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(CBS News)   Going the 200 mile distance in an ultramarathon may be healthier than stopping after 100 miles. This is great news for all five people who like to run non-stop for three straight days   (cbsnews.com) divider line 78
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2013-06-29 11:22:22 AM
I'll stick to 200 meters marathons

/I sound fat
 
2013-06-29 11:28:54 AM
They found out that at the end of the race, the Tor des Geants runners had less muscle fatigues and soreness compared to their counterparts who had run half the distance.
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Perhaps the people who stopped intended to stop and were not as fit as the counterparts who trained for 200. Just a thought.
 
2013-06-29 11:34:57 AM

jake3988: They found out that at the end of the race, the Tor des Geants runners had less muscle fatigues and soreness compared to their counterparts who had run half the distance.
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Perhaps the people who stopped intended to stop and were not as fit as the counterparts who trained for 200. Just a thought.


Even running 100 miles requires you to be so freakishly fit that I doubt that going up to 200 actually makes much difference.
 
2013-06-29 11:39:57 AM
Ultra stupid, no matter how you stack it.
 
2013-06-29 12:10:14 PM
The best way to run an ultramarathon is to cruise the route at 5 m.p.h. in the back of an air-conditioned limo, sipping martinis and occasionally getting out to walk or jog for a block or so, to stretch the legs and clear the head.

/added to bucket list
 
2013-06-29 12:17:50 PM
My brother is preparing for a 100K race, and that seems like more than enough.

/crazy farker
//my family is two fit brothers bookended by two fatass brothers
///I am one of the bookends
 
2013-06-29 12:25:43 PM
This makes sense in a way in relation to human evolution.

humans are as a species capable of long distance hunting...persistence hunting.  The average person can (in reasonable shape) move up to 30 miles a day.  Only wolves do that aside from us and they do it over much larger territories.  A lot of it has to do with our high muscle density.  So a slower pace (3.5 mph) vs over 4mph might make a huge difference in muscle strain and impact on bones and the like.  Of course training for a 200 mile...brisk walk is also tough and likely their bone density is higher as well from the constant impacts.

So yeah article is good and reveals a little bit more of what our bodies are capable of with training.  Not that its healthy to do that all the time...but given the right stress populations of humans have had and still have the ability to move long distances in fairly short periods of time.  This knowledge can help with migration predictions for archaeologists.  Maybe now they can work out the average speed in a better way.

*shrugs*
/more useless information clogging my brain.
//back to listening to In Flames
 
2013-06-29 12:35:59 PM
We can't stop here, this is 100th mile
 
2013-06-29 01:01:34 PM
FTA: "The reason why the 200-mile runners weren't as fatigued as the 100-mile group may be due to pacing. The Tor des Geants runners averaged 3.4 miles per hour during their course, while the 100-mile runners took a faster 4.5 miles per hour pace."

I thought dropping below 4 MPH for too long bought you a ticket on The Long Walk.
 
2013-06-29 01:16:46 PM

Mad_Radhu: FTA: "The reason why the 200-mile runners weren't as fatigued as the 100-mile group may be due to pacing. The Tor des Geants runners averaged 3.4 miles per hour during their course, while the 100-mile runners took a faster 4.5 miles per hour pace."

I thought dropping below 4 MPH for too long bought you a ticket on The Long Walk.


Nicely done
 
2013-06-29 01:40:23 PM

Mad_Radhu: FTA: "The reason why the 200-mile runners weren't as fatigued as the 100-mile group may be due to pacing. The Tor des Geants runners averaged 3.4 miles per hour during their course, while the 100-mile runners took a faster 4.5 miles per hour pace."

I thought dropping below 4 MPH for too long bought you a ticket on The Long Walk.


Also, don't most people walk between 3-4 mph?
 
2013-06-29 01:52:28 PM
I run for three days straight every time I eat Taco Bell
 
2013-06-29 02:03:45 PM

HotIgneous Intruder: Ultra stupid, no matter how you stack it.


