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(Washington Post)   NSA head sends memo to employees, urging them not to be distracted from their vital and honorable work of spying on the American people   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 15
    More: Misc, NSA, memoranda, personnel management, Government Accountability Project, secret documents, Office of Personnel Management  
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2013-06-28 12:03:02 PM  
4 votes:
www.washingtonpost.com
"Butter would not melt in my mouth."
2013-06-28 12:07:21 PM  
3 votes:
Wait a minute...

i288.photobucket.com
2013-06-28 01:14:47 PM  
2 votes:
Whatever it takes to stop the terrorists
2013-06-28 12:53:04 PM  
2 votes:

Marcus Aurelius: [www.washingtonpost.com image 606x404]
"Butter would not melt in my mouth."


Didn't he crash two planes over Albuquerque?
2013-06-28 11:18:39 AM  
2 votes:
Also says quit reading Fark while on the clock.
2013-06-28 11:13:20 AM  
2 votes:
The full text of his speech is here:  http://www.nsa.gov/public_info/speeches_testimonies/25jun13_dir.shtml . I've already found about 26 hidden messages in it.
2013-06-28 01:35:17 PM  
1 votes:
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2013-06-28 01:35:03 PM  
1 votes:
And here there were those who thought Obama would turn the USA into the USSR...pshaaaaw!
2013-06-28 01:24:01 PM  
1 votes:
My email is down so I didn't get my talking points... am I supposed to be angry because of this domestic spying, or defensive because it is during Obama's term?
2013-06-28 01:15:53 PM  
1 votes:

Nem Wan: You're incorrect.
Fisa court oversight: a look inside a secret and empty process
The top secret rules that allow NSA to use US data without a warrant


Again, there is an argument to whether or not the current FISA rules are appropriate or even Constitutional.  It feels to me that they have granted over-broad discretion to the NSA.  However, executive branch directed surveillance, when it involves US persons, is subject to laws written by the Legislative branch and overseen by the Judicial branch.

It appears that you have a problem with one of the three independent branches of the government being laxer in their interpretation of the 4th Amendment than you would like.  But this is certainly not the case of the executive operating illegal spying, at least as under the applicable laws and oversight.
2013-06-28 01:14:28 PM  
1 votes:
hasty ambush:
I have no problem with a government that spies on foreigners, other governments (even "allies"), external threats etc. . If fact I expect them to do that an would consider them negligent if they did not do so.
It is the domestic spying absent probable cause and warrants I have a problem with.



But you do acknowledge that some of the people who intend to do harm to the US are actually in the US, legally, and are regularly communicating with accomplices and handlers outside of the US, right?

How do you propose that the governement maintain awareness of those threats, which seem much more relavant than what some foreigner on another continent is doing?
2013-06-28 12:57:48 PM  
1 votes:
One day, a Republican will be President again, and NSA spying will be fine.
2013-06-28 12:53:39 PM  
1 votes:
I highly encourage all American citizens to piss on the NSA, DHS, and TSA, literally, and figuratively at any chance.
2013-06-28 12:46:41 PM  
1 votes:

Pocket Ninja: The full text of his speech is here:  http://www.nsa.gov...


Nice try, NSA.
2013-06-28 12:44:11 PM  
1 votes:

deanis: Before this "scandal", what did people think the NSA actually did? What's it like living under those rocks?


well back when i was naive
i thought they spied on the "bad" people

but i find that includes most of the population
 
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