years from now that will be, but that type of thing may become standard. "

Who knows, maybe some day they can use specialized printer machines to create ever-changing glasses to adapt with the Martian colonists!
 
2013-06-29 02:55:07 PM  
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2013-06-29 03:00:17 PM  

croesius: Quantum Apostrophe: Pussies. This is the fuuuuuuutuuure of. THE. SPEEEEEEECIEEEEEES!!!!

Guess you nutcases will have to bring bigger glasses.

Didn't you hear? They're trying to find a cure before we start going to Mars.

"We are hoping that we can determine exactly what is causing this and hopefully mitigate the problem, especially if we start longer duration missions going to Mars ... I don't know how many years from now that will be, but that type of thing may become standard. "

Who knows, maybe some day they can use specialized printer machines to create ever-changing glasses to adapt with the Martian colonists!


Well it's settled then. Let's colonize the universe.
 
2013-06-29 03:01:37 PM  
ih0.redbubble.net

/hey, you wanna see screams. I'll listen for smells
 
2013-06-29 04:14:31 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: croesius: Quantum Apostrophe: Pussies. This is the fuuuuuuutuuure of. THE. SPEEEEEEECIEEEEEES!!!!

Guess you nutcases will have to bring bigger glasses.

Didn't you hear? They're trying to find a cure before we start going to Mars.

"We are hoping that we can determine exactly what is causing this and hopefully mitigate the problem, especially if we start longer duration missions going to Mars ... I don't know how many years from now that will be, but that type of thing may become standard. "

Who knows, maybe some day they can use specialized printer machines to create ever-changing glasses to adapt with the Martian colonists!

Well it's settled then. Let's colonize the universe.


Sounds good.  I'm volunteering you for the first test run.

Ignore that shaped charge on the door, it's for 'safety'.
 
2013-06-29 05:43:06 PM  
Well that just makes no logical sense. If there was no gravity to screw up Armstrong's and Aldrin's eyesight, how could the Moon landing been faked?
 
2013-06-29 05:56:26 PM  
See you at dah pahty, Richtah!!
 
2013-06-29 06:07:25 PM  
can they smell you scream?  it has to get pretty rank up there after a while
 
2013-06-29 06:16:09 PM  
"They come back to Earth after three to six months in space and have long term vision problems, changes in their vision. We are trying to figure out what exactly is causing that."

Astronauts since the days of John Glenn have reported seeing "flashes" while in orbit. It's caused when their spacecraft passes through one of Earth's radiation belts, which triggers off the optic nerves. Spend enough time microwaving your eyeballs in Earth orbit and it's no wonder their vision gets impaired.
 
2013-06-29 06:41:47 PM  

TV's Vinnie: It's caused when their spacecraft passes through one of Earth's radiation belts, which triggers off the optic nerves.


I always thought that this was Cerenkov light produced in the vitreous humor caused by the passage of high energy charged cosmics...

cheers
 
2013-06-29 06:42:02 PM  

Maul555: might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.


Yeah, radiation aside, spending 6 months in a tin can with nothing to focus your eyes on that's further than 3 meters away is going to screw with your vision.

Maybe they should give the astronauts an Oculus Rift type device to let them experience mid- and long-distance scenery for an hour or so a day. Maybe not as good as the real thing, but stereoscopic imagery at least gives your eye something to lock onto.
 
2013-06-29 07:22:19 PM  

Cthulhu_is_my_homeboy: Maul555: might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.

Yeah, radiation aside, spending 6 months in a tin can with nothing to focus your eyes on that's further than 3 meters away is going to screw with your vision.

Maybe they should give the astronauts an Oculus Rift type device to let them experience mid- and long-distance scenery for an hour or so a day. Maybe not as good as the real thing, but stereoscopic imagery at least gives your eye something to lock onto.


I would have thought being in zero-g for long periods of time would be enough to screw up your eyesight.
 
2013-06-29 07:30:38 PM  
Space flight. If you don't stop it you will go blind.
 
2013-06-29 07:31:36 PM  

xellas84: Sounds good. I'm volunteering you for the first test run.

Ignore that shaped charge on the door, it's for 'safety'.


You sound like a religious fundamentalist. Violence, explosives, fantasies about the sky....

Seek help.
 
2013-06-29 08:22:04 PM  
I thought it was because of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino passing through their eyes
 
2013-06-29 08:28:06 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I thought it was because of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino passing through their eyes


Why? Neutrinos interact so weakly with matter they can pass through a light year of lead. There are just as many neutrinos going through you right now as there would be on the Moon, for example.
 
2013-06-29 08:48:16 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: drjekel_mrhyde: I thought it was because of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino passing through their eyes

Why? Neutrinos interact so weakly with matter they can pass through a light year of lead. There are just as many neutrinos going through you right now as there would be on the Moon, for example.


This. The earth offers you no protection from neutrinos like it does other forms of radiation.
 
2013-06-29 10:26:19 PM  

Alonjar: Quantum Apostrophe: drjekel_mrhyde: I thought it was because of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino passing through their eyes

Why? Neutrinos interact so weakly with matter they can pass through a light year of lead. There are just as many neutrinos going through you right now as there would be on the Moon, for example.

