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(TreeHugger)   There is only one city in America where cars have been banned since 1898. And that city is in Michigan   (treehugger.com) divider line 90
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2013-06-29 09:23:48 AM
Isn't it ironic?
 
2013-06-29 09:24:37 AM
Like rain on a wedding day...
 
2013-06-29 09:26:19 AM
It's not like you're driving there anyway...

/well, maybe in the winter...
 
2013-06-29 09:26:25 AM
Spent the weekend there a couple weeks ago.  Simple awesome.
 
2013-06-29 09:27:38 AM
That city is a dinky little island in Lake Huron that you can only get to by boat, or snowmobile if the lake is frozen. It makes sense for them to not allow cars... except ambulances.

That said, I've been there a couple of times and biking around Mackinac Island on only MI state highway with no cars is pretty fun. And the fudge is good too.

Ok subby, are you on the chamber of commerce or what?

/DNRTFA
 
2013-06-29 09:28:59 AM
Sounds like Amityville from Jaws.
 
2013-06-29 09:32:19 AM
Well, duh.  It isn't exactly a large place.  It's not like you can drive there anyway.
 
2013-06-29 09:36:39 AM
I was expecting an article about some old law that nobody follows, but nobody ever bothered to repeal
 
2013-06-29 09:38:08 AM
What about electric cars? Golf Carts? They can have ambulances and i assume fire trucks, maybe police cars but "regular people" can't own a car? Farking hippies.
 
2013-06-29 09:40:38 AM
I'm sitting in a hotel on the island...getting a kick and all that.
 
2013-06-29 09:40:45 AM
When early automobiles first arrived on the scene in the late 19th century, few people could have imagined that they would one day take over the world.

Mater
: Gee Lightning, What do you want to do tonight?

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Lightning: Same thing we do every night, Mater: Try to take over the world!
 
2013-06-29 09:44:59 AM

FabulousFreep: What about electric cars? Golf Carts? They can have ambulances and i assume fire trucks, maybe police cars but "regular people" can't own a car? Farking hippies.


If you ever have a chance, go. I think they have one ambulance and one fire truck. Maybe a police cat but I've never seen it. Once you're there, you'll understand why you wouldn't want to allow electric cars either.
 
2013-06-29 09:45:34 AM
Oops police cat would be pretty awesome.
 
2013-06-29 09:52:09 AM
Surprised at the lack of haters in this thread.

If you hate Mackinac Island you truly are a terrible human being.
 
2013-06-29 09:52:46 AM
Beautiful place. I love it. I don't go nearly enough. Even honeymooned there.

I don't know if they were trying to make any kind of larger point in TFA. But to think it is anything but a big recreation area they are mistaken. You can't take your car into Disneyworld either.

The island is an anomaly not a blueprint for the future.
 
2013-06-29 09:53:01 AM

bopis: Isn't it ironic?


Why?  Very few cars were ever manufactured on Mackinac Island.
 
2013-06-29 09:54:32 AM
Mackinac Island... All the transportation is horses.  All they make is fudge.  Hmmmm...

/Tim Allen, IIRC
 
2013-06-29 09:54:37 AM

megarian: I'm sitting in a hotel on the island...getting a kick and all that.


Have some fudge for me.  I can highly recommend a visit to any of you who haven't been there.

/and yes, there are ambulances and fire trucks
 
2013-06-29 09:57:47 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: megarian: I'm sitting in a hotel on the island...getting a kick and all that.

Have some fudge for me.  I can highly recommend a visit to any of you who haven't been there.

/and yes, there are ambulances and fire trucks


and police cats
 
2013-06-29 09:59:14 AM
it's a great trip. I recommend it to anyone that pull themselves off a sofa, and doesn't recoil at the thought of biking and horse drawn carriages.

fun fact: UPS delivers to the island via ferry, and from the pier, a UPS branded horse drawn cart takes the cargo to the sole distribution building, and from there, UPS branded bike carts make the deliveries.
 
2013-06-29 10:01:54 AM
Been there a couple times.  It's fun, if a little touristy.

