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2013-06-28 07:51:32 PM  

give me doughnuts: super_grass: Ricardo Klement: jaytkay: LOL Gun "rights" advocates are calm, rational people LOL


"AH NEED MAH GUNZ TO FIGHT THE FLOODWATERSS!!!11!"

I'm sure you'd be calm and rational if the cops came and took your Beanie Baby collection.

Yes, but you can't kill 20 kids with beanie babies.


It depends on how hard you throw them.


I suppose that could be true if they contained lead, but you can say the exact same thing about guns.
 
2013-06-28 07:52:29 PM  
fnordfocus:
Just as an example, Browning's safes accept a "master reset code" that they'll provide to an owner if Law Enforcement requests it.  You think they won't give it straight to a LEO who calls up?

It does not say that they'll turn the reset code over to law enforcement just that they'll let law enforcement vouch for your identity. You're being paranoid.
 
2013-06-28 07:53:51 PM  

utah dude: uh... how would they find them? (if they're raiding houses and what-not? tear apart each and every person's closet? please explain this.


The RCMP entered every home to ensure that the evacuation is done.  High River (the town in question) is basically the town where urban rednecks go to live.  There is a huge amount of 4x4ing, horse riding, Git 'er Dun, shoot 'em up yokels that live there.  Guns are everywhere, like hanging on living room walls, sitting in garages, etc.  I am surprised that some guns might have actually been stored properly.
 
2013-06-28 07:56:57 PM  
Some clarification on what the police say they were doing:

From: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/06/28/pol-pmo-guns-alberta . html

"When RCMP officers were going door-to-door searching each residence for potential victims, we did come across a couple of residences where there were some firearms that were left insecure," Cpl. Darrin Turnbull told CBC News in an interview.

"In those situations, when they were out in plain view and they were not properly secured and stored, those firearms were taken by the RCMP member and safely secured in the High River detachment."
 
2013-06-28 07:57:29 PM  

Farktastic: utah dude: uh... how would they find them? (if they're raiding houses and what-not? tear apart each and every person's closet? please explain this.

The RCMP entered every home to ensure that the evacuation is done.  High River (the town in question) is basically the town where urban rednecks go to live.  There is a huge amount of 4x4ing, horse riding, Git 'er Dun, shoot 'em up yokels that live there.  Guns are everywhere, like hanging on living room walls, sitting in garages, etc.  I am surprised that some guns might have actually been stored properly.


farktastic, fantastic explanation. thank you.

my have chamber locks and are too oiled up to even barely shoot, would probably not even rust underwater.
 
2013-06-28 07:59:04 PM  

Pray 4 Mojo: Where are the horses?


Under the hood.
 
2013-06-28 07:59:38 PM  

super_grass: give me doughnuts: super_grass: Ricardo Klement: jaytkay: LOL Gun "rights" advocates are calm, rational people LOL


"AH NEED MAH GUNZ TO FIGHT THE FLOODWATERSS!!!11!"

I'm sure you'd be calm and rational if the cops came and took your Beanie Baby collection.

Yes, but you can't kill 20 kids with beanie babies.


It depends on how hard you throw them.

I suppose that could be true if they contained lead, but you can say the exact same thing about guns.


I dunno about the mythical chicken being farked by republicans, but those poor kids sure have been drug up, stacked up, and stood upon enough times that they have shoe prints in their corpses.

Any way we can convince you to let those kids rest in peace and make a clear, cogent argument that doesn't involve whoring out the emotional pain of their deaths? Or is using every one of them as emotional ammunition all you have left?
 
2013-06-28 08:00:59 PM  
Meh, it is Canada, so it is not like it is an important country or anything like that.
 
2013-06-28 08:01:24 PM  

LordJiro: So instead, these people would prefer their firearms be in the hands of looters?


The guns are in the hands of looters.
 
2013-06-28 08:03:29 PM  

utah dude: Farktastic: utah dude: uh... how would they find them? (if they're raiding houses and what-not? tear apart each and every person's closet? please explain this.

