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(CBS News)   Going the 200 mile distance in an ultramarathon may be healthier than stopping after 100 miles. This is great news for all five people who like to run non-stop for three straight days   (cbsnews.com) divider line 78
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2013-06-30 04:59:45 AM  

God-is-a-Taco: rocky_howard: Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

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Isn't that one the right the "disgraced" Greek chick that was disqualified for having a pro-Golden Dawn boyfriend or something?
I guess I'd rather have her body, but I'm pretty attached to my penis.


I'd rather have her body attached to my penis, if you know what I'm saying, and I think you do. ;)
 
2013-06-30 06:13:18 AM  

Wolf892: God-is-a-Taco: rocky_howard: Oh, let me say it in a language Fark can understand:

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Isn't that one the right the "disgraced" Greek chick that was disqualified for having a pro-Golden Dawn boyfriend or something?
I guess I'd rather have her body, but I'm pretty attached to my penis.

I'd rather have her body attached to my penis, if you know what I'm saying, and I think you do. ;)


You want to be a tranny?
 
2013-06-30 07:48:43 AM  

rocky_howard: Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.

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No.
 
2013-06-30 08:04:54 AM  

rocky_howard: "Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"



The distance runners you posted pictures of are marathoners.  I've run every footrace from the 100m sprint to the Run Across Georgia and I have to say that the marathon is the biatch of the bunch.  It is such a long race to run so fast and at such a high heart rate. To give you an idea, after my last marathon it took me almost two weeks before I could get back into my usual running routine.  After the last 100 miler I was back on my feet and running within a couple of days.

And yeah, ultrarunners typically look a little different than marathoners.
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2013-06-30 08:16:32 AM  
I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?
 
2013-06-30 08:48:09 AM  

Mad_Radhu: FTA: "The reason why the 200-mile runners weren't as fatigued as the 100-mile group may be due to pacing. The Tor des Geants runners averaged 3.4 miles per hour during their course, while the 100-mile runners took a faster 4.5 miles per hour pace."

I thought dropping below 4 MPH for too long bought you a ticket on The Long Walk.


Could you imagine how long that book would be if these people were in it?
 
2013-06-30 08:49:18 AM  

rocky_howard: Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.

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Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.

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2013-06-30 08:58:49 AM  

Eps05: I'll stick to 200 meters marathons

/I sound fat


if you put a gun to my head and made me run a half mile i'd explode. your fat, i has it. it took me three weeks until i discovered my heels were hurting because i crushed my sneakers and i was digging into the molded criss-cross hard rubber underneath.

/paused during typing to light up smoke, swallow a Ding Dong Bar
 
2013-06-30 10:11:20 AM  

djZorbof: I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?


Same here! First marathon for me,(I've run a couple halves), and figure that if I do my first at a big, good race, if it winds up being my last, it'll be memorable. How's your training going?
 
2013-06-30 10:34:13 AM  

Carth: Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.


The guy in the second picture is bigger and more ripped that this dude, so the "puny" comment is LOLtastic at best.

And second, the guy's a freak of nature, yay! Also notice he's an iron-man too. Do you think he got that body by marathoning?

So explain to me how running 40+ kilometers in a single instance is actually beneficial for your health and not a stupid pissing contest. Oh wait, you can't because that's what it is, a stupid pissing contest. And no, don't tell me that such and such is healthy and ran a marathon. That's irrelevant. That person didn't get healthy by running marathons.

The only thing a marathon or ultrarun does for you is boost your ego, nothing more. The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.
 
2013-06-30 11:02:09 AM  

Tallman: djZorbof: I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?

Same here! First marathon for me,(I've run a couple halves), and figure that if I do my first at a big, good race, if it winds up being my last, it'll be memorable. How's your training going?


My training involves using an app called Higdon Marathon training and doing exactly what it tells me to do. A friend used it to finish her first marathon so I figured it would work for me.

