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(IndyStar)   Police officer tasked with euthanizing wounded deer. Does he: c) Break down in tears, say he "can't do it," and hand his duty firearm to a random bystander?   (indystar.com) divider line 197
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2013-06-29 07:19:36 AM

Because People in power are Stupid: Most cops would plant the 12 pack on her if they made a "mistake". To quote one officer about 25 years ago: "We don't make mistakes; you made the mistake."


In many cases, artificial sweeteners lead to greater incidence of obesity, as the body disassociates the sensation of sweetness from the impact.
 
2013-06-29 07:21:05 AM

doglover: Lsherm: I'm fairly certain that's against procedure in every farking police department in the country.

On one hand, yes. But in this case, it's totally understandable and no-one got screwed.

Policing may not be for this man, as he has a conscience.

While I agree that policing is clearly not in this guys future, do not mistake the lack of fortitude to do unpleasant necessities with a conscience.
 
2013-06-29 07:39:18 AM

picturescrazy: That said, when I came home and found a rabbit on my driveway that was shaking and missing the skin off its back (I assume a cat's doing but I'll never know) I did what had to be done. I smacked it on the head with a shovel because that was the quickest and most humane way I had of killing it. My choices were to do that, or let it suffer in shock for awhile before dying on its own. You can still be a human being and put down an animal. Besides, everyone's big problem is that he gave his gun to a stranger.


I once hit a cat that ran across the road from underneath a car (I saw it a second before I hit it).  I stopped and went back and it was farked, but still gasping.  I had to get my tire iron and bash it's poor brain, and then drag it to the side of the road and cover it with a tshirt.

I felt horrible for weeks.  Friends telling me I should have saved it didn't help.

/it was well and truly beyond hope, 3/4 of the poor thing was smooshed.
//sniff
 
2013-06-29 07:43:26 AM
My favorite kitty, kitty mew, died of old age, last week.  She's buried in a shoe box between the houses.  It was sad to find her stiff and lifeless in front of a bedroom door.  Hakunna Matata.   :   \
 
2013-06-29 07:53:44 AM
I would have tried to save the fawn by wrapping it in a blanket and bringing it to a veterinary hospital.

The cop cherishes life. Anyone can squeeze a trigger and take a life.
 
2013-06-29 07:58:43 AM
DrExplosion,
He was a pussy not because he refused to kill an animal, but because he lacked the will to do what he thought was the right thing. You shouldn't be happy that someone like him is a cop.
If he had refused and argued that the deer didn't need to be killed, that would be his conscience. If he had carried the deer to the nearest vet, that would be a very strong conscience indeed. Instead, he agreed that the deer needed to be shot, but passed his responsibility to a bystander because he lacked the mental fortitude to do the right thing. It's not that he wouldn't do it, it's that he couldn't do it even though he thought it needed to be done. Such a person should not be police officer.


I would agree his decision on a bit on the pussy side. Remember on Godfather I where he is talking about shooting some from a mile away vs you get in their face and see their brain explode, maybe the cop has never hunted before. Or never really wanted to shoot people/animals if they didn't have to.

But maybe the police force should be full of people that are not afraid to see those brains explode right in front of their face, not be afraid to arrest people because they broke the law, regardless of context, maybe even give a rightful beatdown when they know they are right.

/The police force should be no place for compassion, weakness or pussies, right?
 
2013-06-29 08:03:21 AM
On the other hand. He's perfectly fine shooting your dog or tazing your grandmother.
 
2013-06-29 08:35:31 AM
You never give up your gun stupid. man up nancy.
 
2013-06-29 08:45:43 AM

taurusowner: Giving his firearm to a random person shows a severe lack of judgement and an inability to keep cool on the job.


There are no good cops. All cops abuse their power in every situation and cannot be trusted, ever. Just like all non-cops are crooks and will behave unlawfully in every situation unless there's a cop around to beat them down.

/  Trust is a two-way street.
 
2013-06-29 08:51:19 AM
Enemabag Jones:
I would agree his decision on a bit on the pussy side. Remember on Godfather I where he is talking about shooting some from a mile away vs you get in their face and see their brain explode, maybe the cop has never hunted before. Or never really wanted to shoot people/animals if they didn't have to.