The RCMP entered every home to ensure that the evacuation is done.  High River (the town in question) is basically the town where urban rednecks go to live.  There is a huge amount of 4x4ing, horse riding, Git 'er Dun, shoot 'em up yokels that live there.  Guns are everywhere, like hanging on living room walls, sitting in garages, etc.  I am surprised that some guns might have actually been stored properly.

farktastic, fantastic explanation. thank you.

my have chamber locks and are too oiled up to even barely shoot, would probably not even rust underwater.


Excuse me, but you say redneck and git r done like its a bad thing to be. I'm a redneck, ride and keep horses, 4x4, and enjoy nature. I'm also college educated and don't fark my kinfolk. Kindly keep your bigotry to yourself, some of us find it farking offensive.
 
2013-06-28 08:04:52 PM  

PopularFront: Some clarification on what the police say they were doing:

From: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/06/28/pol-pmo-guns-alberta . html

"When RCMP officers were going door-to-door searching each residence for potential victims, we did come across a couple of residences where there were some firearms that were left insecure," Cpl. Darrin Turnbull told CBC News in an interview.

"In those situations, when they were out in plain view and they were not properly secured and stored, those firearms were taken by the RCMP member and safely secured in the High River detachment."


And this is the crux of the argument: the firearms were in my home until the cops came busting down the door for no good farking reason.
 
2013-06-28 08:05:26 PM  

jso2897: Another bullshiat, distorted victim myth from deluded gun-fappers.
They'll give your stupid guns back, after they have SECURED THEM FROM LOOTERS, you chuckleheaded morons.
Why are the people who biatch and cry about government the loudest always the inbreds who would survive about fifteen seconds without it?


If that actually happens (they give the guns back) then that is great and all that.  But it still does not excuse their blatant disregard of the law where they entered the homes without a warrant (and I am pretty sure that in Canada they do need a warrant to enter someone's home in a situation like this.

Also, ask those residents in New Orleans how great it was when a lot of the guns that were secured from looters were never returned.
 
2013-06-28 08:06:46 PM  

Bravo Two: PopularFront: Some clarification on what the police say they were doing:

From: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/06/28/pol-pmo-guns-alberta . html

"When RCMP officers were going door-to-door searching each residence for potential victims, we did come across a couple of residences where there were some firearms that were left insecure," Cpl. Darrin Turnbull told CBC News in an interview.

"In those situations, when they were out in plain view and they were not properly secured and stored, those firearms were taken by the RCMP member and safely secured in the High River detachment."

And this is the crux of the argument: the firearms were in my home until the cops came busting down the door for no good farking reason.


They had a good reason to come into your home if your were in the evacuation zone, and that was to see if there were any victims from the flood or people in need of help.
 
2013-06-28 08:07:01 PM  

Bravo Two: super_grass: give me doughnuts: super_grass: Ricardo Klement: jaytkay: LOL Gun "rights" advocates are calm, rational people LOL


"AH NEED MAH GUNZ TO FIGHT THE FLOODWATERSS!!!11!"

I'm sure you'd be calm and rational if the cops came and took your Beanie Baby collection.

Yes, but you can't kill 20 kids with beanie babies.


It depends on how hard you throw them.

I suppose that could be true if they contained lead, but you can say the exact same thing about guns.

I dunno about the mythical chicken being farked by republicans, but those poor kids sure have been drug up, stacked up, and stood upon enough times that they have shoe prints in their corpses.

Any way we can convince you to let those kids rest in peace and make a clear, cogent argument that doesn't involve whoring out the emotional pain of their deaths? Or is using every one of them as emotional ammunition all you have left?


Not demanding some unspecified  𝓘𝓜𝓜𝓔𝓓𝓘𝓐𝓣𝓔 𝓐𝓒𝓣𝓘𝓞𝓝 (tm) is implication that you hate these kids and are willing to throw their lives away for some radical stance that I'm fairly certain that you must hold. And last time I checked, not submitting to our gun restrictions, no matter how poorly planned or counter-effective you might think, is evidence enough that you don't care about the issue at all.

