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(Slate)   Could you pass the 1964 Louisiana voter literacy test? Could you even pass the first question?   (slate.com) divider line 225
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2013-06-28 05:32:31 PM  
Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
2013-06-28 05:48:52 PM  
I think I would fail because I can't write that fast.
 
2013-06-28 05:48:58 PM  
I passed. Got a 65.
 
2013-06-28 05:49:20 PM  
WTF?  What am I reading here?
 
2013-06-28 05:51:22 PM  
"...  a single wrong answer meant a failing grade. "  Major fail right there.
 
2013-06-28 05:52:42 PM  

JerseyTim: I passed. Got a 65.


FTA: a single wrong answer meant a failing grade.
 
2013-06-28 05:54:08 PM  
The only winning move is not to play.
 
2013-06-28 05:54:47 PM  
The "single wrong answer" criteria would probably have gotten a lot of people who just brain-farted on something.
 
2013-06-28 05:54:59 PM  
Oh yah, that wasn't racist. What the fark?
 
2013-06-28 05:55:09 PM  

JerseyTim: I passed. Got a 65.


Where is the answer key so I can see how smart or how farked I would be.
 
2013-06-28 05:55:58 PM  
Yes. Then again, I'm white.
 
2013-06-28 05:57:27 PM  
I failed on Q10.  Could somebody please restore my voting rights?

So this was test was required only for people who hadn't progressed beyond fifth grade?

I guess they had a target audience.  Sickening.
 
2013-06-28 05:58:03 PM  
That sucks as a voter literacy test but it isn't that hard. It's like one of those critical thinking exercises you got in school.
 
2013-06-28 05:58:06 PM  

Intrepid00: JerseyTim: I passed. Got a 65.

Where is the answer key so I can see how smart or how farked I would be.


Are you white, and can you tell the difference between a rooster symbol, a donkey symbol and an elephant symbol?

If so, congratulations, you've passed.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 05:58:15 PM  
Some of those seemed like a written version of a sobriety test, not a literacy test.

"Say the alphabet backwards."

"Z... A... Officer, I can't do this sober."
 
2013-06-28 05:58:55 PM  

NotoriousW.O.P: Yes. Then again, I'm white.


Ooooh, I get it now. They don't grade them by looking at your answers.
 
2013-06-28 05:59:14 PM  
It's not that difficult, but I do logic puzzles for fun.
 
2013-06-28 05:59:21 PM  
I don't know I kind of like this idea. Maybe would could cut out some of these no talent ass clowns that keep getting reelected, because they promise "free" stuff.
 
2013-06-28 05:59:52 PM  

ZAZ: Some of those seemed like a written version of a sobriety test, not a literacy test.

"Say the alphabet backwards."

"Z... A... Officer, I can't do this sober."


I've memorized the ZYX's. I can rattle them off with a BAC in excess of .10
 
2013-06-28 05:59:58 PM  

JerseyTim: I passed. Got a 65.


FTA: single wrong answer meant a failing grade
 
2013-06-28 06:00:59 PM  
FARK Quiz for next week?
 
2013-06-28 06:01:20 PM  
Clearly the answer is to give the government more power, rather than less, over our daily personal and commercial activities.
 
2013-06-28 06:02:18 PM  
As illustrated by the last election, nobody should be allowed to vote unless they are 35 or in the military.
 
2013-06-28 06:02:53 PM  
1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.

I assume this one is supposed to make you run out the clock, while you scratch your head, saying WTF.
 
2013-06-28 06:02:54 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: That sucks as a voter literacy test but it isn't that hard. It's like one of those critical thinking exercises you got in school.


You have to do all of that, in 10 minutes, with no mistakes and under pressure.  There's a decent amount of questions there, they're worded awkwardly at best and the end looks super tedious.  There's no way the pass rate would be even 50%, especially if the test giver doesn't want you to pass.
 
2013-06-28 06:04:18 PM  
One thing that had me wondering on this test is that it sometimes says draw a line around and sometimes says draw a circle around. What is the difference between the two and if there is no difference why state it two different ways? Then I read this in the article and it cleared that up for me.

The (white) registrar would be the ultimate judge of whether an answer was correct.

I guess in the questions that asked to draw a line around something he would determine if drawing a circle around it, or something else, was the correct response.
 
2013-06-28 06:04:54 PM  
Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.

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2013-06-28 06:05:10 PM  
FTFA: "Draw five circles that one common inter-locking part."

Bzzt. Sorry, Mr. Test Author, but you fail the test and are not allowed to vote. You missed a word between "that" and "one", and interlocking is not hyphenated.

/Now fark off, you illerate, racist Farkhole
 
2013-06-28 06:05:24 PM  
My brain hurts
 
2013-06-28 06:06:47 PM  
I'm a little annoyed with this particular post, history under Rebecca Onion being one of the very few things  Slate has done competently lately. And, in fact, until now, it's been GREAT.

But the  Slate post links to a page on the Civil Rights Movement Veteran webpage which contains  this page which in turn contains two links. One, marked "circa 1964?" is the one shown in the article. Here's what it looks like:

s18.postimg.org

The other link is marked "circa 1963" (note, no "?") and looks like this:

s22.postimg.org

Notice how one looks like it was typed or printed in 1963, and the other looks like it came off a mid-1990s word processor?

Now, literacy tests existed. Tests about the Constitution, etc., existed. And they were used in exactly the way you'd think--there's no controversy about that whatsoever. But it's entirely possible that the thing shown in this  Slate article isn't even a transcription of a real document--it smells a bit wrong, and (argument from authority alert) I'm a twentieth-century American historian. It's almost too cute, and the white registrar turning black voters away from the polls in 1964 Louisiana didn't need to be cute.

So, this is dangerous--because if this one fishy document gets debunked, all of a sudden the AM radio dial is going to light up with people talking about how  blacks never had any trouble voting AT ALL, and the VRA was just those damn liberals trying to mess with honest folks' constitutional rights, etc. etc.
 
2013-06-28 06:07:04 PM  
I farking hate racists.
 
2013-06-28 06:07:28 PM  
Question #30: What is this I don't even.
 
2013-06-28 06:07:50 PM  
One way that test could be worse would be if in the last instruction said "Now that you've read through all of the questions, do not answer any of the questions on this test, fold up the paper and hand it to the official."
 
2013-06-28 06:08:23 PM  

ongbok: I guess in the questions that asked to draw a line around something he would determine if drawing a circle around it, or something else, that whatever the prospective voter didn't do was the correct response.


FTFY.
 
2013-06-28 06:09:18 PM  
Oh please, most people on Fark don't even read linked articles, much less possess the reading comprehension to pass a test.
 
2013-06-28 06:09:32 PM  

netweavr: The "single wrong answer" criteria would probably have gotten a lot of people who just brain-farted on something.


You're starting to understand.  The person grading might miss an error by a white voter while making sure to find any technical error by a black voter.  It's not the test, it's the grader.
 
2013-06-28 06:09:39 PM  

semiotix: It's almost too cute, and the white registrar turning black voters away from the polls in 1964 Louisiana didn't need to be cute.


That was my impression as well.

But it is an adorable little test, isn't it?  I'm enjoying taking it.
 
2013-06-28 06:09:47 PM  
I failed #6. If there are three circles, using 'The other' implies but two circles.
 
2013-06-28 06:12:37 PM  

Paris1127: One way that test could be worse would be if in the last instruction said "Now that you've read through all of the questions, do not answer any of the questions on this test, fold up the paper and hand it to the official."


Snap, Mr. Lewis. Ohh snap.
 
2013-06-28 06:12:38 PM  

thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
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Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.
 
2013-06-28 06:13:23 PM  

semiotix: I'm a little annoyed with this particular post, history under Rebecca Onion being one of the very few things  Slate has done competently lately. And, in fact, until now, it's been GREAT.

But the  Slate post links to a page on the Civil Rights Movement Veteran webpage which contains  this page which in turn contains two links. One, marked "circa 1964?" is the one shown in the article. Here's what it looks like:

[s18.postimg.org image 488x365]

The other link is marked "circa 1963" (note, no "?") and looks like this:

[s22.postimg.org image 386x359]

Notice how one looks like it was typed or printed in 1963, and the other looks like it came off a mid-1990s word processor?

Now, literacy tests existed. Tests about the Constitution, etc., existed. And they were used in exactly the way you'd think--there's no controversy about that whatsoever. But it's entirely possible that the thing shown in this  Slate article isn't even a transcription of a real document--it smells a bit wrong, and (argument from authority alert) I'm a twentieth-century American historian. It's almost too cute, and the white registrar turning black voters away from the polls in 1964 Louisiana didn't need to be cute.

So, this is dangerous--because if this one fishy document gets debunked, all of a sudden the AM radio dial is going to light up with people talking about how  blacks never had any trouble voting AT ALL, and the VRA was just those damn liberals trying to mess with honest folks' constitutional rights, etc. etc.


Not saying it proves it to be real, but two seconds on Google finds the exact same document in print as a real test in "Gateways to Democracy: An Introduction to American Government , 2nd ed.", published byCengage Learning:

http://bit.ly/13cPgmN

That makes it a bit more believable than a random blog.
 
2013-06-28 06:13:28 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.


Look at you being all relevant. How cute. Isn't he cute, everybody?
 
2013-06-28 06:14:32 PM  

12349876: JerseyTim: I passed. Got a 65.

FTA: a single wrong answer meant a failing grade.


A 65 is normally passing either unless your school was shiat.
 
2013-06-28 06:15:22 PM  
31. Draw a line under Principal Caught sayof school that has stoped Standandizedtest.
32. Circle the word before successful Hispanic kids Is He lying or not.
33. Draw a square, then write whether ACLU says yes, Star-Telegram Looking for chads -OR- "hello, I am kids not responsible and wait for again".
 
2013-06-28 06:15:30 PM  
I strongly suspect that the correct answer is "Nigra Nigra Nigra!!!"
 
2013-06-28 06:16:19 PM  

Intrepid00: 12349876: JerseyTim: I passed. Got a 65.

FTA: a single wrong answer meant a failing grade.

A 65 is normally passing either unless your school was shiat.


Isn't, oh god I can't vote now.
 
2013-06-28 06:16:21 PM  

Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
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Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.


Drama and butthurt is the entire point of Fark.

You do everything you can to belittle or harass others, but not to the point where you get b&.
 
2013-06-28 06:17:11 PM  

Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x394]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x186]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x390]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x543]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x390]

Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.


This.  If you're going to do that, at least just link to them.  There's a reason I have him on ignore, I don't care what he has to say.  I certainly don't want a confusing threadshiat of his past idiocy that I have to scroll past.

/ at the very least, quote him so your post will get ignored as well
 
2013-06-28 06:17:30 PM  

Spanky McStupid: "...  a single wrong answer meant a failing grade. "  Major fail right there.


Yeah.  The test is mostly just a matter of whether you can understand English and as such is a reasonable test in areas lacking substantial foreign language communities.  If you don't understand English how can you be an informed voter?  (These days, though--my wife would certainly fail this test but she reads multiple newspapers--just not in English.)

Failing the test for one wrong answer, though, is far too harsh.
 
2013-06-28 06:17:47 PM  
My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
2013-06-28 06:19:29 PM  
How does one "1.  draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence" when they ask you to "circle" something later on?  (examples #4 and #5 are good...)