This. The earth offers you no protection from neutrinos like it does other forms of radiation.


It's not important anyways. It's like buying ghost attack insurance.
 
2013-06-29 10:27:34 PM  
When I saw the headline was "QA live from space", I was hoping for something else.
 
2013-06-29 10:49:13 PM  
 
2013-06-30 03:27:34 AM  

Begoggle: When I saw the headline was "QA live from space", I was hoping for something else.


lol...same here!
 
2013-06-30 08:40:00 AM  
Any correlation between this and the WW2 era sub crews?
 
2013-06-30 11:12:55 AM  

Quantum Apostrophe: xellas84: Sounds good. I'm volunteering you for the first test run.

Ignore that shaped charge on the door, it's for 'safety'.

You sound like a religious fundamentalist. Violence, explosives, fantasies about the sky....

Seek help.


I dunno why, but you just made me laugh.

Maybe it's because you're beyond the point where you can really think any of this through; it's just your pet subject to real against.

Personally, I think the only real thing we'll ever do in space is mine. There's plenty of very pure alloy up there for us, if we can only figure out how to get it here economically. Exploration is important, if for no other reason than us really not like being told "no, you can't go there."

Maybe that's why you face so much hostility in this thread, QA: You're telling a bunch of people with time on their hands, imagination and a feeling of being cheated by our space program, "NO."

Nothing personal, QA... in other threads you've said some things which I appreciate. I'm glad I've seen those posts, otherwise I'd think you really are this much of a douche about everything, instead of this specific thing.

/would say she agrees with much of what you say here, but;
//can't, with you being such an arsehole about it, therefore;
///QUIT BEING A HORSE'S ARSE!
 
2013-06-30 11:37:28 AM  

0z79: Personally, I think the only real thing we'll ever do in space is mine.


The only real thing we're doing in space is signal processing. Information weighs nothing.

0z79: There's plenty of very pure alloy up there for us,


Hahahahaha!!! Oh my god....

0z79: Exploration is important,


Again, you're going from space is a supermarket for us, to some sort of romantic ideal about exploration.

0z79: You're telling a bunch of people with time on their hands, imagination and a feeling of being cheated by our space program, "NO."


I'm telling them "think about WHY reality is telling you NO".

I can't stop anybody from doing anything, really.

Reality is.

0z79: but you just made me laugh.


I used to laugh at the delusions some people have about space, then I found out they're dead earnest about it.

We live in the same world with access to the same information.

How come we arrive at different conclusions?

I'm not wrong, therefore...
 
2013-06-30 11:50:32 AM  

0z79: Quantum Apostrophe: xellas84: Sounds good. I'm volunteering you for the first test run.

Ignore that shaped charge on the door, it's for 'safety'.

You sound like a religious fundamentalist. Violence, explosives, fantasies about the sky....

Seek help.

I dunno why, but you just made me laugh.

Maybe it's because you're beyond the point where you can really think any of this through; it's just your pet subject to real against.

Personally, I think the only real thing we'll ever do in space is mine. There's plenty of very pure alloy up there for us, if we can only figure out how to get it here economically. Exploration is important, if for no other reason than us really not like being told "no, you can't go there."

Maybe that's why you face so much hostility in this thread, QA: You're telling a bunch of people with time on their hands, imagination and a feeling of being cheated by our space program, "NO."

Nothing personal, QA... in other threads you've said some things which I appreciate. I'm glad I've seen those posts, otherwise I'd think you really are this much of a douche about everything, instead of this specific thing.

/would say she agrees with much of what you say here, but;
//can't, with you being such an arsehole about it, therefore;
///QUIT BEING A HORSE'S ARSE!




i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-30 12:06:25 PM  
Hey, I was just pointing out that it's there for us, whenever we can get it.

I know there's plenty of stuff we need to work out here, though; hence, why I pointed out that I agree with much of what QA has said about this.

Plus, I keep forgetting the fact that on the 'net, nobody's really there to be civil.. I'm actually developing a filter for any kind of insults slung my way.

This site has really opened my eyes to a lot of things, and speaking with you people (while trying not to be hurt too badly if it gets personal), is re-teaching me to think critically and objectively about the world around me, as well as some of my own beliefs.

It's just a shame you all have to be so catty about it... but maybe that's a part of it.

/should probably make a new alt after this
 
2013-06-30 12:14:11 PM  

0z79: Hey, I was just pointing out that it's there for us, whenever we can get it.

I know there's plenty of stuff we need to work out here, though; hence, why I pointed out that I agree with much of what QA has said about this.

Plus, I keep forgetting the fact that on the 'net, nobody's really there to be civil.. I'm actually developing a filter for any kind of insults slung my way.

This site has really opened my eyes to a lot of things, and speaking with you people (while trying not to be hurt too badly if it gets personal), is re-teaching me to think critically and objectively about the world around me, as well as some of my own beliefs.

It's just a shame you all have to be so catty about it... but maybe that's a part of it.

/should probably make a new alt after this



Maybe you can 3D-print that filter.
 
2013-06-30 12:27:50 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: 0z79: Hey, I was just pointing out that it's there for us, whenever we can get it.