Any idiot can run a marathon but it takes a special kind of idiot to run an ultra.

Carth: Also, don't most people walk between 3-4 mph?


Most ultra runners use a run/walk strategy instead of trying to run the full distance and on top of that you spend some time pissing/crapping/puking, sitting so you can change your shoes/socks, apply anti-chafing goo and various things like that that drag your overall average pace down.
 
2013-06-29 02:03:47 PM
I think if you can make it to 100 miles, you're healthy enough.
 
2013-06-29 02:11:32 PM

KCCO: HotIgneous Intruder: Ultra stupid, no matter how you stack it.

Any idiot can run a marathon but it takes a special kind of idiot to run an ultra.

Carth: Also, don't most people walk between 3-4 mph?

Most ultra runners use a run/walk strategy instead of trying to run the full distance and on top of that you spend some time pissing/crapping/puking, sitting so you can change your shoes/socks, apply anti-chafing goo and various things like that that drag your overall average pace down.


Oh ok. The longest running race i've done is 50k so the low average speed seemed weird. I wonder if some elite runners could actually run 50 miles. Sleep for a few hours and do it again 3 times and win.
 
2013-06-29 02:22:40 PM
Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?
 
2013-06-29 02:23:08 PM
I wonder what the data would be on road course ultramarathons as opposed to trail running ultramarathons. Both of the studied races are on trials where the running is far slower than on a road ultramarathon.
 
2013-06-29 02:25:48 PM

Carth: I wonder if some elite runners could actually run 50 miles


There are people who can run 100 miles straight through. The thing with the races in TFA is they're trail runs, so no pavement, having to deal with loose gravel, mud, steep elevation changes etc, lots of stuff where you have to slow down to deal with it safely.
 
2013-06-29 02:27:29 PM
upload.wikimedia.org

/ slow, is the tempo
 
2013-06-29 02:53:35 PM
WhyteRaven74 * * Smartest * Funniest 2013-06-29 02:25:48 PM Carth: I wonder if some elite runners could actually run 50 miles There are people who can run 100 miles straight through. The thing with the races in TFA is they're trail runs, so no pavement, having to deal with loose gravel, mud, steep elevation changes etc, lots of stuff where you have to slow down to deal with it safely.
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Yeah. Plus, you have to do trail runs going that far. Otherwise you're going to murder your knees and ankles so fast your career in the sport would be over before you even finished training for one.
 
2013-06-29 03:11:07 PM
I am preparing for 2 Ultra's in the next two years and this is an interesting article.

However, doesn't it make sense that there will be more "Fatigue", which the researches metrics were knee and foot "strain" (how they measured that I don't know), and electrical signals, for somebody going faster at a shorter distance than there would be for somebody going slower for longer?

Also, was the temperature, humidity, elevation, and elevation changes the same or comparable between the two courses?

Also did they have any kind of baseline to compare to?
 
2013-06-29 03:11:08 PM

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


Nothing.  You're just the man who walked 1000 miles to fall down at your door...
 
2013-06-29 03:31:51 PM

jake3988: Yeah. Plus, you have to do trail runs going that far.


They actually have 50 and 100 mile road races, plus various multi-day events.
 
2013-06-29 04:04:18 PM
Obscure?

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-29 04:13:38 PM

TDBoedy: This makes sense in a way in relation to human evolution.

humans are as a species capable of long distance hunting...persistence hunting.  The average person can (in reasonable shape) move up to 30 miles a day.  Only wolves do that aside from us and they do it over much larger territories.  A lot of it has to do with our high muscle density.  So a slower pace (3.5 mph) vs over 4mph might make a huge difference in muscle strain and impact on bones and the like.  Of course training for a 200 mile...brisk walk is also tough and likely their bone density is higher as well from the constant impacts.