If you circle the "1." you fail because you did not follow the directions, you drew a circle, not a line.
If you draw a line THROUGH it you fail because you were supposed to draw that line AROUND it.
If you draw a square around it, you fail because you drew a square, not a line.

/no voting for you no matter what you put down.
//repeat WarGames reference mentioned already
 
2013-06-28 06:19:33 PM  
How did these ever get ruled unconstitutional?

I propose a new test though.

Do you regularly post to Facebook, Twitter or the Politics tab on Fark?

If you answer no, you can vote.
 
2013-06-28 06:21:23 PM  
Literacy test?

I was told there'd be no math.
 
2013-06-28 06:21:39 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.


Relevance? Or do you just take any opportunity you can to take a swipe at people you think are beneath you?
 
2013-06-28 06:21:47 PM  

patentguy: netweavr: The "single wrong answer" criteria would probably have gotten a lot of people who just brain-farted on something.

You're starting to understand.  The person grading might miss an error by a white voter while making sure to find any technical error by a black voter.  It's not the test, it's the grader.


It's not just that, it's who takes the test.  In this situation, if you could prove you had a fifth grade education you didn't have to take it.  They probably found a way to make black schools not count or something like that.
 
2013-06-28 06:22:10 PM  
Also I still don't get number 1 for sure and I sure do love 21 that is completely unnatural to write.

I also ran our of time with 4 questions left. This was like taking the "idiot test" in grade school.
 
2013-06-28 06:22:16 PM  

NutWrench: 1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.

I assume this one is supposed to make you run out the clock, while you scratch your head, saying WTF.


Obviously, you're not from Louisiana. Neither am I, but I worked in Baton Rouge for a time.
This question makes perfect sense; it just needs to be translated. Google doesn't have a Bayou to English translator yet, but that shouldn't stop you. Stuff 8-10 marbles in your mouth, and then read the sentence aloud. "wawawineawouhahumbaoweddauhisentens."
As anyone who's ever spent time in Baton Rouge can tell you, that means, "circle the number 1 that's next to this sentence.
 
2013-06-28 06:23:10 PM  

Johnson: How does one "1.  draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence" when they ask you to "circle" something later on?  (examples #4 and #5 are good...)

If you circle the "1." you fail because you did not follow the directions, you drew a circle, not a line.
If you draw a line THROUGH it you fail because you were supposed to draw that line AROUND it.
If you draw a square around it, you fail because you drew a square, not a line.

/no voting for you no matter what you put down.
//repeat WarGames reference mentioned already


I consider myself rather intelligent but it was shiat like that which totally threw me off on this test.  There is NO WAY I could ever pass it.  Half of the questions do not even make sense!
How in the world could one draw a LINE AROUND something?  A LINE??  Unpossible!
 
2013-06-28 06:25:45 PM  

Johnson: How does one "1.  draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence" when they ask you to "circle" something later on?  (examples #4 and #5 are good...)

If you circle the "1." you fail because you did not follow the directions, you drew a circle, not a line.
If you draw a line THROUGH it you fail because you were supposed to draw that line AROUND it.
If you draw a square around it, you fail because you drew a square, not a line.

/no voting for you no matter what you put down.
//repeat WarGames reference mentioned already


This is the answer to your question
FTA

The (white) registrar would be the ultimate judge of whether an answer was correct.

My guess is that he would determine if circling something that called for you to draw a line around it was correct. And as somebody already said in response to my above post regarding the question, the registrar would determine that whatever the prospective voter didn't dowas the correct response.  Which I probably believe was more than likely the case.
 
2013-06-28 06:27:04 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.


1. No, I voted for Obama because Romney's a damn fool.

2. I didn't need a free phone from the government because I wanted a cooler one for myself, so I bought my own.

Now, a question for you: Do you think that sucking up to your rich Republican overlords will get you a blowjob from them?
 
2013-06-28 06:28:46 PM  

video man: ZAZ: Some of those seemed like a written version of a sobriety test, not a literacy test.

"Say the alphabet backwards."

"Z... A... Officer, I can't do this sober."

I've memorized the ZYX's. I can rattle them off with a BAC in excess of .10


ORLY?
 
2013-06-28 06:29:02 PM  

semiotix: I'm a little annoyed with this particular post, history under Rebecca Onion being one of the very few things  Slate has done competently lately. And, in fact, until now, it's been GREAT.

But the  Slate post links to a page on the Civil Rights Movement Veteran webpage which contains  this page which in turn contains two links. One, marked "circa 1964?" is the one shown in the article. Here's what it looks like:

[s18.postimg.org image 488x365]

The other link is marked "circa 1963" (note, no "?") and looks like this:

[s22.postimg.org image 386x359]

Notice how one looks like it was typed or printed in 1963, and the other looks like it came off a mid-1990s word processor?

Now, literacy tests existed. Tests about the Constitution, etc., existed. And they were used in exactly the way you'd think--there's no controversy about that whatsoever. But it's entirely possible that the thing shown in this  Slate article isn't even a transcription of a real document--it smells a bit wrong, and (argument from authority alert) I'm a twentieth-century American historian. It's almost too cute, and the white registrar turning black voters away from the polls in 1964 Louisiana didn't need to be cute.

So, this is dangerous--because if this one fishy document gets debunked, all of a sudden the AM radio dial is going to light up with people talking about how  blacks never had any trouble voting AT ALL, and the VRA was just those damn liberals trying to mess with honest folks' constitutional rights, etc. etc.


The one from 1963 appears to be typed on an IBM Selectric typewriter with the Italics ball.
 
2013-06-28 06:29:36 PM  

gweilo8888: Not saying it proves it to be real, but two seconds on Google finds the exact same document in print as a real test in "Gateways to Democracy: An Introduction to American Government , 2nd ed.", published byCengage Learning:

http://bit.ly/13cPgmN

That makes it a bit more believable than a random blog.


I'm prepared to believe it is real (or rather an accurate transcription of something real). Just because something is unbelievably weird/stupid/evil doesn't mean some historical actor wasn't doing it,  especially when it comes to this kind of thing. It still worries me that nobody has the original online, or (in the page or two of Google results I looked at) has an obvious citation to a primary source. But in any event it's minor historical malpractice to put something like that up without a comment on its authenticity.

Part of the issue here is that a lot of those relics of "massive resistance" ended up getting flushed right down the memory hole when the VRA passed, precisely because everyone concerned knew how they'd look. There are a lot more living memories of literacy or civics tests than there are surviving tests, which is the kind of "anomaly" that ______-deniers of any stripe love to scream about. ("There's not a single purchase order for Zyklon-B in this whole Nazi file cabinet! Your 'Holocaust' is invalid!")

So it looks like they made a choice between highlighting the more boring but totally legit one (a non-tricksy civics test that was simply impossible to pass unless you were literate and the right color) and the flashier but potentially dubious one.
 
2013-06-28 06:30:54 PM  

Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x394]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x186]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x390]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x543]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x390]

Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.


Or, just go for the shorter route...  Only repost the things from JWP that aren't idiotic.

Saves quite a lot of time.
 
2013-06-28 06:31:49 PM  
JAGChem82:

Now, a question for you: Do you think that sucking up to your rich Republican overlords will get you a blowjob from them?

69?
 
2013-06-28 06:31:57 PM  
20. Spell backwards, forwards.

Wtf is that asking for? I'm guessing it's either "backwards" or "sdrawrof", but I'm just not sure. It could also be "backwards, forwards".
 
2013-06-28 06:31:59 PM  
Score of 100 gets you arrested on vagrancy and leased into peonage before the election.
 
2013-06-28 06:32:08 PM  

Archimedes' Principal: Question #30: What is this I don't even.


#31. Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 
2013-06-28 06:32:33 PM  
Which answer is #20 even looking for? I'm guessing "backwards," but given the rest of the test's awkward grammar and wording, along with English's fluid word order, I don't  think I can rule out "sdrawrof"
 
2013-06-28 06:33:09 PM  

Dman33: Johnson: How does one "1.  draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence" when they ask you to "circle" something later on?  (examples #4 and #5 are good...)

If you circle the "1." you fail because you did not follow the directions, you drew a circle, not a line.
If you draw a line THROUGH it you fail because you were supposed to draw that line AROUND it.
If you draw a square around it, you fail because you drew a square, not a line.

/no voting for you no matter what you put down.
//repeat WarGames reference mentioned already

I consider myself rather intelligent but it was shiat like that which totally threw me off on this test.  There is NO WAY I could ever pass it.  Half of the questions do not even make sense!
How in the world could one draw a LINE AROUND something?  A LINE??  Unpossible!


You could draw a line on a manifold m, then embed the manifold in a manifold n of one higher dimension, and claim points of n on lines through n connecting distinct points on the image of the curve on m have a line drawn around them. It's what I would do.
 
2013-06-28 06:33:21 PM  
...to say nothing of how precise any circles you drew had to be...

/Sorry! That's ovoid! No vote for you!
 
2013-06-28 06:33:43 PM  
mithras_angel:

Or, just go for the shorter route...  Only repost the things from JWP that aren't idiotic.

Saves quite a lot of time.


Or just do like I did a long time ago and make him one of 3 troll assholes on permanent ignore.... So I don't have to see you idiots blathering about him all farking day long.
 
2013-06-28 06:34:03 PM  
No way you can do this in 10 minutes! 24 would take me a minute alone to think up words that look the same back and forth! RACECAR would probably disqualify me since it could be interpreted as two words.
 
2013-06-28 06:35:37 PM  
What's sad (or amusing, depending on how you feel about the efficacy of voting) is that most people don't bother voting in most elections anyway. Voter turnout for the 2012 primaries in most states was under 20% (per elections.gmu.edu). A few states (Montana, New Hampshire, N. Carolina) got a whopping 31% turnout and those were the highest turnout rates.

Turnout for other elections (statewide and local elections) is even more pathetic. People who hold public offices in most states are determined by, at best, 10% of the eligible voters. Guess who that 10% tends to be?

So we don't really need literacy tests and laws requiring picture ID to depress non-white voting. Non-whites (and many white people who aren't elderly and/or Jesusy) are taking themselves out of the process already. And then they biatch about old white people ruining it for the rest of us with stupid voting laws. The laws are stupid, but since most of them don't seem to be too interested in voting anyway, I have to wonder why the fark (other than self-interest) I should care if requirements become too "onerous" for them. They don't vote now.
 
2013-06-28 06:39:13 PM  

leonel: No way you can do this in 10 minutes! 24 would take me a minute alone to think up words that look the same back and forth! RACECAR would probably disqualify me since it could be interpreted as two words.


I think it's incorrect even if it were one word.  They're probably looking for stuff like MOM or TIT.  Pretty sure you can only use A, H, I, M, O, T, U, V, or W, the vertically symmetric letters, and it also has to be a palindrome.
 
2013-06-28 06:41:43 PM  
I actually think a test before being able to vote would be a great thing; but it shouldn't be designed to test someone's reading comprehension...it should be about the most basic issues that are relevant for whatever election is happening.  If you can't correctly identify 3/5 political stances of the person you are voting for....should you really be voting?

