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(IndyStar)   Police officer tasked with euthanizing wounded deer. Does he: c) Break down in tears, say he "can't do it," and hand his duty firearm to a random bystander?   (indystar.com) divider line 197
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2013-06-28 09:06:44 PM
So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.
 
2013-06-28 09:17:31 PM
I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.
 
2013-06-28 09:28:09 PM

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


I'm fairly certain that simply being a human being is against procedure in every farking police department in the country.
 
2013-06-28 09:33:02 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


media.tumblr.com

/Feels appropriate
 
2013-06-28 09:36:54 PM

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.
 
2013-06-28 09:44:56 PM
Cop sounds like he's a decent human being.

/Surrendering hiis piece was kinda dumb tho.
 
2013-06-28 09:56:03 PM

scottydoesntknow: Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.



/Feels appropriate


So http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVvtmkTPh xc

Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.
 
2013-06-28 09:58:38 PM
I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.
 
2013-06-28 10:29:32 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: scottydoesntknow: Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.

/Feels appropriate

So http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVvtmkTPh xc

Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.


Based on your post to Lsherm, I'm going to assume you're manstruating right now. Sit down on the couch, curl up with a good book and a big pint of Haagen-Dasz, and realize sometimes the internet doesn't go your way.
 
2013-06-28 10:30:24 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: scottydoesntknow: Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.

/Feels appropriate

So http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVvtmkTPh xc

Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.


Aww it threw away my picture

media.tumblr.com

There we go.
 
2013-06-28 10:33:59 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


Nicely said.
 
2013-06-28 10:43:28 PM
Most cops would plant the 12 pack on her if they made a "mistake". To quote one officer about 25 years ago: "We don't make mistakes; you made the mistake."
 
2013-06-28 10:49:32 PM
So they found the one cop in America that couldn't wait to shoot something. Seriously though, giving up his gun to some random stranger should get him fired. Also, killing the deer was probably the humane thing to do
 
2013-06-28 10:52:53 PM
Or perhaps I was responding to a different thread.
 
2013-06-29 12:24:03 AM
I guess it was a white tailed deer then?
 
2013-06-29 12:27:28 AM
HA HA! We hired a human being as a police officer instead of a sociopathic status-abuser! HA HA!
 
2013-06-29 12:28:25 AM

whatshisname: I guess it was a white tailed deer then?


We know it wasn't a blacktail!
 
2013-06-29 12:28:33 AM

Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


On one hand, yes. But in this case, it's totally understandable and no-one got screwed.

Policing may not be for this man, as he has a conscience.
 
2013-06-29 12:32:56 AM
If you hit a deer, make sure that muhfuh is dead-dead, else you wind up bit in the neck and in a phone booth at the stop n go with a muhfun dog wanting your deer. Whose deer is it? Mine, or the dog's? These are the questions.
 
2013-06-29 12:34:53 AM
I'm assuming I'd be correct in saying the deer wasn't black?
 
2013-06-29 12:37:00 AM

doglover: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

On one hand, yes. But in this case, it's totally understandable and no-one got screwed.

Policing may not be for this man, as he has a conscience.


So mercy killing a wounded animal = not having a conscience?

You're right though, policing isn't really for him if he can't handle something like that. You're trusting him with a tool that can easily kill, and he hands it to a random person while breaking down? C'mon, man.

Does it suck? Yes, but it's the humane thing to do. And yes, I've had to do that to a whitetail that had its hind legs destroyed by an 18-wheeler. Pulled over on the road to our lease, apologized to it for its shiatty luck, and ended its pain. I didn't smile and I didn't cry. The only solace I took was knowing it wasn't suffering anymore.
 
2013-06-29 12:39:01 AM
Too bad they didn't have this guy at the scene:

Cop Shot Litter of Kittens in Front of Screaming Children
 
2013-06-29 12:41:00 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.


Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.
 
2013-06-29 12:41:36 AM

RealAmericanHero: Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.


you're*
 
2013-06-29 12:47:55 AM

sporkme: If you hit a deer, make sure that muhfuh is dead-dead, else you wind up bit in the neck and in a phone booth at the stop n go with a muhfun dog wanting your deer. Whose deer is it? Mine, or the dog's? These are the questions.


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2013-06-29 12:49:52 AM
So he not only broke down crying and handed someone ELSE his gun, but he also passed up on delicious dear venison?

Lynching is too good for this guy.
 
2013-06-29 12:51:23 AM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: HA HA! We hired a human being as a police officer instead of a sociopathic status-abuser! HA HA!


I love animals. We have two dogs and a cat. If we didn't have the cat we'd probably get birds. And even though I eat meat, I couldn't do the killing myself.

That said, when I came home and found a rabbit on my driveway that was shaking and missing the skin off its back (I assume a cat's doing but I'll never know) I did what had to be done. I smacked it on the head with a shovel because that was the quickest and most humane way I had of killing it. My choices were to do that, or let it suffer in shock for awhile before dying on its own. You can still be a human being and put down an animal. Besides, everyone's big problem is that he gave his gun to a stranger.
 
2013-06-29 12:52:21 AM

MurphyMurphy: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

I'm fairly certain that simply being a human being is against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


/thread
 
2013-06-29 12:52:48 AM

picturescrazy: My choices were to do that, or let it suffer in shock for awhile before dying on its own. You can still be a human being and put down an animal. Besides, everyone's big problem is that he gave his gun to a stranger.


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2013-06-29 12:53:21 AM
He look, a cop that isn't a completely empty husk.

Well, at least not yet.
 
2013-06-29 12:54:54 AM

NickelP: I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.


Thanks, Affirmative Action!
 
2013-06-29 12:55:05 AM

hardinparamedic: picturescrazy: My choices were to do that, or let it suffer in shock for awhile before dying on its own. You can still be a human being and put down an animal. Besides, everyone's big problem is that he gave his gun to a stranger.


I have no idea what that's from, I think it's making fun of me, and it still made me laugh.
 
2013-06-29 12:56:26 AM
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2013-06-29 12:57:31 AM
Pretend it's a black dude.
 
2013-06-29 12:57:46 AM

picturescrazy: have no idea what that's from, I think it's making fun of me, and it still made me laugh.


It's from this. For some reason I had it in my head that you exploded a rabbit.
 
2013-06-29 12:58:54 AM
I don't know if he should be fired (though certainly disciplined heavily), but he should probably quit. Giving his firearm to a random person shows a severe lack of judgement and an inability to keep cool on the job. I work as a cop in Michigan and I've had to do this to a deer before. Depending on the area, we generally try to get animal control or the DNR to do it, but sometimes in the middle of the night you're the only one around who can. It's not fun but it needs to be done. Leaving a deer there on the side of the road wheezing in pain with blood running from its mouth is just sick. At the end of the day, nothing is going to save it. It's not a choice between shooting the dear and nursing it back to health in some sappy Disney-esque manner. It's a choice between a quick death and hours of drawn out pain. This officer failed to do his job. He should be reprimanded. He gave up his firearm to a passerby. That should certainly result in some punitive action.
 
2013-06-29 01:01:24 AM
I saw a wounded wild deer put down, and I'm not sure if I could do it.  I can't throw stones at this guy.
 
2013-06-29 01:02:33 AM
That guy is definetly not from Wisconsin.  If he was he'd be asking (after he shot it) if he can take the carcass to the nearest butcher.

Deer makes tasty venison, sausages, etc!
 
Poe
2013-06-29 01:02:59 AM
My dad took care of a dying rabbit for a cop once when I was a kid.  Cop was going to use his duty weapon, but the thing was huddled up against a stone wall, and there was a risk of a ricochet.  Dad dispatched it with a .22 Short, which was what he had planned to do in the first place when he called the cops, just wanted the cop there first so the neighbors didn't freak out at the sight of a man with a rifle.
 
2013-06-29 01:03:26 AM

RealAmericanHero: Wall_of_Doodoo: Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.

Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.


Seriously?  Stop whining.

If you wanna be enemies that's fine.  Just don't be a crybaby.
 
2013-06-29 01:05:42 AM
In other news "tasked with" is this generation's most lazy phrase.
 
2013-06-29 01:06:11 AM

NickelP: I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.


I would have no problem shooting a person compared to an animal.
 
2013-06-29 01:07:06 AM

Peter von Nostrand: Seriously though, giving up his gun to some random stranger should get him fired.


Dude, it's Indi-farking-ana. That's like the Canada of the Midwest. They probably apologized for giving the gun back without breaking it down and cleaning it first.
 
2013-06-29 01:07:40 AM

scottydoesntknow: You're trusting him with a tool that can easily kill, and he hands it to a random person


It's almost like every citizen of America has the right to bear arms, or something.

I don't see any problems with an officer giving his service weapon to a stranger per se. There's potential problems if it's stolen and used in another crime etc, but life ain't the movies and a cop's gun is really just another gun. Often they're not even very good guns.

So I while I see what you're getting at, I respectfully disagree.
 
2013-06-29 01:07:53 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


qft
 
2013-06-29 01:12:20 AM
I had to do that once. Only it wasn't a deer.

It was my brother.

He was older than me and I always looked up to him, even though he was severely retarded (or "challenged", as we say now - this was decades ago). He always had an instinct to protect me and I sensed it, like when he knocked over the barbeque grill just as I was reaching for it, or when he tackled Mom to keep her from forcing down my medicine (without which I might have died, but of course Isaac couldn't have understood that.)

And when we went on a hike, and were both trapped in a rockslide, he thought of nothing but freeing me, bloodying his fingers and tearing off his nails to uncover my bruised legs while his lay broken beneath the boulders, until at last I crawled free and promised him I'd return.

We'd been there for days: the searchers never found us, throats parched, suffering.

So I brought Dad's rifle back and shot him.
 
2013-06-29 01:13:35 AM
Holy shiat, I read your post totally wrong. BRAIN FART!

Yeah, cops shouldn't break down when they have to kill animals. But it's a lot easier to shoot a man than a cute widdle fuzzy maminal that just got run over by a truck and is looking at you with them big critter eyes as if asking you "Why does it hurt when I try to run from you?"

It takes a bit of hardness to give the coup de grace to that fuzzy critter that you don't need to light up a scumbag who's about to shoot you. Adrenaline blows all that away.

I'd have been able to shoot it. But I'd have drunk... a lot later.
 