But maybe the police force should be full of people that are not afraid to see those brains explode right in front of their face, not be afraid to arrest people because they broke the law, regardless of context, maybe even give a rightful beatdown when they know they are right.

/The police force should be no place for compassion, weakness or pussies, right?


You never truly know how you'll respond to this stuff until it happens. He may have been a fine cop up until then and had every reason to believe that he was capable of doing his job, but he has now proven that he is woefully unprepared for the worst aspects of police work. If he knew himself before now, he should never have become a police officer. If he never knew himself until now, he should stop being a police officer and be thankful that he didn't have to learn it the hard way.

Fear is natural, but the police force should be full of people who can overcome the fear of what police work entails. Failure to do their jobs properly can easily cause the deaths of innocent people, so those who know that they're incapable of it are willfully endangering themselves and others.

Some would probably argue that the police force is no place for compassion because they believe law enforcement should be impartial. I'd only say that it's no place for unchecked compassion. For instance, a lot of people (particularly women) like to play the victim or turn on the waterworks when they get arrested, and I'm sure you'd agree that people need to be arrested from time to time. I don't think cops need to be robots to do their jobs, but they do need to be able to ignore stuff like that.

/still no place for weakness or pussies
 
2013-06-29 08:52:06 AM
HindiDiscoMonster
2013-06-29 06:56:17 AM


OnlyM3: dopekitty74
More cops need to be revolted by killing/beating the crap out of people. Maybe they'd find other, better ways of dealing with situations.
We have exactly one (1) example of that type of cop. . .

. . . They fired her ass

I read about this the first time it was here on Fark. ...And cops wonder why we don't trust any of them. This seems to be the hiring/termination procedure:

1. Hire person
2. If person commits crime against citizen go to 4
3. If person defends citizen against crime from other officers go to 6
4. Ignore, or slap on the wrist
5. Goto 2
6 Terminate person with prejudice while fabricating additional "evidence" for termination

You forgot the "they got caught" subroutine
4.5 IF situation$ = GOTCAUGHT and CANTBURRYSTORY gosub 7
7. Gather by the thousands chant "Hero" and hold signs with same.
8. Return

*Photo of this subroutine in action
www.upl.co
 
2013-06-29 08:54:48 AM
Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.
 
2013-06-29 09:01:23 AM
DrExplosion
Some would probably argue that the police force is no place for compassion because they believe law enforcement should be impartial. I'd only say that it's no place for unchecked compassion. For instance, a lot of people (particularly women) like to play the victim or turn on the waterworks when they get arrested, and I'm sure you'd agree that people need to be arrested from time to time. I don't think cops need to be robots to do their jobs, but they do need to be able to ignore stuff like that.
/still no place for weakness or pussies


We don't disagree that much, but police have now pushed out the soft people keeping the hard people (and sometimes borderline psychopaths) in check.

So now all one office has to do is say 'he is going for my gun', and the stories line up. Make it someone who is willing to cross the line to put out of control officers in check, they will will be run out of their dept.
 
2013-06-29 09:03:11 AM
Bet he wouldn't have had a problem if it was the family dog.
 
2013-06-29 09:05:37 AM
big pig peaches
Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


I pictured it as a male that never hunted and didn't want to see brains go splat.

/Don't reveal your own internal sexism.

//The name first name was Kim.
 
2013-06-29 09:22:25 AM

big pig peaches: Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


Read that as 'guess at gander'...maybe the suburban wildlife theme..
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2013-06-29 09:24:47 AM
Enemabag Jones: We don't disagree that much, but police have now pushed out the soft people keeping the hard people (and sometimes borderline psychopaths) in check.

So now all one office has to do is say 'he is going for my gun', and the stories line up. Make it someone who is willing to cross the line to put out of control officers in check, they will will be run out of their dept.


I'm not even going to pretend that there aren't a lot of bad cops. It may even be true that most of them are bad. This guy is also a bad cop, just in a different way.

I also don't believe that the corrupt or brutal cops are anything new, but then I've only been paying attention for a couple of decades and all of my encounters with cops have been pleasant enough, so I can't really say for certain.
 
