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2013-06-28 02:01:10 PM
You'd think that they would have mentioned dinosaurs somewhere in the Bible.

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2013-06-28 02:01:21 PM

Time for this year's Creationism Follies


Sciencedammit, why isn't this on my calendar?

*pouts*
 
2013-06-28 02:02:11 PM
Hitler lost WW2 / Were you there?!
 
2013-06-28 02:05:58 PM

leonel: Hitler lost WW2 / Were you there?!


*snerk*

"God says we should burn witches!"
"Oh yeah? Were you there when he said it?"
"He wrote it in the Bible!!"
"Where you there when he WROTE IT?"
 
2013-06-28 02:07:59 PM
I salute the author's writing on that, and bringing this all to attention.  But I couldn't bring myself to read the whole thing.  This is only because the amount of stupidity being told of there was starting to make me a little sick.

If anyone ever sat next to me on a park bench and started spouting that sort of nonsense, I would just have to simply tell them to fark off, and walk away.
 
2013-06-28 02:08:32 PM
The Earth is billions of years old.  This is demonstrate by a few differ...
Were you there?
Yes
Nuh uh
Sure was.  Were you there to see I wasn't?
I am a babbling moron who actually believes creationist bullshiat, invented by the poster help establish how incredibly stupid my damned argument is.
 
2013-06-28 02:09:18 PM
God's Gospel Lizards is my new band name.
 
2013-06-28 02:09:34 PM

sandbar67: You'd think that they would have mentioned dinosaurs somewhere in the Bible.

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Nah, too busy with four-faced fire-sword wielding angels and chariots of fire and heavenly choruses and sticks eating each other and rivers gushing out of boulders and turning water into blood and people communing with spirits and talking donkeys (as opposed to religious folks these days simply talking out of their asses) and 40-day fasts in the desert and causing trees to wither with the power of thought and purpose-built man-eating fish and horns of holy light emanating from prophets' heads.

My point is that the Bible is very clearly not a scientific work, so we can safely disregard even the things it got right.

// and taxonomically, the Bible lumps shellfish (bivalves, mollusks, crustaceans, etc) in with "fish", and lizards/snakes with cows ("land animals")
 
2013-06-28 02:11:19 PM
I thought this masturbatory, atheist, dead-horse beating was what Reddit was for.
 
2013-06-28 02:15:05 PM
Were you there?

No but the pope says Dinosaurs are real, and Evolution is correct.

The Pope is not a true Christian.

/Don't know what the Pope believes but I know Jesuits teach Evolution.
 
2013-06-28 02:16:45 PM

amazing_live_seamonkeys: I thought this masturbatory, atheist, dead-horse beating was what Reddit was for.


You may be tired of hearing about it but its still a real problem if this sort of nonsense is being taught in schools. Trying to pass this stuff as a legitimate education is offensive
 
2013-06-28 02:17:26 PM
This thread again?

images3.wikia.nocookie.net

/it's my birthday
//no time for this crap again
///peace, people
 
2013-06-28 02:19:28 PM
I really have never understood why fundamentalists see science as a threat to their faith.  Is it really that hard to accept the stories of Creation as a "rough guess" kind of thing?  The important thing to believe, if you're in to a religion, is that there is a cognitive force and reason behind existence.  The idea that we're simply able to explore more of our existence than they had 4000 years ago should not be something to be rejected.  Using the abilities that were imbued to you by the thing that created you, again if you're in to that, to discover more about the world in which you were placed should bolster your faith not retard it.
I do know that there are some pretty set-in-stone rules about bearing false witness that is a big no-no by the big guy.
I think the best thing that could happen to fundamentalist is a reading comprehension and literary theory class.  Not all stories are literal.
 
2013-06-28 02:19:30 PM
Theotards.
 
2013-06-28 02:23:03 PM
I am a firm believer in the literal interpretation of the Bible.  Particularly where it pertains to the following:

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www.demotivationalposters.org
 
2013-06-28 02:25:57 PM

DubtodaIll: I really have never understood why fundamentalists see science as a threat to their faith.



Because reason, logic, and critical thought are absolutely poisonous to religious faith.  At least people like Ken Ham are being honest when they claim that if any part of the bible is invalidated, it call into serious question if any of the rest is true.  Most other christians just ignore the obviously nonsense parts of the bible, and cherry pick the parts they agree with.
 