2013-06-29 01:14:54 AM

sethen320: RealAmericanHero: Wall_of_Doodoo: Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.

Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.

Seriously?  Stop whining.

If you wanna be enemies that's fine.  Just don't be a crybaby.


Awww I'm sure you guys are gonna have great makeup sex.
 
2013-06-29 01:15:43 AM
This man isn't enough of a sociopath to ever make it as a police officer.....
 
2013-06-29 01:18:38 AM
I think its more ridiculous that the guy told the cop he had a permit for a handgun in the house, and before he got back, the cop handed his service weapon to someone in the crowd.

Hahaha. A permit to simply own a handgun.
 
2013-06-29 01:21:35 AM

doglover: I'd have been able to shoot it. But I'd have drunk... a lot later.


Ohh definitely, and I did slam a few down that evening. But I would've hated myself if I left it there.
 
2013-06-29 01:23:01 AM
Putting down a mortally wounded animal is the humane thing to do, but often it is a very difficult thing to do.

I'll give this guy all due credit for having an abundance of human empathy. This is a quality that's not exactly common in many police forces around the US. However, I'm not sure that handing a loaded service revolver to a nearby bystander is the best way to resolve a situation like this.

I feel bad for this guy. Maybe he could become a veterinarian? That's an extremely honorable (and if you're the right kind of person, rewarding) line of work, and it seems like he'd be well-suited for it.
 
2013-06-29 01:23:12 AM
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2013-06-29 01:23:30 AM
That job can devour the wrong person.
 
2013-06-29 01:23:31 AM
I live in Indy and had to comment on the article. I feel badly for the officer that there's an investigation.  Yeah, maybe handing his service revolver to a citizen wasn't a great decision, but he obviously has a huge heart and was deeply affected by this.  Some may say oh it's just a deer, but I would be a god damn wreck if that was me.  I'm glad that an officer feels so strongly about taking any life - that's the kind of person that should be an officer.
 
2013-06-29 01:25:27 AM

eventhelosers: sethen320: RealAmericanHero: Wall_of_Doodoo: Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.

Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.

Seriously?  Stop whining.

If you wanna be enemies that's fine.  Just don't be a crybaby.

Awww I'm sure you guys are gonna have great makeup sex.


I would love to come back with something witty but that was too good.  You saw the shot and you took it.  I can't blame you for it and I applaud the result.
 
2013-06-29 01:30:09 AM

mialynneb: I'm glad that an officer feels so strongly about taking any life - that's the kind of person that should be an officer.


Right on.
 
2013-06-29 01:30:20 AM

wallywam1: Peter von Nostrand: Seriously though, giving up his gun to some random stranger should get him fired.

Dude, it's Indi-farking-ana. That's like the Canada of the Midwest. They probably apologized for giving the gun back without breaking it down and cleaning it first.


LOL no. You don't know Indiana.  Hoosier Hospitality (TM) is a thing of the past. Maybe even a myth to begin with.
 
2013-06-29 01:30:24 AM
^^This. :(
 
2013-06-29 01:31:16 AM
I have always said that I would never be a part of "euthanizing" an animal on moral grounds.  I've never actually had to do it before, so it was easy to say. This morning I had to help my parents take their dog (13 yrs old) to the vet for this and I can absolutely say they did the right thing.  If the animal is truly suffering then this is definitely the right thing to do, but I would not enjoy it.  I can understand where the cop was coming from.  I don't really fault him for not having the stomach for it.

/I always get annoyed by the people who say stuff like "I'd rather pay for the bullet and put my dog down then pay the vet $500 for surgery".  Why do you even have a pet?
 
2013-06-29 01:32:54 AM

mialynneb: wallywam1: Peter von Nostrand: Seriously though, giving up his gun to some random stranger should get him fired.

Dude, it's Indi-farking-ana. That's like the Canada of the Midwest. They probably apologized for giving the gun back without breaking it down and cleaning it first.

LOL no. You don't know Indiana.  Hoosier Hospitality (TM) is a thing of the past. Maybe even a myth to begin with.


Off-topic, but I used to live in Indiana (Angola).  I was there for about a year.  I have never seen such racism in my life...and I'm from Texas.  It's REALLY bad up there.
 
2013-06-29 01:33:34 AM
If there were skittles and an Arizona Iced Tea can near the deer, the officer would have emptied the clip, no questions asked.
 
2013-06-29 01:34:37 AM

Matthew Keene: If there were skittles and an Arizona Iced Tea can near the deer, the officer would have emptied the clip, no questions asked.


I think you mean "Neighborhood watch captain" or something like that...
 
2013-06-29 01:35:19 AM
Had to put down a deer that was caught in my fence. I will admit I wasn't prepared for the mess. I made the first mistake of forgetting that a hollow point was in the chamber.

My brother hit a bull on the highway a year or so ago, and another farmer came by who ended up putting the bull down since it was blocking the road and in obvious pain. The officer told me that he had no problem with the guy putting the bull down instead of him because the paperwork was "almost as much or more than if he had shot a person." Let a bystander do it and you get to go home on time. It was 2AM so the bystanders consisted of me, my brother, and this other guy who had a .357 in his truck.
 
2013-06-29 01:37:03 AM
So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on
 
2013-06-29 01:38:52 AM

sethen320: I have always said that I would never be a part of "euthanizing" an animal on moral grounds.  I've never actually had to do it before, so it was easy to say. This morning I had to help my parents take their dog (13 yrs old) to the vet for this and I can absolutely say they did the right thing.  If the animal is truly suffering then this is definitely the right thing to do, but I would not enjoy it.  I can understand where the cop was coming from.  I don't really fault him for not having the stomach for it.

/I always get annoyed by the people who say stuff like "I'd rather pay for the bullet and put my dog down then pay the vet $500 for surgery".  Why do you even have a pet?


Just an FYI for the future: there's a lot of programs popping up in cities where they'll do the deed at your house. Makes it much easier to deal with when you don't have to stress them out with the transport and vet area. We had to do that to my parent's dog a few weeks ago. It was tough, but her being able to just calmly go to sleep in her bed made it a lot easier. They also did a paw print in clay which was cool.
 
2013-06-29 01:42:53 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


why does everything have to get reported on now days.  back in the day you saw or did whatever it was and went on with your life. not "hey look at me I put $5 in the red kettle at christmas"
 
2013-06-29 01:43:47 AM
wahhhhhhhhhh i'm not going to shoot the deer because I'm apparently a sadist who wants the deer to suffer wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

what an irrational person

//euthanasia is a routine part of hunting (for meat, not sport). Use a second shot to put an animal out of its misery, or you are a dick.
 
2013-06-29 01:46:50 AM

EvilAvatar: So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on


I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.
 
2013-06-29 01:48:27 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: scottydoesntknow: Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.

/Feels appropriate

So http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yVvtmkTPh xc

Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.


Why should he/she be cleaver when you weren't?  Random bit of homophobia?  Really?
 
2013-06-29 01:48:58 AM
I look at a deer and I only see delicious.
 
2013-06-29 01:49:02 AM

Waldo Pepper: why does everything have to get reported on now days.  back in the day you saw or did whatever it was and went on with your life. not "hey look at me I put $5 in the red kettle at christmas"


You must not go online much, or have kids. I don't want to frighten you, but there's this website called facebook... or twitter... or
 
2013-06-29 01:49:22 AM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


Do you really equate "law enforcement" with "killing living things?"

That's a wee bit disturbing.
 
2013-06-29 01:50:57 AM

scottydoesntknow: sethen320: I have always said that I would never be a part of "euthanizing" an animal on moral grounds.  I've never actually had to do it before, so it was easy to say. This morning I had to help my parents take their dog (13 yrs old) to the vet for this and I can absolutely say they did the right thing.  If the animal is truly suffering then this is definitely the right thing to do, but I would not enjoy it.  I can understand where the cop was coming from.  I don't really fault him for not having the stomach for it.

/I always get annoyed by the people who say stuff like "I'd rather pay for the bullet and put my dog down then pay the vet $500 for surgery".  Why do you even have a pet?

Just an FYI for the future: there's a lot of programs popping up in cities where they'll do the deed at your house. Makes it much easier to deal with when you don't have to stress them out with the transport and vet area. We had to do that to my parent's dog a few weeks ago. It was tough, but her being able to just calmly go to sleep in her bed made it a lot easier. They also did a paw print in clay which was cool.


Thanks.  My biggest thing was hoping he wasn't scared.  I can see the value in a program like that.  It definitely made for a weird Friday morning.  I was about to drive through the gate when I found out so I turned around to help them.  Afterward I just got lunch and went to work...and when people asked why I was in a bad mood I told them and got comments like "You paid a vet to kill a dog?  I would have done it for half that with my .22".  I just kind of gave them "Um...thanks, I'll keep that in mind".

But I digress.  The deer was right there and the gun was the only tool available.  It is definitely a much more traumatic experience, I'm sure.  I don't blame the cop for not being able to do it, I would have the same problem.

That being said, a defenseless animal is different from a hostile, armed human.  Self-preservation takes over at that point.  I don't think his inability to shoot a wounded animal translates to bad guys.
 
2013-06-29 01:53:06 AM
My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found her.

There have been a few times that I have killed animals to rescue them from further suffering, but that beloved hunting dog of lore is the source of ny compassion, and the trash running dog is the source of my detachment.
 
2013-06-29 01:53:08 AM

hardinparamedic: picturescrazy: have no idea what that's from, I think it's making fun of me, and it still made me laugh.

It's from this. For some reason I had it in my head that you exploded a rabbit.


No chit. At least we know...cop will not shoot what she/he thinks is a deer. Thereore, "deer" costume is safe!


/Thanks for the tip! I promise to spend all my Halloween mischief-making activities to when I'm in a full-wolf moon costume.
/"Hey man...do you got  a three-cent stamp? Because I got the .43-centt stamps, but I'm a little short right now...
 
2013-06-29 01:54:29 AM

doglover: but life ain't the movies


Wanna know how I know that despite your namesake you've never watched "Wag The Dog?"
 
2013-06-29 01:59:07 AM

seventypercent: EvilRacistNaziFascist: I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.

Do you really equate "law enforcement" with "killing living things?"

That's a wee bit disturbing.