I firmly believe this push we have for 'everyone' to vote is the worst possible thing you could do.  It's not about race or education - I have a master's degree - but I don't follow politics.  I haven't studied political science or economics or law or anything else that might be important for our elected officials.  Oh sure - I want 'more jobs' and 'less taxes' and 'more freedom' and 'lower crime' - but so does everyone else.  Not only do I not have any idea on *how* to get those things, I don't follow politics enough to even summarize the issues, much less how different politicians stand on them.

I have no business voting.  So I don't.

But I have so many friends who are as clueless (or more so) - who don't just vote; but strongly identify with a political group and encourage others to vote.  Most often, you can identify someone like this from their Facebook wall.

Oh well - it'll never happen.
 
2013-06-28 06:41:48 PM  

bwilson27: mithras_angel:

Or, just go for the shorter route...  Only repost the things from JWP that aren't idiotic.

Saves quite a lot of time.

Or just do like I did a long time ago and make him one of 3 troll assholes on permanent ignore.... So I don't have to see you idiots blathering about him all farking day long.


I've only got one person on full ignore; I use a multi-stage process, where I flag them, and they get greater and greater shades of red.  Once they're past the last red, is when they go on full ignore.

Curiously enough, Tats has gotten down to pink levels lately.
 
2013-06-28 06:42:25 PM  
Smelly Pirate Hooker:

So we don't really need literacy tests and laws requiring picture ID to depress non-white voting.

If you lack the life skills to acquire a photo ID, we're all better off without your vote.
 
2013-06-28 06:43:15 PM  
Dman33:  How in the world could one draw a LINE AROUND something?  A LINE??  Unpossible!

It is quite simple:
Put your pencil point down at any spot around the selected object.
While applying light pressure, draw a line AROUND the object.
Lift pencil.

Apparently this is something that white folk can do easily.
Anyone else would draw a circle and be disqualified from voting.
 
2013-06-28 06:44:19 PM  

JAGChem82: Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

1. No, I voted for Obama because Romney's a damn fool.

2. I didn't need a free phone from the government because I wanted a cooler one for myself, so I bought my own.

Now, a question for you: Do you think that sucking up to your rich Republican overlords will get you a blowjob from them?


Read #1 again.  If you answer "Yes" you are a racist twit who shouldn't be voting.  The test is designed to eliminate single issue numbskulls who don't think past 1.  Don't vote for the black guy and 2. Vote only for the guy who will give you the most stuff.

As for the blowjob, I'll take 'em where I can get 'em.
 
KIA
2013-06-28 06:48:50 PM  
Maybe it is politicians who should be required to take such a test in public with their scores published before they are allowed to vote on a measure?
 
2013-06-28 06:52:02 PM  
You realize only geniuses and Schrödinger's cat voted in mid 60s Louisiana.
 
2013-06-28 06:54:16 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: Voter turnout for the 2012 primaries in most states was under 20% (per elections.gmu.edu)


In a number of states you're not allowed to vote in a primary unless you're registered with that party.
 
2013-06-28 06:54:27 PM  

100 Watt Walrus: jehovahs witness protection: Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.

Relevance? Or do you just take any opportunity you can to take a swipe at people you think are beneath you?


That seems to be pretty much everyone
 
2013-06-28 06:55:18 PM  

semiotix: So, this is dangerous--because if this one fishy document gets debunked,


Here's a link to Alabama's test in 1965 as part of a civics education program.  Whether the test FTFA is accurate or not it's pretty obvious that these tests were used as a barrier to voting rights, not to protect voting legitimacy.

Warning: .pdf link  http://www.pbs.org/newshour/extra/teachers/lessonplans/us/july-dec08/ a labamatest.pdf

/if I were a teacher my class would be doing this project
 
2013-06-28 07:02:28 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: I actually think a test before being able to vote would be a great thing; but it shouldn't be designed to test someone's reading comprehension...it should be about the most basic issues that are relevant for whatever election is happening.  If you can't correctly identify 3/5 political stances of the person you are voting for....should you really be voting?

I firmly believe this push we have for 'everyone' to vote is the worst possible thing you could do.  It's not about race or education - I have a master's degree - but I don't follow politics.  I haven't studied political science or economics or law or anything else that might be important for our elected officials.  Oh sure - I want 'more jobs' and 'less taxes' and 'more freedom' and 'lower crime' - but so does everyone else.  Not only do I not have any idea on *how* to get those things, I don't follow politics enough to even summarize the issues, much less how different politicians stand on them.

I have no business voting.  So I don't.

But I have so many friends who are as clueless (or more so) - who don't just vote; but strongly identify with a political group and encourage others to vote.  Most often, you can identify someone like this from their Facebook wall.

Oh well - it'll never happen.


/sees what you did there
 
2013-06-28 07:04:33 PM  
Johnson: It is quite simple:
Put your pencil point down at any spot around the selected object.
While applying light pressure, draw a line AROUND the object.
Lift pencil.


A line is a straight one dimensional figure with no width that extends to infinity. From a geometrical standpoint, it is technically impossible.

You can't draw a line around something because a line has no curvature (unless you're warping the fabric of space).

// I mean, if you really want to get technical, you can't even draw a line (only the representation of one) since a line extends to infinity.

// If you want to get pedantic, you can draw a line segment (which a layman will generally call a "line").
 
2013-06-28 07:05:40 PM  

semiotix: I'm a little annoyed with this particular post, history under Rebecca Onion being one of the very few things  Slate has done competently lately. And, in fact, until now, it's been GREAT.

But the  Slate post links to a page on the Civil Rights Movement Veteran webpage which contains  this page which in turn contains two links. One, marked "circa 1964?" is the one shown in the article. Here's what it looks like:

[s18.postimg.org image 488x365]

The other link is marked "circa 1963" (note, no "?") and looks like this:

[s22.postimg.org image 386x359]

Notice how one looks like it was typed or printed in 1963, and the other looks like it came off a mid-1990s word processor?

Now, literacy tests existed. Tests about the Constitution, etc., existed. And they were used in exactly the way you'd think--there's no controversy about that whatsoever. But it's entirely possible that the thing shown in this  Slate article isn't even a transcription of a real document--it smells a bit wrong, and (argument from authority alert) I'm a twentieth-century American historian. It's almost too cute, and the white registrar turning black voters away from the polls in 1964 Louisiana didn't need to be cute.

So, this is dangerous--because if this one fishy document gets debunked, all of a sudden the AM radio dial is going to light up with people talking about how  blacks never had any trouble voting AT ALL, and the VRA was just those damn liberals trying to mess with honest folks' constitutional rights, etc. etc.


Variable-width font plus hand drawn circles does make it seem to be a fraud. The font says a professional typesetter would have been used to get the variable width. The hand drawn circles and the random spots suggest a mimeograph was used. Both at the same time? Unlikely.
 
2013-06-28 07:07:06 PM  

Johnson: How does one "1.  draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence" when they ask you to "circle" something later on?  (examples #4 and #5 are good...)

If you circle the "1." you fail because you did not follow the directions, you drew a circle, not a line.
If you draw a line THROUGH it you fail because you were supposed to draw that line AROUND it.
If you draw a square around it, you fail because you drew a square, not a line.

/no voting for you no matter what you put down.
//repeat WarGames reference mentioned already


Plus you'd fail anyways. The 1 isn't in the sentence. The only "number or letter" as I see it is the a.
 
2013-06-28 07:12:53 PM  

gfid: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Voter turnout for the 2012 primaries in most states was under 20% (per elections.gmu.edu)

In a number of states you're not allowed to vote in a primary unless you're registered with that party.


Which states? In Texas, I (a registered Independent; go ahead and make your jokes) can choose which primary to vote in.

I used the primary figures because using the actual 2012 presidential election figures are deceptive: presidential elections always have higher turnouts. But those turnouts aren't typical. I used what I could find fairly quickly.

You can make excuses for people, but it seems that most of them care enough about their voting rights to biatch about attempts to fark with them, but they not enough to do the thing that actually makes a difference: voting. In every election. Including the boring-ass school board, city council, mayoral elections. The ones in which Obama isn't running.

I voted in a municipal runoff election a couple weeks ago. I guarantee you, I was one of the very few. And I live in a city of about 130,000 people. With various voting locations. In a state that allows early voting (for now, but who knows how that may change, after the Republicans get done making sure the dirty whores pay for having sex outside of marriage).

Being a Democratic-leaning voter in a Republican-controlled state sucks. And the people I blame for it being Republican-controlled are not the Republicans.
 
2013-06-28 07:15:17 PM  
So much nicer not registering to vote. I never have to worry about things I can't change anyway.
 
2013-06-28 07:16:07 PM  
i1.ytimg.com
 
2013-06-28 07:16:42 PM  

NotoriousW.O.P: Yes. Then again, I'm white.


Do you own property?
 
2013-06-28 07:17:20 PM  
Question 21 is ambiguous - does "upside down" in this context mean "flipped vertical" or "rotated 180 degrees"?

Actually, due to random use of quotation marks, many of these are ambiguous.

For instance, a valid response for question 20 is: "B,A,C,K,W,A,R,D,S, comma, F,O,R,W,A,R,D,S"

And another possible answer to 21 could be "the word vote upside down, but in the correct order"
 
2013-06-28 07:19:03 PM  
100% designed to Dq the majority black voters at the time plain and simple.
 
2013-06-28 07:20:40 PM  

lordargent: Johnson: It is quite simple:
Put your pencil point down at any spot around the selected object.
While applying light pressure, draw a line AROUND the object.
Lift pencil.

A line is a straight one dimensional figure with no width that extends to infinity. From a geometrical standpoint, it is technically impossible.You can't draw a line around something because a line has no curvature (unless you're warping the fabric of space). // I mean, if you really want to get technical, you can't even draw a line (only the representation of one) since a line extends to infinity.// If you want to get pedantic, you can draw a line segment (which a layman will generally call a "line").


sounds uppity to me
no voting for you!
 
2013-06-28 07:21:40 PM  

detroitdoesntsuckthatbad: So much nicer not registering to vote. I never have to worry about things I can't change anyway.


I'm pretty sure that's the GOP motto.
 
2013-06-28 07:22:26 PM  
OK, think I just found the results for the recent runoff election in my city. One city council seat was decided by a little over 3600 people. Where I voted (they broke it down by voting location), I was one of 72 voters. No wonder the old people manning the polls looked so bored.
 
2013-06-28 07:22:30 PM  
I wonder if voting cards had the party affiliation next to the candidates back then, like they do now, so people wouldn't have to remember all those pesky names when they go to vote...
 
2013-06-28 07:26:19 PM  
And if that test were made a part if a new "anti-voter fraud" law passed in a red state today, there would be legions of people rushing to post "what's so hard  about passing a test to vote? I had to pass a test to pass 4th grade/get a driver's license, etc "
 
2013-06-28 07:27:28 PM  

lordargent: Johnson: It is quite simple:
Put your pencil point down at any spot around the selected object.
While applying light pressure, draw a line AROUND the object.
Lift pencil.

A line is a straight one dimensional figure with no width that extends to infinity. From a geometrical standpoint, it is technically impossible.


Unless they intend for you to solve it using non-Euclidean geometry.
 
2013-06-28 07:29:12 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: JAGChem82: Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

1. No, I voted for Obama because Romney's a damn fool.

2. I didn't need a free phone from the government because I wanted a cooler one for myself, so I bought my own.

Now, a question for you: Do you think that sucking up to your rich Republican overlords will get you a blowjob from them?