You should stop watching Faux Snooz and pay attention to the intellectual giants of Piers Morgan and MSNBC. You might just learn something.
 
2013-06-28 08:08:37 PM  

Mock26: jso2897: Another bullshiat, distorted victim myth from deluded gun-fappers.
They'll give your stupid guns back, after they have SECURED THEM FROM LOOTERS, you chuckleheaded morons.
Why are the people who biatch and cry about government the loudest always the inbreds who would survive about fifteen seconds without it?

If that actually happens (they give the guns back) then that is great and all that.  But it still does not excuse their blatant disregard of the law where they entered the homes without a warrant (and I am pretty sure that in Canada they do need a warrant to enter someone's home in a situation like this.

Also, ask those residents in New Orleans how great it was when a lot of the guns that were secured from looters were never returned.


Correction.  Turns out they had the authority, what with the declared state of emergency and all that.  But, do they have the authority to remove items such as the guns?
 
2013-06-28 08:09:03 PM  
They should send them to the US and put them into the hands of NFL players.
 
2013-06-28 08:09:20 PM  

super_grass: give me doughnuts: super_grass: Ricardo Klement: jaytkay: LOL Gun "rights" advocates are calm, rational people LOL


"AH NEED MAH GUNZ TO FIGHT THE FLOODWATERSS!!!11!"

I'm sure you'd be calm and rational if the cops came and took your Beanie Baby collection.

Yes, but you can't kill 20 kids with beanie babies.


It depends on how hard you throw them.

I suppose that could be true if they contained lead, but you can say the exact same thing about guns.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tuZURhc1EM
 
2013-06-28 08:12:27 PM  

Mock26: jso2897: Another bullshiat, distorted victim myth from deluded gun-fappers.
They'll give your stupid guns back, after they have SECURED THEM FROM LOOTERS, you chuckleheaded morons.
Why are the people who biatch and cry about government the loudest always the inbreds who would survive about fifteen seconds without it?

If that actually happens (they give the guns back) then that is great and all that.  But it still does not excuse their blatant disregard of the law where they entered the homes without a warrant (and I am pretty sure that in Canada they do need a warrant to enter someone's home in a situation like this.

Also, ask those residents in New Orleans how great it was when a lot of the guns that were secured from looters were never returned.


Posted earlier


Each province has their own act, but http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/E06P8.pdf <-- that, applies to Alberta.  Section 19(1)(h) is the relevant part:

"authorize the entry into any building or on any land,
without warrant, by any person in the course of implementing an emergency plan or program;
 
2013-06-28 08:12:48 PM  

Bravo Two: Any way we can convince you to let those kids rest in peace and make a clear, cogent argument that doesn't involve whoring out the emotional pain of their deaths?


How dare the gun-grabbers mention those dear, dear children. Clearly those dead kids belong to the gun community.

/ Cuz the gun community made them dead
 
2013-06-28 08:15:45 PM  
I don't buy the argument that they were keeping them safe. There's nobody in the town - the police have it sealed off. Bad precedent, I says, eh.
 
2013-06-28 08:20:27 PM  

Bravo Two: utah dude: Farktastic: utah dude: uh... how would they find them? (if they're raiding houses and what-not? tear apart each and every person's closet? please explain this.

The RCMP entered every home to ensure that the evacuation is done.  High River (the town in question) is basically the town where urban rednecks go to live.  There is a huge amount of 4x4ing, horse riding, Git 'er Dun, shoot 'em up yokels that live there.  Guns are everywhere, like hanging on living room walls, sitting in garages, etc.  I am surprised that some guns might have actually been stored properly.

farktastic, fantastic explanation. thank you.

my have chamber locks and are too oiled up to even barely shoot, would probably not even rust underwater.

