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2013-06-28 09:02:55 PM
How the hell did the human race survive without hand sanitizer?
 
2013-06-28 09:02:56 PM
At least they're not hiding in your Boobies.
 
2013-06-28 09:03:58 PM
Sensational!
 
2013-06-28 09:05:13 PM
They've traced the problem to the EPA's foolproof-water-saving unbypassable rinse water retaining and recycling tanks in all new dishwashers.
 
2013-06-28 09:06:42 PM
It's time we stop coddling those with weakened immune systems.
 
2013-06-28 09:10:33 PM
dry your shiat.  dry your shiat.  dry your shiat.  air drying is good enough don't just assume that since it had soap on it nothing can grow on it dry your shiat.
 
2013-06-28 09:10:37 PM
I wish I had a dishwasher that could expose me to deadly bacteria!

Lucky bastards...
 
2013-06-28 09:11:47 PM
especially this shiat

my1039phoenix.com

don't leave it wet or I keel you
 
2013-06-28 09:12:14 PM
There are disease-causing germs hiding in your anus.

/DNRTFA
 
2013-06-28 09:14:48 PM
Or fungi, whatever!

I can haz dishwasher now?
 
2013-06-28 09:22:27 PM
I don't own a dishwasher, which is fine by me because they always smell...off.
 
2013-06-28 09:22:34 PM
It's the fungus among us

phillydrifter: At least they're not hiding in your Boobies.


s24.postimg.org
just had to..
 
2013-06-28 09:25:21 PM
"We gotta get outta here!"
 
2013-06-28 09:31:50 PM
Bad news I guess if your wife washes the dishes.
 
2013-06-28 09:32:03 PM
Photo shows dishwasher full of suds.  That means they're doing it wrong.
 
2013-06-28 09:44:48 PM
I can never remember the product name, but there's something out there that's basically a bunch of citric acid that will do a cleaning number on the inside of a dishwasher. So if the baddies have gotten used to hot alkaline then a dose of hot acid should scrub them out.

Oh, and I leave the dishwasher and my clothes washer open when not in use. Minimizes mildew problems.
 
2013-06-28 09:50:16 PM

wildcardjack: I can never remember the product name, but there's something out there that's basically a bunch of citric acid that will do a cleaning number on the inside of a dishwasher. So if the baddies have gotten used to hot alkaline then a dose of hot acid should scrub them out.

Oh, and I leave the dishwasher and my clothes washer open when not in use. Minimizes mildew problems.


Lemi-shine sounds like what you're talking about. Some chemist ran a bunch of tests on it and it turned out to be citric acid hemihydrate, has a pH of around 2. Awesome stuff for keeping hard water stains off of your dishes too, since all detergents seem to be phosphate free. With the really hard water we have, I throw a little in with every load...works like a charm.
 
2013-06-28 09:52:56 PM
Half a cup of bleach.
Half a cup of Tang.
Your model may vary.
 
2013-06-28 09:53:30 PM
Spoiler towards the end of the "article":

To clarify, there is yet no direct relationship established between dishwashers and human fungal infections, but the health hazard exists.
 
2013-06-28 09:54:25 PM
I clean my dishwasher with high test hydrogen peroxide and iron chloride. Anything that survives is pretty much my superior anyway, so I will just pledge allegiance to it and get it over with.
 
2013-06-28 10:11:26 PM
Get a Bosch. Quiet, efficient, and treats germs like Polish Jews.
 
2013-06-28 10:12:51 PM

That Guy in the Dos Equis Commercials: Get a Bosch. Quiet, efficient, and treats germs like Polish Jews.


great, now Israel has an excuse to take all of our forks.
 
2013-06-28 10:15:23 PM

SwiftFox: They've traced the problem to the EPA's foolproof-water-saving unbypassable rinse water retaining and recycling tanks in all new dishwashers.


Tell you what. I just redid my whole kitchen after gutting it to the studs. The dishwasher that I took out was the one the place was built with in 1978 or so. It washed great. The brand new one? Won't wash a farkin clean glass for nothin. Piece of shiat. Can't stand it. Oh it's quiet and has all those new fangled delay wash, sanitize this and that but I'd rather have the old loud ass one back any day.
 
2013-06-28 10:20:27 PM
Spins Wheel dishwasher?

Glad I'm not so old fashioned. My dishwasher works by throwing darts and rolling dice to ensure those perfect levels of germ free cleaning

/tired meme is tired
 
2013-06-28 10:23:59 PM
Who would have guessed that a place that contains dirty dishes crusted over with food would also contain bacteria as well?
 
2013-06-28 10:34:44 PM
These researchers also studied the genetic signatures of these black yeasts, and found one type that had specialised in invading urban households.