I don't, but I'll support the conclusion. Not wanting to kill a helpless animal, I understand and sympathize with. Not be able to do it, even when good conscience requires it?

Yeah...you need to find a different line of work. Equanimity with the use of violence is sort of the job description.
 
2013-06-29 01:59:39 AM

sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found ...


So...you love dogs, as long as they are useful tools?  I don't get it.  I see where a dog can be a great hunting companion, but are you saying you won't hesitate to kill them if they don't work out absolutely as envisioned?  Do you feel tougher for having scared the goth teen?  Maybe I missed the joke here.
 
2013-06-29 02:00:13 AM
I've got no problem with this.
 
2013-06-29 02:02:43 AM
Did I miss the "If the dear had been BLACK or suspected of buying a 12 pack of beer" jokes yet?
 
2013-06-29 02:02:49 AM

MFAWG: whatshisname: I guess it was a white tailed deer then?

We know it wasn't a blacktail!


I can assure you blacktail deer are just as stupid when it comes to cars as whitetails.
 
2013-06-29 02:05:23 AM

Bumblefark: I don't, but I'll support the conclusion. Not wanting to kill a helpless animal, I understand and sympathize with. Not be able to do it, even when good conscience requires it?

Yeah...you need to find a different line of work. Equanimity with the use of violence is sort of the job description.


Okay. This is why I was suggesting that this officer might be better suited as a vet.
 
2013-06-29 02:07:40 AM
Torn on this one. On the one hand as an ex-vet I will tell you the ability to kill isn't as common as movies would lead you to believe. It has an emotional toll you wouldn't believe and it's a smarter type who realizes that before taking the life.

On the other hand if you carry a gun and your job might require you to take one human life to save others then the fact that you can't bring yourself to humanely end the life of an animal is concerning.
 
2013-06-29 02:09:15 AM

sethen320: That being said, a defenseless animal is different from a hostile, armed human.  Self-preservation takes over at that point.


Not always. Not even most of the time. Many just freeze up. I've seen fellow cops and soldiers just sit there and do nothing when the bullets were flying in their direction. Training is the only thing that can overcome that. Conditioning yourself to just react, and react properly. Something I've heard many times from some very experienced and knowledgeable instructors in the military/LE/firearms world "When your life is threatened, you will not rise to the occasion. You will fall back on your training."

What does that have to do with shooting an injured deer? Not much. I'm just responding to the "self-preservation takes over" idea. Unfortunately with many people, no it doesn't. And you never really know if you will until you face it. I've seen some of the toughest talking hard-asses downright refuse to get out of the truck and return fire when their buddies were getting shot at. And I've seen the quietest WoW playing introverts act as calm and cool as can be, doing their jobs with expert precision. You just never really know until it happens.
 
2013-06-29 02:12:00 AM

seventypercent: Putting down a mortally wounded animal is the humane thing to do, but often it is a very difficult thing to do.


I feel bad for this guy. Maybe he could become a veterinarian? That's an extremely honorable (and if you're the right kind of person, rewarding) line of work, and it seems like he'd be well-suited for it.


Yeah, but then he'd have to euthanize stuff all the time. Granted, having put down a lot of animals as a vet and shot a few as a hunter... it's a hell of a lot more peaceful and less traumatic with drugs in the office. But the emotional bit, while it gets easier at times, never really stops being a burden. I imagine this guy would have trouble with that too, even more so since the sobbing owners would be right there as well.

Related to another story up-thread: my stepfather came upon an old lady who'd hit a deer and a cop who'd stopped to check it out on the way home one night. Ended up going home (about 5 minutes drive) and coming back with his own gun to shoot it to spare the cop the huge amount of paperwork that apparently goes along with firing their weapon for any reason. Also... free venison.
 
2013-06-29 02:14:06 AM
I witnessed a similar event first hand when I was a teen. NY State Trooper - transferred six hours to the sticks from somewhere down by NYC. He'd been an officer for almost two decades - scraped pieces parts off the road; held people while they died, been shot at, used his weapon in the line of duty, been to house fires where people died, (it's been over 30 years for me and all I have to do is think of the smell and I'm right there).

And yet, when a semi's brakes failed and ran into an Amish buggy - shoving it up and over the horse - the animal laying in the street screaming, limbs broken, skin torn.... He handed his weapon to my father's friend to put the animal down; he couldn't do it.

/Friend was an old farmer in his 60's. He did the job and handed the weapon back. Then we helped clear the animal from the traces to clear the road. Amish father and his daughter were shaken up, but unharmed btw. Maybe it was different times, but nobody thought less of the man; it certainly wasn't 'news'.
 
2013-06-29 02:16:19 AM

sethen320: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found ...

So...you love dogs, as long as they are useful tools?  I don't get it.  I see where a dog can be a great hunting companion, but are you saying you won't hesitate to kill them if they don't work out absolutely as envisioned?  Do you feel tougher for having scared the goth teen?  Maybe I missed the joke here.


This is when you used dogs as tools to make a living.

Like when you used Chinese to make a railroad, only with dogs.

Maybe you missed the part where this was my great grandfather. They weren't hunting companions, they were the hunters. Tools. Like oxen, performing a job, only without the cart and they are dogs chasing game.

This is also in Indiana, only a long time ago so obliquely relevant?

Way to miss the point, deliberate point misser.
 
2013-06-29 02:17:21 AM

sethen320: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we ...


@Sethen320

 It wasn't a joke. And yeah, you missed it.

/uncles and grandfather ran hunting dogs too (no stories like these thankfully)
//tough life over all, but the dogs love it.
 
2013-06-29 02:19:40 AM
"Sad", Subby? 'Scary', 'Asinine' or 'Idiot' maybe, but there's nothing sad about a cop just handing his loaded firearm to a random civilian on the sidewalk and telling him to fire away.

I have no problem with the officer being emotional, or not even being able to carry out the deed and making the deer wait until animal control gets there to do the deed, I have a problem with an officer handing his loaded firearm to people he doesn't know.

I also wonder how that works in that particular city's boundaries. A lot of places would consider that illegally discharging a weapon inside city limits. It would really suck if the next chapter in this saga was a story about the civilian getting charged with a crime here.

I understand the situation here, but as someone said upthread, there isn't a cop shop in the country that wouldn't consider this a violation of procedure. I would guess that a majority would fire you instantly, too.
 
2013-06-29 02:22:43 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


No one is holding a gun to your head to be here.
 
2013-06-29 02:23:32 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


That's cool and all, but I fail to see how it excuses an officer handing his weapon to a civilian that he knows nothing about and telling said civilian to open fire.

Bonus points: He wasn't really "enforcing the law". It's not like the deer was guilty of felony bleeding.
 
2013-06-29 02:27:24 AM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: EvilAvatar: So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on

I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


Despite what farkers like to think, the duty of being a cop is a lot more than gunning down people and shooting at things; it is probably at the very bottom. I would think unless you live in the most crime-ridden places the vast majority of cops at your area have never shot at anyone or even fire a shot on duty before. Besides, it was a wounded animal, not a robber aiming his gun.
 
2013-06-29 02:32:22 AM

sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found ...


Your patriarchy sounds like a bunch of pricks
 
2013-06-29 02:37:00 AM

Todd300: I'm assuming I'd be correct in saying the deer wasn't black?


Brown.  Shouldn't that be close enough?
 
2013-06-29 02:37:49 AM
Still kind of stupid of the officer's part to hand his gun over to some stranger, but the stranger probably could of shot the deer better than the crying cop. A few years back this woman let her dog run in this back lot next to my grandmothers, and here damn dog chased a deer into a wired fence. The deer got caught and broke its neck. It was still alive, and my mom proceeded to biatch out the woman, because she let her dog unleashed which is against the law. She then called the DNR up to check on the deer that is stuck, determined it had to be shot, but they couldn't do it. Something about only cops can shoot in the city limits. So the deer had to wait for almost two hours in misery for a cop to show up with his shotgun and shoot her. The cop missed, and had to shoot twice. Point blank range. Then the deer's corpse with in our yard for another 5 hours while the neighbors begged for the body. Usually I am all for that, but that deer was in suffering for so long, we said no. We later cut down the wire fence that was in between the property line of my gram's and other person's, even if it wasn't our fence. They never came to look at their land in like 10 years.
 
2013-06-29 02:40:14 AM
Okay, it's a deer, not a human. Yeah it's sad, but, you're a cop. Call farking animal control if you can't do it.
 
2013-06-29 02:40:16 AM

taurusowner: sethen320: That being said, a defenseless animal is different from a hostile, armed human.  Self-preservation takes over at that point.

Not always. Not even most of the time. Many just freeze up. I've seen fellow cops and soldiers just sit there and do nothing when the bullets were flying in their direction. Training is the only thing that can overcome that. Conditioning yourself to just react, and react properly. Something I've heard many times from some very experienced and knowledgeable instructors in the military/LE/firearms world "When your life is threatened, you will not rise to the occasion. You will fall back on your training."

What does that have to do with shooting an injured deer? Not much. I'm just responding to the "self-preservation takes over" idea. Unfortunately with many people, no it doesn't. And you never really know if you will until you face it. I've seen some of the toughest talking hard-asses downright refuse to get out of the truck and return fire when their buddies were getting shot at. And I've seen the quietest WoW playing introverts act as calm and cool as can be, doing their jobs with expert precision. You just never really know until it happens.


I know where you're going. I agree, no matter the circumstances it is never easy. I have been in a situation where I almost had to shoot someone and I DID NOT WANT TO. Now that I'm wiser I would atill have priblems with it, but I would survive.

All of the ITGs who say they're going to just shoot anyone who walks into their house have no idea as to what they are saying until it happens. Most people will probably forget they even have a gun.
 
2013-06-29 02:44:16 AM
drawception.com


emo cop. y u so emo?
 
2013-06-29 02:45:12 AM

doglover: scottydoesntknow: You're trusting him with a tool that can easily kill, and he hands it to a random person

It's almost like every citizen of America has the right to bear arms, or something.

I don't see any problems with an officer giving his service weapon to a stranger per se. There's potential problems if it's stolen and used in another crime etc, but life ain't the movies and a cop's gun is really just another gun. Often they're not even very good guns.

So I while I see what you're getting at, I respectfully disagree.