I know there's plenty of stuff we need to work out here, though; hence, why I pointed out that I agree with much of what QA has said about this.

Plus, I keep forgetting the fact that on the 'net, nobody's really there to be civil.. I'm actually developing a filter for any kind of insults slung my way.

This site has really opened my eyes to a lot of things, and speaking with you people (while trying not to be hurt too badly if it gets personal), is re-teaching me to think critically and objectively about the world around me, as well as some of my own beliefs.

It's just a shame you all have to be so catty about it... but maybe that's a part of it.

/should probably make a new alt after this


Maybe you can 3D-print that filter.


IN....
SPAAAAAAAAAACE!
 
2013-06-30 01:06:44 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: StoPPeRmobile: 0z79: Hey, I was just pointing out that it's there for us, whenever we can get it.

I know there's plenty of stuff we need to work out here, though; hence, why I pointed out that I agree with much of what QA has said about this.

Plus, I keep forgetting the fact that on the 'net, nobody's really there to be civil.. I'm actually developing a filter for any kind of insults slung my way.

This site has really opened my eyes to a lot of things, and speaking with you people (while trying not to be hurt too badly if it gets personal), is re-teaching me to think critically and objectively about the world around me, as well as some of my own beliefs.

It's just a shame you all have to be so catty about it... but maybe that's a part of it.

/should probably make a new alt after this


Maybe you can 3D-print that filter.

IN....
SPAAAAAAAAAACE!




That would be dumb.
 
2013-06-30 01:25:35 PM  
Rephrasing:

By "filter", I mean "you guys are so completely desensitizing me to your bullshiat that I don't even see most of it anymore."

Unless you guys are being literal-minded just to fark around like a couple of 70-year-olds.. if so, then by all means, knock yourselves out like the old coots you are. :p
 
2013-06-30 03:01:15 PM  

0z79: Rephrasing:

By "filter", I mean "you guys are so completely desensitizing me to your bullshiat that I don't even see most of it anymore."

Unless you guys are being literal-minded just to fark around like a couple of 70-year-olds.. if so, then by all means, knock yourselves out like the old coots you are. :p


Fark is a community for assholes who want to be assholes to other assholes, while making fun of the news.

Actually if you stick to just that first clause, you can pretty much describe anything on the internet that existed pre-facebook.
 
2013-06-30 03:14:27 PM  

Maul555: might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.


You'd think that'd apply to submariners too, then.
 
2013-06-30 03:17:09 PM  

OceanVortex: Maul555: might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.

You'd think that'd apply to submariners too, then.


Damn your logic and facts in a thread about space.

Space is a giant Wal Mart filled with pre-packaged and processed goods ripe for the plucking by billionaires building large firecrackers, for the species.

If you don't believe this, you are an anti-technology Luddite.
 
2013-06-30 03:47:12 PM  

Quantum Apostrophe: OceanVortex: Maul555: might it have something to do with the eyes getting lazy due to not having a wide range distances to focus on?  In space you can only see the earth way down there or the walls really close to you.

You'd think that'd apply to submariners too, then.

Damn your logic and facts in a thread about space.

Space is a giant Wal Mart filled with pre-packaged and processed goods ripe for the plucking by billionaires building large firecrackers, for the species.

If you don't believe this, you are an anti-technology Luddite


Nope. There's very little out there, just scattered clumps of matter in A LOT of emptiness.

It just so happens that, LONG after we're all dead and gone, we MIGHT be able to find some use for it.
 
2013-06-30 03:58:19 PM  
I find QA's rants funny.

I work in the human spaceflight industry so I know what many of the risks are, I suspect that he knows what those same risks are as well.

But QA doesn't mention many of those that really matter, for the most part.

In fact he chooses the risks that are arguably the least important such as distance, etc.

Low hanging fruit that will get the average Joe to respond, you know, trollin'.

I would go out on a limb and say that QA is probably an advocate of human spaceflight, but just enjoys getting a rise out of people.

He knows as well as I do that pharmacogenomics is going to be used in human spaceflight and that is the best way to not only help reduce the health risks with low duration flight but it is also the ticket to enhancing human longevity. If you look at QA's profile you can see that he wants to live forever.
 
2013-06-30 06:15:57 PM  

drjekel_mrhyde: I thought it was because of these http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neutrino passing through their eyes


It's possible I guess, but the neutrino cross-section with matter is so unbelievably small that this explanation seems very unlikely. Neutrinos can happily pass through the whole earth and be measured by Super-Kamiokande. Laboratory accelerator-based experiments that I know of involve huge detectors that use the earth's crust as an absorber and/or many many planes of e.g. battleship steel interspersed with read-out planes and even then the real neutrino interaction event rate is measured in 1/days or longer.  The likelihood that neutrinos are interacting in a ~1cm depth of the ~water-like vitreous humor in an astronaut's eyes would seem off by quite a few  tens of orders of magnitude...

That said, my one and only greenlight (once the count was non-zero I stopped trying!) was about an effect that, if true, certainly smells like solar neutrinos, but still it makes almost no sense! BTW I have not followed up on any recent developments in this direction....cheers
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