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(National Post)   RCMP: Sorry about the floods. No, you can't go back to your homes. Oh yeah, we raided your houses and took your guns. Have a nice day, eh   (news.nationalpost.com) divider line 282
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2013-06-28 05:36:00 PM
Where are the horses?
 
2013-06-28 06:13:17 PM
And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.
 
2013-06-28 06:14:42 PM
The RCMP later stated that the weapons were needed for a firing squad (La GRC a déclaré plus tard que les armes étaient nécessaires pour un peloton d'exécution):
blogs.btedmonton.ca

/Obama Harper's gonna take away your guns!
//Obama Harper va enlever vos armes!
///might as well be bilingual for a Canada story...
 
2013-06-28 06:36:01 PM

Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.


No, no it's not, but do keep chocking that chicken.
 
2013-06-28 06:38:11 PM
This is why you don't register your underground bunker.
 
2013-06-28 06:38:26 PM
We need a photoshop of Lootie with a bucket full of rifles to put this story in perspective. I got stuck watching "Sons of Guns" last night and it showed how they had a staff member sleep in the building during a hurricane to protect them from looters.
 
2013-06-28 06:45:27 PM
In before misplaced 2nd amendment post/troll.
 
2013-06-28 06:45:56 PM
Residents not being allowed back in and weapons have been confiscated? Sounds like the beginning of a apocalypse-style movie.
 
2013-06-28 06:47:07 PM
So instead, these people would prefer their firearms be in the hands of looters?
 
2013-06-28 06:47:53 PM

Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.


This
 
2013-06-28 06:49:18 PM
Why are they not allowing them to go to their houses? Are there water-zombies in the area? Water-aliens? Water-SARS? What's the conspiracy? There must be one.
 
2013-06-28 06:49:43 PM

Noctusxx: And this is what happens when people pass Gun Registration Laws.

Nothing to see here Citizen, If you happen to find your proof of ownership in the flooded wreck of your home you might get your property back.....If we feel the gun is ok for you to own.


Except there is no gun registration in Canada.  The bill got struck down, and the RCMP have been throwing little fits ever since.  This would qualify as a big fit.
 
2013-06-28 06:50:35 PM
I can't help but think that if the guns were properly stored and locked up, people couldn't just take them.

But maybe the towns people have a point. Maybe guns should just be left lying around after a major disaster. That's a great idea.
 
2013-06-28 06:50:40 PM
I'd be pissed as Hell if I came home after a flood and found out the government/police had gone into my house without my consent. I'd be even pissed-er if they took some of my stuff. I'd be a-suing if the stuff they took was firearms. But I'm an American, and I really have no idea how they do things in the Great White North. Sounds like a clusterfark, though.
 
2013-06-28 06:52:17 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: I'd be pissed as Hell if I came home after a flood and found out the government/police had gone into my house without my consent. I'd be even pissed-er if they took some of my stuff. I'd be a-suing if the stuff they took was firearms. But I'm an American, and I really have no idea how they do things in the Great White North. Sounds like a clusterfark, though.


They did it in NOLA before Canada. People there had to sue, and many of them never received their firearms back.

And people wonder why we should just trust the government.
 
2013-06-28 06:52:20 PM
Canadians have guns?
 
2013-06-28 06:53:08 PM

foo monkey: Canadians have guns?


Even handguns.
 
2013-06-28 06:53:08 PM
"We are from the government, we are here to help"
 
2013-06-28 06:53:18 PM

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: In before misplaced 2nd amendment post/troll.


Check the TFA. Much like the Yukon, the Canadians beat ya to it.
 
2013-06-28 06:54:19 PM
RCMP looting homes you say? Seem to remember something about the Okanagan fire west of Kelowna BC where people had electronics stolen during the RCMP lockdown of neighborhoods.
Of course they did blame it on kids with noisy dirtbikes driving through the fire to steal stuff. Good enuf excuse to the morons.

/The Canadian gun registry is/was/still a violation of the Charter[Constitution].
//Register your gun and automatically lose your Right to not be searched without evidence of criminal activity.
///Knock Knock. Who's there? Police. Police who? Police who are coming in to search without warrants, since you registered your gun and we will beat you if you try to deny us.
 
2013-06-28 06:54:28 PM

foo monkey: Canadians have guns?


From a Vancouver, BC gun store's website:

www.reliablegun.com

You'll notice they even have *Gasp* assault rifles in Canada!
 
2013-06-28 06:55:04 PM

foo monkey: Canadians have guns?


Those moose ain't gonna shoot themselves...
 
2013-06-28 06:55:13 PM

YoOjo: Why are they not allowing them to go to their houses? Are there water-zombies in the area? Water-aliens? Water-SARS? What's the conspiracy? There must be one.


They're just using Candians for practice, before they come to the USA and TAKE ALL THE GUNS AWAY

Bwahahahahahaha.
 