HexMadroom: fun fact: UPS delivers to the island via ferry, and from the pier, a UPS branded horse drawn cart takes the cargo to the sole distribution building, and from there, UPS branded bike carts make the deliveries.


I've seen the FedEx "truck" making its rounds.  Also a horse and cart.
 
2013-06-29 10:01:55 AM

Lady Beryl Ersatz-Wendigo: megarian: I'm sitting in a hotel on the island...getting a kick and all that.

Have some fudge for me.  I can highly recommend a visit to any of you who haven't been there.

/and yes, there are ambulances and fire trucks


My pleasure!!!

(My next stop is Torch Lake to finally get the goddamn dock in the lake. MI summers are pretty fantastic.)
 
2013-06-29 10:04:46 AM

picturescrazy: FabulousFreep: What about electric cars? Golf Carts? They can have ambulances and i assume fire trucks, maybe police cars but "regular people" can't own a car? Farking hippies.

If you ever have a chance, go. I think they have one ambulance and one fire truck. Maybe a police cat but I've never seen it. Once you're there, you'll understand why you wouldn't want to allow electric cars either.


There is also a front end loader and a large trash hauler for hauling stuff down to the barge landing.  And there is a small airfield you can fly into, but it is well hidden away from the touristy stuff.

There is a civil war battlefield in the middle of the island, and a cool ass-fort.
 
2013-06-29 10:06:29 AM
And here I've always thought to myself: "Why would I ever want to visit Michigan?"  I just found my new vacation destination.
 
2013-06-29 10:08:26 AM
Mackinac is nice.  It's half 'ZOMG NO CARS' and half older housewives still schlicking to Somewhere In Time, which was filmed there.  Decent movie, had a young and still quite pretty Christopher Reeve starring in it.

Also, the fudge was fan-farking-tastic.
 
2013-06-29 10:09:41 AM

forteblast: That city is a dinky little island in Lake Huron that you can only get to by boat, or snowmobile if the lake is frozen.

[snip]


Not so. You can also get there by airplane, and then take a horse-drawn taxi by airplane. I've even done it in a  PiperArrow.
 
2013-06-29 10:16:17 AM
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2013-06-29 10:17:07 AM

KhamanV: Mackinac is nice.  It's half 'ZOMG NO CARS' and half older housewives still schlicking to Somewhere In Time, which was filmed there.  Decent movie, had a young and still quite pretty Christopher Reeve starring in it.

Also, the fudge was fan-farking-tastic.


He was pretty dreamy in that movie...

But yeah. The fudge...oh lord...

/sounds fat
//nom nom
 
2013-06-29 10:17:18 AM
The Island provides employment for a lot of young teamsters - the original kind that drives horses instead of trucks.  Not a lot of places where a young kid wanting to drive horses for a living can find a job these days.  A lot of them have figured out by the end of a season that they'd like to grow up and do something else.  A few find what they want to do for the rest of their lives.  But there are not a lot of places where they can figure that out anymore.

And, while the Island is idyllic and survives quite nicely without automobiles, it's only because it is small and supplied by boats that come from places where they do have cars and every other convenience.  It's a lot easier living in horse and buggy days with electricity, modern communications, and other conveniences of 21st century life.
 
2013-06-29 10:19:29 AM
The biking is very nice, and there are some pretty buildings. However, the whole town (not as bad away from town) smells like horse shiat. I suppose they're quieter than all the diesel mobiles we let into our lives, but the whole time I felt surrounded by horse poo. I guess that's quaint?

Apparently US cities by the late 1800's were practically swimming in the stuff. In light of that, long live the automobile.
 
2013-06-29 10:19:33 AM
Same deal on Fire Island.
 
2013-06-29 10:20:32 AM
SPIFFY tag is doing the Picard gesture.
What about skateboards?
THOSE INFERNAL PLANKS!!!

Seems like a nice place.
There should be more of them.
 
2013-06-29 10:21:20 AM

picturescrazy: Oops police cat would be pretty awesome.


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2013-06-29 10:21:40 AM
Being from Michigan, and having been to Mackinac Island every summer for 12 years straight, I knew the answer without reading the article.  It's a quaint little town, and fun to walk around in.  And the best fudge EVER.
 