What I envisioned.......
theshadowassasins.webs.com
 
2013-06-28 10:35:36 PM

buzzcut73: wildcardjack: I can never remember the product name, but there's something out there that's basically a bunch of citric acid that will do a cleaning number on the inside of a dishwasher. So if the baddies have gotten used to hot alkaline then a dose of hot acid should scrub them out.

Oh, and I leave the dishwasher and my clothes washer open when not in use. Minimizes mildew problems.

Lemi-shine sounds like what you're talking about. Some chemist ran a bunch of tests on it and it turned out to be citric acid hemihydrate, has a pH of around 2. Awesome stuff for keeping hard water stains off of your dishes too, since all detergents seem to be phosphate free. With the really hard water we have, I throw a little in with every load...works like a charm.


I use Cascade institutional in my dishwasher. Lots and lots of phosphates. I get it at GFS, about $7 a box.

Works awesomely.
 
2013-06-28 10:50:35 PM
Benjimin_Dover:
Tell you what. I just redid my whole kitchen after gutting it to the studs. The dishwasher that I took out was the one the place was built with in 1978 or so. It washed great. The brand new one? Won't wash a farkin clean glass for nothin. Piece of shiat. Can't stand it. Oh it's quiet and has all those new fangled delay wash, sanitize this and that but I'd rather have the old loud ass one back any day.

What brand? I'm really happy with my Electrolux... Except that when I don't always have enough dishes to wash, they'll sit in the washer for a day or two, and start to stink or grow stuff. The dishwasher is so well insulated, if you don't open it, it'll stay warm after a wash well into the next day.
 
2013-06-28 10:52:25 PM

Plant Rights Activist: especially this shiat

[my1039phoenix.com image 300x199]

don't leave it wet or I keel you


What's wrong with the scruffy sponge?  That's what I use a lot.  Many times with just hot water.
 
2013-06-28 10:54:42 PM

Benjimin_Dover: SwiftFox: They've traced the problem to the EPA's foolproof-water-saving unbypassable rinse water retaining and recycling tanks in all new dishwashers.

Tell you what. I just redid my whole kitchen after gutting it to the studs. The dishwasher that I took out was the one the place was built with in 1978 or so. It washed great. The brand new one? Won't wash a farkin clean glass for nothin. Piece of shiat. Can't stand it. Oh it's quiet and has all those new fangled delay wash, sanitize this and that but I'd rather have the old loud ass one back any day.


My dishwasher broke and was replaced by the newer model. The newer model has fewer features like insulation and the ability to run the drying cycle again after the first time just left warm wet dishes. It also takes 3 hours for the normal, hi-temp mode, slightly less for the plain normal cycle. We started setting the delay start so we didn't have to listen to it run for 3 hours but even that didn't work. Now we try to start it as we leave the house because it is so annoying. My parents' dishwasher, otoh, is almost silent and does the same job in in 30 minutes.
 
2013-06-28 10:59:56 PM

wildcardjack: I can never remember the product name, but there's something out there that's basically a bunch of citric acid that will do a cleaning number on the inside of a dishwasher. So if the baddies have gotten used to hot alkaline then a dose of hot acid should scrub them out.

Oh, and I leave the dishwasher and my clothes washer open when not in use. Minimizes mildew problems.


A cheap and easy substitute, if you want to clean out a dishwasher, is to grab a packet of unsweetened Koolaid lemonade. It's basically just citric acid and gets out a lot of grime and sediment stains.

It never hurts to run a cycle with some distilled vinegar too.
 
2013-06-28 11:02:57 PM
I run a cup of bleach  in my dishwasher, empty, about once a month.
 
2013-06-28 11:07:25 PM
/csb
I got a new dishwasher and refrigidezzer (and oven) about 12 years ago from the appliance store.  The guys that installed it were so pissed that the refrigidezzer fit into the space but didn't fit through the door and they had to take the doors off of it to get it through.  Then they were pissed off again because the dishwasher was one of the expanded capacity ones with the lower floor and they can't reach any of the fittings easily.
They got them in, after a while but now the dishwasher doesn't work so well.  I think I'll try the Lemi-Shine, it's got good-great reviews on amazon and it's not too expensive.
/hard water
\csb
 
2013-06-28 11:08:10 PM

Badgers: Spoiler towards the end of the "article":

To clarify, there is yet no direct relationship established between dishwashers and human fungal infections, but the health hazard exists.


A couple of other problems with the article:

In the 2011 study, European investigators sampled 189 dishwashers from around the world. The presence of some mould or yeast could be detected in about 62% of these samples.
...
In the most recent study, Turkish investigators sampled 153 dishwashers, in addition to other appliances, and found similar results.  Almost one in five dishwashers yielded fungi,


So,62% is "similar" to 20%?