Read #1 again.  If you answer "Yes" you are a racist twit who shouldn't be voting.  The test is designed to eliminate single issue numbskulls who don't think past 1.  Don't vote for the black guy and 2. Vote only for the guy who will give you the most stuff.

As for the blowjob, I'll take 'em where I can get 'em.


You must be the densest person alive. Do you criticize trailer dwelling white hayseeds whey they vote for Romney because "I ain't voting' for that thar nigra Hoosein!" No, because as they're on "your team" and you need them to be useful idiots for your vote count.

Besides, in 2004, blacks voted about 91% for Kerry, probably the pastiest white guy EVER to run for president. We didn't write in Jesse or Al at 91%, did we.

Lastly, they ain't giving you a BJ anytime soon. Maybe a sympathy tug at best.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 07:29:36 PM  
Which states? In Texas, I (a registered Independent; go ahead and make your jokes) can choose which primary to vote in.

The terms are "open primary" (includes unenrolled voters) and "closed primary" (members only). With that you can find lists. I don't know the figures offhand.
 
2013-06-28 07:33:11 PM  
JAGChem82:

You must be the densest person alive. Do you criticize trailer dwelling white hayseeds whey they vote for Romney because "I ain't voting' for that thar nigra Hoosein!" No, because as they're on "your team" and you need them to be useful idiots for your vote count.

Besides, in 2004, blacks voted about 91% for Kerry, probably the pastiest white guy EVER to run for president. We didn't write in Jesse or Al at 91%, did we.

Lastly, they ain't giving you a BJ anytime soon. Maybe a sympathy tug at best.


fark you're stupid. Go away.
 
2013-06-28 07:33:46 PM  

JAGChem82: Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

1. No, I voted for Obama because Romney's a damn fool.

2. I didn't need a free phone from the government because I wanted a cooler one for myself, so I bought my own.

Now, a question for you: Do you think that sucking up to your rich Republican overlords will get you a blowjob from them?


Closety middle-aged guys desperately offer me furtive blowjobs all the time.
 
2013-06-28 07:34:50 PM  
Well, considering the fundamental impossibility of "writing a line around" something, I didn't pass the first question.
 
2013-06-28 07:35:42 PM  

JAGChem82: You must be the densest person alive. Do you criticize trailer dwelling white hayseeds whey they vote for Romney because "I ain't voting' for that thar nigra Hoosein!" No, because as they're on "your team" and you need them to be useful idiots for your vote count.


WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.
 
2013-06-28 07:36:02 PM  
FTFA: "Draw five circles that one common inter-locking part."

I think the guy who wrote this test was a tad bit drunk.
 
2013-06-28 07:36:51 PM  

bwilson27: JAGChem82:

You must be the densest person alive. Do you criticize trailer dwelling white hayseeds whey they vote for Romney because "I ain't voting' for that thar nigra Hoosein!" No, because as they're on "your team" and you need them to be useful idiots for your vote count.

Besides, in 2004, blacks voted about 91% for Kerry, probably the pastiest white guy EVER to run for president. We didn't write in Jesse or Al at 91%, did we.

Lastly, they ain't giving you a BJ anytime soon. Maybe a sympathy tug at best.

fark you're stupid. Go away.


Cry moar.
 
2013-06-28 07:37:11 PM  
i am for testing all people before we let them vote, why oh why do we care what idiots want?

make a test (this has to be more dificult than the GED please) no pass no vote have it taken on a computer in a proctered testing center.

1) name all nine memebers of the supreme court
2) the first 4 people in line of sucession to the office of president
3) what does seperation of powers mean?
4) why is jury duty important
5) who has the power to delcare war and isssue letters of marqe
6) what is the role of the federal reserve
7) what is the oldest law enforcement agency in the US
8) who founded the postal service
 
2013-06-28 07:42:25 PM  
I bet that "Paris in the the spring" would get a lot of people.
 
2013-06-28 07:42:47 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: JAGChem82: You must be the densest person alive. Do you criticize trailer dwelling white hayseeds whey they vote for Romney because "I ain't voting' for that thar nigra Hoosein!" No, because as they're on "your team" and you need them to be useful idiots for your vote count.

WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.


Sure you didn't vote for the R's.... why would you first accuse black voters of voting to get free stuff and Obamaphones? Because NO other white voter EVER voted against a black guy because he was black?
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 07:43:50 PM  
1) name all nine memebers of the supreme court

The three conservatives, the conservative racial quota, the liberal racial quota, the swing vote, and the three liberals.

2) the first 4 people in line of sucession to the office of president

The mouth, the conservative partisan leader, the liberal partisan leader, and radioactive dust.

3) what does seperation of powers mean?

The people have the right to complain when one branch usurps power from another.

4) why is jury duty important

Juries lend an element of surprise to timing of street riots, and when televised jury trials can be great entertainment.

5) who has the power to delcare war and isssue letters of marqe

The president, subject to notification to Congress and a 30 day time limit, unless the President declares the war to be a minor police action or you're a pre-Cold War constitutionalist nitpicker.

6) what is the role of the federal reserve

Its obscure announcements provide an opportunity for talking heads to sound intelligent.

7) what is the oldest law enforcement agency in the US

The street gang.

8) who founded the postal service

Some pony lover.
 
2013-06-28 07:43:54 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.


Humm. This is the test that my native state employed to deny its black citizens access to the ballot box when I was a child. Glad you find it amusing.

I understand English is the third language of the young woman you are mocking. How many of the good white folk Louisiana deemed clever enough to bypass this idiotic exercise do you suppose spoke three languages?
 
2013-06-28 07:44:03 PM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: i am for testing all people before we let them vote, why oh why do we care what idiots want?

make a test (this has to be more dificult than the GED please) no pass no vote have it taken on a computer in a proctered testing center.

1) name all nine memebers of the supreme court
2) the first 4 people in line of sucession to the office of president
3) what does seperation of powers mean?
4) why is jury duty important
5) who has the power to delcare war and isssue letters of marqe
6) what is the role of the federal reserve
7) what is the oldest law enforcement agency in the US
8) who founded the postal service


You might want to edit your post or reconsider whether you are eligible to vote.
 
2013-06-28 07:44:27 PM  
JAGChem82:

WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.

Sure you didn't vote for the R's.... why would you first accuse black voters of voting to get free stuff and Obamaphones? Because NO other white voter EVER voted against a black guy because he was black?


fark you're stupid. Go away.
 
2013-06-28 07:45:14 PM  

Paris1127: One way that test could be worse would be if in the last instruction said "Now that you've read through all of the questions, do not answer any of the questions on this test, fold up the paper and hand it to the official."


Had a professor do something similar on a final. The last instruction was "I'm only grading the odd questions on this test"

/he had a hard-on for "read the test before you take it!"
//read the test
///ate my lunch outside the room laughing at the gasps and groans as people got to the last page.
 
2013-06-28 07:50:41 PM  

leonel: No way you can do this in 10 minutes! 24 would take me a minute alone to think up words that look the same back and forth! RACECAR would probably disqualify me since it could be interpreted as two words.


"I" Is a word
 
2013-06-28 07:51:59 PM  

bwilson27: JAGChem82:

WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.

Sure you didn't vote for the R's.... why would you first accuse black voters of voting to get free stuff and Obamaphones? Because NO other white voter EVER voted against a black guy because he was black?

fark you're stupid. Go away.


Shed some more emo tears, buddy.
 
2013-06-28 07:52:36 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: leonel: No way you can do this in 10 minutes! 24 would take me a minute alone to think up words that look the same back and forth! RACECAR would probably disqualify me since it could be interpreted as two words.

"I" Is a word


Everybody knows the Bird is the word.
 
2013-06-28 07:52:45 PM  

Thingster: Paris1127: One way that test could be worse would be if in the last instruction said "Now that you've read through all of the questions, do not answer any of the questions on this test, fold up the paper and hand it to the official."

Had a professor do something similar on a final. The last instruction was "I'm only grading the odd questions on this test"

/he had a hard-on for "read the test before you take it!"
//read the test
///ate my lunch outside the room laughing at the gasps and groans as people got to the last page.


Mind you, that was a stupid move in a lot of my classes.  Most tests were designed to be unfinishable, so reading the entire test would have cut a significant portion of your class time.

If I knew that THAT professor had a hard-on for "Read the whole test because he pulls stuff", yeah, I'd at least skim the test.

But in the average class, where no one had ever pulled that before, uh no, I'm blasting through as much of the test as I can, and stop wasting my time.
 
2013-06-28 07:55:38 PM  
 Study it real hard if you live in a red state. Given the recent Supreme Court decision I think you can expect to see it real soon. Since their always whining about voting being a privilege rather than a right.
 
2013-06-28 07:57:32 PM  

Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
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Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.


Or the mods could, you know, do their farking jobs with the obvious trolls instead of banning people for posting Anne Hathaway side boob or calling trolls out.
 
2013-06-28 07:58:23 PM  

HypnozombieX: Study it real hard if you live in a red state, and you happen to be some kind of minority. Given the recent Supreme Court decision I think you can expect to see it real soon. Since their always whining about voting being a privilege rather than a right.

 
2013-06-28 07:58:30 PM  

NutWrench: 1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.

I assume this one is supposed to make you run out the clock, while you scratch your head, saying WTF.


No, a bunch of questions like this were most likely pre-written and sent to different states, who would then select the questions they wanted to add to their forms.  It would be written like this to account for either of the 2 numbering systems (i.e 1. 2. 3. or A. B. C.) the list would use.

The only really hard one here was #10, because no one knows what dictionary (if any) they used in the south back then.  The others are just word/counting tricks that anyone in (modern) grade school can complete.
 
2013-06-28 08:00:03 PM  

Skirl Hutsenreiter: Johnson: How does one "1.  draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence" when they ask you to "circle" something later on?  (examples #4 and #5 are good...)

If you circle the "1." you fail because you did not follow the directions, you drew a circle, not a line.
If you draw a line THROUGH it you fail because you were supposed to draw that line AROUND it.
If you draw a square around it, you fail because you drew a square, not a line.

/no voting for you no matter what you put down.
//repeat WarGames reference mentioned already

Plus you'd fail anyways. The 1 isn't in the sentence. The only "number or letter" as I see it is the a.


I think the answer is to circle either the word "number" or the word "letter".
 
2013-06-28 08:00:21 PM  
C
 
2013-06-28 08:03:18 PM  

MarkEC: Variable-width font plus hand drawn circles does make it seem to be a fraud. The font says a professional typesetter would have been used to get the variable width. The hand drawn circles and the random spots suggest a mimeograph was used. Both at the same time? Unlikely.


"Fraud" is nowhere close to being proved, whereas I'll bet my voting rights that it's not an image of a document original to the mid-1960s.

My beef is that if there's an original version of this, a historian should use that instead, and if there's some weird reason it can't be (e.g., it's in an archive with a real persnickety photocopying/photography policy) then a transcription should be labeled as such, and the existence of the original attested to. It's sloppy work for a public historian, is all, because it potentially creates doubt on a larger subject about which there should be none.
 
2013-06-28 08:08:45 PM  
So this is where "are you smarter than a 5thgrader?" came from?
 
2013-06-28 08:09:39 PM  

ZAZ: Which states? In Texas, I (a registered Independent; go ahead and make your jokes) can choose which primary to vote in.