2013-06-29 10:22:49 AM
If you like no car islands in flyover country, try Rock Island in WI as well. No cars. No fudge. No stores or fire trucks or police cats or horses. Just nice coastline and great camping.
 
2013-06-29 10:23:18 AM

loser0: [25.media.tumblr.com image 498x688]


That's some fine sleepin there, Lou.

\trying to imagine how a police cat would spend its day...
 
2013-06-29 10:26:02 AM
Oh, and at the risk of being contrary, the fudge is somewhat meh. It's too sugary and the texture is closer to thick frosting than the meatier texture I prefer. But my mom's been making fudge from scratch for years, so I just might be spoiled.

I've been meaning to try making it sometime. Somehow the knowledge of how very bad it is for me slows me down.
 
2013-06-29 10:27:53 AM
If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.
 
2013-06-29 10:31:55 AM
Cars are also forbidden in Venice: The city "floats" atop the Venetian Lagoon upon centuries-old wood pilings which cannot handle car traffic. There's a parking garage on the edge of the island but all other transit in the city must be made by other means. It makes for a unique satellite view as the streets are too narrow for car traffic.
 
2013-06-29 10:36:54 AM

Wise_Guy: Same deal on Fire Island.


Yeah, I was going to say: aren't cars banned on Catalina Island as well (I know they do allow golf carts there).
 
2013-06-29 10:40:15 AM

generallyso: Cars are also forbidden in Venice: The city "floats" atop the Venetian Lagoon upon centuries-old wood pilings which cannot handle car traffic. There's a parking garage on the edge of the island but all other transit in the city must be made by other means. It makes for a unique satellite view as the streets are too narrow for car traffic.


It's mostly the fact that the sidewalks and bridges were built for pedestrians which has led to cars being banned, as there's simply be no way to drive most places on the islands.

They need to ban motor boats, as the vibrations are shaking the piles and causing the city to settle, but they're the way real Venetians get around, so that's a non-starter.
 
2013-06-29 10:43:10 AM

doczoidberg: If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.


wasn't there a "king of beaver island" or something like that?

/too lazy to google
 
2013-06-29 10:44:49 AM

bopis: Isn't it ironic?


No, that sounds more like coincidence....
ironic is like when it's horrible weather outside, and I step outside and say...."Oh what a beautiful day!"
 
2013-06-29 10:45:23 AM
I went there in '82 when I was 7. My dad wouldn't rent horses for us, we had to ride bikes. I had a nice time but don't think I ever tried the fudge.
 
2013-06-29 10:45:48 AM

doczoidberg: If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.


Last time i was home I went to south Manitou Island. I want to camp on North Manitou next time.
 
2013-06-29 10:49:23 AM

HexMadroom: doczoidberg: If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.

wasn't there a "king of beaver island" or something like that?

/too lazy to google


Yep, James Strang. He was also formed his own Morman sect.
 
2013-06-29 10:50:49 AM

bopis: Isn't it ironic?


Only if you're not from Michigan and you think the state is just Detroit.
 
2013-06-29 10:57:12 AM

doczoidberg: If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.


I've been. Only accessible by ferry, but the ferry takes cars.  The island is pretty and woodsy--the only major drawback is the vast choking clouds of blood-lusting mosquitoes.
 
2013-06-29 10:57:24 AM

NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: There is a civil war battlefield in the middle of the island, and a cool ass-fort.


You misspelt "War of 1812".

Fort Michilimackinac. As long as you're there, you have to go to Fort Mackinac on the mainland, too.
 
2013-06-29 10:58:34 AM
Saw Michigan, knew it was Mackinac Island.  Beautiful place.
 
2013-06-29 10:58:51 AM
Dat fudge yo...
 
2013-06-29 10:59:48 AM

Qellaqan: The biking is very nice, and there are some pretty buildings. However, the whole town (not as bad away from town) smells like horse shiat. I suppose they're quieter than all the diesel mobiles we let into our lives, but the whole time I felt surrounded by horse poo. I guess that's quaint?
Apparently US cities by the late 1800's were practically swimming in the stuff. In light of that, long live the automobile.