2013-06-28 02:27:22 PM
If hell is a real place, it's littered with creationist museums and Satan is having a tea with Jerry Falwell.
 
2013-06-28 02:27:39 PM
I miss you-know-who.
 
2013-06-28 02:29:04 PM
6 inches of rain per minute, worldwide, over a period of forty days. Sea level increasing by an inch every ten seconds.

Two of every creature -- including ants and anteaters; penguins, platypi and poison dart frogs; ocelots, panthers and possum; Iriomote cats, Komodo dragons and Monitor lizards; lions and tigers and bears (oh my!); African elephants, Asian elephants and South American three-toed sloths -- on board a ship built by an old guy and his three sons. A ship as tall, as long and half as wide as a small football stadium, made entirely out of wood. Plus 40 days' worth of food for everyone.

Those creatures were able to be herded onto the ship despite the general majority of them not living within walking distance of the old man's house or drydock.

The menagerie and the ship were maintained by the old guy, his wife, his sons and their wives for over a month and a half -- a team of eight people without a day of zoological, nautical or shipbuilding experience between them, living in a time when four of them could not even get any such experience in the first place.


And some people believe that a pile of used lumber on top of a mountain in Turkey is all the evidence they need to prove that this is all true (but nobody's allowed to check the lumber to see how old it is or even verify that there is a ship's keel and/or hull on top of the mountain); and somehow, the unverifiable existence of this lumber is proof that the theory of evolution by natural selection is wrong, that Christianity is the "correct" religion and that the universe and earth are 6,000 years old and not billions or dozens of billions of years old.
 
2013-06-28 02:32:42 PM

durbnpoisn: starting to make me a little sick


For real.  My stomach gets queazy from reading shiat like this.  Maybe it's some anger-turned-inward effect; though I strongly suspect that my anger turned outward would most likely mean jail time.
 
2013-06-28 02:33:29 PM
Thank goodness I wasn't ever exposed to this kind of organized ignorance in the classroom.

Oh, you bet twelve-year old me would have been kicked out of the "Creation Museum" or been bodily dragged yelling and screaming to the principal's office had someone started talking that kind of foolishness in a classroom. This has been wildly inappropriate in schools for the last century, at least.

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2013-06-28 02:34:03 PM

Kali-Yuga: DubtodaIll: I really have never understood why fundamentalists see science as a threat to their faith.


Because reason, logic, and critical thought are absolutely poisonous to religious faith.  At least people like Ken Ham are being honest when they claim that if any part of the bible is invalidated, it call into serious question if any of the rest is true.  Most other christians just ignore the obviously nonsense parts of the bible, and cherry pick the parts they agree with.


I don't see how the entire book gets invalidated because there's not exact detail about everything that's happened.  It's not a history book, it's a book to guide you on how to live your life.  And it's easy to take plenty of things out of context but the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future.  Use the capacity for reason that you were given to make wise and just decisions.   I don't see how that's not a more attractive and true doctrine than "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."
 
2013-06-28 02:35:02 PM

hardinparamedic: If hell is a real place, it's littered with creationist museums and Satan is having a tea with Jerry Falwell.


There was a quote in one of yesterday's threads that stuck with me; If I owned hell and Texas I would rent Texas out and live in hell
 
2013-06-28 02:35:12 PM

DubtodaIll: I really have never understood why fundamentalists see science as a threat to their faith.


They're all in.  They can't stop thinking that way now.  It would demonstrate proof of evolution.
 
2013-06-28 02:41:59 PM

DubtodaIll: Kali-Yuga: DubtodaIll: I really have never understood why fundamentalists see science as a threat to their faith.


Because reason, logic, and critical thought are absolutely poisonous to religious faith.  At least people like Ken Ham are being honest when they claim that if any part of the bible is invalidated, it call into serious question if any of the rest is true.  Most other christians just ignore the obviously nonsense parts of the bible, and cherry pick the parts they agree with.

I don't see how the entire book gets invalidated because there's not exact detail about everything that's happened.  It's not a history book, it's a book to guide you on how to live your life.  And it's easy to take plenty of things out of context but the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future.  Use the capacity for reason that you were given to make wise and just decisions.   I don't see how that's not a more attractive and true doctrine than "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."