2013-06-28 06:55:20 PM

ModernLuddite: I can't help but think that if the guns were properly stored and locked up, people couldn't just take them.

But maybe the towns people have a point. Maybe guns should just be left lying around after a major disaster. That's a great idea.


They were in houses.

Hey what if this, what if the stupid RCMP did their jobs and arrested LOOTERS instead of stealing LOOT themselves. "Do not worry citizen, we took your TV, guns and car, so that looters couldn't! Now for the good news citizen, if you can produce evidence of ownership of the mentioned items you can have them back!'

Police, a gang like any other.
 
2013-06-28 06:55:25 PM
Well it depends.  If I could walk into the RCMP station and get my property immediately I would thank them for holding on to it and keeping it safe. If I could not do so I would lawyer up.
 
2013-06-28 06:55:36 PM
How the fark are you supposed to provide proof of ownership of stuff like that?  I mean, maybe if you just bought the thing and can electronically get proof from your credit card, but other than that you are basically farked if they take a hard line on returning them.

How the hell could I prove I own by grandfathers shotgun... oh, I know IT WAS IN MY farkING HOUSE.
 
2013-06-28 06:56:03 PM
Did they tale their beers too? Eh?
 
2013-06-28 06:56:47 PM
The long gun registry was ordered destroyed over a year ago. The RCMP shouldn't even know where long guns are. The article doesn't say if it's long guns or handguns (where they must be registered with all the appropriate permits filed). I'm assuming it's long guns and they're using information that isn't even supposed to exist!
 
2013-06-28 06:57:05 PM
uh... how would they find them? (if they're raiding houses and what-not? tear apart each and every person's closet? please explain this.
 
2013-06-28 06:57:57 PM

Fizpez: How the fark are you supposed to provide proof of ownership of stuff like that?  I mean, maybe if you just bought the thing and can electronically get proof from your credit card, but other than that you are basically farked if they take a hard line on returning them.

How the hell could I prove I own by grandfathers shotgun... oh, I know IT WAS IN MY farkING HOUSE.


You could register it.

...Oh. Little double edged sword, huh?
 
2013-06-28 06:58:41 PM

doglover: Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: In before misplaced 2nd amendment post/troll.

Check the TFA. Much like the Yukon, the Canadians beat ya to it.


Who reads the article around here?
 
2013-06-28 06:58:43 PM
This is a non-story, at this point.  As soon as the RCMP refuse to return the firearms, then there's an issue.

They were legally authorized to enter private homes during the state of emergency, and from the sounds of it, only took firearms that were unsafely stored (ie in the open, no trigger lock).  That is the smart and responsible thing to do, and if anything we should be ticked off at the idiots who don't safely store their guns; they make the rest of us look bad.

/owns lots of guns
//guns, guns, guns
///love me some guns...
 
2013-06-28 06:58:56 PM

YoOjo: Why are they not allowing them to go to their houses? Are there water-zombies in the area? Water-aliens? Water-SARS? What's the conspiracy? There must be one.


I'm not saying it is Water-aliens.....  but....
 
2013-06-28 06:59:51 PM

Pichu0102: Fizpez: How the fark are you supposed to provide proof of ownership of stuff like that?  I mean, maybe if you just bought the thing and can electronically get proof from your credit card, but other than that you are basically farked if they take a hard line on returning them.

How the hell could I prove I own by grandfathers shotgun... oh, I know IT WAS IN MY farkING HOUSE.

You could register it.

...Oh. Little double edged sword, huh?


There is no registry.
 
2013-06-28 06:59:56 PM
They apparently forced their way in (otherwise how did they get in at all?).  Want to bet they didn't have a 100% record on the "guess if this house has a gun we need to seize" game?  So, how pissed would you be if they broke into your home for no reason, looking for a gun that doesn't exist?  Or broke in and found a gun that was properly stored and safe from reasonably equipped looters?
 
2013-06-28 07:00:10 PM

atomicmask: ModernLuddite: I can't help but think that if the guns were properly stored and locked up, people couldn't just take them.

But maybe the towns people have a point. Maybe guns should just be left lying around after a major disaster. That's a great idea.

They were in houses.

Hey what if this, what if the stupid RCMP did their jobs and arrested LOOTERS instead of stealing LOOT themselves. "Do not worry citizen, we took your TV, guns and car, so that looters couldn't! Now for the good news citizen, if you can produce evidence of ownership of the mentioned items you can have them back!'

Police, a gang like any other.


I'm just glad that Canadians don't worship guns like Americans do. 

//Also, fark the RCMP. Immigrant-murdering, useless sacks of excrement.
 
2013-06-28 07:00:20 PM

foo monkey: Canadians have guns?


They used to.
 
2013-06-28 07:00:37 PM

Fizpez: How the fark are you supposed to provide proof of ownership of stuff like that?  I mean, maybe if you just bought the thing and can electronically get proof from your credit card, but other than that you are basically farked if they take a hard line on returning them.