In 1890 there were over 150,000 horses in New York City. Each horse averages 22 lbs of manure a day. That is 1500 tons a day. First it is all over the street, then someone had to shovel it up and cart it out of town. How is that for a lovely job. And those carts must have been a smell to remember. At least all the surrounding farms had plenty of fertilizer. But, yeah, long live the automobile.
 
2013-06-29 11:00:30 AM

PiperArrow: Not so. You can also get there by airplane, and then take a horse-drawn taxi by airplane. I've even done it in a PiperArrow.


I was generalizing. The airport only serves private and charter airplanes, no commercial airlines. Most people aren't going to get there that way.
 
2013-06-29 11:06:02 AM

bopis: Isn't it ironic?


Michigan's biggest industry and history has roots in Automotive, Michigan has the only city that has banned autos since 1898. I think irony works here fine.
 
2013-06-29 11:11:48 AM

forteblast: PiperArrow: Not so. You can also get there by airplane, and then take a horse-drawn taxi by airplane. I've even done it in a PiperArrow.

I was generalizing. The airport only serves private and charter airplanes, no commercial airlines. Most people aren't going to get there that way.


Nice way to spend the day there.  Packed the bikes in the back of our C172.  Landed on the island, spent the day biking and looking around, left in the evening.  The cost of the ferry ride almost offsets the cost of the 100LL fuel.
 
2013-06-29 11:42:45 AM

PiperArrow: forteblast: That city is a dinky little island in Lake Huron that you can only get to by boat, or snowmobile if the lake is frozen.

[snip]

Not so. You can also get there by airplane, and then take a horse-drawn taxi by airplane. I've even done it in a  PiperArrow.


Me, too.  Several times.

I made the mistake of flying up in March because it was all Spring and chirping birds when I left further south.
They still had snow piled up 7 feet.    Then the snow squalls started blowing southeast from Lake Superior.  I was stuck for half a week.  I got cabin fever.

I discovered a secret:Off season they drive snowmobiles and the construction crews working on the Grand Hotel have cars and trucks.  They bring materials in by barge, but they have flown in Italian tile a load at a time.

I met two youngsters who were hired to baby sit the Mission Hotel.  I asked if they had seen The Shining.  They think of it all the time.
 
2013-06-29 11:45:27 AM

The_Philosopher_King: Qellaqan: The biking is very nice, and there are some pretty buildings. However, the whole town (not as bad away from town) smells like horse shiat. I suppose they're quieter than all the diesel mobiles we let into our lives, but the whole time I felt surrounded by horse poo. I guess that's quaint?
Apparently US cities by the late 1800's were practically swimming in the stuff. In light of that, long live the automobile.

In 1890 there were over 150,000 horses in New York City. Each horse averages 22 lbs of manure a day. That is 1500 tons a day. First it is all over the street, then someone had to shovel it up and cart it out of town. How is that for a lovely job. And those carts must have been a smell to remember. At least all the surrounding farms had plenty of fertilizer. But, yeah, long live the automobile.


There were more horses in NYC than anywhere else at the time. The horse manure was not really a big problem. Their rotting carcasses were the real issue. That is cause for real stench and disease to boot. Working horses would often drop dead on the streets and then what could you do? You left it there for the city to deal with. The city could not keep up with the problem. Long live the bicycle!
/Mackinac sounds wonderful.
 
2013-06-29 11:47:11 AM

forteblast: PiperArrow: Not so. You can also get there by airplane, and then take a horse-drawn taxi by airplane. I've even done it in a PiperArrow.

I was generalizing. The airport only serves private and charter airplanes, no commercial airlines. Most people aren't going to get there that way.


Sure they can.  The charter is effectively a scheduled service flying 260HP (not 300HP - need the useful load) Cherokee Sixes.  They have sign up sheets for the next flight in the FBO.

http://www.mackinac.com/about/getting-here/by-air

http://www.greatlakesair.net/
 
2013-06-29 11:48:09 AM

Cool, now I know where to go when the broom arrives.



www.imcdb.org
 
2013-06-29 11:59:11 AM

Tellingthem: doczoidberg: If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.