Fundamentalists believe the book is literally divine. It was written by God himself and they quote scripture the way a wizard would say an incantation. (pointing out that actual mortal men authored the various books will only get you a response of, "God  inspired their writing so it was actually God writing it".) They believe it's a history book and much, much more. They believe that taking each verse as anything less than absolutely literal is akin to blasphemy.
 
2013-06-28 02:42:21 PM
Time for the roaches to have a turn.
 
2013-06-28 02:42:43 PM

kid_icarus: DubtodaIll: Kali-Yuga: DubtodaIll: I really have never understood why fundamentalists see science as a threat to their faith.


Because reason, logic, and critical thought are absolutely poisonous to religious faith.  At least people like Ken Ham are being honest when they claim that if any part of the bible is invalidated, it call into serious question if any of the rest is true.  Most other christians just ignore the obviously nonsense parts of the bible, and cherry pick the parts they agree with.

I don't see how the entire book gets invalidated because there's not exact detail about everything that's happened.  It's not a history book, it's a book to guide you on how to live your life.  And it's easy to take plenty of things out of context but the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future.  Use the capacity for reason that you were given to make wise and just decisions.   I don't see how that's not a more attractive and true doctrine than "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."

Fundamentalists believe the book is literally divine. It was written by God himself and they quote scripture the way a wizard would say an incantation. (pointing out that actual mortal men authored the various books will only get you a response of, "God  inspired their writing so it was actually God writing it".) They believe it's a history book and much, much more. They believe that taking each verse as anything less than absolutely literal is akin to blasphemy.


Man, it's like they're stupid or something.
 
2013-06-28 02:43:54 PM
DubtodaIll:
I don't see how the entire book gets invalidated because there's not exact detail about everything that's happened.  It's not a history book, it's a book to guide you on how to live your life.  And it's easy to take plenty of things out of context but the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future.  Use the capacity for reason that you were given to make wise and just decisions.   I don't see how that's not a more attractive and true doctrine than "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."

Because the bible makes truth claims, and claims to be a non-fiction book.  The absolute minimum threshold for truth is logical consistency, and the bible is full of paradoxes, contradictions and patently absurd impossibilities. If i were reading any other book that claims to be non-fiction and find it full of errors, yes, the entire book would be invalidated, or at least called into serious question.

Your statement alone is a prime example cherry picking the jesusy portions of the bible to back up your claim of "the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future."  and ignoring the portions that do indeed say "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."
 
2013-06-28 02:46:46 PM

Kali-Yuga: DubtodaIll:
I don't see how the entire book gets invalidated because there's not exact detail about everything that's happened.  It's not a history book, it's a book to guide you on how to live your life.  And it's easy to take plenty of things out of context but the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future.  Use the capacity for reason that you were given to make wise and just decisions.   I don't see how that's not a more attractive and true doctrine than "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."

Because the bible makes truth claims, and claims to be a non-fiction book.  The absolute minimum threshold for truth is logical consistency, and the bible is full of paradoxes, contradictions and patently absurd impossibilities. If i were reading any other book that claims to be non-fiction and find it full of errors, yes, the entire book would be invalidated, or at least called into serious question.

Your statement alone is a prime example cherry picking the jesusy portions of the bible to back up your claim of "the basic gist of the whole thing is to treat everyone fairly and don't give in to your base desires and instincts as they only satisfy you for that moment and usually bring you more pain in the future."  and ignoring the portions that do indeed say "do everything by the letter or you'll burn in hell for eternity."


I don't know if I've ever met an Atheistic Fundamentalist before.
 
2013-06-28 02:50:25 PM
I've heard that wind and currents can sort left shoes from right shoes but I am amazed that the Great Flood managed to sort alternating layers of seashells and volcanic ash in such a way that new species, barely distinguishable from the species of the next lower layer, are grouped in a sort of strobe-light history of evolution.

How does a Great Flood deposit air-born and air-borne ash and pumice in smooth horizontal layers at all, often complete with appropriate bones and footprints, seeing as they both float on water? And how did the Great Flood sort out all the fossils, regardless of the laws of physics, by habitat and genus and species rather than by size, weight, shape or other factors which determine how they would settle out of water?