So yeah article is good and reveals a little bit more of what our bodies are capable of with training.  Not that its healthy to do that all the time...but given the right stress populations of humans have had and still have the ability to move long distances in fairly short periods of time.  This knowledge can help with migration predictions for archaeologists.  Maybe now they can work out the average speed in a better way.


Reminds me of what I heard about African Bushmen. Obviously they're way too slow to straight up catch antelopes, but they can run after it long enough that the antelopes just collapse from exhaustion.
 
2013-06-29 04:30:06 PM

Mjeck: Obscure?

[upload.wikimedia.org image 200x275]


Everything in Oz is obscure.
 
2013-06-29 05:00:02 PM

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


Ask these folks:
http://trailkit.blogspot.com/2013/06/halfway-there.html
 
2013-06-29 05:26:30 PM
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-29 05:31:31 PM
img.youtube.com

'I'm kinda tired.  Think I'll go home now'.
 
2013-06-29 05:35:05 PM

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


Well thanks for that earworm
 
2013-06-29 05:50:09 PM
Earlier this month I volunteered at both a marathon and a 50 mile run. Some of the marathoners were a biatchunky, persevering a long slow distance but fast enough.

Not so for the 50-milers. All of them looked pure athletic through and through.
 
2013-06-29 05:54:20 PM

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


Set one up and charge people out the wazoo to participate. You'd have a lot of takers given that people would sign up for a 200 mile run.

Plus the whole song thing would make it funny.
 
2013-06-29 06:00:39 PM
1-ps.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-06-29 06:02:46 PM
 
2013-06-29 07:37:11 PM
moreintelligentlife.com

Correlation, does it equal causation?
 
2013-06-29 07:57:06 PM
This is suspiciously correlation = causation to me. Maybe the people who run the longer marathon do so because they can, possibly being genetically predisposed to filtering lactic acid out of their system more efficiently than the people who decide they can only do the shorter marathon?
 
2013-06-29 07:58:42 PM

LordOfThePings: [moreintelligentlife.com image 470x350]

Correlation, does it equal causation?


beat me by 20minutes.
 
2013-06-29 08:16:42 PM

Virtuoso80: beat me by 20minutes.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc

?
 
2013-06-29 08:23:07 PM

LordOfThePings: Virtuoso80: beat me by 20minutes.

Post hoc, ergo propter hoc?


Clearly I just need to sign on to fark 20min earlier from now on and this won't happen.
 
2013-06-29 08:25:44 PM
I'll pass. I'd like to walk under my own power when I get old. As much as I admire their willpower and endurance, I also view these people as addicts.
 
2013-06-29 10:51:39 PM
Badwater Ultramarathon - 135 miles course in Death Valley, temps up to 130F, start at 282' below sea-level and finish at 8,360'. IF you finish in 48 hours or less you get this:

www.adventurecorps.com

Oh, and a T-shirt and a "goodie" bag.
 
2013-06-29 11:15:58 PM

TDBoedy: This makes sense in a way in relation to human evolution.

humans are as a species capable of long distance hunting...persistence hunting.  The average person can (in reasonable shape) move up to 30 miles a day.  Only wolves do that aside from us and they do it over much larger territories.  A lot of it has to do with our high muscle density.  So a slower pace (3.5 mph) vs over 4mph might make a huge difference in muscle strain and impact on bones and the like.  Of course training for a 200 mile...brisk walk is also tough and likely their bone density is higher as well from the constant impacts.

So yeah article is good and reveals a little bit more of what our bodies are capable of with training.  Not that its healthy to do that all the time...but given the right stress populations of humans have had and still have the ability to move long distances in fairly short periods of time.  This knowledge can help with migration predictions for archaeologists.  Maybe now they can work out the average speed in a better way.

*shrugs*
/more useless information clogging my brain.
//back to listening to In Flames


Good choice. Which album?
 
2013-06-29 11:17:39 PM
I prefer 0.262 mile long marathons
 
2013-06-29 11:20:47 PM

Mjeck: Obscure?