Excuse me, but you say redneck and git r done like its a bad thing to be. I'm a redneck, ride and keep horses, 4x4, and enjoy nature. I'm also college educated and don't fark my kinfolk. Kindly keep your bigotry to yourself, some of us find it farking offensive.


Good for you, I'm an outdoorsman too.  I described the "flavour" of the town and don't believe I judged anyone by reporting any other distasteful behaviors other than improperly storing weapons.  If you like leaving weapons lying around your house so much that the cops need to take them for safe keeping during an evacuation, I will be sure to lump you in with the rest of the idiots who would do this.

/respect your tools
 
2013-06-28 08:26:01 PM  

give me doughnuts: mike_the_engineer: If you want to steal my guns, you better bring a forklift.

[www.movingsimplified.com image 561x999]


I wonder how many people who have one of those picked 1-7-7-6 as the combination?


The name is what struck me. "Warrior" indeed...
 
2013-06-28 08:29:18 PM  

Larmer: This is a non-story, at this point.  As soon as the RCMP refuse to return the firearms, then there's an issue.

They were legally authorized to enter private homes during the state of emergency, and from the sounds of it, only took firearms that were unsafely stored (ie in the open, no trigger lock).  That is the smart and responsible thing to do, and if anything we should be ticked off at the idiots who don't safely store their guns; they make the rest of us look bad.

/owns lots of guns
//guns, guns, guns
///love me some guns...


Exactly. But the derp from the "I need mah assaul rifles to protect me from modern day super predators" retards is pretty funny.
 
2013-06-28 08:30:47 PM  

Voiceofreason01: If they had their guns locked in a safe then the mounties wouldn't have been able to take them would they?


Wont somebody think of the mounties?!
 
2013-06-28 08:31:14 PM  

Bravo Two: utah dude: Farktastic: utah dude: uh... how would they find them? (if they're raiding houses and what-not? tear apart each and every person's closet? please explain this.

The RCMP entered every home to ensure that the evacuation is done.  High River (the town in question) is basically the town where urban rednecks go to live.  There is a huge amount of 4x4ing, horse riding, Git 'er Dun, shoot 'em up yokels that live there.  Guns are everywhere, like hanging on living room walls, sitting in garages, etc.  I am surprised that some guns might have actually been stored properly.

farktastic, fantastic explanation. thank you.

my have chamber locks and are too oiled up to even barely shoot, would probably not even rust underwater.

Excuse me, but you say redneck and git r done like its a bad thing to be. I'm a redneck, ride and keep horses, 4x4, and enjoy nature. I'm also college educated and don't fark my kinfolk. Kindly keep your bigotry to yourself, some of us find it farking offensive.


Settle down Cletus.
 
2013-06-28 08:32:49 PM  

YoOjo: Why are they not allowing them to go to their houses? Are there water-zombies in the area? Water-aliens? Water-SARS? What's the conspiracy? There must be one.


My guess would be that if those people become trapped or get into some other dangerous situation as a result of being in a flooded area, then emergency services would be obligated to rescue them, putting them at unnecessary risk and diverting those resources from other places where they're truly needed. It's the same reason that they sometimes forbid people from being out on the roads during particularly bad storms.
 
2013-06-28 08:35:57 PM  

sno man: LisaNeedsBraces: sno man: Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.

No, no it's not, but do keep chocking that chicken.

Mmmm-hmmm.  I trust you speak from experience?  A friend of mine was charged & then the charges were dropped once they found out the wife was lying about abuse.  My friend's gun collection was confiscated.  Though innocent & he owned the guns legally, the cops did not return them.  This happened in Edmonton, AB.

I suspect your friend is leaving out a detail or two, but if not he should file a complaint and get a lawyer to write a letter.


Yeah I really find that hard to believe in Western Canada.  Even if it did happen the mere threat of a lawsuit would likely result in his guns being returned.

FormlessOne: Maul555: Wow... WTF Canada, WTF...