The terms are "open primary" (includes unenrolled voters) and "closed primary" (members only). With that you can find lists. I don't know the figures offhand.


I know in Florida, I couldn't vote in the primary until I joined one of the major parties...I think they would have accepted like 5 or 6 total, including tea, green, etc. But I was told it HAD to be a registered party, not just 'independent'.

So, I registered, joined, voted, and promptly left said party.
 
2013-06-28 08:16:50 PM  

Paris1127: One way that test could be worse would be if in the last instruction said "Now that you've read through all of the questions, do not answer any of the questions on this test, fold up the paper and hand it to the official."



It never ceases to amaze me when some retard creates a multiple choice test with 5 possible answers, the 4th of which is 'none of the above' and the fifth is 'all of the above'.

Pet pieve.
 
2013-06-28 08:20:34 PM  
mithras_angel: Unless they intend for you to solve it using non-Euclidean geometry.

But that would be mad.

"He had said that the geometry of the dream-place he saw was abnormal, non-Euclidean, and loathsomely redolent of spheres and dimensions apart from ours."
 
2013-06-28 08:22:59 PM  
Christ, this looks like bad early 90's software copy protection.
 
2013-06-28 08:25:43 PM  
And I thought my DUI exam was tough.

//pass me another beer.
 
2013-06-28 08:27:38 PM  
One wrong answer to fail and questions that are open to interpretation.... such as 'draw a cross' Well what sort of cross? Draw any type and the grader says it was supposed to be a different type. Automatic fail.

Why can't people see the same nonsense happening today in many things government does?
 
2013-06-28 08:36:04 PM  

JAGChem82: bwilson27: JAGChem82:

WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.

Sure you didn't vote for the R's.... why would you first accuse black voters of voting to get free stuff and Obamaphones? Because NO other white voter EVER voted against a black guy because he was black?

fark you're stupid. Go away.

Shed some more emo tears, buddy.


The point people are trying to get across is that you misunderstood Anderson's Pooper's original statement. He wants to weed out idiots from both sides. You just seem to want to defend your point so bad that you completely disregard what he said.

In other words : fark you're stupid. Go away.
 
2013-06-28 08:42:52 PM  
Here's how it really went down, regardless of what the actual test was.

Step 1: Fill out your answers
Step 2: Hand them to the white male 'test checker', who will evaluate your test.
Step 3: Test checker looks at you. If you are a white male, go to step 5.
Step 4: You failed the test. No, they won't tell you which one you missed. No, you can't have the test back. Test checker calls security.
Step 5: Congratulations, you passed!
 
2013-06-28 08:44:41 PM  
Way to fail Slate...the source on the article doesn't know WHEN that literacy test you posted is from. They are assuming 1964, but really don't know and have it noted with a ?
The 1963 (confirmed) one is up thread.
Yea, that one is pretty hard too.
 
2013-06-28 08:49:57 PM  
Was anyone confused by this test?  I mean besides subby.  Does anyone feel that one particular political party has intelligence issues and would be disenfranchised by this test?
 
2013-06-28 08:51:31 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: That sucks as a voter literacy test but it isn't that hard. It's like one of those critical thinking exercises you got in school.


Since it's so easy, please answer question one for us.  Bonus prize: Answer question ten.

Reminder, question one is:  "1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence."
Hint: Drawing a circle around the number "1" is an automatic fail.  That's a circle, not a line.
And question ten is: "10. In the first circle below write the last letter of the first word beginning with 'L'." (followed by the numbers 1-5, each inside a circle)

If you can answer either one of those questions correctly, +10 Internets.

I probably don't recognize this as a critical thinking exercise from school because I never attended "school" in Louisiana.
 
2013-06-28 08:52:04 PM  

MagicBoris: JAGChem82: bwilson27: JAGChem82:

WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.

Sure you didn't vote for the R's.... why would you first accuse black voters of voting to get free stuff and Obamaphones? Because NO other white voter EVER voted against a black guy because he was black?

fark you're stupid. Go away.

Shed some more emo tears, buddy.

The point people are trying to get across is that you misunderstood Anderson's Pooper's original statement. He wants to weed out idiots from both sides. You just seem to want to defend your point so bad that you completely disregard what he said.

In other words : fark you're stupid. Go away.


Hey, did bwilson get tired of me and sent someone from the minors to deal with me? Congrats for the call up.

Anyway, if he really wanted to weed out idiots from both sides, he wouldn't be so quick to jump on Obama voters for getting largesse or voting "cause he's black". Were there blacks voting for Obama just because he's a brother? I'm sure that number is greater than zero, yes. But it doesn't explain Kerry's number of black voters in 04, does it? Or Gore's in 00?

And if he's really concerned about weeding out idiots, he'd really want to avoid all those white voters out there who didn't want to vote for no black guy either. How many white guys do you think voted for Romney because of that? Pretty sure that number was greater than zero as well. I mean certainly, we don't want anybody out there, black, white, Latino, whatever, voting as something stupid as skin color, right?
 
2013-06-28 08:54:43 PM  
Not to mention the fact that if this rule had been recently created or a voter moved in from out of state, how the hell do you prove an educational level above fifth grade in the first place without your high school diploma?  Have your mom send you a report card from sixth grade?
 
2013-06-28 08:54:47 PM  
semiotix:
So, this is dangerous--because if this one fishy document gets debunked, all of a sudden the AM radio dial is going to light up with people talking about how  blacks never had any trouble voting AT ALL, and the VRA was just those damn liberals trying to mess with honest folks' constitutional rights, etc. etc.

While I think you're worrying too much, the point must be conceded.  Truth doesn't need embellishment.
 
2013-06-28 08:55:32 PM  
25 is farking bullshiat. Watched this Brain games show just the other day that did this exact "trick" and everybody got it wrong the first time the read it and most would get it wrong reading it out loud over and over again. 
/the the
 
2013-06-28 08:55:35 PM  
MagicBoris:
I think the answer is to circle either the word "number" or the word "letter".

bzzzzzt.
FAIL
You were asked to draw a LINE around it.  Not a circle.
no vote for you!
 
2013-06-28 08:58:34 PM  
Everybody knows the Bird is the word.

fingerfood.typepad.com

/Hot like 19-9, 2.34 ERA in '76
 
2013-06-28 08:59:09 PM  

Ambivalence: Oh yah, that wasn't racist. What the fark?


Read the test. Came in, read the comments. You are completely right. I didn't see:

because it was white text and white background.
 
2013-06-28 09:03:20 PM  

JAGChem82: Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

1. No, I voted for Obama because Romney's a damn fool.

2. I didn't need a free phone from the government because I wanted a cooler one for myself, so I bought my own.

Now, a question for you: Do you think that sucking up to your rich Republican overlords will get you a blowjob from them?


Actually, Anderson, I did reread your original post, and on point #1, I do conceed, that you admonished racist Romney voters. My bad to you on that one. There were too many people I've heard claim that black people ONLY voted for Obama because he's black.

To your second point, every politician provides "free stuff" to their constituents. Tax cuts, fewer regulations, etc. But people don't consider those gifts - only cheap phones are gifts.

So I offer you an apology, you don't seem to be a FARK troll.
 
2013-06-28 09:04:08 PM  
Question #6: (Written next to my accompanying sketch of an archery target) They're called "concentric circles", thou leathern-jerkin, crystal-button, knot-pated, agate-ring, puke-stocking, caddis-garter, smooth-tongue Spanish pouch.
 
2013-06-28 09:06:13 PM  
Dear Louisiana and other pigfarker states:
Because you have things like this in your history, you're not allowed to complain about being single out by the VRA.  You've already proven you can't play nicely, and so must have a nanny make sure you don't act like the racist farkwads we all know you are.

The reason things have gotten better in the past 50 years is because nanny has been watching you, not because you'd suddenly stopped being pigfarkers.
 
2013-06-28 09:06:21 PM  
FTA:a single wrong answer meant a failing grade.

But if I got 2 or more wrong answers, I pass.
 
2013-06-28 09:07:30 PM  

JAGChem82: MagicBoris: JAGChem82: bwilson27: JAGChem82:

WTF are you on about?  I didn't vote for Romney.  My team consists of people who actually know something beyond the sound bites they get from either the D's or the R's.

Sure you didn't vote for the R's.... why would you first accuse black voters of voting to get free stuff and Obamaphones? Because NO other white voter EVER voted against a black guy because he was black?

fark you're stupid. Go away.

Shed some more emo tears, buddy.

The point people are trying to get across is that you misunderstood Anderson's Pooper's original statement. He wants to weed out idiots from both sides. You just seem to want to defend your point so bad that you completely disregard what he said.

In other words : fark you're stupid. Go away.

Hey, did bwilson get tired of me and sent someone from the minors to deal with me? Congrats for the call up.

Anyway, if he really wanted to weed out idiots from both sides, he wouldn't be so quick to jump on Obama voters for getting largesse or voting "cause he's black". Were there blacks voting for Obama just because he's a brother? I'm sure that number is greater than zero, yes. But it doesn't explain Kerry's number of black voters in 04, does it? Or Gore's in 00?

And if he's really concerned about weeding out idiots, he'd really want to avoid all those white voters out there who didn't want to vote for no black guy either. How many white guys do you think voted for Romney because of that? Pretty sure that number was greater than zero as well. I mean certainly, we don't want anybody out there, black, white, Latino, whatever, voting as something stupid as skin color, right?


I just couldn't help intervene... you're just that awfully clueless.

The original quote was :

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

Read the words. That exactly means " to avoid all those white voters out there who didn't want to vote for no black guy "
(unless you're trying to trick us with a double negative)
 
2013-06-28 09:09:40 PM  
Question 1 - "Are you white?"

[Y] turn this questionnaire in to the registrar and proceed to the voting booth
[N} come back tomorrow
 
2013-06-28 09:14:59 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.


Good lord you're a horrible human being.
 
2013-06-28 09:16:41 PM  
It seems simple enough, but it kind of trailed off there. It's just been WAY too long of a week, so all I can really do is sit, read Fark, and dip honey wheat pretzels in peanut butter and jelly swirled together.

Go ahead...take away my voting rights. There's been no good candidates lately anyway.
 
2013-06-28 09:17:33 PM  
i.imgur.com

Bondith: Dear Louisiana and other pigfarker states:


Which includes New York (Brooklyn, Manhattan and the Bronx) , Alaska, Arizona, California, South Dakota, and Michigan.

Them pigfarkers is everywhere Cleetus. You can have a party.
 
2013-06-28 09:17:45 PM  

Smelly Pirate Hooker: gfid: Smelly Pirate Hooker: Voter turnout for the 2012 primaries in most states was under 20% (per elections.gmu.edu)

In a number of states you're not allowed to vote in a primary unless you're registered with that party.

Which states? In Texas, I (a registered Independent; go ahead and make your jokes) can choose which primary to vote in.


This link has a handy list of basic primary voting rules by state:

Link



I used the primary figures because using the actual 2012 presidential election figures are deceptive: presidential elections always have higher turnouts. But those turnouts aren't typical. I used what I could find fairly quickly.

You can make excuses for people, but it seems that most of them care enough about their voting rights to biatch about attempts to fark with them, but they not enough to do the thing that actually makes a difference: voting. In every election. Including the boring-ass school board, city council, mayoral elections. The ones in which Obama isn't running.