2013-06-29 09:29:59 AM

big pig peaches: Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


FTA "I went inside to get my gun, and when I came out, my wife told me that (the officer) said he couldn't do it," Anderson said. "She said he had tears in his eyes, and he handed his gun to a stranger - his loaded gun.

thumbs.anyclip.com
Wuss!
 
2013-06-29 09:37:42 AM
DrExplosion,
I'm not even going to pretend that there aren't a lot of bad cops. It may even be true that most of them are bad. This guy is also a bad cop, just in a different way.
I also don't believe that the corrupt or brutal cops are anything new, but then I've only been paying attention for a couple of decades and all of my encounters with cops have been pleasant enough, so I can't really say for certain.

I used to feel the way you do. Then a mostly random circumstance with a couple of power-tripping cops changed my point of view.
 
2013-06-29 09:40:59 AM

novalord2: Smirky the Wonder Chimp: novalord2: wahhhhhhhhhh i'm not going to shoot the deer because I'm apparently a sadist who wants the deer to suffer wahhhhhhhhhhhhh

what an irrational person

//euthanasia is a routine part of hunting (for meat, not sport). Use a second shot to put an animal out of its misery, or you are a dick.

Damn, and here I've just been wounding them to slow them down and then chewing my way through through their chest.  Are you saying I've been doing it wrong all these years?

I've seen people who don't bother to really kill the animal. Sport hunters.


Yeah, that's...grotesque.
 
2013-06-29 09:48:32 AM
What a snitch. Just because the group around the deer didn't wait for him to get back with his gun to shoot it, he reports it. And he didn't even see it. His wife told him what happened.

Sounds like a fascist tattling on a public servant for not being fascist.
 
2013-06-29 09:55:26 AM

EvilRacistNaziFascist: EvilAvatar: So let's post a bad decision for all the world to view and make a mockery of a man for having a moment of weakness. Because in 'murica we lick the salty tears up like deep fried butter right? I mean, of course this dude, his family, the police department, and probably the guy that was handed the gun is going to be hassled for a very very long time, but as long as it's for a laugh on the internet right fellas? Reading half the comments on this thread is a fairly solid motive for some cops to become assholes. Because the power-hungry thugs are the status quo, and the good people who make mistakes get humiliated and fired. 

/You are the cause of your own problems.
//flame on

I've no desire to flame you, but the fact remains that if you're in a law enforcement job and you have a visceral revulsion towards killing living things, you're better off employed elsewhere.


Everyone should have a visceral revulsion to killing. You don't have the slightest idea what police do all day, do you? Hint: it's not like TV.
 
2013-06-29 10:20:01 AM

Enemabag Jones: big pig peaches
Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.

I pictured it as a male that never hunted and didn't want to see brains go splat.

/Don't reveal your own internal sexism.

//The name first name was Kim.


Oh its not internal. I openly think men are much better at killing things than women.
 
2013-06-29 10:28:21 AM
big pig peaches
Oh its not internal. I openly think men are much better at killing things than women.


How about at killing things quickly?

/That was sexist.
 
2013-06-29 10:32:25 AM
On the bright side, this story will get that cop traction with the chicks at just about any bar...
 
2013-06-29 10:47:47 AM
There was a time in this nation, and not too long ago, that the police appreciated the help, armed if necessary, of private citizens. Now most of us would turn away from such a situation for fear of the police turning on us for any of no good reason.

How low we have sunk. Sad.
 
2013-06-29 11:09:36 AM
I had venison for supper last night. Onion, garlic, frozen peas, a can of beef gravy, wine, bay leaf, and a 3 lb. hunk of Bambi,, in the crock pot for 4 hrs. It was quite good. I'm gonna have some more for lunch today. That is all can contribute to this thread.
 
2013-06-29 11:13:35 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply.


Yeah, we saw what you posted at the start of the thread.  We get it dude
 
2013-06-29 11:21:47 AM

NickelP: I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.


Same here.  Euthanizing animals isn't anybody's idea of fun, but it's a necessary evil.
 
2013-06-29 11:28:29 AM
Bambi issues.  If it had been a pothead he would have asked questions later.
 
2013-06-29 11:57:34 AM

sethen320: I always get annoyed by the people who say stuff like "I'd rather pay for the bullet and put my dog down then pay the vet $500 for surgery".  Why do you even have a pet?