How the hell could I prove I own by grandfathers shotgun... oh, I know IT WAS IN MY farkING HOUSE.


They have them cataloged by house. Proof of address would do the trick. I don't really agree with the methods, but lets not blow it out of proportion here.
 
2013-06-28 07:00:39 PM
Silly Canadians. When told to evacuate, your guns are at the top of the list of things you grab, right behind your family, pets, mementos, and medicines.  If I have 5 minutes to evacuate, most of the guns stay.  If I have 30 minutes or more, the guns are coming with me.
 
2013-06-28 07:00:46 PM
So, theft.
 
2013-06-28 07:01:06 PM

Larmer: This is a non-story, at this point.  As soon as the RCMP refuse to return the firearms, then there's an issue.

They were legally authorized to enter private homes during the state of emergency, and from the sounds of it, only took firearms that were unsafely stored (ie in the open, no trigger lock).  That is the smart and responsible thing to do, and if anything we should be ticked off at the idiots who don't safely store their guns; they make the rest of us look bad.

/owns lots of guns
//guns, guns, guns
///love me some guns...


This.

If they didn't do this and those guns were stolen by looters and started turning up at crime scenes, the same people that are screaming about them doing this would be screaming about them letting looters take them.
 
2013-06-28 07:01:15 PM

Larmer: This is a non-story, at this point.  As soon as the RCMP refuse to return the firearms, then there's an issue.

They were legally authorized to enter private homes during the state of emergency, and from the sounds of it, only took firearms that were unsafely stored (ie in the open, no trigger lock).  That is the smart and responsible thing to do, and if anything we should be ticked off at the idiots who don't safely store their guns; they make the rest of us look bad.

/owns lots of guns
//guns, guns, guns
///love me some guns...


I'm not familiar with Canadian law, but here in the US police are not allowed to enter private dwellings during a state of emergency.

I assume it works the same way in Canada. This is more than a non issue. It's a HUGE issue.
 
2013-06-28 07:01:44 PM
"So instead, these people would prefer their firearms be in the hands of looters?"

How certain are you that they're not?

/double entendre
 
2013-06-28 07:01:45 PM

mtbhucker: Except there is no gun registration in Canada.


The guns may not be registered, but there's still a list of every person who has a license to own them.
 
2013-06-28 07:01:54 PM

YoOjo: Why are they not allowing them to go to their houses? Are there water-zombies in the area? Water-aliens? Water-SARS? What's the conspiracy? There must be one.


All that dampness makes it easy for mold and fungi to grow. If you've played The Last of Us, you know that this doesn't end well.
 
2013-06-28 07:02:00 PM

ModernLuddite: atomicmask: ModernLuddite: I can't help but think that if the guns were properly stored and locked up, people couldn't just take them.

But maybe the towns people have a point. Maybe guns should just be left lying around after a major disaster. That's a great idea.

They were in houses.

Hey what if this, what if the stupid RCMP did their jobs and arrested LOOTERS instead of stealing LOOT themselves. "Do not worry citizen, we took your TV, guns and car, so that looters couldn't! Now for the good news citizen, if you can produce evidence of ownership of the mentioned items you can have them back!'

Police, a gang like any other.

I'm just glad that Canadians don't worship guns like Americans do. 

//Also, fark the RCMP. Immigrant-murdering, useless sacks of excrement.


Oh, I've known quite a few very pro-gun Canadians. Also, known quite a few pro-gun Englishmen and Frenchmen.

Or did you conflate "enjoy the right to own and enjoy engaging in safe, sporting activities with their firearms" with "Worship"?
 
2013-06-28 07:02:36 PM

Rabid Badger Beaver Weasel: In before misplaced 2nd amendment post/troll.


I'm in favor of reasonable gun control, but anybody who is sincere about the issue has to see this scenario as a particularly good argument against it.
 
2013-06-28 07:03:18 PM
Wow... WTF Canada, WTF...
 
2013-06-28 07:03:39 PM
Have a nice day, eh?

It's "Have a good day", subby. "Have a good day".

/eh?
 
2013-06-28 07:03:48 PM

joness0154: Larmer: This is a non-story, at this point.  As soon as the RCMP refuse to return the firearms, then there's an issue.

They were legally authorized to enter private homes during the state of emergency, and from the sounds of it, only took firearms that were unsafely stored (ie in the open, no trigger lock).  That is the smart and responsible thing to do, and if anything we should be ticked off at the idiots who don't safely store their guns; they make the rest of us look bad.

/owns lots of guns
//guns, guns, guns
///love me some guns...

I'm not familiar with Canadian law, but here in the US police are not allowed to enter private dwellings during a state of emergency.

I assume it works the same way in Canada. This is more than a non issue. It's a HUGE issue.


They are. How do you think they find out if any one is dead or needs help inside of a home during an emergency?
 
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