Last time i was home I went to south Manitou Island. I want to camp on North Manitou next time.


My brother is going to north next weekend.  Jealous.
 
2013-06-29 12:05:22 PM
 
2013-06-29 12:12:00 PM

StreetlightInTheGhetto: Tellingthem: doczoidberg: If you want to visit an interesting island in Michigan, go to Beaver Island.

I'm not kidding. Look it up.

Last time i was home I went to south Manitou Island. I want to camp on North Manitou next time.

My brother is going to north next weekend.  Jealous.


I'll be going up there in a couple weeks, but I'll be staying on the mainland. I'll wave from across Sleeping Bear Bay. I have done day trips to South Manitou, you get surprisingly good cell reception.
 
2013-06-29 12:15:44 PM
Macinac right? Love their fudge. Always picked it up on the way to the UP
 
2013-06-29 12:42:38 PM
Biking on an island in Lake Huron mid-January?

Fark that.
 
2013-06-29 12:45:07 PM
Bald Head NC is also this way. Just golf carts and bikes.
 
2013-06-29 12:53:00 PM
Been there multiple times including last summer. It's really odd to see mail & FedEx being delivered by horse. The fudge is very good.

I noticed that the whole island's staff in all the shops seems to be Russian or some similar country....really weird. Michigan has a crappy economy yet they are importing in foreign workers?
 
2013-06-29 01:19:17 PM
City???

InigoMontoya.jpeg
 
2013-06-29 01:26:26 PM

KawaiiNot: Been there multiple times including last summer. It's really odd to see mail & FedEx being delivered by horse. The fudge is very good.

I noticed that the whole island's staff in all the shops seems to be Russian or some similar country....really weird. Michigan has a crappy economy yet they are importing in foreign workers?


Some are seasonal workers, from what little I learned from a few that were conversational with us. soon as the season ended there, some were headed to Cancun, Cozumel, and the like. Some others were international students working over the summer to pay for their school.

the important part to remember is they all work cheap, and that's why they're working it and you aren't.
 
2013-06-29 01:28:06 PM

CoonAce: City???

InigoMontoya.jpeg


Yes, and not the smallest one in the state, either.

Metropolis, no; but legally a city.
 
2013-06-29 01:29:26 PM

KawaiiNot: I noticed that the whole island's staff in all the shops seems to be Russian or some similar country...


Could have been yoopers, eh? Similar land and accent.
 
2013-06-29 01:50:25 PM

forteblast: That city is a dinky little island in Lake Huron that you can only get to by boat, or snowmobile if the lake is frozen. It makes sense for them to not allow cars... except ambulances.

That said, I've been there a couple of times and biking around Mackinac Island on only MI state highway with no cars is pretty fun. And the fudge is good too.

Ok subby, are you on the chamber of commerce or what?

/DNRTFA


I think they have a tractor or truck that tows a trailer around to pick up the trash and that's about it for vehicles that get used regularly.
 
2013-06-29 01:59:12 PM
Worked there one summer while in high school.  My job was to clean up all the horse shiat on the streets.  Worse job ever. Got stinking drunk every night.

/Beautiful island
//There are a few motor vehicles on the island- ambulances, fire trucks, etc.
///I still can't eat fudge without thinking of horse shiat
 
2013-06-29 02:00:01 PM
/DRTFA
 
2013-06-29 03:33:22 PM
I was just on the Island last weekend for my birthday.  I love going mountain biking very early in the morning.  You can't really get lost (its an island after all), very few other people out at that time, and the only noises are nature and horse hoofs clopping on the street in the town.  Pretty frickin sweet.

/and the fudge is great too
//don't stay at the Grand Hotel, they rip off their employees
 
2013-06-29 05:08:49 PM

loser0: NIXON YOU DOLT!!!!!: There is a civil war battlefield in the middle of the island, and a cool ass-fort.

You misspelt "War of 1812".