I voted in a municipal runoff election a couple weeks ago. I guarantee you, I was one of the very few. And I live in a city of about 130,000 people. With various voting locations. In a state that allows early voting (for now, but who knows how that may change, after the Republicans get done making sure the dirty whores pay for having sex outside of marriage).

Being a Democratic-leaning voter in a Republican-controlled state sucks. And the people I blame for it being Republican-controlled are not the Republicans.


I agree with everything else you said though - I suppose independents in Closed Primary states could just register for one party or another and vote in the primaries. I'm not sure if there would be any disadvantages to that (I can't think of any).

I think the town I live in (population ~150,000) only had ~30,000 voters in our latest city election and mail-in ballots are actually strongly encouraged so it's amazingly easy to vote. I always drop my mail-in ballot off in person just to make sure it gets there and gets there on time but the post office is actually pretty reliable and quick.
 
2013-06-28 09:21:04 PM  

pjkraatz: Hint: Drawing a circle around the number "1" is an automatic fail.  That's a circle, not a line.


There's more than one usage for the word "line".  Maybe you should go play draw a line
 
2013-06-28 09:25:02 PM  

12349876: patentguy: netweavr: The "single wrong answer" criteria would probably have gotten a lot of people who just brain-farted on something.

You're starting to understand.  The person grading might miss an error by a white voter while making sure to find any technical error by a black voter.  It's not the test, it's the grader.

It's not just that, it's who takes the test.  In this situation, if you could prove you had a fifth grade education you didn't have to take it.  They probably found a way to make black schools not count or something like that.


Probably applied the 3/5ths rule: a black's 5th grade edumakation is equal to a white boy's 3rd grade edumakation.
 
2013-06-28 09:32:23 PM  

ongbok: I guess in the questions that asked to draw a line around something he would determine if drawing a circle around it, or something else, was the correct response.


Whatever you answer, it's the other way.
 
2013-06-28 09:33:14 PM  

patentguy: It's not the test, it's the grader.


It's not the votes that count, it's who's counting the votes.
 
2013-06-28 09:34:32 PM  
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2013-06-28 09:35:41 PM  
Yes, that shiat is easy... Seriously, if you are "befuddled" then you are dumb.
 
2013-06-28 09:42:21 PM  

Fark_Guy_Rob: If you can't correctly identify 3/5 political stances of the person you are voting for....should you really be voting?


I'd be hard pressed, even now, to identify 3 or 5 of Romney's political stances. Does "all of them" count?
 
2013-06-28 09:43:49 PM  
People who think they are qualified to say who should or shouldn't be allowed to vote shouldn't be allowed to vote.
 
2013-06-28 09:53:47 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: That sucks as a voter literacy test but it isn't that hard. It's like one of those critical thinking exercises you got in school.


It's actually impossible to pass if you're black, because several of the questions have multiple possible answers, and therefore the white registrar can choose which one is the "real" answer and say you failed because you picked the wrong one.
 
2013-06-28 09:54:43 PM  

12349876: It's not just that, it's who takes the test. In this situation, if you could prove you had a fifth grade education you didn't have to take it. They probably found a way to make black schools not count or something like that.


Back in the days when my parents went to school (1940's - 1950's) in North Carolina, blacks had two issues (out of many) against them where education was concerned... one, the males frequently didn't finish high school (some didn't even get through junior high/middle school) because if you were big enough and old enough, work came first. As long as you could count, do subtraction, addition, multiplication and division and sign your name, you were deemed ready for the workforce and were expected to participate.

Women were expected to stay in school just long enough to find someone to marry. Even so, the ratio of female to male HS grads was almost 8 to 1.

The second issue was that the whites didn't want their schools compared to the segregated schools where blacks went. The local school my parents went to was called "Anson County Training School", not "High School". They got the books and furniture after the whites were finished with them from the school down the road and across the tracks, and their curriculum was up to three years behind. It was renamed in 1960, but the original name was carved into the bricks where it stayed until it was closed in the 80's. Only the gym remains of the original building, used for storage now. The rest is now a church.

Parts of "Evil Dead 2" were filmed in the abandoned school building and around Wadesboro, NC.
/csb
 
2013-06-28 10:04:08 PM  

jehovahs witness protection: Trayvon's girlfriend damn sure wouldn't be allowed to vote.


LOL!
Both political parties DEPEND on these kind of voters to support their agenda.

Divide and conquer you dumb partisan dickwads.
 
2013-06-28 10:10:50 PM  

knowless: Yes, that shiat is easy... Seriously, if you are "befuddled" then you are dumb.


You sound white.

/ambiguously worded questions whose "correct" answer is at the sole discretion of the (white male) grader
//most of the people taking the test were black
///test-takers needed to answer all 30 questions correctly within ten minutes in order to be allowed to vote, as running out of time or getting even one "wrong" answer meant failure
////these tests were happening in the deep south in an era when drinking fountains looked like this:
blog.ericharmatz.com
and drinking from the wrong sprout was an arrestable offense
 
2013-06-28 10:17:32 PM  

Abner Doon: Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
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Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.

This.  If you're going to do that, at least just link to them.  There's a reason I have him on ignore, I don't care what he has to say.  I certainly don't want a confusing threadshiat of his past idiocy that I have to scroll past.

/ at the very least, quote him so your post will get ignored as well


Oooooh! I'd not looked through the settings closely, didn't know I could ignore references to the idiots and bigots I've ignored, too. Thank you!
 
2013-06-28 10:29:46 PM  

CowardlyLion: Abner Doon: Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
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[i915.photobucket.com image 850x390]
[i915.photobucket.com image 850x543]
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Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.

This.  If you're going to do that, at least just link to them.  There's a reason I have him on ignore, I don't care what he has to say.  I certainly don't want a confusing threadshiat of his past idiocy that I have to scroll past.

/ at the very least, quote him so your post will get ignored as well

Oooooh! I'd not looked through the settings closely, didn't know I could ignore references to the idiots and bigots I've ignored, too. Thank you!


Your Fark handle is appropriate.
 
2013-06-28 10:38:53 PM  
I was waiting for the question where they tell you to write the name of your favorite candidate and draw a line through the first vowel in the alphabet coming after m appearing in the candidate's name.
 
2013-06-28 10:51:43 PM  

trappedspirit: pjkraatz: Hint: Drawing a circle around the number "1" is an automatic fail.  That's a circle, not a line.

There's more than one usage for the word "line".  Maybe you should go play draw a line


Forget the line bit; what does "the letter or number of this sentence" mean? I can think of a number of different answers, and so if I wanted to fail someone, all I'd have to do is claim that an answer they didn't pick was the right one.
 
2013-06-28 10:56:56 PM  

Psycoholic_Slag: Your Fark handle is appropriate.


Thanks--I didn't realize you could see my costume through the internet.

/the mane's really pretty, right?
 
2013-06-28 10:58:06 PM  
I'd have to say that more than half the white population in 1964 would not have passed it.  There are several grammatical doozies that invalidate their own instructions.
Fav "Spell backwards, forwards."

When you're told to "spell" something it is to say it out loud.  The correct answer to this is "b a c k w a r d s" but I figure half of you would have printed "f o r w a r d s".    "Spell backwards; forwards." is the question to the second answer.

A lot of complex instructions and quite probably a very useful test with effective results.  They wanted only fully educated blacks to vote.
 
2013-06-28 11:11:03 PM  

Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.


3. Are you planning to vote for Obama because Romney is a Mormon?
 
2013-06-28 11:20:07 PM  
Isn't the first question whether or not you had a 5th grade education? In that case yes I have proof.

/It would also help that I am a white land-owning male.
 
2013-06-28 11:20:47 PM  
I aced it in 1o minutes. It's not hard.
 
2013-06-28 11:33:17 PM  
This is some seriously farked racist BS.

That being said (and at risk of sounding like some literati a-hole) I think it wouldn't be to bad to require voters to at least have a high school diploma (or equivalent), or be required to take a high school exit exam to vote.

Quite frankly, we have too many idiots voting already, weeding out a few might be a good idea.
 
2013-06-28 11:43:53 PM  

Benue: FTA:a single wrong answer meant a failing grade.

But if I got 2 or more wrong answers, I pass.


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2013-06-28 11:45:37 PM  

The Wack: This is some seriously farked racist BS.

That being said (and at risk of sounding like some literati a-hole) I think it wouldn't be to bad to require voters to at least have a high school diploma (or equivalent), or be required to take a high school exit exam to vote.

Quite frankly, we have too many idiots voting already, weeding out a few might be a good idea.


That, and you should have to pay a net positive tax to vote. Welfare bums will always vote for whomever promises them the most stuff. We should not reward them with more free stuff. They breed faster as well, so soon everyone will just want free stuff and nobody will be able to pay for it.
 
2013-06-28 11:48:55 PM  

prjindigo: I'd have to say that more than half the white population in 1964 would not have passed it.  There are several grammatical doozies that invalidate their own instructions.
Fav "Spell backwards, forwards."

When you're told to "spell" something it is to say it out loud.  The correct answer to this is "b a c k w a r d s" but I figure half of you would have printed "f o r w a r d s".    "Spell backwards; forwards." is the question to the second answer.

A lot of complex instructions and quite probably a very useful test with effective results.  They wanted only fully educated blacks to vote.


Yes... The entire point of the test is to make multiple answers possible so that the person grading the test could decide if you passed based upon more, uh, visible traits. Besides, I'm not sure is Louisiana is one of those states that did, but many states had an easy and hard version of the tests - again, the poll worker decides which test you get. This had absolutely nothing to do with wanting only educated people voting.
 
2013-06-28 11:54:05 PM  

willfullyobscure: I aced it in 1o minutes. It's not hard.


Are you sure about that?  A good number of the questions are purposefully ambiguous.

That you didn't notice should count as a fail.
 
2013-06-28 11:56:22 PM  

meat0918: I farking hate racists.


Don't fark them then, find someone else.
 
2013-06-29 12:01:35 AM  
Better than the new voter test.

"Will you vote for Obama?" here is your ballot, illegal alien, guy who voted 6 times already, and dead person.
 
2013-06-29 12:07:24 AM  
ANSEWER KEY FOR DA PEOPILS DAT FINK DIS IS A HARD TEST HURRRR

1) draw a line around, but do not close, either the word number or the word letter
2)draw line under the last wrod in the sentince
3)'longest' is the longest word
4)'a' is the shortest word
5)a is the first first letter
6)duh
7)duh
8)B
9)Z, Y
10)t
11)strike 5 zeros from the end. in 1963, zero was not necessarily a number so do not strike the 1
12)left under 2 and 1, around at over the rest to 5
13)kill yourself if you can't do this one
14) line under 'i', strike 'l'
15)esion with a dot over o
16)hurrrr
17)32(hurrr)
18)12(hurrr)
19)derrr
20)sdrawrof
21)spin the paper upside down and write etov
22)cross over last 's' in cross. 'Place_a' circle 'the' after 'last'
23)make a square. then / and --
24)mom dad madam bob pop tot stats tenet solos level radar redder civic deified repaper racecar blahblahblah
25)Paris in the the spring
26)q
27)right
28)make a line with a lateral curve running through the middle. like a bow and arrow heiroglpyh
29)every word THIS line Print THIRD in line

30)
upload.wikimedia.org

it didn't even take me 10 minutes to type it all out, jeez
 
2013-06-29 12:23:04 AM  
semiotix:

Notice how one looks like it was typed or printed in 1963, and the other looks like it came off a mid-1990s word processor?