Huh? "Oh noes! The cops entered my flooded house, took my improperly secured weapon, noted the address from whence it came, and will hold it for me, high and dry, until I come back and ask for it! IT'S MADNESS! MADNESS!"

Sheesh. The article clearly states that the RCMP inventoried them, secured them, and will be happy to give them back once citizens can return to their homes. Bloody 'ell, what is wrong with you folks?


Cut them some slack, if they didn't have something to be outraged about they might have to go out and actually learn about the real world..
 
2013-06-28 08:36:35 PM  

ongbok: Mock26: jso2897: Another bullshiat, distorted victim myth from deluded gun-fappers.
They'll give your stupid guns back, after they have SECURED THEM FROM LOOTERS, you chuckleheaded morons.
Why are the people who biatch and cry about government the loudest always the inbreds who would survive about fifteen seconds without it?

If that actually happens (they give the guns back) then that is great and all that.  But it still does not excuse their blatant disregard of the law where they entered the homes without a warrant (and I am pretty sure that in Canada they do need a warrant to enter someone's home in a situation like this.

Also, ask those residents in New Orleans how great it was when a lot of the guns that were secured from looters were never returned.

Posted earlier


Each province has their own act, but http://www.qp.alberta.ca/documents/Acts/E06P8.pdf <-- that, applies to Alberta.  Section 19(1)(h) is the relevant part:

"authorize the entry into any building or on any land,
without warrant, by any person in the course of implementing an emergency plan or program;


But does that include seizure of property?
 
2013-06-28 08:38:25 PM  
Noctusxx:
And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.


If there's a registry, you dumb bag of feathers, then the government KNOWS it's your gun.  Sheesh.  Americans.
 
2013-06-28 08:38:49 PM  
Who the heck evaluates and doesn't bring their guns? How little time did they have?
 
2013-06-28 08:39:03 PM  
What the Americans in this thread do not understand (other than Canada has different laws) is that if the RCMP had not gone door to door searching for trapped victims and there was one (or some "I aint leaven my propertah" kinda guy).  It would be a major scandal there would be hearings and special investigations and public meetings, all trying to figure out why the RCMP let that person die when all they had to do was look.

It is the same thing with securing the guns, if they left them and even one was stolen and then used in a crime it would cause a huge uproar and the RCMP would be blamed for leaving those weapons unsecured.  Canada is a very different place and we look at things very differently.  The RCMP did probably the best thing in a very bad situation.

Of course those 4 lying murders from the YVR detachment should be tossed in jail, but unfortunately one thing we dont differ on is holding the criminal cops accountable.
 
2013-06-28 08:40:09 PM  

mtbhucker: Except there is no gun registration in Canada.  The bill got struck down


Um, only the long gun registry was repealed.  Also, "struck down" has different connotations than "repealed," which is more accurate in this case.
 
2013-06-28 08:43:50 PM  

big pig peaches: Who the heck evaluates and doesn't bring their guns? How little time did they have?


You need a permit to carry a weapon from one place to another.

The use of a federal police force to enter people's homes and seize weapons that may not be there, may not be stored correctly and probably won't be used to commit a crime because the houses are within a secure area controlled by that same police force is farcical. Paulson's going to get his ass kicked.
 
2013-06-28 08:45:33 PM  

super_grass: Ricardo Klement: jaytkay: LOL Gun "rights" advocates are calm, rational people LOL


"AH NEED MAH GUNZ TO FIGHT THE FLOODWATERSS!!!11!"

I'm sure you'd be calm and rational if the cops came and took your Beanie Baby collection.

Yes, but you can't kill 20 kids with beanie babies.

intellectual checkmate, gun nutz


Give me a gallon of gasoline and a couple of bike locks, and I'll give you 20 and then some.
 
2013-06-28 08:45:45 PM  
The Guess Who
"Guns, Guns, Guns"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHjyYmH6pvQ
 
2013-06-28 08:46:41 PM  
sno man:
LisaNeedsBraces: sno man: Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.

