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(IndyStar)   Police officer tasked with euthanizing wounded deer. Does he: c) Break down in tears, say he "can't do it," and hand his duty firearm to a random bystander?   (indystar.com) divider line 26
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2013-06-28 09:06:44 PM  
14 votes:
So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.
2013-06-28 09:36:54 PM  
10 votes:

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.
2013-06-28 09:28:09 PM  
5 votes:

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


I'm fairly certain that simply being a human being is against procedure in every farking police department in the country.
2013-06-28 09:44:56 PM  
4 votes:
Cop sounds like he's a decent human being.

/Surrendering hiis piece was kinda dumb tho.
2013-06-29 02:46:53 AM  
2 votes:
A police officer has a conscience and you idiots have a problem with it?

Do the world a favor and...

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2013-06-29 12:28:33 AM  
2 votes:

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


On one hand, yes. But in this case, it's totally understandable and no-one got screwed.

Policing may not be for this man, as he has a conscience.
2013-06-28 10:49:32 PM  
2 votes:
So they found the one cop in America that couldn't wait to shoot something. Seriously though, giving up his gun to some random stranger should get him fired. Also, killing the deer was probably the humane thing to do
2013-06-29 07:11:47 AM  
1 votes:

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


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I agree, I seldom come to this site any longer, only when I am bored with absolutely nothing else to do.  No great loss for me or Drew.

/not going to pay to read the same people make the same stupid arguments over and over and over
//Fark jumped the shark a long time ago, that is why Drew needs the sponsored links now, not enough people crazy enough to pay for this crap
2013-06-29 03:23:26 AM  
1 votes:

seventypercent: EvilRacistNaziFascist: I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.

Do you really equate "law enforcement" with "killing living things?"


Not in the slightest. I equate law enforcement with the willingness to consider oneself ready to take human life if absolutely necessary, but not otherwise.
2013-06-29 02:45:24 AM  
1 votes:
I stomped a fledgling starling to death the other day. Malformed, and it had to be done. Still sucked watiching it squirm with a smooshed face after the first stomp.

I could kill, and have, my own meat.

Killing should never be too happy or exciting an experience. Enjoying the hunt is not the same as lovong the result.

Props to this cop for compassion; I thought that was what farkers wanted from their law enorcement...
2013-06-29 02:40:16 AM  
1 votes:

taurusowner: sethen320: That being said, a defenseless animal is different from a hostile, armed human.  Self-preservation takes over at that point.

Not always. Not even most of the time. Many just freeze up. I've seen fellow cops and soldiers just sit there and do nothing when the bullets were flying in their direction. Training is the only thing that can overcome that. Conditioning yourself to just react, and react properly. Something I've heard many times from some very experienced and knowledgeable instructors in the military/LE/firearms world "When your life is threatened, you will not rise to the occasion. You will fall back on your training."

What does that have to do with shooting an injured deer? Not much. I'm just responding to the "self-preservation takes over" idea. Unfortunately with many people, no it doesn't. And you never really know if you will until you face it. I've seen some of the toughest talking hard-asses downright refuse to get out of the truck and return fire when their buddies were getting shot at. And I've seen the quietest WoW playing introverts act as calm and cool as can be, doing their jobs with expert precision. You just never really know until it happens.


I know where you're going. I agree, no matter the circumstances it is never easy. I have been in a situation where I almost had to shoot someone and I DID NOT WANT TO. Now that I'm wiser I would atill have priblems with it, but I would survive.

All of the ITGs who say they're going to just shoot anyone who walks into their house have no idea as to what they are saying until it happens. Most people will probably forget they even have a gun.
2013-06-29 02:14:06 AM  
1 votes:
I witnessed a similar event first hand when I was a teen. NY State Trooper - transferred six hours to the sticks from somewhere down by NYC. He'd been an officer for almost two decades - scraped pieces parts off the road; held people while they died, been shot at, used his weapon in the line of duty, been to house fires where people died, (it's been over 30 years for me and all I have to do is think of the smell and I'm right there).

And yet, when a semi's brakes failed and ran into an Amish buggy - shoving it up and over the horse - the animal laying in the street screaming, limbs broken, skin torn.... He handed his weapon to my father's friend to put the animal down; he couldn't do it.

/Friend was an old farmer in his 60's. He did the job and handed the weapon back. Then we helped clear the animal from the traces to clear the road. Amish father and his daughter were shaken up, but unharmed btw. Maybe it was different times, but nobody thought less of the man; it certainly wasn't 'news'.
2013-06-29 02:09:15 AM  
1 votes:

sethen320: That being said, a defenseless animal is different from a hostile, armed human.  Self-preservation takes over at that point.