I'm with you. I'm also a pretty good judge of character, and I'd trust myself not to hand the gun to someone who'd misuse it. In this case, I'm willing to extend that trust to this particular cop. They shouldn't give him more than a reprimand, he's clearly a decent human being.
 
2013-06-29 02:45:24 AM
I stomped a fledgling starling to death the other day. Malformed, and it had to be done. Still sucked watiching it squirm with a smooshed face after the first stomp.

I could kill, and have, my own meat.

Killing should never be too happy or exciting an experience. Enjoying the hunt is not the same as lovong the result.

Props to this cop for compassion; I thought that was what farkers wanted from their law enorcement...
 
2013-06-29 02:45:51 AM

seventypercent: Putting down a mortally wounded animal is the humane thing to do, but often it is a very difficult thing to do.

I'll give this guy all due credit for having an abundance of human empathy. This is a quality that's not exactly common in many police forces around the US. However, I'm not sure that handing a loaded service revolver to a nearby bystander is the best way to resolve a situation like this.

I feel bad for this guy. Maybe he could become a veterinarian? That's an extremely honorable (and if you're the right kind of person, rewarding) line of work, and it seems like he'd be well-suited for it.


You're not sure? It's like hot potato, with guns.
 
2013-06-29 02:46:12 AM

Medic Zero: doglover: scottydoesntknow: You're trusting him with a tool that can easily kill, and he hands it to a random person

It's almost like every citizen of America has the right to bear arms, or something.

I don't see any problems with an officer giving his service weapon to a stranger per se. There's potential problems if it's stolen and used in another crime etc, but life ain't the movies and a cop's gun is really just another gun. Often they're not even very good guns.

So I while I see what you're getting at, I respectfully disagree.

I'm with you. I'm also a pretty good judge of character, and I'd trust myself not to hand the gun to someone who'd misuse it. In this case, I'm willing to extend that trust to this particular cop. They shouldn't give him more than a reprimand, he's clearly a decent human being.


I'm glad you're not a cop.
 
2013-06-29 02:46:25 AM

novalord2: wahhhhhhhhhh i'm not going to shoot the deer because I'm apparently a sadist who wants the deer to suffer wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

what an irrational person

//euthanasia is a routine part of hunting (for meat, not sport). Use a second shot to put an animal out of its misery, or you are a dick.


Damn, and here I've just been wounding them to slow them down and then chewing my way through through their chest.  Are you saying I've been doing it wrong all these years?
 
2013-06-29 02:46:53 AM
A police officer has a conscience and you idiots have a problem with it?

Do the world a favor and...

 i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-29 02:47:18 AM
 As someone who helped call in a soon-to-be-euthanized-with-a-bullet deer....

 One night, there was a blacktail hit on a local road (3 lanes) near where I lived. I stopped and pulled over to the shoulder since the deer was blocking the road and wanted to see if I could help. Several other people pulled over too. A couple of them looked slightly horrified, like they wanted to help, but didn't know how. (There was no helping this deer, but we lived in a yuppie area and most folks, although very kind-hearted people, had little to no clue about wildlife.)

 The deer was struggling to sit up, but didn't seem to have control of it's back legs. While we watched, a bunch of assholes in their lifted black pickup with big tires came barreling down the road. Swerving a bit and gunning the engine, they succeeded in running over the deer with both sets of tires, leaving it even more mortally wounded than before, but still alive.

 Shortly after this a police officer pulled up. He surveyed the stricken deer, which could now only lay on the ground panting helplessly. He slowly began to unholster his sidearm while carefully explaining to the crowd, "I'm going to have to put the deer down."

 You could tell he expected an argument, but was hoping he wouldn't get one. Doing what I could to support him, and give the poor deer at least one break that evening, I nodded seriously and said "Yep." then turned and walked back to my car and headed out. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the rest of the crowd start to break up.

/felt bad for the deer
//still pissed at the assholes in the pickup.
 
2013-06-29 02:48:04 AM

mialynneb: wallywam1: Peter von Nostrand: Seriously though, giving up his gun to some random stranger should get him fired.

Dude, it's Indi-farking-ana. That's like the Canada of the Midwest. They probably apologized for giving the gun back without breaking it down and cleaning it first.

LOL no. You don't know Indiana.  Hoosier Hospitality (TM) is a thing of the past. Maybe even a myth to begin with.


What Hoosier hospitality might look like...

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-29 02:49:48 AM

ThatDarkFellow: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found ...

Your patriarchy sounds like a bunch of pricks


That's what yo matriarch said.

A *bunch* of 'em

Yo matriarch so grand, her buttresses have buttresses.

/couldn't resist
 
2013-06-29 02:50:01 AM

scottydoesntknow: Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.

[media.tumblr.com image 450x253]

/Feels appropriate


Shut up, n00b. The poster was in fact correct.
 
2013-06-29 03:07:24 AM

sporkme: sethen320: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found ...

So...you love dogs, as long as they are useful tools?  I don't get it.  I see where a dog can be a great hunting companion, but are you saying you won't hesitate to kill them if they don't work out absolutely as envisioned?  Do you feel tougher for having scared the goth teen?  Maybe I missed the joke here.

This is when you used dogs as tools to make a living.

Like when you used Chinese to make a railroad, only with dogs.

Maybe you missed the part where this was my great grandfather. They weren't hunting companions, they were the hunters. Tools. Like oxen, performing a job, only without the cart and they are dogs chasing game.

This is also in Indiana, only a long time ago so obliquely relevant?

Way to miss the point, deliberate point misser.


I thought the "I don't get it" and "maybe I missed the joke here" covered it bug obviously I wasn't blunt enough...

I DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU WERE GOING. I MADE SOME INFERENCES BUT IT APPEARS THEY WERE INCORRECT.

I assure you that my missing the point wasn't intentional. I appreciate the stab at me though. Makes you look all tough-like.
 
2013-06-29 03:10:05 AM
I am assuming this was in a small town, since there are deer running around 15 blocks from the center of town. So I think that it is a big assumption on everyone's part that the cop did not actually know the "random stranger".
 
2013-06-29 03:10:49 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


Bears repeating.
/internet is pissy otherwise I'd hit up GIS
 
2013-06-29 03:14:17 AM

Wrencher: I am assuming this was in a small town, since there are deer running around 15 blocks from the center of town. So I think that it is a big assumption on everyone's part that the cop did not actually know the "random stranger".


Aye. And f the person who reported the guy. If you want robots to enforce all laws, without exception- you are wrong. And an idiot. Or a  stockholder in google police ® © .
Which is the same thing, but both
 
2013-06-29 03:16:14 AM
Me thinks he's not much of a hunter.
 
2013-06-29 03:23:26 AM

seventypercent: EvilRacistNaziFascist: I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.

Do you really equate "law enforcement" with "killing living things?"


Not in the slightest. I equate law enforcement with the willingness to consider oneself ready to take human life if absolutely necessary, but not otherwise.
 
2013-06-29 03:26:46 AM

mike_the_engineer: A police officer has a conscience and you idiots have a problem with it?

Do the world a favor and...

 [i.imgur.com image 176x119]


He had a conscience, alright. The same conscience that people have when they shove grandma in a nursing home and let her live for 20 years with a feeding tube after her brain has long since resembled a sponge and all she does is drool while staring at the ceiling.
 
2013-06-29 03:29:45 AM
I had to finish killing a baby rabbit on a camping trip once.

My Labrador mutt had come bounding out of the woods with the mortally wounded furball in his mouth, and dropped it at my feet awaiting praise.

I had to smash its skull in with a tree branch.

It wasn't the highlight of my camping trip.  :(
 
2013-06-29 03:32:19 AM

Stoker: Did I miss the "If the dear had been BLACK or suspected of buying a 12 pack of beer" jokes yet?


no... but I did hear he was carrying Skittles.
 
2013-06-29 03:32:28 AM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: EvilAvatar: So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on

I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


There is a bit of a difference in putting down a hurt animal and defending yourself with lethal force against a human attacker. I think the guy should get training and be disciplined, but I don't think the job is at issue. Frankly, I am kind of glad the guy thought about how it would traumatize him. Maybe that will result in him not using lethal force when needed or maybe it is moot. Hard to say.
 
2013-06-29 03:36:00 AM

cuzsis: As someone who helped call in a soon-to-be-euthanized-with-a-bullet deer....

 One night, there was a blacktail hit on a local road (3 lanes) near where I lived. I stopped and pulled over to the shoulder since the deer was blocking the road and wanted to see if I could help. Several other people pulled over too. A couple of them looked slightly horrified, like they wanted to help, but didn't know how. (There was no helping this deer, but we lived in a yuppie area and most folks, although very kind-hearted people, had little to no clue about wildlife.)

 The deer was struggling to sit up, but didn't seem to have control of it's back legs. While we watched, a bunch of assholes in their lifted black pickup with big tires came barreling down the road. Swerving a bit and gunning the engine, they succeeded in running over the deer with both sets of tires, leaving it even more mortally wounded than before, but still alive.

 Shortly after this a police officer pulled up. He surveyed the stricken deer, which could now only lay on the ground panting helplessly. He slowly began to unholster his sidearm while carefully explaining to the crowd, "I'm going to have to put the deer down."

 You could tell he expected an argument, but was hoping he wouldn't get one. Doing what I could to support him, and give the poor deer at least one break that evening, I nodded seriously and said "Yep." then turned and walked back to my car and headed out. Out of the corner of my eye I saw the rest of the crowd start to break up.

/felt bad for the deer
//still pissed at the assholes in the pickup.


It's a shame the officer didn't yell "they're coming right at us!" about the assholes in the pickup...
oh and here... you left this off: ///csb
 
2013-06-29 03:38:47 AM
FTA: "She said he had tears in his eyes, and he handed his gun to a stranger - his loaded gun."

uhhh... duh. It wouldn't do much good unloaded.
 
2013-06-29 03:39:10 AM

seventypercent: Bumblefark: I don't, but I'll support the conclusion. Not wanting to kill a helpless animal, I understand and sympathize with. Not be able to do it, even when good conscience requires it?

Yeah...you need to find a different line of work. Equanimity with the use of violence is sort of the job description.

Okay. This is why I was suggesting that this officer might be better suited as a vet.


Agreed. Personally, I think it's a shame that policing in the US requires that everyone start out as line officers. This guy is probably what you want in a supervisor/administrator -- someone with some real humanity to them.