To avoid spending money on hookers?
 
2013-06-29 11:58:36 AM
Would be nice if they had a phone list of hunter dudes who have firearms, are licensed to use them (not a gun license per say but proof you took the basic hunter safety course and aren't a random wacko), and know how to most humanely kill a deer. These guys also want the deer meat to eat so it isn't a complete waste.

My hubby came home one day and said he was driving and saw a rabbit crawling across the road. It had been hit by a car (maybe attacked by another animal, hard to tell) and was paralyzed in the back legs. Having spent time on a farm that raised rabbits (for food), he picked it up, checked it out, determined it was permanently damaged and never going to recover, and bashed it on the head with his tire iron.

Yea, I couldn't have done that, because I am a coward. I would have kept driving, or maybe called someone to help me. Then again, I don't have a profession that would ever require me to kill someone for any reason.
 
2013-06-29 12:09:14 PM

spidermilk: Would be nice if they had a phone list of hunter dudes who have firearms,


You know who else wanted a list of people with firearms?
 
2013-06-29 12:09:22 PM

ThatDarkFellow: When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the ...

Yeah, and your dad beat the shiat out of your mom so she didn't have to compete in the business world. It was humane.

Christ you sound like a sociopath.


You lose the argument. Corollary to Godwin's Law.

I'm weary of people who abuse the word "sociopath."  They suck as much as the abusers of "racist," "sexist," and "rape."  Fark 'em all.  Sometimes it's ignorance; often it's disingenuous. But it's always done to derail honest debate.
 
2013-06-29 12:22:14 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I'm weary of people who abuse the word "sociopath."   They suck as much as the abusers of "racist," "sexist," and "rape."  Fark 'em all.  Sometimes it's ignorance; often it's disingenuous. But it's always done to derail honest debate.


Oh, this will be good. Please, expand on your explanation. I honestly want to hear your rationale in making this statement.
 
2013-06-29 12:28:02 PM

cuzsis: As someone who helped call in a soon-to-be-euthanized-with-a-bullet deer....
[...]
  The deer was struggling to sit up, but didn't seem to have control of it's back legs. While we watched, a bunch of assholes in their lifted black pickup with big tires came barreling down the road. Swerving a bit and gunning the engine, they succeeded in running over the deer with both sets of tires, leaving it even more mortally wounded than before, but still alive.
[...]
/felt bad for the deer
//still pissed at the assholes in the pickup.


Actually you should be very impressed. It requires a tremendous amount of courage to sit safely in a large truck, protected by a safety cage of metal and run over a defenseless injured animal. A tremendous amount of courage. The driver should be put in for a valor award. Think about how dangerous it was for the driver.

Truly a courageous individual. He carried out an act of valor.
 
2013-06-29 12:53:31 PM
cuzsis: While we watched, a bunch of assholes in their lifted black pickup with big tires came barreling down the road. Swerving a bit and gunning the engine, they succeeded in running over the deer with both sets of tires, leaving it even more mortally wounded than before, but still alive.

dafuq did I just read
 
2013-06-29 01:09:32 PM

BarkingUnicorn: ThatDarkFellow: When I was helping a friend move her son to his first apartment, said son riding shotgun in my old beat up pickup, we hit a deer. The truck survived, but so did the deer, at least long enough to drag her guts into the corn field. When I opened the glove compartment and withdrew the Ka-Bar, the goth teen about peed his Calvins.

"We have to put that animal out of its misery."

Fortunately(?) the ...

Yeah, and your dad beat the shiat out of your mom so she didn't have to compete in the business world. It was humane.

Christ you sound like a sociopath.

You lose the argument. Corollary to Godwin's Law.

I'm weary of people who abuse the word "sociopath."  They suck as much as the abusers of "racist," "sexist," and "rape."  Fark 'em all.  Sometimes it's ignorance; often it's disingenuous. But it's always done to derail honest debate.


That sounds like a wordy way of knocking over the game board and huffing off.

/who doesn't like to stomp on rabbits, right?
 
2013-06-29 01:12:33 PM

big pig peaches: Do we know the cops name? I could take a guess at gender, but that would be sexist.