Yesterday was my first longer run and I'm feeling it. Went 6 miles without stopping, pace about 9:45/mile. I was so focused on finishing though that I did it all in one direction, which meant my dumb ass had to walk/limp 6 miles back afterwards, in the mid-day heat. So far so good but I'm feeling it today.

Today I need an hour of cardio - swim,walk, or bike
 
2013-06-30 11:11:36 AM  

rocky_howard: Carth: Marathoner, ultrarunner and Ironman Alex laughs at your puny sprinters.

The guy in the second picture is bigger and more ripped that this dude, so the "puny" comment is LOLtastic at best.

And second, the guy's a freak of nature, yay! Also notice he's an iron-man too. Do you think he got that body by marathoning?

So explain to me how running 40+ kilometers in a single instance is actually beneficial for your health and not a stupid pissing contest. Oh wait, you can't because that's what it is, a stupid pissing contest. And no, don't tell me that such and such is healthy and ran a marathon. That's irrelevant. That person didn't get healthy by running marathons.

The only thing a marathon or ultrarun does for you is boost your ego, nothing more. The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.



He is also a competitive powerlifter and a top proponent that endurance athletes don't need to be thin rails. Your original image and insinuation that marathoners can't be healthy and be in great shape was just stupid and provably wrong.  Yes, he is also an ironman... so a marathon is a useless pissing match but a 3.8k swim, 180k bike ride and 42k run is a good way to get in shape? That doesn't make much sense. Are you arguing that all endurance athletes are hurting themselves or just runners?

Are you trying to say elite runners (sub 2:20 marathon) are sacrificing their physical health to run? Of course they are. They're professional athletes; just like professional NFL, NHL etc players they are beating up their body to make a living. Professional sports are generally bad for your health. 

Are you trying to argue that the average person who goes out and does a marathon in 4-5+ hours is making a stupid decision? Well that is demonstrably false  as studies show most people in these groups go from limited physical activities and the training to run a marathon makes them healthier than when they started.

Maybe you mean the recreational runner who does a marathon or two a year in 3 hours is the one hurting themselves? Well again we know that people who run regularly 20-30mpw in their 30s and 40s are have less knee and joint problems when they get older so distance running again seems to be a pretty good decision.

So whether your original point was that marathoners need to be stick thin rails (they don't) or are just making themselves unhealthy (they aren't) you're wrong.
 
2013-06-30 11:34:15 AM  
Long distance hikers routinely hike half marathons on the Appalachian Trail and they do it with 20 to 30 pounds on their backs over rugged mountain terrain.

/Yes, I've done this myself.
//13.1 doesn't impress me much.
///Why would anyone want to run on hard surfaces?
 
2013-06-30 12:18:51 PM  

rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.


Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.
 
2013-06-30 12:47:39 PM  

pjfry: rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.


Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us?
 
2013-06-30 01:58:08 PM  

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


You tend to be the man who fell down at her door.
 
2013-06-30 02:57:23 PM  

rocky_howard: pjfry: rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.

Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us?


It's more a statement about the nature of us as a species.  We strive to do bigger and greater things.  For some people, running a marathon is a testament to what they can overcome or push themselves to do.  Others strive for the record.  While others still want to find the next great invention (and few succeed).  I would not consider any of those empty.  Maybe running a marathon is a different goal than having a sculpted sprinters body, as depicted above, but I'm not sure how either qualifies to be any less 'empty' in your world.
 
2013-06-30 03:05:18 PM  

Virtuoso80: This is suspiciously correlation = causation to me. Maybe the people who run the longer marathon do so because they can, possibly being genetically predisposed to filtering lactic acid out of their system more efficiently than the people who decide they can only do the shorter marathon?


Not at these distances. The difference between 100 miles and 200 miles is 99.6% mental.

/number out of my ass, but accurate.
 
2013-06-30 03:07:39 PM  

djZorbof: I'm currently training for the Marine Corps Marathon. It is just bucket list thing though. I can't imagine wanting to do them repeatedly. One is enough for me then moving on to something different.

/I know it is bad for my joints. Don't really care. I have autoimmune arthritis in my spine so my future is farked regardless. As the younglings say "YOLO"
//Yeah I said it. Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?