Fort Michilimackinac. As long as you're there, you have to go to Fort Mackinac on the mainland, too.


Got 'em backwards, son.  Michilimackinac is the one on the mainland.  It's also an active archaeological site.

/and the giftshop is directly underneath the Mackinac Bridge!
 
2013-06-29 05:17:28 PM
Worked there driving a tour carriage one summer. Like someone above, got drunk nearly every night.

- 60-80 hours a week, no overtime cause its a 'farming job'.
- My horses were Bill and Ted, had the most excellent tour.
- The dorm/housing was next to the police station, and was quite amused seeing people getting hauled to jail in the baskets on the front of the police bikes.
- Got pulled over for speeding on a bike. They "let me go with a warning"
- Worked there the same summer as the SI sports swimsuit models were there. Never saw a model that I know of.
- Snowed on the 4th of July.

/csb
 
2013-06-29 05:19:14 PM
Doe's not approve.
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2013-06-29 06:02:47 PM

mutterfark: Cool, now I know where to go when the broom arrives.

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But you would have to swim there and get pass the circling ferry boats.  Which are a bit fast compared to swimming, so you might not stand a chance.  Then if you do make it, there are a few trucks like mentioned before.  However they also have a couple trucks for the utility company.
 
2013-06-29 07:26:01 PM
Went there once As A Child, more than a lifetime ago.  Was nice then, hope it mostly still is.  Tnx for rt-clickie-able pix of Police Cats, both of yez!
 
2013-06-29 07:27:22 PM
No cars, but walking isn't safe anyway. If the bikes & horses don't run ya over, the hordes of other pedestrians will. And that was 20 years ago... haven't been back since. They don't have much for sale that any other town doesn't sell for half the cost.
 
2013-06-29 08:14:42 PM
Can't hear the name without thinking of this:

Twelve hours out of mackinaw city
Stopped in a bar to have a brew
Met a girl and we had a few drinks
And I told her what I'd decided to do
She looked out the window a long long moment
Then she looked into my eyes
She didn't have to say a thing,
I knew what she was thinkin'

From the best Bob Seger song ever
 
2013-06-29 10:10:41 PM
they have a police car, an ambulance and a fire engine. Only civilian cars are banned.
 
2013-06-29 10:45:19 PM

peewinkle: Worked there one summer while in high school.  My job was to clean up all the horse shiat on the streets.  Worse job ever. Got stinking drunk every night.

/Beautiful island
//There are a few motor vehicles on the island- ambulances, fire trucks, etc.
///I still can't eat fudge without thinking of horse shiat


There still can't be nearly as much horse puckey as there is in the Politics tab.
 
2013-06-29 10:49:41 PM
I've been there.  It's a beautiful place, but it smells like horse shiate.
 
2013-06-29 11:13:53 PM
As a Michigan resident I never understood the relationship of fudge and Mackinaw.  So, last year while on vacation I looked into it.

Turns out tourism to Mackinaw Island picked up about the same time as fudge came to the US.  It took a while to spread, but it's basically a complete coincidence that the two happened about the same time and it just stuck with Mackinaw.  It wasn't invented there, none of the ingredients are local, nothing like that.  Just pure plain dumb coincidence that they both "hit" at the same time.
 
2013-06-30 12:42:32 AM
I'm too lazy to look it up but I heard it was the only place in the world that has a 24 hour horse drawn taxi service.  Also headed there in a few days for the 4th so getting a kick, etc.
 
2013-06-30 04:31:29 AM
Wonderful Island is Mackinac...Let's keep it that way !!
 
2013-06-30 07:47:38 AM
Is this the same Michigan that used to be a state?
 
2013-06-30 01:54:26 PM

Deadwing: Can't hear the name without thinking of this:

Twelve hours out of mackinaw city
Stopped in a bar to have a brew
Met a girl and we had a few drinks
And I told her what I'd decided to do
She looked out the window a long long moment
Then she looked into my eyes
She didn't have to say a thing,
I knew what she was thinkin'

From the best Bob Seger song ever


...and that city would be Rochester, MN.
 
2013-06-30 05:37:50 PM
is it Detroit?
 
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