No, no it's not, but do keep chocking that chicken.

Mmmm-hmmm.  I trust you speak from experience?  A friend of mine was charged & then the charges were dropped once they found out the wife was lying about abuse.  My friend's gun collection was confiscated.  Though innocent & he owned the guns legally, the cops did not return them.  This happened in Edmonton, AB.

I suspect your friend is leaving out a detail or two, but if not he should file a complaint and get a lawyer to write a letter.


I suspect he pulled the whole anecdote out of his ass piecemeal, but hey, you might be right.
 
2013-06-28 08:50:30 PM  
Do you dumb chucklefarks not even realise they just moved the guns, which were left in empty properties, to a secure location to stop looters taking them, and are going to return them all to the owners?

Its common farking sense not confiscation.
 
2013-06-28 08:50:53 PM  

CokeBear: How dare they go around violating my 2nd amendment rights like that!

Wait, what's that? Oh Eh. Nevermind.


Fixed that for you
 
2013-06-28 08:51:36 PM  
"The guns will be returned to owners after residents are allowed back in town and they provide proof of ownership, Topham added."

And THERE is the problem," proof of ownership". They already know whose gins they are, since they knew which homes to enter. Proffered of your address should be enough, that's on your drivers license. Proof of ownership on guns can easy be ruined in a flooded home. I'd be posted too. Good thing ey registered them, because the government always swears that they won't use registration lists to seize your weapons.

And I just LOVE the "we only seized the guns cut we know they're expensive" line...
 
2013-06-28 08:52:04 PM  

mtbhucker: Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.

Except there is no gun registration in Canada.  The bill got struck down, and the RCMP have been throwing little fits ever since.  This would qualify as a big fit.


Just another of the many reasons why the rcmp should be liquidated entirely. All fired with no benefits of any kind.
and started again from the ground up.

institutionaly corrupt. Fark the whole lot of them. Im sure they have better things to be doing like beating people in handcuffs. And murdering people in airports.
 
2013-06-28 08:52:18 PM  

The Thoroughbred of Sin: What the Americans in this thread do not understand (other than Canada has different laws) is that if the RCMP had not gone door to door searching for trapped victims and there was one (or some "I aint leaven my propertah" kinda guy).  It would be a major scandal there would be hearings and special investigations and public meetings, all trying to figure out why the RCMP let that person die when all they had to do was look.

It is the same thing with securing the guns, if they left them and even one was stolen and then used in a crime it would cause a huge uproar and the RCMP would be blamed for leaving those weapons unsecured.  Canada is a very different place and we look at things very differently.  The RCMP did probably the best thing in a very bad situation.

Of course those 4 lying murders from the YVR detachment should be tossed in jail, but unfortunately one thing we dont differ on is holding the criminal cops accountable.


What you mentioned above would also happen in the U.S. And the same people screaming "Thar taking the guns!!!! Tyranny!!!!" Would be the ones screaming the loudest that the government didn't do their jobs if someone had died or was hurt as a result of the police not going door to door to make sure everyone was out of the evacuation zone or if it turned out that somebody looted an unsecured firearm and it turned up being used in a crime later.
 
2013-06-28 08:53:21 PM  

No Such Agency: sno man:
LisaNeedsBraces: sno man: Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.

No, no it's not, but do keep chocking that chicken.

Mmmm-hmmm.  I trust you speak from experience?  A friend of mine was charged & then the charges were dropped once they found out the wife was lying about abuse.  My friend's gun collection was confiscated.  Though innocent & he owned the guns legally, the cops did not return them.  This happened in Edmonton, AB.

I suspect your friend is leaving out a detail or two, but if not he should file a complaint and get a lawyer to write a letter.

I suspect he pulled the whole anecdote out of his ass piecemeal, but hey, you might be right.