Now, literacy tests existed. Tests about the Constitution, etc., existed. And they were used in exactly the way you'd think--there's no controversy about that whatsoever. But it's entirely possible that the thing shown in this  Slate article isn't even a transcription of a real document--it smells a bit wrong, and (argument from authority alert) I'm a twentieth-century American historian. It's almost too cute, and the white registrar turning black voters away from the polls in 1964 Louisiana didn't need to be cute.



Now that you have pointed it out, I think you're right.  It does look like it came out of a modern word processing program and not a 1960s era typewriter.  I think it's a fugazi.
 
2013-06-29 12:25:57 AM  

willfullyobscure: ANSEWER KEY FOR DA PEOPILS DAT FINK DIS IS A HARD TEST HURRRR

1) draw a line around, but do not close, either the word number or the word letter


1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.

You Failed.  You were supposed to circle the number 1.
 
2013-06-29 12:26:53 AM  

Thunderpipes: The Wack: This is some seriously farked racist BS.

That being said (and at risk of sounding like some literati a-hole) I think it wouldn't be to bad to require voters to at least have a high school diploma (or equivalent), or be required to take a high school exit exam to vote.

Quite frankly, we have too many idiots voting already, weeding out a few might be a good idea.

That, and you should have to pay a net positive tax to vote. Welfare bums will always vote for whomever promises them the most stuff. We should not reward them with more free stuff. They breed faster as well, so soon everyone will just want free stuff and nobody will be able to pay for it.


Hey, I don't care if you're poor - I don't want to delineate on class lines, the rich and their corporations already have enough control of this country.  The secret to both our ideas is to make the population smart enough that the poor realize that the promises of politicians are empty, so the people can actually vote in their self interest, rather than voting for "free stuff" or on ideological grounds which ultimately results in tax breaks for those who are dodging taxes anyways.

/Who am I kidding, whomever gets voted in will just be another whore to our corporate overlords anyways, it doesn't matter who votes.
 
2013-06-29 12:42:08 AM  

The Wack: Thunderpipes: The Wack: This is some seriously farked racist BS.

That being said (and at risk of sounding like some literati a-hole) I think it wouldn't be to bad to require voters to at least have a high school diploma (or equivalent), or be required to take a high school exit exam to vote.

Quite frankly, we have too many idiots voting already, weeding out a few might be a good idea.

That, and you should have to pay a net positive tax to vote. Welfare bums will always vote for whomever promises them the most stuff. We should not reward them with more free stuff. They breed faster as well, so soon everyone will just want free stuff and nobody will be able to pay for it.

Hey, I don't care if you're poor - I don't want to delineate on class lines, the rich and their corporations already have enough control of this country.  The secret to both our ideas is to make the population smart enough that the poor realize that the promises of politicians are empty, so the people can actually vote in their self interest, rather than voting for "free stuff" or on ideological grounds which ultimately results in tax breaks for those who are dodging taxes anyways.

/Who am I kidding, whomever gets voted in will just be another whore to our corporate overlords anyways, it doesn't matter who votes.


Being poor is a choice. Choosing to be poor means you are a douche, and should not be deciding how hard working people's tax dollars are spent, because you would always want someone else to work and have money given to you. That is not sustainable when you consider poor people have many more children and they tend to be poor as well. Eventually, you run out of other people's money to spend.
 
2013-06-29 12:50:30 AM  

180IQ: willfullyobscure: ANSEWER KEY FOR DA PEOPILS DAT FINK DIS IS A HARD TEST HURRRR

1) draw a line around, but do not close, either the word number or the word letter

1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.

You Failed.  You were supposed to circle the number 1.


FAILBOAT.jpg to you

if you were black, you would not have voted, and now, after your response, i'm a little bit sympathetic to the idea....
 
2013-06-29 12:51:40 AM  

willfullyobscure: ANSEWER KEY FOR DA PEOPILS DAT FINK DIS IS A HARD TEST HURRRR

1) draw a line around, but do not close, either the word number or the word letter


BZZ, wrong.  The "number or letter of the line" is the "1".  Circle that ... ignoring that a circle is not a "line".

29)every word THIS line Print THIRD in line

BZZ, wrong.
"every word this line PRINT third in line,
OTHER THIS AND THIRD SAME"
is the answer we are looking for, assuming "original type" is the every-other clause, and "first line ended at comma" is instructions for the answer and not some wacky irrelevant description of the line above.

Honestly #29 isn't even a grammatical sentence or even a grammatical phrase.

Either way, you don't get to vote.  (It doesn't even matter if your answers are equally legitimate alternate answers, it's the registrar who decides which way is "right"....after looking at your skin.)
 
2013-06-29 01:01:13 AM  

Mateorabi: willfullyobscure: ANSEWER KEY FOR DA PEOPILS DAT FINK DIS IS A HARD TEST HURRRR

1) draw a line around, but do not close, either the word number or the word letter

BZZ, wrong.  The "number or letter of the line" is the "1".  Circle that ... ignoring that a circle is not a "line".

29)every word THIS line Print THIRD in line

BZZ, wrong.
"every word this line PRINT third in line,
OTHER THIS AND THIRD SAME"
is the answer we are looking for, assuming "original type" is the every-other clause, and "first line ended at comma" is instructions for the answer and not some wacky irrelevant description of the line above.

Honestly #29 isn't even a grammatical sentence or even a grammatical phrase.

Either way, you don't get to vote.  (It doesn't even matter if your answers are equally legitimate alternate answers, it's the registrar who decides which way is "right"....after looking at your skin.)


Dude.

wow.

never mind 1) because wow logic duh  but 29) ALLCAPS means printed letters instead of script,(in 1963 everyone used script) and capitalization is only the first letter of a word.

I'm very, very, very sorry you hung yourself out to dry like that but ouchie, my man. burned by self. phew.
 
2013-06-29 01:10:29 AM  

willfullyobscure: 180IQ: willfullyobscure: ANSEWER KEY FOR DA PEOPILS DAT FINK DIS IS A HARD TEST HURRRR

1) draw a line around, but do not close, either the word number or the word letter

1. Draw a line around the number or letter of this sentence.

You Failed.  You were supposed to circle the number 1.

FAILBOAT.jpg to you

if you were black, you would not have voted, and now, after your response, i'm a little bit sympathetic to the idea....


Did you miss the part where I explained to you that many of the questions on the test are purposefully ambiguous?

Are you really so thick that you can't see that the answer I provided is satisfactory given a perfectly legitimate alternative interpretation of the question?  (The point was to show you that there can be more than one correct answer as the questions are ambiguous!)

To your answer specifically, I can think of a couple ways to dispute it.  If you were black, and I didn't want you to vote I could object that the line you drew was not closed as the questions asks for a line around, not part-way around.  I could also object to circling either the word "number" or "letter" as the question asks you to circle the number or letter of the question, not in the question.

The point of the test wasn't to make a test so difficult that very few black people could pass.  The point was to make a test that is impossible to pass, due to the ambiguity of the questions.

I can't believe that I had to explain that to you.
 
2013-06-29 01:16:05 AM  
After seeing this Mississippi literacy test on display at the LBJ Presidential Library, I have a hard time believing TFA test is real:

i43.tinypic.com

\\either that, or the state of LA just has bigger assholes
 
2013-06-29 01:34:33 AM  

Zemog: If you lack the life skills to acquire a photo ID, we're all better off without your vote.


unless you are elderly, born in a rural area where record keeping was spotty at best and the records aren't available. or you don't drive and the photo ID office is open on alternate wednesdays from 1-3 PM only and located in bumfark, yourstate. or they require a $50 processing fee for each of the three documents you need and it as to be cash only. and form one requires a single $50, form two requires 2 $20 and a ten and form three requires ten fives. oh you didn't know that? please come back next wednesday. oh that's a holiday the wednesday after that.
 
2013-06-29 01:50:55 AM  
I'm watching Ferris Bueller's Day off right now, and I just got past the parade "Shake it on Baby Now," scene, and all the actual dancers are black.  Yeah some of the crowd scenes had white people, but the actual choreographed dancers were all black.  I watched it twice to make sure.  It's around the 1:04 minute mark.  Never noticed before, but really, how farked up is that?

/check it out on Netflix and correct me if I'm wrong.
 
2013-06-29 02:02:04 AM  

JAGChem82: To your second point, every politician provides "free stuff" to their constituents. Tax cuts, fewer regulations, etc. But people don't consider those gifts - only cheap phones are gifts.


Care to explain exactly how letting someone keep their own property is giving them a gift?
 
2013-06-29 02:04:31 AM  

Dman33: How in the world could one draw a LINE AROUND something? A LINE?? Unpossible!


It didn't say a straight line.  A circle is still a line.
 
2013-06-29 03:04:53 AM  
semiotix:...Notice how one looks like it was typed or printed in 1963, and the other looks like it came off a mid-1990s word processor?...You would think the form would have been professionally typeset and printed for mass distribution. To see what that might look like in the 1960s, I googled "1960 form" and found this one for a college application. It is isn't done on a typewriter either.http://digitalnc.org/blog/applying-college-1960The other document you gave as an example could have been mimeographed, which expains why it was typewritten. You used a typewriter to create the stencil for printing.The documents still could be fake. But the fact that it isn't typewritten isn't a reason. I could replicate the typewritten document on my computer now too.
 
2013-06-29 07:48:07 AM  
This test was never meant to be answered correctly. The trick of it is that the questions are worded so vaguely that the test administrators could pass whoever they want (whites) and fail whoever they want (blacks), with the Feds none the wiser. Note that the test also is written in such a way that it must be graded by hand. That way, if any Damned Yankees came snooping around, demanding to know why no blacks in Louisiana were voting, Louisiana administrators could just shrug their shoulders and say "No blacks passed the literacy test. But we gave the exact same test to both blacks and whites!" And nobody would be any the wiser.
 
2013-06-29 08:02:59 AM  

Duke_leto_Atredes: i am for testing all people before we let them vote, why oh why do we care what idiots want?

make a test (this has to be more dificult than the GED please) no pass no vote have it taken on a computer in a proctered testing center.

1) name all nine memebers of the supreme court
2) the first 4 people in line of sucession to the office of president
3) what does seperation of powers mean?
4) why is jury duty important
5) who has the power to delcare war and isssue letters of marqe
6) what is the role of the federal reserve
7) what is the oldest law enforcement agency in the US
8) who founded the postal service


I can pass your test - obviously I'm a dumbass because based on the stated "one wrong answer you fail" routine, I'm not literate.

/Would love, love, love to see this as a test for voting.
 
2013-06-29 08:05:29 AM  
HypnozombieX: Study it real hard if you live in a red state. Given the recent Supreme Court decision I think you can expect to see it real soon. Since their they're always whining about voting being a privilege rather than a right.

You were saying ...?
 
2013-06-29 08:09:33 AM  
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-29 09:30:02 AM  

Anderson's Pooper: My proposed test for the 2012 Presidential Election

1.  Are you planning on voting for Romney because Obama is black?

2.  Are you planning to vote for Obama because he will give you a phone?

If you answer "Yes" to either of the above you shouldn't be allowed to vote.