Did a jogging book? Did a jogging video? Dropped dead of a massive heart attack when? when he was f*cking jogging, that's when!

What do you wanna bet it was two smokers who found the body?

"Hey that's Jim Fixx isn't it?"
"Yeah what a f*cking tragedy, lets go buy some butts!"
 
2013-06-30 12:35:28 AM
media.liveauctiongroup.net
 
2013-06-30 02:52:55 AM

WhyteRaven74: Carth: I wonder if some elite runners could actually run 50 miles

There are people who can run 100 miles straight through. The thing with the races in TFA is they're trail runs, so no pavement, having to deal with loose gravel, mud, steep elevation changes etc, lots of stuff where you have to slow down to deal with it

safely.

Mount Marathon scoffs at that thought.

3.bp.blogspot.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
2.bp.blogspot.com

/I always wanted to take park in it
 
2013-06-30 02:54:05 AM
park part
 
2013-06-30 03:27:56 AM
Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.

rpmftns.com
3.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-30 03:35:03 AM
Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

www.mommawithacape.com
 
2013-06-30 04:00:39 AM

rocky_howard: Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

[www.mommawithacape.com image 850x637]


Isn't that one the right the "disgraced" Greek chick that was disqualified for having a pro-Golden Dawn boyfriend or something?
I guess I'd rather have her body, but I'm pretty attached to my penis.
 
2013-06-30 04:59:45 AM

God-is-a-Taco: rocky_howard: Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

[www.mommawithacape.com image 850x637]

Isn't that one the right the "disgraced" Greek chick that was disqualified for having a pro-Golden Dawn boyfriend or something?
I guess I'd rather have her body, but I'm pretty attached to my penis.


I'd rather have her body attached to my penis, if you know what I'm saying, and I think you do. ;)
 
2013-06-30 06:13:18 AM

Wolf892: God-is-a-Taco: rocky_howard: Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

[www.mommawithacape.com image 850x637]

Isn't that one the right the "disgraced" Greek chick that was disqualified for having a pro-Golden Dawn boyfriend or something?
I guess I'd rather have her body, but I'm pretty attached to my penis.

I'd rather have her body attached to my penis, if you know what I'm saying, and I think you do. ;)


You want to be a tranny?
 
2013-06-30 07:48:43 AM

rocky_howard: Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.

[rpmftns.com image 361x376]
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 525x300]


No.
 
2013-06-30 08:04:54 AM

rocky_howard: "Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"



The distance runners you posted pictures of are marathoners.  I've run every footrace from the 100m sprint to the Run Across Georgia and I have to say that the marathon is the biatch of the bunch.  It is such a long race to run so fast and at such a high heart rate. To give you an idea, after my last marathon it took me almost two weeks before I could get back into my usual running routine.  After the last 100 miler I was back on my feet and running within a couple of days.

And yeah, ultrarunners typically look a little different than marathoners.
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tosic.com
 
2013-06-30 08:16:32 AM
I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?
 
2013-06-30 08:48:09 AM

Mad_Radhu: FTA: "The reason why the 200-mile runners weren't as fatigued as the 100-mile group may be due to pacing. The Tor des Geants runners averaged 3.4 miles per hour during their course, while the 100-mile runners took a faster 4.5 miles per hour pace."

I thought dropping below 4 MPH for too long bought you a ticket on The Long Walk.


Could you imagine how long that book would be if these people were in it?
 
2013-06-30 08:49:18 AM

rocky_howard: Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.

[rpmftns.com image 361x376]
[3.bp.blogspot.com image 525x300]


Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.

www.atlargenutrition.com
 
2013-06-30 08:58:49 AM

Eps05: I'll stick to 200 meters marathons

/I sound fat


if you put a gun to my head and made me run a half mile i'd explode. your fat, i has it. it took me three weeks until i discovered my heels were hurting because i crushed my sneakers and i was digging into the molded criss-cross hard rubber underneath.