But, putting a gentle soul like that out in the field isn't any kindness to them. Those are the ones that end up damaged or dead, simply because they aren't well-suited to the work environment. If I were his superior, my biggest concern would be that the guy might be a danger to himself, if he's just unable to do violence when the situation calls for it.
 
2013-06-29 03:48:38 AM

HindiDiscoMonster: FTA: "She said he had tears in his eyes, and he handed his gun to a stranger - his loaded gun."

uhhh... duh. It wouldn't do much good unloaded.


Oh, it might take a while, but you can club the ever-loving life out of someone - I mean something ... not "thing", a mortally-wounded animal for instance, or someone - something I mean - with one of those.
 
2013-06-29 03:53:05 AM

sethen320: sporkme: sethen320: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the animal had died by the time we found ...

So...you love dogs, as long as they are useful tools?  I don't get it.  I see where a dog can be a great hunting companion, but are you saying you won't hesitate to kill them if they don't work out absolutely as envisioned?  Do you feel tougher for having scared the goth teen?  Maybe I missed the joke here.

This is when you used dogs as tools to make a living.

Like when you used Chinese to make a railroad, only with dogs.

Maybe you missed the part where this was my great grandfather. They weren't hunting companions, they were the hunters. Tools. Like oxen, performing a job, only without the cart and they are dogs chasing game.

This is also in Indiana, only a long time ago so obliquely relevant?

Way to miss the point, deliberate point misser.

I thought the "I don't get it" and "maybe I missed the joke here" covered it bug obviously I wasn't blunt enough...

I DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU WERE GOING. I MADE SOME INFERENCES BUT IT APPEARS THEY WERE INCORRECT.

I assure you that my missing the point wasn't intentional. I appreciate the stab at me though. Makes you look all tough-like.


The goth kid learned that when you cause suffering, even by accident, you should do what you can to stop the suffering, regardless of the personal cost.

My dog is pretty useless, and I haven't shot him... yet.

The "tough" thing I don't really follow. Sorrowful compassionate killing of an injured animal is not something a hardass does; it is something a humane person does.

The goth kid got to learn that from experience, seeing a compassionate person attempt a humane act. The deer was already dead when we found her.


There was the rabbit whose head I stomped

The opossum I decapitated with a maul

The rabid squirrel whose head I smashed with a hammer

The irrevocably damaged aggressive dog I shot to spare him animal control and a frightened existance before destroyal after he bit a little kid

And I would have slit the throat of that deer in a second if it was necessarry, not to be 'tough,'

To be humane.
 
2013-06-29 04:00:47 AM
The cop did the right thing.
These entries only show how well the MSM has made America nutless.
 
2013-06-29 04:00:47 AM

sporkme: To be humane


Why would you stomp on a rabbits head and claim to be humane ? You checked that bag on a wrong way flight when you spewed that forth  .
 
2013-06-29 04:00:53 AM
legion_of_doo [TotalFark]

Pretend it's a black dude.

Damn....
I almost feel guilty for laughing... Almost.
 
2013-06-29 04:04:50 AM
seventypercent [TotalFark]
2013-06-29 01:49:22 AM


EvilRacistNaziFascist: I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.

Do you really equate "law enforcement" with "killing living things?"

That's a wee bit disturbing.

www.upl.co
These officers do, why is it wrong to say the same thing they did?
 
2013-06-29 04:05:54 AM

sporkme: sethen320: sporkme: sethen320: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the ...


Yeah, and your dad beat the shiat out of your mom so she didn't have to compete in the business world. It was humane.

Christ you sound like a sociopath.
 
2013-06-29 04:14:38 AM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: EvilAvatar: So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on

I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


I disagree. More cops need to be revolted by killing/beating the crap out of people. Maybe they'd find other, better ways of dealing with situations.
 
2013-06-29 04:20:25 AM
I saw a puppy that had been hit on a country road one time.  His intestines were hanging out of his rectum.  All I had was a tire tool, but when I left, the puppy was no longer suffering.  Still haunts me to this day even though it had to be done.

RIP little beagle hound.
 
2013-06-29 04:22:14 AM

Bigdogdaddy: I saw a puppy that had been hit on a country road one time.  His intestines were hanging out of his rectum.  All I had was a tire tool, but when I left, the puppy was no longer suffering.  Still haunts me to this day even though it had to be done.

RIP little beagle hound.


justice is sometime swift
 
2013-06-29 04:22:47 AM

Bigdogdaddy: I saw a puppy that had been hit on a country road one time.  His intestines were hanging out of his rectum.  All I had was a tire tool, but when I left, the puppy was no longer suffering.  Still haunts me to this day even though it had to be done.

RIP little beagle hound.


Rectum? You hardly knew him.
 
2013-06-29 04:36:06 AM
The officer expressed poor judgment in multiple ways.  Not being able to kill a suffering animal is not to be unexpected as the poor dumb thing didn't do anything wrong  and was only being an animal.  However, after reaching that decision that he couldn't shoot, he made awful choices.  The first is giving his duty weapon to a bystander to kill the deer.  On top of the safety issue, his duty weapon has now been fired so it is an officer involved shooting that will require substantial paperwork and evaluation.  It is worse in the fact that a nearby civilian had a weapon available and was ready to do what was necessary.  Instead of relying on that third party to act under his supervision, which would have saved some time and paperwork, he engaged in the one of the worst possible choices. If he didn't clear the scene before the shoot that is another issue as well although it is unclear how significant this was.  It is the poor judgment in letting his weapon be used instead of other options that raises the most concerns about the incident rather than his inability to end the suffering of a hurt animal.  I don't think it would lead to a termination unless there are other problems in his background, but it does raise a red flag.
 
2013-06-29 04:36:53 AM

sporkme: To be humane.


www.rockpapershotgun.com
 
2013-06-29 04:43:46 AM

taurusowner: I don't know if he should be fired (though certainly disciplined heavily), but he should probably quit. Giving his firearm to a random person shows a severe lack of judgement and an inability to keep cool on the job. I work as a cop in Michigan and I've had to do this to a deer before. Depending on the area, we generally try to get animal control or the DNR to do it, but sometimes in the middle of the night you're the only one around who can. It's not fun but it needs to be done. Leaving a deer there on the side of the road wheezing in pain with blood running from its mouth is just sick. At the end of the day, nothing is going to save it. It's not a choice between shooting the dear and nursing it back to health in some sappy Disney-esque manner. It's a choice between a quick death and hours of drawn out pain. This officer failed to do his job. He should be reprimanded. He gave up his firearm to a passerby. That should certainly result in some punitive action.


I had to call for someone to euthanize a deer last year on the Memorial Day weekend. Usually the fish and game dept would so it, but they were closed for the long weekend. So they sent a cop, who I met with and led to the deer. We met at the site, found the deer, confirmed that it had broken both front legs, and he pulled his handgun, radioed in, warned me and shot it. His words: "That sucks."

Considering how negative police related stories tend to be, it probably doesn't register with people that most police never shoot anything other than paper over the course of a career.
 
2013-06-29 04:48:31 AM
dopekitty74
More cops need to be revolted by killing/beating the crap out of people. Maybe they'd find other, better ways of dealing with situations.

We have exactly one (1) example of that type of cop. . .

. . . They fired her ass
 
2013-06-29 04:54:23 AM
I'm not quite sure whats more disturbing here, the pants wetting busy-bodies who some how think that the moment a gun is placed in a mans hand they become deranged mass murderers, therefore the cop committed a heinous and job ending mistake.

Or the future wife beaters with their macho chest thumping stories of horrific torturing of animals for their amusement.

I guess I'll go with the future wife beaters, as I can forgive the pants wetters, hopefully after you've beaten your wife once to many times she'll use those god given 2nd amendment rights to put a bullet between your eyes.

//pro 2nd amendment
///pro compassionate cop
////anti wife beater..... killing animals for amusement is the 1st sign someone is a wife beater.
////not talking about hunters.. don't get your panties all wadded
 
2013-06-29 05:08:44 AM

Smirky the Wonder Chimp: novalord2: wahhhhhhhhhh i'm not going to shoot the deer because I'm apparently a sadist who wants the deer to suffer wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

what an irrational person

//euthanasia is a routine part of hunting (for meat, not sport). Use a second shot to put an animal out of its misery, or you are a dick.

Damn, and here I've just been wounding them to slow them down and then chewing my way through through their chest.  Are you saying I've been doing it wrong all these years?


I've seen people who don't bother to really kill the animal. Sport hunters.
 
2013-06-29 05:16:42 AM

Bumblefark: seventypercent: Bumblefark: I don't, but I'll support the conclusion. Not wanting to kill a helpless animal, I understand and sympathize with. Not be able to do it, even when good conscience requires it?

Yeah...you need to find a different line of work. Equanimity with the use of violence is sort of the job description.

Okay. This is why I was suggesting that this officer might be better suited as a vet.

Agreed. Personally, I think it's a shame that policing in the US requires that everyone start out as line officers. This guy is probably what you want in a supervisor/administrator -- someone with some real humanity to them.

But, putting a gentle soul like that out in the field isn't any kindness to them. Those are the ones that end up damaged or dead, simply because they aren't well-suited to the work environment. If I were his superior, my biggest concern would be that the guy might be a danger to himself, if he's just unable to do violence when the situation calls for it.


This.

The officer in TFA has absolutely no business carrying a gun. He needs to quit or be fired, because he is in the wrong line of work and his weakness can get someone hurt or killed. And it is weakness, not compassion. Putting the animal out of its misery was the right thing to do. It would have been compassionate and humane, but he failed to do it because of his own lack of willpower. And that's about as simple as these things get. If he can't kill a dying deer when it's easy to agree that it needs to be done, what would he do if he had to make a split-second judgement call regarding another human being? Most likely he'd freeze up and watch the bad guy kill someone, possibly the cop himself.

Cops carry guns to kill people. That's what they're for. You never want to be put in a position where you need to use it, but that's why you carry it. If you aren't prepared to kill someone and you're ever put in a position where someone needs to be killed, then you've needlessly endangered yourself, your fellow officers, and the citizens you're sworn to protect.