There is no scientific evidence that running is bad for joints.

At worst it is a wash. At best it is a positive as generally runners have lower body weight and that leads to less arthritis.
 
2013-06-30 03:08:16 PM  
I don't mind running for 3 straight days, but it's hard work posting about how much I run on facebook every hour for 362 days
 
2013-06-30 03:12:00 PM  

rocky_howard: Runners are funny. And by funny, I mean idiots.

"Hey, let's run to the point our bodies start consuming our own muscle mass, straining our joints to hell and making our bones brittler. Yay, health!"

Doing extensive physical activity does NOTHING to improve your health. It's just a pissing contest and stupid "willpower" demonstrations.


Yes... if Ryan Hall switched to sprinter training he would look like the sprinter/football player on the right. Clearly it is training and not genetics.

Life is a pissing contest and stupid will power demonstration.

And you seem to confuse "healthy" and "looks good at the beach".
 
2013-06-30 03:14:04 PM  

pjfry: rocky_howard: pjfry: rocky_howard: The reason behind it is the idiotic need to "achieve" something.

Isn't that the reason for pretty much every discovery, invention or scientific advance in the history of man kind?   Not sure why wanting to achieve something is idiotic.

Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us?

It's more a statement about the nature of us as a species.  We strive to do bigger and greater things.  For some people, running a marathon is a testament to what they can overcome or push themselves to do.  Others strive for the record.  While others still want to find the next great invention (and few succeed).  I would not consider any of those empty.  Maybe running a marathon is a different goal than having a sculpted sprinters body, as depicted above, but I'm not sure how either qualifies to be any less 'empty' in your world.


You must have missed it last year - everyone voted rocky_howard as the sole person to judge whether the things you like to do have any meaning. I don't run at all, but if some person feels accomplishment by running a mile or an ultramarathon, that's fine with me. It's no skin off my neck.

But no, the next time you think you've accomplished something, you have to run it by a guy who is socially awkward and feels sorry for himself, to see if it had meaning.
 
2013-06-30 04:11:44 PM  

domdare: But no, the next time you think you've accomplished something, you have to run it by a guy who is socially awkward and feels sorry for himself, to see if it had meaning.


Awww, you looked at my profile and used a quote from there. That's cute.
 
2013-06-30 04:25:59 PM  

rocky_howard: Quotes are important. It's not really an achievement. Running a marathon is an empty achievement. It's like rediscovering the wheel. What advances and discoveries have running marathons brought us


That same could be said of every physical feat.


You whining about how you think it is an empty achievement sounds like sour grapes.
 
2013-06-30 04:34:27 PM  

Robo Beat: Any studies on the effects of walking 500 miles and then walking 500 more?


They get laid at the end.
 
2013-06-30 05:08:05 PM  
I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.
 
2013-06-30 06:49:23 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.


A 30 second sprint should be about 200 meters. So that is a fairly common track workout for milers, which is probably the type of endurance Average Joe should work for. Except your rest is way too long. Usually it would be sprint 200, jog 200.

A decent high schooler would jog for about a minute. And they would do about 20 of them. I know schools that do 32 repeats for 200s.
 
2013-06-30 08:01:19 PM  

Orgasmatron138: I like mixing different types of cadio rather than sticking to one thing for too long.  Being able to run a few miles is (to me) satisfying, but I notice my explosive speed and heavy exercise cardio suffers if I jog long distance.

My best overall cardio exercise is interval cardio.  I set two speeds on the treadmill, jog and sprint.  I jog for two minutes, and sprint for 30 seconds.  I repeat as many times as I can.  My best is 8 rotations (twenty minutes).  I'd like to be able to do it for a half an hour.


If you are ever in a rush you should try a tabata.

Set the treadmill incline to 12 and the pace for 30 sec slower then your best 5k time. After it is up to speed and inclination you run for 20 sec then put your feet to the side for 10 sec. Repeat 8 times. It is killer.
 
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