I don't know anyone that it has happened to, but I've heard of it.  If I remember correctly the scenario in that particular case was the cops wouldn't/couldn't release the firearms without a court order, and the lawyer wasn't gun savvy so he didn't think to get one after the charges were dismissed.   So the owner then has to start another court action to get them back and given the lawyer costs it wasn't worth it in that case.  Cheaper to buy new guns.
 
2013-06-28 08:53:38 PM  

Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.


Murder weapons get removed from circulation?
 
2013-06-28 08:54:27 PM  

gaspode: Do you dumb chucklefarks not even realise they just moved the guns, which were left in empty properties, to a secure location to stop looters taking them, and are going to return them all to the owners?

Its common farking sense not confiscation.


Who was going to take then, beavers? The town was evacuated and the police are guarding the perimeter.
 
2013-06-28 09:03:10 PM  
fap, fap, fap
 
2013-06-28 09:03:35 PM  

ongbok: If they didn't do this and those guns were stolen by looters and started turning up at crime scenes, the same people that are screaming about them doing this would be screaming about them letting looters take them.


That excuse is getting really tired. "If the police didn't act, people would blame them for not acting" is pathetic speculation at best.  What people?

If the RCMP stood by AS people looted, or openly ignored reports of rampant looting, that's a problem regardless of what's stolen.
 
2013-06-28 09:06:29 PM  

YouSirAreAMaroon: gaspode: Do you dumb chucklefarks not even realise they just moved the guns, which were left in empty properties, to a secure location to stop looters taking them, and are going to return them all to the owners?

Its common farking sense not confiscation.

Who was going to take then, beavers? The town was evacuated and the police are guarding the perimeter.


It's not exactly difficult to get into High River for someone who is from the area and is a miscreant. Also, 300 or so people were known to have defied the evacuation order, 40 or so of whom needed to be rescued afterwards. And I'd be willing to put money on some of the idiots who live there and like to harass tourists (was there a few years ago for a family reunion, stayed in a campground and each night we were there someone was on the phone with the cops about idiot teenagers trying to steal things from the campground) at least trying to stay behind to loot from the houses they knew had the best stuff.

/Would also be willing to put money on the cops personally escorting some of those idiots out of town, as the cops knew who the kids were simply based on a description like "Short dark hair. Big leather jacket - not long, just looks like it's full of football padding." and "Girl wearing really tight clothing and cowboy boots."
//Well.. maybe not THAT much money, as said idiots were seen several nights in a row, so whatever the cops did was useless.
 
2013-06-28 09:07:19 PM  
THEY DID NOT GO TO HOUSES LOOKING FOR GUNS.
THEY DID NOT USE THE GUN REGISTRY TO LOOK FOR HOUSES WITH GUNS TO GO TO.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/story/2013/06/28/pol-pmo-guns-albert a. html

"When RCMP officers were going door-to-door searching each residence for potential victims, we did come across a couple of residences where there were some firearms that were left insecure," Cpl. Darrin Turnbull told CBC News in an interview.
"In those situations, when they were out in plain view and they were not properly secured and stored, those firearms were taken by the RCMP member and safely secured in the High River detachment."

Chicken, keep farking etc.
 
2013-06-28 09:07:41 PM  
I want to know how many cop haters also happen to be gun control fans.  There is an awful lot of both on fark.
 
2013-06-28 09:08:36 PM  

pedrop357: ongbok: If they didn't do this and those guns were stolen by looters and started turning up at crime scenes, the same people that are screaming about them doing this would be screaming about them letting looters take them.

That excuse is getting really tired. "If the police didn't act, people would blame them for not acting" is pathetic speculation at best.  What people?

If the RCMP stood by AS people looted, or openly ignored reports of rampant looting, that's a problem regardless of what's stolen.


It's not an excuse because it is a reality. They would be blamed.

And realistically they aren't going to be able to stop all looting even if they seal of the town. People will find a way to breach the perimeter. So with that being said if there are deadly items left out unsecured they have to take steps to secure them.
 
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