Also, somewhat ironically, being prepared to kill someone reduces the likelihood that you'll have to do it. A frightened, wavering voice quietly requesting that you drop the gun and put your hands in the air is much less effective than a calm, authoritative command from someone who will shoot you if you don't comply.

tl;dr - This guy is probably a decent human being otherwise, but putting on that uniform makes him about as reckless as a drunk driver. He needs to realize this and stop doing it.
 
2013-06-29 05:36:29 AM

DrExplosion: Bumblefark: seventypercent: Bumblefark: I don't, but I'll support the conclusion. Not wanting to kill a helpless animal, I understand and sympathize with. Not be able to do it, even when good conscience requires it?

Yeah...you need to find a different line of work. Equanimity with the use of violence is sort of the job description.

Okay. This is why I was suggesting that this officer might be better suited as a vet.

Agreed. Personally, I think it's a shame that policing in the US requires that everyone start out as line officers. This guy is probably what you want in a supervisor/administrator -- someone with some real humanity to them.

But, putting a gentle soul like that out in the field isn't any kindness to them. Those are the ones that end up damaged or dead, simply because they aren't well-suited to the work environment. If I were his superior, my biggest concern would be that the guy might be a danger to himself, if he's just unable to do violence when the situation calls for it.

This.

The officer in TFA has absolutely no business carrying a gun. He needs to quit or be fired, because he is in the wrong line of work and his weakness can get someone hurt or killed. And it is weakness, not compassion. Putting the animal out of its misery was the right thing to do. It would have been compassionate and humane, but he failed to do it because of his own lack of willpower. And that's about as simple as these things get. If he can't kill a dying deer when it's easy to agree that it needs to be done, what would he do if he had to make a split-second judgement call regarding another human being? Most likely he'd freeze up and watch the bad guy kill someone, possibly the cop himself.

Cops carry guns to kill people. That's what they're for. You never want to be put in a position where you need to use it, but that's why you carry it. If you aren't prepared to kill someone and you're ever put in a position where someone needs to be killed, then you've needlessly enda ...


I don't know.  I know a LOT of people who I believe think way more of the value of life of an animal than they do their fellow human.
 
2013-06-29 06:19:05 AM
You would be surprised at the squeamishness of some law enforcement. They aren't the bloodthirsty, napoleon complex ridden egotists fark always makes them out to be. To be fair, there are some of those. Many people who go into law enforcement actually want to serve their citizens. Many, especially in departments that require a Bachelor's degree want to work to improve society. From my experience with rookie cops it becomes evident that they have very little real experience with some real life issues. Outside of what they have seen in sociology classes, they normally don't have any experience until they start their training rides, after an academic police academy.

  I've dealt with plenty of crime scenes and dead bodies in my time, because as part of our training, we immediately start running calls. However, for most law enforcement, they finish all their training before actually going out on the street and being immersed in the real world. More than once I've had an expected death (hospice patient) that police showed up to unexpectedly. Not because they had any legal obligation to investigate, but because they wanted the rookies to see a dead body. It's not a natural thing and most people are not used to it. But yes, people who were sworn officers,months from being on their own, had never actually dealt with death yet.

  Training in a shoot/no shoot simulation, the muscle memory that it instills, helps cops, as well as the instinct for self-preservation, in a shootout.  The moral dilemma of killing a wounded animal, in a situation that likely has never come up in their training before,  is not necessarily a correlation as to how they would handle a true shootout. Living in the country, people have a different view of nature than some people who do not have the experience with "nature's" life and death cycle. In that state of awe, someone who spoke with authority and understood that the animal needed to be put out of its misery, was likely a logical option for the officer. While I don't agree with giving up the officer's weapon, I do understand how it happened, especially in an environment the officer didn't expect and trusted the citizen's authority.

/ssb (sad story) Had a man who was attacked by his dog. 120 lb Italian mastiff. Pull up to the house, there is a fence around the entire house which the dog is running around in and barking at the front door. The owner's wife is on the phone with our dispatch and advised her husband was unconscious and bleeding inside. Not having any further info we knew we had to get into the residence quickly and animal control takes up to an hour. Talked to the police officer on the call and explained we didn't have a choice, and until the wife actually yelled he needed our help did he decide to draw and shot the mastiff. Dog ran around the house and we hauled ass in. Guy was unconscious inside, bite wounds to his head, hypotensive. By this point police had found the dog, it had made it 60 feet before collapsing. Neighborhood is going crazy yelling at the poor cop saying it didn't have to happen, he shouldn't have shot the dog, etc. We haul out the owner, bleeding from his head, obtunded, and the entire neighborhood shuts up. Guy actually had lost a lot of blood and head an internal cranial hemorrhage. Ended up staying in the ICU for a week but recovered.

/end ssb

Moral of that story is they do have to make judgement calls very quickly that there is no training that would get them ready for it, just hunting, fishing, and other life experiences. I guess I'm in the future wife beater column due to my experiences.


Wasn't the site upset with a retired cop/animal control officer putting down 5 disease ridden feral cats that the shelters couldn't take the other day? But now this is unacceptable for a police officer?
 
2013-06-29 06:33:42 AM
RPD Maj. Kevin Wampler this week said if the allegations are determined to be true, the officer would face disciplinary action for violating department policy. He said the alleged act is not a criminal violation.

I love the fact that there is a cop with a conscience.

It is scary that he is facing disciplinary reaction for this when cops make the headlines for far worse things that breach the public trust.

/Hunting and being a cop are two different things, to those who are calling him a pussy, you don't get that not all grown men like to kill animals, and want zero tolerance sociopaths in all police depts.
 
2013-06-29 06:43:07 AM

MurphyMurphy: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

I'm fairly certain that simply being a human being is against procedure in every farking police department in the country.


And yet, this simple act of trust between a man who was too sad to do what needed done and one who could ended without the universe imploding.  Humanity occurs one act, one kind word, one outstretched hand and one display of decency at at time.  And I hope we start remembering that.
 
2013-06-29 06:56:17 AM

OnlyM3: dopekitty74
More cops need to be revolted by killing/beating the crap out of people. Maybe they'd find other, better ways of dealing with situations.
We have exactly one (1) example of that type of cop. . .

. . . They fired her ass


I read about this the first time it was here on Fark. ...And cops wonder why we don't trust any of them. This seems to be the hiring/termination procedure:

1. Hire person
2. If person commits crime against citizen go to 4
3. If person defends citizen against crime from other officers go to 6
4. Ignore, or slap on the wrist
5. Goto 2
6 Terminate person with prejudice while fabricating additional "evidence" for termination
 
2013-06-29 06:58:00 AM

Bigdogdaddy: I don't know.  I know a LOT of people who I believe think way more of the value of life of an animal than they do their fellow human

Fair enough, I suppose. However, I still can't see "he was a sociopath to other humans, but he loved animals" as an especially positive characteristic for a police officer.

Enemabag Jones: RPD Maj. Kevin Wampler this week said if the allegations are determined to be true, the officer would face disciplinary action for violating department policy. He said the alleged act is not a criminal violation.

I love the fact that there is a cop with a conscience.

It is scary that he is facing disciplinary reaction for this when cops make the headlines for far worse things that breach the public trust.

/Hunting and being a cop are two different things, to those who are calling him a pussy, you don't get that not all grown men like to kill animals, and want zero tolerance sociopaths in all police depts.


He was a pussy not because he refused to kill an animal, but because he lacked the will to do what he thought was the right thing. You shouldn't be happy that someone like him is a cop.

If he had refused and argued that the deer didn't need to be killed, that would be his conscience. If he had carried the deer to the nearest vet, that would be a very strong conscience indeed. Instead, he agreed that the deer needed to be shot, but passed his responsibility to a bystander because he lacked the mental fortitude to do the right thing. It's not that he wouldn't do it, it's that he couldn't do it even though he thought it needed to be done. Such a person should not be police officer.
 
2013-06-29 06:59:41 AM
Sounds like you guys accidentally got yourselves a Canadian. Send him up, we'll trade you a quebec cop.
 
2013-06-29 07:09:00 AM
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Is it just me or is the deer in this photo appear to be smiling? I wouldn't like killing a suffering deer either. I don't carry a gun so the point is moot for me. I did stop on the highway on the way to work because there was a deer on the road with what appeared to be a broken back. I tried to chase it off the highway so it wasn't hit a second time, and called the police, but I was late for work so I couldn't stick around to make sure it didn't drag itself back onto the highway. Was a really unpleasant thing to behold as it was clearly scared to death. Then again, I was once a vegan and find animal suffering upsetting.

P.S - Stopped being a vegan 2 years ago, too costly to both be THAT moral and look after my girlfriend's kids cause I ate a lot of processed foods which are really expensive in the vegan sections of stores.
 
2013-06-29 07:11:47 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


==============

I agree, I seldom come to this site any longer, only when I am bored with absolutely nothing else to do.  No great loss for me or Drew.

/not going to pay to read the same people make the same stupid arguments over and over and over
//Fark jumped the shark a long time ago, that is why Drew needs the sponsored links now, not enough people crazy enough to pay for this crap
 
2013-06-29 07:13:12 AM

ThatDarkFellow: sporkme: sethen320: sporkme: sethen320: sporkme: My great-grandfather ran hunting dogs, as a vocation. My dad has told a couple of enlightening tales of hunting with Eber, which I will relate.

A very good hunting dog was a prolific sire, spawning several excellent hunters. Eber became very fond of the dog, and allowed him in the house and whatnot, a luxury not afforded to normal working dogs. The dog was out for a treat, hunting with his grandsons, when he leaped a bit low over a barbed wire fence, disemboweling himself and entangling his testicles. Had his testicles remained intact, Eber would have tried to rescue him. This loyal dog received a coup de grace, hanging right there on the fence, guts asunder, balls impaled, in the form of a shotgun blast to the head. So now in my family, 'on the fence' has a different colloquial meaning.

Another dog had shown promise as a pup. Keep in mind, this is a business for Eber. So a dog has to earn his keep, at a minimum. So this promising dog is "running trash," that is to say he is wasting everyone's time chasing cats, opossum, rats, etc. instead of legitimate game. So Eber has worked with this dog, trying to correct his malfunction, and things are looking good until the dog brings back a baby opossum. Eber praises him, gives the dog a hunk of smoked raccoon meat, waits for him to lower his head to eat, draws his revolver, and sends the defective machine back to the manufacturer.