And....

The researchers also found that the calcium-content of water seemed to play a role in the growth and persistence of the black yeasts

So, calcium-content plays a role?  Does high calcium encourage growth or does low calcium encourage growth?


I'm not going to worry too much about this
 
2013-06-28 11:15:52 PM
THEY'RE EVERYWHERE NOW STOP USING THE GODDAMN SCARY TAG FOR EVERY STORY ABOUT BACTERIA
 
2013-06-28 11:18:11 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net

Fear not. Soon, we shall all be delivered through the blessed stink of clean.
 
Ral
2013-06-28 11:22:51 PM
I'm not terribly impressed by a sample size of 189 dishwashers.
 
2013-06-29 12:11:25 AM

Badgers: Spoiler towards the end of the "article":

To clarify, there is yet no direct relationship established between dishwashers and human fungal infections, but the health hazard exists.


BUT THERE MIGHT BE SO LET'S MAKE SURE EVERYONE PANICS ANYWAY!!!!!!
 
2013-06-29 12:15:52 AM
BLEACH
 
2013-06-29 12:24:27 AM

ski9600: Plant Rights Activist: especially this shiat

[my1039phoenix.com image 300x199]

don't leave it wet or I keel you

What's wrong with the scruffy sponge?  That's what I use a lot.  Many times with just hot water.


Yes and I put mine in the dishwasher to sanitize it....guess I'm doing it wrong if the dishwasher has all these germs.
 
2013-06-29 12:31:49 AM

KimNorth: BLEACH


Battery acid. Hell, I set off a small tactical nuke in my dishwasher at least twice a week. Only way to be sure.
 
2013-06-29 01:13:15 AM

KimNorth: ski9600: Plant Rights Activist: especially this shiat

[my1039phoenix.com image 300x199]

don't leave it wet or I keel you

What's wrong with the scruffy sponge?  That's what I use a lot.  Many times with just hot water.

Yes and I put mine in the dishwasher to sanitize it....guess I'm doing it wrong if the dishwasher has all these germs.


The best way to keep the sponge germ free is to microwave it for 30 seconds whenever you are done washing dishes.

/seriously, microwave your sponge
// I'm not making shiat up or trying to burn your house down
 
2013-06-29 01:31:12 AM
Yet you can wrap up some salmon in foil and cook it perfectly in your dishwasher.
 
2013-06-29 01:37:59 AM
Try using soap and hot water now and then.
 
2013-06-29 02:03:34 AM
When I first moved into a house with no dishwasher 2 years ago I was like WTF, I'll buy one.  Now that I know what I know, I'm perfectly happy washing dishes by hand, cleaning and sanitizing the fridge 2x a year along with the oh so cheerful 2-3 times yearly "vacuuming of the coils" my old man performs and the pulling out, cleaning of every single small and large appliance every month.  It is gross, but better than doing it once a year or perhaps never.  Sometimes I hate my job, but I don't hate it any worse than my day job and at least I get help with the appliances and things.  And yet, still gross what accumulates in there *shudder*
 
2013-06-29 04:45:37 AM
Did you ever notice that people who freak out about germs seem to always be sick or have something wrong with them like bad allergies?

Immune systems are just like muscles, use them or lose them.
 
2013-06-29 04:52:58 AM

ski9600: Plant Rights Activist: especially this shiat

[my1039phoenix.com image 300x199]

don't leave it wet or I keel you

What's wrong with the scruffy sponge?  That's what I use a lot.  Many times with just hot water.


Soap is the perfect disinfectant. No bacteria will ever become immune to it. Just use soap.
 
2013-06-29 06:38:29 AM

KimNorth: What's wrong with the scruffy sponge?  That's what I use a lot.  Many times with just hot water.

Yes and I put mine in the dishwasher to sanitize it....guess I'm doing it wrong if the dishwasher has all these germs.


You are doing it wrong according to the internet that only makes them look clean.  You have to use the microwave to actually kill germs.

http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/food-poisoning/news/20070124/micro wa ve-kills-germs-sponges
 
2013-06-29 09:39:02 AM
Plant Rights Activist:

my1039phoenix.com

You're supposed to leave those things in the very bottom of the dishwasher to get sterilized.
 
2013-06-29 09:43:39 AM
Does the author understand percentages?

I"n the 2011 study, European investigators sampled 189 dishwashers from around the world. The presence of some mould or yeast could be detected in about 62% of these samples....In the most recent study, Turkish investigators sampled 153 dishwashers, in addition to other appliances, and found similar results. Almost one in five dishwashers yielded fungi, mostly black yeasts."
 
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