And then there's the question of water:  manifestly, not all things survive immersion in water, so how come we have fossils of those things if they were laid down by the Great Flood?

How many Great Floods were there, by the way? The fossel record consists of innumerable strata, many of which clearly had nothing to do with floods, such as fossil deserts and fossil forest floors.

And what about animal tracks? In fossil deserts we have the tracks of side-winding snakes; in fossil forests, the tracks of animals walking through mud; in fossil coral reefs, the marks made by fish and crabs on the seafloor. How did roiling muddy flood waters create or preserve all of these? Every species in its proper habitat except, of course those that were washed away by floods or rivers and deposited in the fossil mudbanks and sandbanks and fossil continental shelf slope?

My, oh my, the Flood Theory raises so many unanswered and unanswerable objections and questions. I have half a mind to abandon it for obvious facts and incontrovertible logic.
 
2013-06-28 02:53:54 PM

brantgoose: I've heard that wind and currents can sort left shoes from right shoes but I am amazed that the Great Flood managed to sort alternating layers of seashells and volcanic ash in such a way that new species, barely distinguishable from the species of the next lower layer, are grouped in a sort of strobe-light history of evolution.

How does a Great Flood deposit air-born and air-borne ash and pumice in smooth horizontal layers at all, often complete with appropriate bones and footprints, seeing as they both float on water? And how did the Great Flood sort out all the fossils, regardless of the laws of physics, by habitat and genus and species rather than by size, weight, shape or other factors which determine how they would settle out of water?

And then there's the question of water:  manifestly, not all things survive immersion in water, so how come we have fossils of those things if they were laid down by the Great Flood?

How many Great Floods were there, by the way? The fossel record consists of innumerable strata, many of which clearly had nothing to do with floods, such as fossil deserts and fossil forest floors.

And what about animal tracks? In fossil deserts we have the tracks of side-winding snakes; in fossil forests, the tracks of animals walking through mud; in fossil coral reefs, the marks made by fish and crabs on the seafloor. How did roiling muddy flood waters create or preserve all of these? Every species in its proper habitat except, of course those that were washed away by floods or rivers and deposited in the fossil mudbanks and sandbanks and fossil continental shelf slope?

My, oh my, the Flood Theory raises so many unanswered and unanswerable objections and questions. I have half a mind to abandon it for obvious facts and incontrovertible logic.


Plants.

They never mention plans. Or crops. No mention of corn/maize, I don't know if rice was ever mentioned in the Christian Bible or the Torah.

Or insects, how many non-flying insects are there? Spiders? There are 34 THOUSAND differing species of spiders. The Ark would have been one giant floating Nope.
 
2013-06-28 02:54:36 PM
You're a funny lot. Looking forward to hearing all your screams in Hell from mine comfy chair up in Heaven.
 
2013-06-28 02:55:57 PM

Charlie Chingas: You're a funny lot. Looking forward to hearing all your screams in Hell from mine comfy chair up in Heaven.


Screams of pleasure, maybe :D
 
2013-06-28 02:56:04 PM
My rage is spent on this topic.  Now it just profound sadness that we are still teaching our children lies so a few stuffy old men can continue to bilk their congregations out of millions.

Here a pic that makes me feel better.

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2013-06-28 02:57:38 PM

amazing_live_seamonkeys: I thought this masturbatory, atheist, dead-horse beating was what Reddit was for.


You do realize that you don't have to be an atheist to do real science or find creationism ridiculous, right?
 
2013-06-28 02:58:49 PM

King Something: Two of every creature -- including ants and anteaters; penguins, platypi and poison dart frogs; ocelots, panthers and possum; Iriomote cats, Komodo dragons and Monitor lizards; lions and tigers and bears (oh my!); African elephants, Asian elephants and South American three-toed sloths -- on board a ship built by an old guy and his three sons. A ship as tall, as long and half as wide as a small football stadium, made entirely out of wood. Plus 40 days' worth of food for everyone.


Two(one male, one female) of every unclean animal, 14 (seven male, seven female) of every clean.

They can't even get their own stories right.
 
2013-06-28 02:59:04 PM

brantgoose: I have half a mind


When speaking of a great flood, I would think instead you'd have a notion.
 