So dad brought me up with that shiat rattling around in his head, and there is a transfer that occurs with the telling of tales and the general mindset of elders.

When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunate ...


Ok, wasn't expecting the comments for this article to hit so close to home....very close. I grew up in rural Indiana. My Grandfather and Father were rabbit hunters....we had 4-6 beagles in kennels or on lines as long as I can remember. My grandfather had a similar attitude towards "working dogs" that sethen320's great grandfather had. I suspect they were men from the same era, and grew up in the depression. A dog that ran deer "trash" could cost you a day's hunt...and therefore meals for your family. A dog that ran trash would also bring the other dogs in the pack along with it...and therefore teach them to also run trash. The quickest and most effective way to prevent one bad egg from ruining the entire bunch, and costing a family a great deal of food an financial troubles was a shotgun to the brain-pan.
My father, also and avid hunter wasn't even remotely this way. Our family was in a much better financial situation and hunting was a supplemental source of nutrition rather than a primary source. We did not kill our defective beagles (and we had a few), they were turned into house/yard pets or given to a family who wanted a cuddly beagle to call their own. Beagles are sweet hearts and make excellent pets.
I have killed pets for euthanasia purposes, and do not regret it...but when and how to do it depends on the pet. The old hunting dogs that were riddled with cancer to the point where the aspirins weren't helping and their lives looked miserable. Those old dogs were taken for their last hunt. Hunting is something these dogs lived to do, the loved it. They would scream and howl every time you opened a tail gate to the truck. They loved the opportunity to do what they were born and bred to do. The thought of carrying my old beagles into that cold vet's office they hated so much wasn't  a thought I found comfortable. Yo have them die on a cold metal table in a place they felt so uncomfortable, to me that would be the greatest betrayal I could have ever done to them. I owed them better than that. They served me and my family well, and damn it I will do my best to make sure they are happy and as comfortable as possible when they exit for the big briar patch in the sky. After the deed was done they were buried in the fields a hollers they ran in.
I now have a puggle named Norman, and he is a 100% house dog. He's tubby and lovable and is quite possibly my best friend in the world. I love him. He is not a hunting dog, unless stalking bacon counts. When his time comes I will take him to the vet and let the vet do the dirty work. Norman does'n't mind the vet and is usually excited by the sites and smells he finds there....so I think that would be ok for him. If I were to take him out into the woods...he'd be like "WTF? It's cold out, and not a pillow in site...this sucks..I think I'm itchy". Yeah, so he will not be taking any kind of of last hunt, and I'll be glad to not have that burden to carry if I were to ever have to have him put down.
 
2013-06-29 07:19:36 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Most cops would plant the 12 pack on her if they made a "mistake". To quote one officer about 25 years ago: "We don't make mistakes; you made the mistake."


In many cases, artificial sweeteners lead to greater incidence of obesity, as the body disassociates the sensation of sweetness from the impact.
 
2013-06-29 07:21:05 AM

doglover: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

On one hand, yes. But in this case, it's totally understandable and no-one got screwed.

Policing may not be for this man, as he has a conscience.

While I agree that policing is clearly not in this guys future, do not mistake the lack of fortitude to do unpleasant necessities with a conscience.
 
2013-06-29 07:39:18 AM

picturescrazy: That said, when I came home and found a rabbit on my driveway that was shaking and missing the skin off its back (I assume a cat's doing but I'll never know) I did what had to be done. I smacked it on the head with a shovel because that was the quickest and most humane way I had of killing it. My choices were to do that, or let it suffer in shock for awhile before dying on its own. You can still be a human being and put down an animal. Besides, everyone's big problem is that he gave his gun to a stranger.


I once hit a cat that ran across the road from underneath a car (I saw it a second before I hit it).  I stopped and went back and it was farked, but still gasping.  I had to get my tire iron and bash it's poor brain, and then drag it to the side of the road and cover it with a tshirt.

I felt horrible for weeks.  Friends telling me I should have saved it didn't help.

/it was well and truly beyond hope, 3/4 of the poor thing was smooshed.
//sniff
 
2013-06-29 07:43:26 AM
My favorite kitty, kitty mew, died of old age, last week.  She's buried in a shoe box between the houses.  It was sad to find her stiff and lifeless in front of a bedroom door.  Hakunna Matata.   :   \
 
2013-06-29 07:53:44 AM
I would have tried to save the fawn by wrapping it in a blanket and bringing it to a veterinary hospital.

The cop cherishes life. Anyone can squeeze a trigger and take a life.
 
2013-06-29 07:58:43 AM
DrExplosion,
He was a pussy not because he refused to kill an animal, but because he lacked the will to do what he thought was the right thing. You shouldn't be happy that someone like him is a cop.
If he had refused and argued that the deer didn't need to be killed, that would be his conscience. If he had carried the deer to the nearest vet, that would be a very strong conscience indeed. Instead, he agreed that the deer needed to be shot, but passed his responsibility to a bystander because he lacked the mental fortitude to do the right thing. It's not that he wouldn't do it, it's that he couldn't do it even though he thought it needed to be done. Such a person should not be police officer.


I would agree his decision on a bit on the pussy side. Remember on Godfather I where he is talking about shooting some from a mile away vs you get in their face and see their brain explode, maybe the cop has never hunted before. Or never really wanted to shoot people/animals if they didn't have to.

But maybe the police force should be full of people that are not afraid to see those brains explode right in front of their face, not be afraid to arrest people because they broke the law, regardless of context, maybe even give a rightful beatdown when they know they are right.

/The police force should be no place for compassion, weakness or pussies, right?
 
2013-06-29 08:03:21 AM
On the other hand. He's perfectly fine shooting your dog or tazing your grandmother.
 
2013-06-29 08:35:31 AM
You never give up your gun stupid. man up nancy.
 
2013-06-29 08:45:43 AM

taurusowner: Giving his firearm to a random person shows a severe lack of judgement and an inability to keep cool on the job.


There are no good cops. All cops abuse their power in every situation and cannot be trusted, ever. Just like all non-cops are crooks and will behave unlawfully in every situation unless there's a cop around to beat them down.

/  Trust is a two-way street.
 
2013-06-29 08:51:19 AM
Enemabag Jones:
I would agree his decision on a bit on the pussy side. Remember on Godfather I where he is talking about shooting some from a mile away vs you get in their face and see their brain explode, maybe the cop has never hunted before. Or never really wanted to shoot people/animals if they didn't have to.

But maybe the police force should be full of people that are not afraid to see those brains explode right in front of their face, not be afraid to arrest people because they broke the law, regardless of context, maybe even give a rightful beatdown when they know they are right.

/The police force should be no place for compassion, weakness or pussies, right?


You never truly know how you'll respond to this stuff until it happens. He may have been a fine cop up until then and had every reason to believe that he was capable of doing his job, but he has now proven that he is woefully unprepared for the worst aspects of police work. If he knew himself before now, he should never have become a police officer. If he never knew himself until now, he should stop being a police officer and be thankful that he didn't have to learn it the hard way.

Fear is natural, but the police force should be full of people who can overcome the fear of what police work entails. Failure to do their jobs properly can easily cause the deaths of innocent people, so those who know that they're incapable of it are willfully endangering themselves and others.

Some would probably argue that the police force is no place for compassion because they believe law enforcement should be impartial. I'd only say that it's no place for unchecked compassion. For instance, a lot of people (particularly women) like to play the victim or turn on the waterworks when they get arrested, and I'm sure you'd agree that people need to be arrested from time to time. I don't think cops need to be robots to do their jobs, but they do need to be able to ignore stuff like that.

/still no place for weakness or pussies
 
2013-06-29 08:52:06 AM
HindiDiscoMonster
2013-06-29 06:56:17 AM


OnlyM3: dopekitty74
More cops need to be revolted by killing/beating the crap out of people. Maybe they'd find other, better ways of dealing with situations.
We have exactly one (1) example of that type of cop. . .

. . . They fired her ass

I read about this the first time it was here on Fark. ...And cops wonder why we don't trust any of them. This seems to be the hiring/termination procedure:

1. Hire person
2. If person commits crime against citizen go to 4
3. If person defends citizen against crime from other officers go to 6
4. Ignore, or slap on the wrist
5. Goto 2
6 Terminate person with prejudice while fabricating additional "evidence" for termination

You forgot the "they got caught" subroutine
4.5 IF situation$ = GOTCAUGHT and CANTBURRYSTORY gosub 7
7. Gather by the thousands chant "Hero" and hold signs with same.
8. Return

*Photo of this subroutine in action
www.upl.co
 
2013-06-29 08:54:48 AM
Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.
 
2013-06-29 09:01:23 AM
DrExplosion
Some would probably argue that the police force is no place for compassion because they believe law enforcement should be impartial. I'd only say that it's no place for unchecked compassion. For instance, a lot of people (particularly women) like to play the victim or turn on the waterworks when they get arrested, and I'm sure you'd agree that people need to be arrested from time to time. I don't think cops need to be robots to do their jobs, but they do need to be able to ignore stuff like that.
/still no place for weakness or pussies


We don't disagree that much, but police have now pushed out the soft people keeping the hard people (and sometimes borderline psychopaths) in check.

So now all one office has to do is say 'he is going for my gun', and the stories line up. Make it someone who is willing to cross the line to put out of control officers in check, they will will be run out of their dept.
 
2013-06-29 09:03:11 AM
Bet he wouldn't have had a problem if it was the family dog.
 
2013-06-29 09:05:37 AM
big pig peaches
Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


I pictured it as a male that never hunted and didn't want to see brains go splat.

/Don't reveal your own internal sexism.

//The name first name was Kim.
 
2013-06-29 09:22:25 AM

big pig peaches: Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


Read that as 'guess at gander'...maybe the suburban wildlife theme..
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2013-06-29 09:24:47 AM
Enemabag Jones: We don't disagree that much, but police have now pushed out the soft people keeping the hard people (and sometimes borderline psychopaths) in check.

So now all one office has to do is say 'he is going for my gun', and the stories line up. Make it someone who is willing to cross the line to put out of control officers in check, they will will be run out of their dept.


I'm not even going to pretend that there aren't a lot of bad cops. It may even be true that most of them are bad. This guy is also a bad cop, just in a different way.

