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(BBC)   Whatever happened to those cute, blue, one person cars for disabled people? "I had a few go on fire on me, so you'd stop and other motorists would drag you out as the thing went up in flames." Oh   (bbc.co.uk) divider line 37
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ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-29 09:02:08 AM  
In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.
 
2013-06-29 09:46:44 AM  

ZAZ: effectively a retroactive application of a standard,


A drug, to name just one thing, is an example of a thing that can later be discovered to be harmful, and the government then bans it. Seems like a good idea.

I find it odd that anyone thinks the disabled  want to trundle about in specially identifiable vehicles. They might prefer to just blend in and get on with life.
 
2013-06-29 11:12:55 AM  
www.chud.com
 
2013-06-29 11:14:16 AM  
I would much rather have a Peel Trident.

homepage.ntlworld.com
 
2013-06-29 11:18:21 AM  

ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.


The CJ5 came very close thanks to some creative testing procedures and shady journalism. And stupid people.
 
2013-06-29 11:19:37 AM  

ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.


All Invacars were owned by the government and leased to disabled drivers as part of their disability benefit.

That makes it pretty easy for them to take them back.
 
2013-06-29 11:20:54 AM  
It probably had the handling of a Reliant Robin and the ability to catch fire like a Lamborghini or Ferrari.

Sounds like a true automotive legend.
 
2013-06-29 11:25:25 AM  
That is an ugly farking car.


Thank god we didn't have those in the US. I would have never gotten laid driving one of those.


site.allinonemobility-shop.com

A much more practical and aesthetically pleasing solution.
 
2013-06-29 11:26:30 AM  

ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.


51 deaths compared to 2.7 million affected Jeeps. The Crown Vic had at least 135 OMFGfire deaths in law enforcement alone.  Whether or not a recall was warranted... a debate could have been made, except that the government gets what it wants (if you're not a bank or a law firm). A ban of Jeeps would have been a bit of overreach.
 
2013-06-29 11:27:01 AM  

ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.


Yeah you can still own a Pinto or a Corvair if you are into that sort of thing. If Im gonna ride a death trap its gonna have 2 wheels.
 
2013-06-29 11:29:36 AM  
It surprises me how many times Europeans have built three wheeled cars backward and then realized they're dangerous.

The two wheels go in the front.

I'm sure they'll introduce a new one next year, then complain it's unsafe.
 
2013-06-29 11:32:28 AM  
They should give them all Reliant Robins.  Perfectly safe cars.

pics.imcdb.org
 
2013-06-29 11:33:59 AM  
The scariest vehicle I've ever rode was a Kawasaki triple.

Picture a bike that is like 'busa quick but in a cafe style frame instead of a modern crotch rocket frame.
 
2013-06-29 11:36:33 AM  
"I had a few go on fire on me, so you'd stop and other motorists would drag you out as the thing went up in flames."

Luxury.

We used to have to get up at 3 am the previous Saturday, dowse ourselves in petrol then roll on surplus shrapnel till a spark caught us on fire. And we were grateful. Especially when dad would beat the flames out with wood chipper.
 
2013-06-29 11:37:03 AM  
 
2013-06-29 11:44:03 AM  
What?
Speak American damn it
 
2013-06-29 11:45:49 AM  

Glitchwerks: It probably had the handling of a Reliant Robin and the ability to catch fire like a Lamborghini or Ferrari.

Sounds like a true automotive legend.


I didn't realize (realise?) these weren't Reliant Robins. I thought the "Invacars" were simply the oldest version. I passed one years back on a bicycle in Yorkshire going up a hill. I passed a different one going down a hill in Cumbria.

Speaking of Robins, they are capable of sporting truck nuts:

silodrome.com
 
2013-06-29 11:47:08 AM  
They were never "Cute", subby.
 
2013-06-29 11:48:00 AM  
Remember the Pinto? I saw a restored one on the road, the other day. Who the hell restores a Pinto?
 
2013-06-29 11:49:59 AM  
For a number of years, governments had been put under pressure from disability campaigners who felt the one-person cars were unhelpfully antisocial.

[disapproving psych prof stare]

Antisocial? The cars caused their drivers to lose the capacity to care about the rights and feelings of others?

[\disapproving psych prof stare]
 
2013-06-29 11:56:33 AM  
Most motability scheme cars are not used by, or for the benefit of disabled people. Same goes for disabled parking. They're both just subsidised benefits of being some sort of relation to a crippled person.
 
2013-06-29 12:22:01 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Remember the Pinto? I saw a restored one on the road, the other day. Who the hell restores a Pinto?


Paris Jackson?
 
2013-06-29 12:31:56 PM  

Begoggle: What?
Speak American damn it


THIS!