/paused during typing to light up smoke, swallow a Ding Dong Bar
 
2013-06-30 10:11:20 AM

djZorbof: I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?


Same here! First marathon for me,(I've run a couple halves), and figure that if I do my first at a big, good race, if it winds up being my last, it'll be memorable. How's your training going?
 
2013-06-30 10:34:13 AM

Carth: Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.


The guy in the second picture is bigger and more ripped that this dude, so the "puny" comment is LOLtastic at best.

And second, the guy's a freak of nature, yay! Also notice he's an iron-man too. Do you think he got that body by marathoning?

So explain to me how running 40+ kilometers in a single instance is actually beneficial for your health and not a stupid pissing contest. Oh wait, you can't because that's what it is, a stupid pissing contest. And no, don't tell me that such and such is healthy and ran a marathon. That's irrelevant. That person didn't get healthy by running marathons.

The only thing a marathon or ultrarun does for you is boost your ego, nothing more. The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.
 
2013-06-30 11:02:09 AM

Tallman: djZorbof: I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?

Same here! First marathon for me,(I've run a couple halves), and figure that if I do my first at a big, good race, if it winds up being my last, it'll be memorable. How's your training going?


My training involves using an app called Higdon Marathon training and doing exactly what it tells me to do. A friend used it to finish her first marathon so I figured it would work for me.

Yesterday was my first longer run and I'm feeling it. Went 6 miles without stopping, pace about 9:45/mile. I was so focused on finishing though that I did it all in one direction, which meant my dumb ass had to walk/limp 6 miles back afterwards, in the mid-day heat. So far so good but I'm feeling it today.

Today I need an hour of cardio - swim,walk, or bike
 
2013-06-30 11:11:36 AM

rocky_howard: Carth: Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.

The guy in the second picture is bigger and more ripped that this dude, so the "puny" comment is LOLtastic at best.

And second, the guy's a freak of nature, yay! Also notice he's an iron-man too. Do you think he got that body by marathoning?

So explain to me how running 40+ kilometers in a single instance is actually beneficial for your health and not a stupid pissing contest. Oh wait, you can't because that's what it is, a stupid pissing contest. And no, don't tell me that such and such is healthy and ran a marathon. That's irrelevant. That person didn't get healthy by running marathons.

The only thing a marathon or ultrarun does for you is boost your ego, nothing more. The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.



He is also a competitive powerlifter and a top proponent that endurance athletes don't need to be thin rails. Your original image and insinuation that marathoners can't be healthy and be in great shape was just stupid and provably wrong.  Yes, he is also an ironman... so a marathon is a useless pissing match but a 3.8k swim, 180k bike ride and 42k run is a good way to get in shape? That doesn't make much sense. Are you arguing that all endurance athletes are hurting themselves or just runners?

Are you trying to say elite runners (sub 2:20 marathon) are sacrificing their physical health to run? Of course they are. They're professional athletes; just like professional NFL, NHL etc players they are beating up their body to make a living. Professional sports are generally bad for your health. 

Are you trying to argue that the average person who goes out and does a marathon in 4-5+ hours is making a stupid decision? Well that is demonstrably false  as studies show most people in these groups go from limited physical activities and the training to run a marathon makes them healthier than when they started.

Maybe you mean the recreational runner who does a marathon or two a year in 3 hours is the one hurting themselves? Well again we know that people who run regularly 20-30mpw in their 30s and 40s are have less knee and joint problems when they get older so distance running again seems to be a pretty good decision.

So whether your original point was that marathoners need to be stick thin rails (they don't) or are just making themselves unhealthy (they aren't) you're wrong.
 
2013-06-30 11:34:15 AM
Long distance hikers routinely hike half marathons on the Appalachian Trail and they do it with 20 to 30 pounds on their backs over rugged mountain terrain.

/Yes, I've done this myself.
//13.1 doesn't impress me much.
///Why would anyone want to run on hard surfaces?
 
2013-06-30 12:18:51 PM

rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.


Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.
 
2013-06-30 12:47:39 PM

pjfry: rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.


Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us?
 
2013-06-30 01:58:08 PM

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


You tend to be the man who fell down at her door.
 
2013-06-30 02:57:23 PM

rocky_howard: pjfry: rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.

Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us?


It's more a statement about the nature of us as a species.  We strive to do bigger and greater things.  For some people, running a marathon is a testament to what they can overcome or push themselves to do.  Others strive for the record.  While others still want to find the next great invention (and few succeed).  I would not consider any of those empty.  Maybe running a marathon is a different goal than having a sculpted sprinters body, as depicted above, but I'm not sure how either qualifies to be any less 'empty' in your world.
 
2013-06-30 03:05:18 PM

Virtuoso80: This is suspiciously correlation = causation to me. Maybe the people who run the longer marathon do so because they can, possibly being genetically predisposed to filtering lactic acid out of their system more efficiently than the people who decide they can only do the shorter marathon?


Not at these distances. The difference between 100 miles and 200 miles is 99.6% mental.

/number out of my ass, but accurate.
 
2013-06-30 03:07:39 PM

djZorbof: I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?


There is no scientific evidence that running is bad for joints.

At worst it is a wash. At best it is a positive as generally runners have lower body weight and that leads to less arthritis.
 
2013-06-30 03:08:16 PM
I don't mind running for 3 straight days, but it's hard work posting about how much I run on facebook every hour for 362 days
 
2013-06-30 03:12:00 PM

rocky_howard: Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.


Yes... if Ryan Hall switched to sprinter training he would look like the sprinter/football player on the right. Clearly it is training and not genetics.

Life is a pissing contest and stupid will power demonstration.

And you seem to confuse "healthy" and "looks good at the beach".
 
2013-06-30 03:14:04 PM

pjfry: rocky_howard: pjfry: rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.

Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us?

It's more a statement about the nature of us as a species.  We strive to do bigger and greater things.  For some people, running a marathon is a testament to what they can overcome or push themselves to do.  Others strive for the record.  While others still want to find the next great invention (and few succeed).  I would not consider any of those empty.  Maybe running a marathon is a different goal than having a sculpted sprinters body, as depicted above, but I'm not sure how either qualifies to be any less 'empty' in your world.


You must have missed it last year - everyone voted rocky_howard as the sole person to judge whether the things you like to do have any meaning. I don't run at all, but if some person feels accomplishment by running a mile or an ultramarathon, that's fine with me. It's no skin off my neck.

But no, the next time you think you've accomplished something, you have to run it by a guy who is socially awkward and feels sorry for himself, to see if it had meaning.
 
2013-06-30 04:11:44 PM

domdare: But no, the next time you think you've accomplished something, you have to run it by a guy who is socially awkward and feels sorry for himself, to see if it had meaning.


Awww, you looked at my profile and used a quote from there. That's cute.
 
2013-06-30 04:25:59 PM

rocky_howard: Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us


That same could be said of every physical feat.


You whining about how you think it is an empty achievement sounds like sour grapes.
 
2013-06-30 04:34:27 PM

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


They get laid at the end.
 
2013-06-30 05:08:05 PM
I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.
 
2013-06-30 06:49:23 PM

Orgasmatron138: I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.


A 30 second sprint should be about 200 meters. So that is a fairly common track workout for milers, which is probably the type of endurance Average Joe should work for. Except your rest is way too long. Usually it would be sprint 200, jog 200.

A decent high schooler would jog for about a minute. And they would do about 20 of them. I know schools that do 32 repeats for 200s.
 
2013-06-30 08:01:19 PM

Orgasmatron138: I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.


If you are ever in a rush you should try a tabata.

Set the treadmill incline to 12 and the pace for 30 sec slower then your best 5k time. After it is up to speed and inclination you run for 20 sec then put your feet to the side for 10 sec. Repeat 8 times. It is killer.
 
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