Wolf_Blitzer: iheartscotch: Wolf_Blitzer: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: If only you wouldn't have to carry it up a mile vertically on donkeys, Subby. You're never been there, have you?The article says that the shortage is at Phantom Ranch, which is at the bottom of the canyon.Phantom ranch is a very cool place. It's a dozen or so limestone buildings at the bottom of the canyon. The buildings are probably 100 years old; built out of local materials.The thing that makes it really cool is, everything there goes down on mules. The trash comes back up on mules. Everything from the forks to the bunks came down on a mule; as there is no other cost effective way to get anything to the bottom./ you can book a night at the bottom; the reservation service opens 6 months in advance and fills in days if not hours.// if you do go to the canyon, do not attempt to go rim to river and back in one day; it's not Disney world and people still die on the trailI was there (Grand Canyon, not Phantom Ranch) last November, which is a great time to go as long as there's not a ton of snow on the rim. I can't imagine trying to hike there this time of year, the heat in the inner gorge has to be brutal. I stopped at the recommended day-hike turnaround point, so rim to river is still on my bucket list (screw that, if I get the chance I'll do the full Kaibab trail North-to-South Rim). Amazing place.
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