"Noddy cars" " half a sack of King Edwards "

static.comicvine.com
 
2013-06-29 12:53:25 PM  
 
2013-06-29 01:06:57 PM  
www.carsguide.com.au
 
2013-06-29 01:07:27 PM  

thelordofcheese: Relevant.


That thing is a boat.  I prefer compact cars.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJfSS0ZXYdo
 
2013-06-29 01:20:17 PM  

ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.


The government apparently owned nearly everyone of these cars, leasing them to people. Thus the 'ban' consisted of the government collecting them.

Much like the EV1 that GM leased to people. GM owned the cars and when the engineering exercise was over it collected them and crushed them. (not a conspiracy theory, blame the product liability lawyers and the fact that GM couldn't financially justify supporting them with parts in private hands)

legion_of_doo: The Crown Vic had at least 135 OMFGfire deaths in law enforcement alone.


Crown vics were being rear ended at speeds of 70+ mph and had a high exposure rate to such crashes.
The crown vic was also a 1970s design. With CAFE fundamentally redesigning the car was too risky financially at any given time IMO. At least two years development time and then the platform would have to last to be financially viable. At the end of the day nobody could predict if it the CAFE numbers would work out 7 years down the road.
 
2013-06-29 01:31:44 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Remember the Pinto? I saw a restored one on the road, the other day. Who the hell restores a Pinto?


A few years back I saw an immaculate orange Pinto in the Dominican Republic.  It looked better than a showroom car.
 
2013-06-29 01:39:41 PM  

Sin_City_Superhero: Remember the Pinto? I saw a restored one on the road, the other day. Who the hell restores a Pinto?


Usually with a car like a Pinto it's a good condition original.

Often a car for some reason was put away when it had relatively low mileage and forgotten about. Sometimes it was owned by someone who didn't drive much and kept it in a garage.

An example of such:
http://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2013/04/22/hemmings-find-of-the-d ay -1978-ford-pinto-cruising-wagon/
 
2013-06-29 02:18:23 PM  

DigitalCoffee: Begoggle: What?
Speak American damn it

THIS!

"Noddy cars" " half a sack of King Edwards "

[static.comicvine.com image 320x320]


Noddy - A children's character, created by Enid Blyton. He used to drive around in a little red car
Kind Edwards - A variety of Potato
Sack - A bag
half - .5 of a thing
 
2013-06-29 02:31:00 PM  
There is absolutely nothing inherently unsafe about the Pinto.
Their tendency to catch on fire was yet another example of yellow journalism and fear mongering.
 
2013-06-29 03:14:18 PM  

hasty ambush: [www.carsguide.com.au image 650x366]


That's what I was looking for!
 
2013-06-29 04:08:36 PM  

Valiente: Glitchwerks: It probably had the handling of a Reliant Robin and the ability to catch fire like a Lamborghini or Ferrari.

Sounds like a true automotive legend.

I didn't realize (realise?) these weren't Reliant Robins. I thought the "Invacars" were simply the oldest version. I passed one years back on a bicycle in Yorkshire going up a hill. I passed a different one going down a hill in Cumbria.

Speaking of Robins, they are capable of sporting truck nuts:

[silodrome.com image 850x637]


Oh sweet christ ... where can I get me one?

(at the business end of your own welding torch, fool)
 
2013-06-29 06:17:05 PM  

Oldiron_79: ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.

Yeah you can still own a Pinto or a Corvair if you are into that sort of thing. If Im gonna ride a death trap its gonna have 2 wheels.


*sigh*  By the time Ralph Nader published his book, GM had fixed most of the handling problems associated with the early Corvairs.  A lot of it also had to do with Americans drivers who by and large knew nothing but the FR platform being unfamiliar with the unique handling characteristics of the RR platform, as the only other RR cars on the road in the US at the time were VW products and a few Porsches.

Sad, really, the Corvair was a really cool car.
 
2013-06-29 06:33:37 PM  
Are these those neat little mostly empty electric cars you can drive a wheelchair into and drive away without getting out of the wheelchair?
 
2013-06-29 07:46:44 PM  

Oldiron_79: ZAZ: In America it's very rare to outright ban a car that was legally sold and met standards at the time of sale.  I can't think of an example. The recent Jeep recall is close, because it is effectively a retroactive application of a standard, but the expectation is the cars will stay on the road.

Yeah you can still own a Pinto or a Corvair if you are into that sort of thing. If Im gonna ride a death trap its gonna have 2 wheels.


i260.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-30 02:25:51 PM  
Valiente : Speaking of Robins, they are capable of sporting truck nuts:

Rugged robin?

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