I also don't believe that the corrupt or brutal cops are anything new, but then I've only been paying attention for a couple of decades and all of my encounters with cops have been pleasant enough, so I can't really say for certain.
 
2013-06-29 09:29:59 AM

big pig peaches: Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


FTA "I went inside to get my gun, and when I came out, my wife told me that (the officer) said he couldn't do it," Anderson said. "She said he had tears in his eyes, and he handed his gun to a stranger - his loaded gun.

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Wuss!
 
2013-06-29 09:37:42 AM
DrExplosion,
I'm not even going to pretend that there aren't a lot of bad cops. It may even be true that most of them are bad. This guy is also a bad cop, just in a different way.
I also don't believe that the corrupt or brutal cops are anything new, but then I've only been paying attention for a couple of decades and all of my encounters with cops have been pleasant enough, so I can't really say for certain.

I used to feel the way you do. Then a mostly random circumstance with a couple of power-tripping cops changed my point of view.
 
2013-06-29 09:40:59 AM

novalord2: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: novalord2: wahhhhhhhhhh i'm not going to shoot the deer because I'm apparently a sadist who wants the deer to suffer wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

what an irrational person

//euthanasia is a routine part of hunting (for meat, not sport). Use a second shot to put an animal out of its misery, or you are a dick.

Damn, and here I've just been wounding them to slow them down and then chewing my way through through their chest.  Are you saying I've been doing it wrong all these years?

I've seen people who don't bother to really kill the animal. Sport hunters.


Yeah, that's...grotesque.
 
2013-06-29 09:48:32 AM
What a snitch. Just because the group around the deer didn't wait for him to get back with his gun to shoot it, he reports it. And he didn't even see it. His wife told him what happened.

Sounds like a fascist tattling on a public servant for not being fascist.
 
2013-06-29 09:55:26 AM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: EvilAvatar: So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on

I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


Everyone should have a visceral revulsion to killing. You don't have the slightest idea what police do all day, do you? Hint: it's not like TV.
 
2013-06-29 10:20:01 AM

Enemabag Jones: big pig peaches
Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.

I pictured it as a male that never hunted and didn't want to see brains go splat.

/Don't reveal your own internal sexism.

//The name first name was Kim.


Oh its not internal. I openly think men are much better at killing things than women.
 
2013-06-29 10:28:21 AM
big pig peaches
Oh its not internal. I openly think men are much better at killing things than women.


How about at killing things quickly?

/That was sexist.
 
2013-06-29 10:32:25 AM
On the bright side, this story will get that cop traction with the chicks at just about any bar...
 
2013-06-29 10:47:47 AM
There was a time in this nation, and not too long ago, that the police appreciated the help, armed if necessary, of private citizens. Now most of us would turn away from such a situation for fear of the police turning on us for any of no good reason.

How low we have sunk. Sad.
 
2013-06-29 11:09:36 AM
I had venison for supper last night. Onion, garlic, frozen peas, a can of beef gravy, wine, bay leaf, and a 3 lb. hunk of Bambi,, in the crock pot for 4 hrs. It was quite good. I'm gonna have some more for lunch today. That is all can contribute to this thread.
 
2013-06-29 11:13:35 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply.


Yeah, we saw what you posted at the start of the thread.  We get it dude
 
2013-06-29 11:21:47 AM

NickelP: I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.


Same here.  Euthanizing animals isn't anybody's idea of fun, but it's a necessary evil.
 
2013-06-29 11:28:29 AM
Bambi issues.  If it had been a pothead he would have asked questions later.
 
2013-06-29 11:57:34 AM

sethen320: I always get annoyed by the people who say stuff like "I'd rather pay for the bullet and put my dog down then pay the vet $500 for surgery".  Why do you even have a pet?


To avoid spending money on hookers?
 
2013-06-29 11:58:36 AM
Would be nice if they had a phone list of hunter dudes who have firearms, are licensed to use them (not a gun license per say but proof you took the basic hunter safety course and aren't a random wacko), and know how to most humanely kill a deer. These guys also want the deer meat to eat so it isn't a complete waste.

My hubby came home one day and said he was driving and saw a rabbit crawling across the road. It had been hit by a car (maybe attacked by another animal, hard to tell) and was paralyzed in the back legs. Having spent time on a farm that raised rabbits (for food), he picked it up, checked it out, determined it was permanently damaged and never going to recover, and bashed it on the head with his tire iron.

Yea, I couldn't have done that, because I am a coward. I would have kept driving, or maybe called someone to help me. Then again, I don't have a profession that would ever require me to kill someone for any reason.
 
2013-06-29 12:09:14 PM

spidermilk: Would be nice if they had a phone list of hunter dudes who have firearms,


You know who else wanted a list of people with firearms?
 
2013-06-29 12:09:22 PM

ThatDarkFellow: When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the ...

Yeah, and your dad beat the shiat out of your mom so she didn't have to compete in the business world. It was humane.

Christ you sound like a sociopath.


You lose the argument. Corollary to Godwin's Law.

I'm weary of people who abuse the word "sociopath."  They suck as much as the abusers of "racist," "sexist," and "rape."  Fark 'em all.  Sometimes it's ignorance; often it's disingenuous. But it's always done to derail honest debate.
 
2013-06-29 12:22:14 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I'm weary of people who abuse the word "sociopath."   They suck as much as the abusers of "racist," "sexist," and "rape."  Fark 'em all.  Sometimes it's ignorance; often it's disingenuous. But it's always done to derail honest debate.


Oh, this will be good. Please, expand on your explanation. I honestly want to hear your rationale in making this statement.
 
2013-06-29 12:28:02 PM

cuzsis: As someone who helped call in a soon-to-be-euthanized-with-a-bullet deer....
[...]
  The deer was struggling to sit up, but didn't seem to have control of it's back legs. While we watched, a bunch of assholes in their lifted black pickup with big tires came barreling down the road. Swerving a bit and gunning the engine, they succeeded in running over the deer with both sets of tires, leaving it even more mortally wounded than before, but still alive.
[...]
/felt bad for the deer
//still pissed at the assholes in the pickup.


Actually you should be very impressed. It requires a tremendous amount of courage to sit safely in a large truck, protected by a safety cage of metal and run over a defenseless injured animal. A tremendous amount of courage. The driver should be put in for a valor award. Think about how dangerous it was for the driver.

Truly a courageous individual. He carried out an act of valor.
 
2013-06-29 12:53:31 PM
cuzsis: While we watched, a bunch of assholes in their lifted black pickup with big tires came barreling down the road. Swerving a bit and gunning the engine, they succeeded in running over the deer with both sets of tires, leaving it even more mortally wounded than before, but still alive.

dafuq did I just read
 
2013-06-29 01:09:32 PM

BarkingUnicorn: ThatDarkFellow: When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the ...

Yeah, and your dad beat the shiat out of your mom so she didn't have to compete in the business world. It was humane.

Christ you sound like a sociopath.

You lose the argument. Corollary to Godwin's Law.

I'm weary of people who abuse the word "sociopath."  They suck as much as the abusers of "racist," "sexist," and "rape."  Fark 'em all.  Sometimes it's ignorance; often it's disingenuous. But it's always done to derail honest debate.


That sounds like a wordy way of knocking over the game board and huffing off.

/who doesn't like to stomp on rabbits, right?
 
2013-06-29 01:12:33 PM

big pig peaches: Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


Sounds like a dude FTFA:

"I went inside to get my gun, and when I came out, my wife told me that (the officer) said he couldn't do it," Anderson said. "She said he had tears in his eyes, and he handed his gun to a stranger - his loaded gun."
 
2013-06-29 01:29:27 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


Some of us get this crap for free too.
 
2013-06-29 04:32:40 PM
Will shoot you?
Yes.
Shoot terminally wounded animal?
No.

There's a civics lesson here ...
 
2013-06-29 06:10:37 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


I once had the burden of euthanizing an injured baby deer a person had hit with a car. It was the second-worst experience of my life, and the end of my yard is at a spot where deer get hit all the time. I've had to euthanize four since I've lived here, and that baby fawn was the worst one.

Had I been present at the situation in TFA, I would have accepted the gun, done what was needed and then taken the officer for ice cream or a beer, whatever he needed for consolation, and moreover, I would have told TMZ that the person they paid for the story hadn't even been there, couldn't have seen a thing and had been rumored for years to deduct his pet goat as an entertainment expense.

Always keep the number of a local animal rescue or small zoo and a folded contractor-grade garbage bag in your glovebox when you live out in deer country. Even when an animal can't be saved, their meat is the last gift they can leave to other animals in need of help and rescue. My poor baby deer's remains made several delicious meals for the big cats at a rescue zoo. The only silver lining of the whole experience was watching the serval and tiger happily cavort and play, as they really, really love venison. Plus, the tiger makes a specific noise and perks up whenever I visit her now. Her keeper says that the noise means 'Food? Food now?' in tiger-ish, so I trade homebrewed beer for venison from my hunter friends and always try to bring the tiger at least some chops.

It is horrible that baby deer had to die, but at least they don't suffer any longer once a compassionate human gets there, and other animals can be fed as a result.

/I am part of nature, and nature is part of me. We honor the spirit of the lost ones by sharing what they leave and letting their spirits walk with our own.
 
2013-06-29 06:33:25 PM
This is THE most uniquely human problem: actually having a conscience.
 
2013-06-29 06:45:13 PM

ThatDarkFellow: NickelP: I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.

I would have no problem shooting a person compared to an animal.


I've known... interesting people who have said the same thing, except replace "would have no" with "have no". O.o
 
2013-06-29 10:09:06 PM

sethen320: eventhelosers: sethen320: RealAmericanHero: Wall_of_Doodoo: Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.

Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.

Seriously?  Stop whining.

If you wanna be enemies that's fine.  Just don't be a crybaby.

Awww I'm sure you guys are gonna have great makeup sex.

I would love to come back with something witty but that was too good.  You saw the shot and you took it.  I can't blame you for it and I applaud the result.


sorry i couldn't resist, thanks for understanding
 
2013-06-29 10:57:27 PM
They should have told him it was a service dog.
 
2013-06-30 02:13:16 AM
Trayvon Martin wouldn't have needed a gun to kill that deer. He would have bashed its head into the asphalt. Fact.
 
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