3. Are you planning on voting for Obama for no other reason other than the fact that he is black
 
2013-06-29 12:28:42 PM  

thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.


Thanks for giving him the attention he craves.
 
2013-06-29 12:43:57 PM  
You know, I suggested something like this a while back - not a literacy test though, there's no sense in requiring someone be literate to have a valid political opinion.

What they should have though, and do need to have an informed political opinion is knowledge regarding how the system works, and the current state of politics, like who's running, and what points do they stand for, on all sides of the current issues.  The trick is finding out who's got a informed opinion, and who's an idiot that we shouldn't pay as much attention to.

So, make them take a test, just like 7'th grade political science class, on the basics of our political system, and add in some questions about the various candidates in the immediate election.  Their vote counts for the percent score they get.  They get a 65, their vote is only worth .65 of a vote, and so on.

... I admit, the most contentious item here would be the 'current candidates' questions.  Fine, leave it off, still would greatly alter the voting landscape of the US in a positive direction.  The folks who understand how things work may be worth 10 of the mindless idiots who vote based on tv ads or the candidate backed by a favorite singer.  Let's see what happens when politicians have to pander to people who've shown a minimum level of intelligence, instead of the lowest common denominator.
 
2013-06-29 01:00:49 PM  

semiotix: My beef is that if there's an original version of this, a historian should use that instead, and if there's some weird reason it can't be (e.g., it's in an archive with a real persnickety photocopying/photography policy) then a transcription should be labeled as such, and the existence of the original attested to. It's sloppy work for a public historian, is all, because it potentially creates doubt on a larger subject about which there should be none.


My guess is the original was marked up heavily, with the attempted answers? Someone might have stolen it after running out of time and knowing they'd be farked.
 
2013-06-29 01:02:25 PM  

gfid: I agree with everything else you said though - I suppose independents in Closed Primary states could just register for one party or another and vote in the primaries. I'm not sure if there would be any disadvantages to that (I can't think of any).


xaks: I know in Florida, I couldn't vote in the primary until I joined one of the major parties...I think they would have accepted like 5 or 6 total, including tea, green, etc. But I was told it HAD to be a registered party, not just 'independent'.

So, I registered, joined, voted, and promptly left said party.


The problem is in a larger primary, when you have candidates you like best from multiple parties. Below the national level, candidates for parties tend to be a little less psychotic about pushing ideology, and their record of getting crap done and avoiding corruption scandals is a lot more important. Now, I'll be the first to say that insurance commissioner or attorney general really shouldn't even be a party position, but it is what it is, and I'd rather the primary be open.
 
2013-06-29 01:03:01 PM  

Krieghund: thamike: Oh, good.  Another one for the collection.
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Seriously, get a life.

If you don't like a poster, ignore them or flag them as a troll. If you're planning on reposting every instance of JWP saying something idiotic, you'll be here all day.



He was, yet again, going on a drive-by threadsh*t through the queue with impunity.  Notice that in this thread, his first was his last.

Welcome to Fark.  I'm the guy who occasionally shames morons for sport and entertainment. Who might you be?
 
2013-06-29 01:55:53 PM  

video man: ZAZ: Some of those seemed like a written version of a sobriety test, not a literacy test.

"Say the alphabet backwards."

"Z... A... Officer, I can't do this sober."

I've memorized the ZYX's. I can rattle them off with a BAC in excess of .10


Yeah, well *puffs up in a superior stance* I can recite Jabberwocky, fully and completely from memory. Only darned piece of poetry I ever bothered to memorize and it took my poor, addled brain about 2 months to accomplish; no mean feat.  Too bad cops don't ask for that when pulling over drunks or for that matter, on a literacy test.

I would've flunked this test in spectacular fashion and would never be permitted to vote. But, I am a woman, after all. Maybe I shouldn't be driving either.
 
2013-06-29 02:26:46 PM  

NotoriousW.O.P: Yes. Then again, I'm white.


There are plenty of stupid white people who couldn't pass that test either-including whoever made it up.

While that test would make a good mini-mental, it has nothing to do with literacy.

#1 isn't even the worst question, as a circle is a line connecting all point a set distance from a single point, so same for #4. I bet I could find plenty of people who don't know what concentric means, so #6

#16? huh?

#30 isn't even a complete
 
2013-06-29 02:30:52 PM  
With the fools populating the United States these days, I wish they had a test like this AND
a history and or Constitution test before you could vote!!
 
2013-06-29 04:26:22 PM  

scruffynerfherder: 3. Are you planning on voting for Obama for no other reason other than the fact that he is black


I know I'm feeding the troll, but:
If this was the case, then explain the overwhelming percentage of the black vote received but the white democrat candidates in every single election since FDR?

Franklin Roosevelt - 71%
Harry Truman - 77%
John F Kennedy - 68% (would probably have garnered a much higher percentage in re-election if he hadn't been killed)
Lyndon Johnson - 94%
Jimmy Carter - 83%
Michael Dukakis - 89%
Walter Mondale - 91%
Bill Clinton - 84%
Al Gore - 90%
John Kerry - 88%

Black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and have done so for about six decades for a host of reasons.  One of those reasons is, simply put, that republicans suck. We don't like you, because you have demonstrated that you don't like us.

So why should I vote for people who despise the fact that I exist?
 
2013-06-29 05:17:28 PM  
A chairwoman of the Tea Party finds herself outside the Pearly Gates, where she is greeted by St. Peter. "Am I where I think I am?" she exclaims. "It's so beautiful! Did I make it to Heaven?"

"Yes, my dear, these are the Gates to Heaven. But you must do one thing before you can enter."

Very excited, the woman asks what she must do to pass through the gates.

"Spell a word," St. Peter replies.

"What word?" she asks.

"Any word," answers St. Peter. "It's your choice."

The woman promptly replies, "The word I will spell is love. L-O-V-E."

St. Peter congratulates her on her good fortune of making it into Heaven and asks her if she will take his place at the gates for a moment while he goes to the bathroom.

"I'd be honored," she says, "but what should I do if someone comes while you are gone?"

St. Peter instructs her to require any new comers to spell a word, just as she had done. So the woman takes St. Peter's chair and watches the beautiful angels soaring around her, when lo and behold, a man approaches the gate.

It's Barack Obama!

"What happened?" she cries. "Why are you here?"

Obama explained, "I was so mad when Congress de-authorized the Affordable Care Act, I had a stroke. Now I am here, ready to join you in Heaven."

"Not just yet," the woman replied. "First you must spell a word."

"What word?" he asks.

"Floccinaucinihilipilification."

/look it up
 
2013-06-29 06:00:46 PM  

rewind2846: So why should I vote for people who despise the fact that I exist?


That's why Republicans are working so hard to relieve minorites of the burden of voting. Let the angry old white men do it.
 
2013-06-29 06:32:16 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: A chairwoman of the Tea Party finds herself outside the Pearly Gates, where she is greeted by St. Peter. "Am I where I think I am?" she exclaims. "It's so beautiful! Did I make it to Heaven?"

"Yes, my dear, these are the Gates to Heaven. But you must do one thing before you can enter."

Very excited, the woman asks what she must do to pass through the gates.

"Spell a word," St. Peter replies.

"What word?" she asks.

"Any word," answers St. Peter. "It's your choice."

The woman promptly replies, "The word I will spell is love. L-O-V-E."

St. Peter congratulates her on her good fortune of making it into Heaven and asks her if she will take his place at the gates for a moment while he goes to the bathroom.

"I'd be honored," she says, "but what should I do if someone comes while you are gone?"

St. Peter instructs her to require any new comers to spell a word, just as she had done. So the woman takes St. Peter's chair and watches the beautiful angels soaring around her, when lo and behold, a man approaches the gate.

It's Barack Obama!

"What happened?" she cries. "Why are you here?"

Obama explained, "I was so mad when Congress de-authorized the Affordable Care Act, I had a stroke. Now I am here, ready to join you in Heaven."

"Not just yet," the woman replied. "First you must spell a word."

"What word?" he asks.

"Floccinaucinihilipilification."

/look it up


Bah, I couldn't get behind that joke.  Too unrealistic.  Everyone knows a Tea Partier would spell "love" N-R-A.
 
2013-06-29 06:45:12 PM  

p51d007: With the fools populating the United States these days, I wish they had a test like this AND
a history and or Constitution test before you could vote!!


You would possibly get extra credit for jubilation.
 
2013-06-29 08:15:01 PM  

rewind2846: scruffynerfherder: 3. Are you planning on voting for Obama for no other reason other than the fact that he is black

I know I'm feeding the troll, but:
If this was the case, then explain the overwhelming percentage of the black vote received but the white democrat candidates in every single election since FDR?

Franklin Roosevelt - 71%
Harry Truman - 77%
John F Kennedy - 68% (would probably have garnered a much higher percentage in re-election if he hadn't been killed)
Lyndon Johnson - 94%
Jimmy Carter - 83%
Michael Dukakis - 89%
Walter Mondale - 91%
Bill Clinton - 84%
Al Gore - 90%
John Kerry - 88%

Black people vote overwhelmingly for Democrats, and have done so for about six decades for a host of reasons.  One of those reasons is, simply put, that republicans suck. We don't like you, because you have demonstrated that you don't like us.

So why should I vote for people who despise the fact that I exist?


Wasn't trying to troll. I don't give a fark who you or anybody votes for as long as it is for a good reason. People need to do their homework and study the issues and vote for the person whom they feel is the right one for the job. I know people who voted for Romney only because he's white. I know people who voted for Obama only because he's black. Bother of these types of voters are disgraceful, and that was my point. So chill my brother. ..
 
2013-06-29 09:38:37 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: That sucks as a voter literacy test but it isn't that hard. It's like one of those critical thinking exercises you got in school.


Except you only have 10 minutes to read and parse the questions and complete them. I think even smart folks like us Farkers would fail this test a lot more often than anyone would pass it. Single wrong answer fails the test. Of course if you were black there was always at least one wrong answer, no matter what you put down.
 
2013-06-29 11:07:38 PM  

scruffynerfherder: I know people who voted for Romney only because he's white. I know people who voted for Obama only because he's black.


No, you don't.
 
2013-06-29 11:09:31 PM  

scruffynerfherder: Wasn't trying to troll.


So, it's clinical then?
 
2013-06-29 11:36:25 PM  

thamike: scruffynerfherder: I know people who voted for Romney only because he's white. I know people who voted for Obama only because he's black.

No, you don't.




Yes I do. Sorry to burst you bubble
 
2013-06-29 11:37:40 PM  

thamike: scruffynerfherder: Wasn't trying to troll.

So, it's clinical then?

if you need to believe that to make you feel superior, go ahead.
 
2013-06-30 03:31:11 AM  

scruffynerfherder: thamike: scruffynerfherder: Wasn't trying to troll.

So, it's clinical then?
if you need to believe that to make you feel superior, go ahead.


Maybe we just need to grow on each other. You know, like a symbiosis based entirely on inferiority complexes and meted out in a painfully piecemeal process that involves other people who regret ever becoming acquainted with us in the first place.  Every once in awhile I will do this:

tn3-2.deviantart.com

In which case you may do this:

fc08.deviantart.net


Then you can f*ck off.
 
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