Not always. Not even most of the time. Many just freeze up. I've seen fellow cops and soldiers just sit there and do nothing when the bullets were flying in their direction. Training is the only thing that can overcome that. Conditioning yourself to just react, and react properly. Something I've heard many times from some very experienced and knowledgeable instructors in the military/LE/firearms world "When your life is threatened, you will not rise to the occasion. You will fall back on your training."

What does that have to do with shooting an injured deer? Not much. I'm just responding to the "self-preservation takes over" idea. Unfortunately with many people, no it doesn't. And you never really know if you will until you face it. I've seen some of the toughest talking hard-asses downright refuse to get out of the truck and return fire when their buddies were getting shot at. And I've seen the quietest WoW playing introverts act as calm and cool as can be, doing their jobs with expert precision. You just never really know until it happens.
2013-06-29 02:07:40 AM  
1 votes:
Torn on this one. On the one hand as an ex-vet I will tell you the ability to kill isn't as common as movies would lead you to believe. It has an emotional toll you wouldn't believe and it's a smarter type who realizes that before taking the life.

On the other hand if you carry a gun and your job might require you to take one human life to save others then the fact that you can't bring yourself to humanely end the life of an animal is concerning.
2013-06-29 01:49:22 AM  
1 votes:

EvilRacistNaziFascist: I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


Do you really equate "law enforcement" with "killing living things?"

That's a wee bit disturbing.
2013-06-29 01:37:03 AM  
1 votes:
So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on
2013-06-29 01:30:09 AM  
1 votes:

mialynneb: I'm glad that an officer feels so strongly about taking any life - that's the kind of person that should be an officer.


Right on.
2013-06-29 01:23:31 AM  
1 votes:
I live in Indy and had to comment on the article. I feel badly for the officer that there's an investigation.  Yeah, maybe handing his service revolver to a citizen wasn't a great decision, but he obviously has a huge heart and was deeply affected by this.  Some may say oh it's just a deer, but I would be a god damn wreck if that was me.  I'm glad that an officer feels so strongly about taking any life - that's the kind of person that should be an officer.
2013-06-29 01:23:01 AM  
1 votes:
Putting down a mortally wounded animal is the humane thing to do, but often it is a very difficult thing to do.

I'll give this guy all due credit for having an abundance of human empathy. This is a quality that's not exactly common in many police forces around the US. However, I'm not sure that handing a loaded service revolver to a nearby bystander is the best way to resolve a situation like this.

I feel bad for this guy. Maybe he could become a veterinarian? That's an extremely honorable (and if you're the right kind of person, rewarding) line of work, and it seems like he'd be well-suited for it.
2013-06-29 12:58:54 AM  
1 votes:
I don't know if he should be fired (though certainly disciplined heavily), but he should probably quit. Giving his firearm to a random person shows a severe lack of judgement and an inability to keep cool on the job. I work as a cop in Michigan and I've had to do this to a deer before. Depending on the area, we generally try to get animal control or the DNR to do it, but sometimes in the middle of the night you're the only one around who can. It's not fun but it needs to be done. Leaving a deer there on the side of the road wheezing in pain with blood running from its mouth is just sick. At the end of the day, nothing is going to save it. It's not a choice between shooting the dear and nursing it back to health in some sappy Disney-esque manner. It's a choice between a quick death and hours of drawn out pain. This officer failed to do his job. He should be reprimanded. He gave up his firearm to a passerby. That should certainly result in some punitive action.
2013-06-29 12:52:48 AM  
1 votes:

picturescrazy: My choices were to do that, or let it suffer in shock for awhile before dying on its own. You can still be a human being and put down an animal. Besides, everyone's big problem is that he gave his gun to a stranger.


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2013-06-29 12:37:00 AM  
1 votes:

doglover: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

On one hand, yes. But in this case, it's totally understandable and no-one got screwed.

Policing may not be for this man, as he has a conscience.


So mercy killing a wounded animal = not having a conscience?

You're right though, policing isn't really for him if he can't handle something like that. You're trusting him with a tool that can easily kill, and he hands it to a random person while breaking down? C'mon, man.

Does it suck? Yes, but it's the humane thing to do. And yes, I've had to do that to a whitetail that had its hind legs destroyed by an 18-wheeler. Pulled over on the road to our lease, apologized to it for its shiatty luck, and ended its pain. I didn't smile and I didn't cry. The only solace I took was knowing it wasn't suffering anymore.
2013-06-29 12:32:56 AM  
1 votes:
If you hit a deer, make sure that muhfuh is dead-dead, else you wind up bit in the neck and in a phone booth at the stop n go with a muhfun dog wanting your deer. Whose deer is it? Mine, or the dog's? These are the questions.
2013-06-29 12:27:28 AM  
1 votes:
HA HA! We hired a human being as a police officer instead of a sociopathic status-abuser! HA HA!
2013-06-28 10:33:59 PM  
1 votes:

Wall_of_Doodoo: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


Nicely said.
2013-06-28 09:17:31 PM  
1 votes:
I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.
 
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