2013-06-28 03:00:03 PM

Charlie Chingas: You're a funny lot. Looking forward to hearing all your screams in Hell from mine comfy chair up in Heaven.


Dude...  I don't know how to break it to you, but...  well...  what you've stated above is considered blasphemy and unpardonable, and well..  I hate to be the one to tell you this, but I'll see you in hell, brother.

Don't blame me, man.  I didn't make the rules.
 
2013-06-28 03:01:25 PM
Vodka Zombie:

You do realize that you don't have to be an atheist to do real science or find creationism ridiculous, right?

But if you aren't, you get to deal with the cognitive dissonance of holding both irrational and rational beliefs, and have to compartmentalize your religious beliefs so the critical thinking skills you use to do "real science" don't ever get applied to your religious delusions.
 
2013-06-28 03:04:08 PM

Kali-Yuga: Vodka Zombie:

You do realize that you don't have to be an atheist to do real science or find creationism ridiculous, right?

But if you aren't, you get to deal with the cognitive dissonance of holding both irrational and rational beliefs, and have to compartmentalize your religious beliefs so the critical thinking skills you use to do "real science" don't ever get applied to your religious delusions.


Which isn't that hard for an adult.
 
2013-06-28 03:05:52 PM

Kali-Yuga: Vodka Zombie:

You do realize that you don't have to be an atheist to do real science or find creationism ridiculous, right?

But if you aren't, you get to deal with the cognitive dissonance of holding both irrational and rational beliefs, and have to compartmentalize your religious beliefs so the critical thinking skills you use to do "real science" don't ever get applied to your religious delusions.


Read this please
 
2013-06-28 03:06:47 PM

meat0918: King Something: Two of every creature -- including ants and anteaters; penguins, platypi and poison dart frogs; ocelots, panthers and possum; Iriomote cats, Komodo dragons and Monitor lizards; lions and tigers and bears (oh my!); African elephants, Asian elephants and South American three-toed sloths -- on board a ship built by an old guy and his three sons. A ship as tall, as long and half as wide as a small football stadium, made entirely out of wood. Plus 40 days' worth of food for everyone.

Two(one male, one female) of every unclean animal, 14 (seven male, seven female) of every clean.

They can't even get their own stories right.


And how...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CccaGaKOlSI

Vodka Zombie: Charlie Chingas: You're a funny lot. Looking forward to hearing all your screams in Hell from mine comfy chair up in Heaven.

Dude... I don't know how to break it to you, but... well... what you've stated above is considered blasphemy and unpardonable, and well.. I hate to be the one to tell you this, but I'll see you in hell, brother.

Don't blame me, man. I didn't make the rules.


But, but. Prayer will save me! And you! Let's pray together.

/don't mind the jar of Crisco...
 
2013-06-28 03:07:18 PM

Charlie Chingas: You're a funny lot. Looking forward to hearing all your screams in Hell from mine comfy chair up in Heaven.


Well that's not a very Christian thing to say*

*in theory
 
2013-06-28 03:09:01 PM
i105.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-28 03:11:20 PM

tblax: Charlie Chingas: You're a funny lot. Looking forward to hearing all your screams in Hell from mine comfy chair up in Heaven.

Well that's not a very Christian thing to say*

*in theory

Sigh...

cdn.iwastesomuchtime.com
 
2013-06-28 03:13:51 PM
Creationism is still a thing?
 
2013-06-28 03:16:18 PM

King Something: 6 inches of rain per minute, worldwide, over a period of forty days. Sea level increasing by an inch every ten seconds.

Two of every creature -- including ants and anteaters; penguins, platypi and poison dart frogs; ocelots, panthers and possum; Iriomote cats, Komodo dragons and Monitor lizards; lions and tigers and bears (oh my!); African elephants, Asian elephants and South American three-toed sloths -- on board a ship built by an old guy and his three sons. A ship as tall, as long and half as wide as a small football stadium, made entirely out of wood. Plus 40 days' worth of food for everyone.

Those creatures were able to be herded onto the ship despite the general majority of them not living within walking distance of the old man's house or drydock.

The menagerie and the ship were maintained by the old guy, his wife, his sons and their wives for over a month and a half -- a team of eight people without a day of zoological, nautical or shipbuilding experience between them, living in a time when four of them could not even get any such experience in the first place.