Sounds like a dude FTFA:

"I went inside to get my gun, and when I came out, my wife told me that (the officer) said he couldn't do it," Anderson said. "She said he had tears in his eyes, and he handed his gun to a stranger - his loaded gun."
 
2013-06-29 01:29:27 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: So you pick an article that has already been submitted and has comments for a lamer headlined one with no comments. I guess the next step is to submit the same story from Buzzfeed and watch this one disappear?

I have an idea, why not just give us a list of sponsored links so we can slightly modify or directly quote them to be approved?

Fark was once an amazing, silly Internet site. It's becoming a humorless Huffpo crapzone.


Some of us get this crap for free too.
 
2013-06-29 04:32:40 PM
Will shoot you?
Yes.
Shoot terminally wounded animal?
No.

There's a civics lesson here ...
 
2013-06-29 06:10:37 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Yeah, it is. But, believe it or not, there was a time when a dude who was issued a bullet delivery system could look at his fellow citizens while overwhelmed and find a never again mentioned act of support. There was a time when TMZ couldn't buy you away from supporting your emotionally traumatized neighbor.

Sometimes, believe it or not, we all hurt deeply. We put in a hundred or so hours a week and shooting a baby anything despite our 'duty' becomes hard and terrible.

When you finally find a decent man enforcing the law, stop crapping on him. Sometimes flexing a finger is a larger burden than ordering a DQ cone.


I once had the burden of euthanizing an injured baby deer a person had hit with a car. It was the second-worst experience of my life, and the end of my yard is at a spot where deer get hit all the time. I've had to euthanize four since I've lived here, and that baby fawn was the worst one.

Had I been present at the situation in TFA, I would have accepted the gun, done what was needed and then taken the officer for ice cream or a beer, whatever he needed for consolation, and moreover, I would have told TMZ that the person they paid for the story hadn't even been there, couldn't have seen a thing and had been rumored for years to deduct his pet goat as an entertainment expense.

Always keep the number of a local animal rescue or small zoo and a folded contractor-grade garbage bag in your glovebox when you live out in deer country. Even when an animal can't be saved, their meat is the last gift they can leave to other animals in need of help and rescue. My poor baby deer's remains made several delicious meals for the big cats at a rescue zoo. The only silver lining of the whole experience was watching the serval and tiger happily cavort and play, as they really, really love venison. Plus, the tiger makes a specific noise and perks up whenever I visit her now. Her keeper says that the noise means 'Food? Food now?' in tiger-ish, so I trade homebrewed beer for venison from my hunter friends and always try to bring the tiger at least some chops.

It is horrible that baby deer had to die, but at least they don't suffer any longer once a compassionate human gets there, and other animals can be fed as a result.

/I am part of nature, and nature is part of me. We honor the spirit of the lost ones by sharing what they leave and letting their spirits walk with our own.
 
2013-06-29 06:33:25 PM
This is THE most uniquely human problem: actually having a conscience.
 
2013-06-29 06:45:13 PM

ThatDarkFellow: NickelP: I'm an animal lover but if the guy can't handle this I kind of would question his decision making and leadership skills.

I would have no problem shooting a person compared to an animal.


I've known... interesting people who have said the same thing, except replace "would have no" with "have no". O.o
 
2013-06-29 10:09:06 PM

sethen320: eventhelosers: sethen320: RealAmericanHero: Wall_of_Doodoo: Cut and paste for yourself. Just in case it doesn't work out, 'suck a dick' and I mean that with all intent and purpose, suck a dick.

Respond. Do it ladyboy. Be clever.

Being a bigot trying to defend yourself? Doesn't matter if you right. Go fark yourself and all your ilk.

Seriously?  Stop whining.

If you wanna be enemies that's fine.  Just don't be a crybaby.

Awww I'm sure you guys are gonna have great makeup sex.

I would love to come back with something witty but that was too good.  You saw the shot and you took it.  I can't blame you for it and I applaud the result.


sorry i couldn't resist, thanks for understanding
 
2013-06-29 10:57:27 PM
They should have told him it was a service dog.
 
2013-06-30 02:13:16 AM
Trayvon Martin wouldn't have needed a gun to kill that deer. He would have bashed its head into the asphalt. Fact.
 
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