And some people believe that a pile of used lumber on top of a mountain in Turkey is all the evidence they need to prove that this is all true (but nobody's allowed to check the lumber to see how old it is or even verify that there is a ship's keel and/or hull on top of the mountain); and somehow, the unverifiable existence of this lumber is proof that the theory of evolution by natural selection is wrong, that Christianity is the "correct" religion and that the universe and earth are 6,000 years old and not billions or dozens of billions of years old.


THIS REALLY HONKS ME OFF: Nobody ever gets this right. It's not 2 of every creature it's:
"Of every clean beast you shall take to you by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female." Genesis 7:2

So take your original calculations and START MULTIPLYING!
 
2013-06-28 03:25:42 PM

zetar: King Something: 6 inches of rain per minute, worldwide, over a period of forty days. Sea level increasing by an inch every ten seconds.

Two of every creature -- including ants and anteaters; penguins, platypi and poison dart frogs; ocelots, panthers and possum; Iriomote cats, Komodo dragons and Monitor lizards; lions and tigers and bears (oh my!); African elephants, Asian elephants and South American three-toed sloths -- on board a ship built by an old guy and his three sons. A ship as tall, as long and half as wide as a small football stadium, made entirely out of wood. Plus 40 days' worth of food for everyone.

Those creatures were able to be herded onto the ship despite the general majority of them not living within walking distance of the old man's house or drydock.

The menagerie and the ship were maintained by the old guy, his wife, his sons and their wives for over a month and a half -- a team of eight people without a day of zoological, nautical or shipbuilding experience between them, living in a time when four of them could not even get any such experience in the first place.


And some people believe that a pile of used lumber on top of a mountain in Turkey is all the evidence they need to prove that this is all true (but nobody's allowed to check the lumber to see how old it is or even verify that there is a ship's keel and/or hull on top of the mountain); and somehow, the unverifiable existence of this lumber is proof that the theory of evolution by natural selection is wrong, that Christianity is the "correct" religion and that the universe and earth are 6,000 years old and not billions or dozens of billions of years old.

THIS REALLY HONKS ME OFF: Nobody ever gets this right. It's not 2 of every creature it's:
"Of every clean beast you shall take to you by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female." Genesis 7:2

So take your original calculations and START MULTIPLYING!


Still doesn't make it true...
 
2013-06-28 03:28:36 PM

Charlie Chingas: zetar: King Something: 6 inches of rain per minute, worldwide, over a period of forty days. Sea level increasing by an inch every ten seconds.

Two of every creature -- including ants and anteaters; penguins, platypi and poison dart frogs; ocelots, panthers and possum; Iriomote cats, Komodo dragons and Monitor lizards; lions and tigers and bears (oh my!); African elephants, Asian elephants and South American three-toed sloths -- on board a ship built by an old guy and his three sons. A ship as tall, as long and half as wide as a small football stadium, made entirely out of wood. Plus 40 days' worth of food for everyone.

Those creatures were able to be herded onto the ship despite the general majority of them not living within walking distance of the old man's house or drydock.

The menagerie and the ship were maintained by the old guy, his wife, his sons and their wives for over a month and a half -- a team of eight people without a day of zoological, nautical or shipbuilding experience between them, living in a time when four of them could not even get any such experience in the first place.


And some people believe that a pile of used lumber on top of a mountain in Turkey is all the evidence they need to prove that this is all true (but nobody's allowed to check the lumber to see how old it is or even verify that there is a ship's keel and/or hull on top of the mountain); and somehow, the unverifiable existence of this lumber is proof that the theory of evolution by natural selection is wrong, that Christianity is the "correct" religion and that the universe and earth are 6,000 years old and not billions or dozens of billions of years old.

THIS REALLY HONKS ME OFF: Nobody ever gets this right. It's not 2 of every creature it's:
"Of every clean beast you shall take to you by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female." Genesis 7:2

So take your original calculations and START MULTIPLYING!

Still doesn't make it true...


I don't think that was the point
 
2013-06-28 03:35:38 PM
Aidan:
"He wrote it in the Bible!!"
"Where you there when he WROTE IT?"


Worth repeating any time someone tries to quote the bible for any kind of justification.
 
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