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(Washington Post)   New Yorker cover suggests Bert and Ernie are gay. In other news, the Washington Post thinks this is news   (washingtonpost.com) divider line 285
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2013-06-28 10:56:19 AM  
And I'm sure Sesame Street would love to be dragged into this.

If they had suggested that Bert & Ernie were gay, then this could work, but they've vehemently denied it since day one.
 
2013-06-28 11:03:15 AM  
I even figured out they were gay when I was 5.
 
2013-06-28 11:12:21 AM  
They are not gay. How do I know?

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Look at their shirts. No gay couple would leave the house together dressed like that.
Also, Bert's unibrow? Hell no. Any self respecting gay man has his eyebrows threaded
 
2013-06-28 11:21:56 AM  
Seems legit.

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2013-06-28 11:28:41 AM  
Oh, FFS
 
2013-06-28 11:36:50 AM  
They are not gay.  Puppets don't have genitals

/Grover, however, is a scatophage
 
2013-06-28 11:41:02 AM  
I remember thinking as a kid that they were Siskel and Ebert.

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2013-06-28 11:46:06 AM  
Meh. And I'm sure PBS and Sesame Street are gonna be thrilled that they're going to get dragged into this. I can only imagine all the BS they're going to be subjected to by the rubes for this


www.newyorker.com
 
2013-06-28 12:00:12 PM  
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2013-06-28 12:01:05 PM  
They a puppets on a kids show.
 
2013-06-28 12:01:52 PM  
But the Washington Times is offering a group wedding rate for 1000 or more couples.
 
2013-06-28 12:02:03 PM  
Why do they have to drag Sesame street into all this?  Can't they just be puppets?

Classless Asshats.
 
2013-06-28 12:05:59 PM  

2 grams: Why do they have to drag Sesame street into all this?  Can't they just be puppets?

Classless Asshats.


No because all the reporters want pulitzers to bring meaning to their waste of a career; so everything becomes 'news'
 
2013-06-28 12:06:52 PM  

Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.


They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.
 
2013-06-28 12:06:59 PM  

Il Douchey: They are not gay.  Puppets don't have genitals

/Grover, however, is a scatophage


Oscar has some serious issues too, but seriously FFS leave innocent children's educational programming out of it.
 
2013-06-28 12:07:23 PM  
Didn't even Jim Henson himself say they weren't gay, they're puppets years ago? Good god, N'yakker, go find some other lake to troll today.
 
2013-06-28 12:08:08 PM  
They're puppets. On a show for children. They don't have a sexual relationship, so gay or straight really doesn't enter into it. Seriously, people, can't they just be friends?

In any case, why don't people focus on Big Bird and Snuffleupagus for a change? Sheesh.
 
2013-06-28 12:09:14 PM  

darkedgefan: Didn't Family Guy already do this? Showed Bert and Ernie waking up next to each other? That was from 1999.

Of course they are both little pillow biters.


they did, Homicide:Life on Sesame Street - Ernie wished Bert wouldn't drink so much and Bert demanded Ernie not eat cookies in bed.
 
2013-06-28 12:09:15 PM  
They are not gay, they are stoners.
 
2013-06-28 12:09:18 PM  
Is this what Rand Paul meant by marrying non-humans?

So... Red from Fraggle Rock is available?

/you know she'd be awesome in bed.
 
2013-06-28 12:09:43 PM  
It's true....


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2013-06-28 12:09:48 PM  
I always assumed they were brothers.
 
2013-06-28 12:10:02 PM  
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2013-06-28 12:10:33 PM  
Aah, an afternoon alone with my favorite book, "Broadway Musicals of the 1940s."
 
2013-06-28 12:10:38 PM  

WippitGuud: Is this what Rand Paul meant by marrying non-humans?


www.explosm.net
 
2013-06-28 12:11:10 PM  
Damn... why does everything have to be gay lol
 
2013-06-28 12:11:39 PM  

Walker: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.


Since when?
 
2013-06-28 12:11:40 PM  
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2013-06-28 12:11:46 PM  
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2013-06-28 12:12:16 PM  

Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.


I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.
 
2013-06-28 12:12:44 PM  

RoyHobbs22: Il Douchey: They are not gay.  Puppets don't have genitals

/Grover, however, is a scatophage

Oscar has some serious issues too, but seriously FFS leave innocent children's educational programming out of it.


Might as well say Animal has OCD, ADD and serious mental issues, while were applying conditions and illnesses to kid's shows, cuz that's what adults do best. Oh and bomb Emerald City, accuse the Big Bad wolf of domestic violence, murder and rape and what the hell....set the Enchanted Forest on fire and blame it on arson by some emo kid that lives in a castle. If you're going to wreck children's stories, might as wreck them all. Oh and, Dorothy? It was a setup. The "good" witch was really just a jealous whore. The "bad" witch is innocent and was the sucker in a gangland execution with Dorothy as the fall guy.
 
2013-06-28 12:12:48 PM  

2 grams: Why do they have to drag Sesame street into all this?  Can't they just be puppets?

Classless Asshats.


^This.

None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

Little children - and the ones who watch Sesame St are very young kids - do not bother, nor are they particularly aware of sexual orientation; they're brains too busy figuring out a bunch of other stuff.  It's only the adults on all sides who obsess about who's "farking" whom on a children's t.v. show, and I don't know whether that's sad or ridiculous.
 
2013-06-28 12:12:53 PM  
They are brothers. Gay stoner brothers with no knobs.
 
2013-06-28 12:13:13 PM  
One thousand years from now, there won't be any guys and there won't be any girls, just wankers.  Sounds all right to me.
 
2013-06-28 12:14:40 PM  
I am sure the 3 conservatives who read the New Yorker will cancel their subscription.
 
2013-06-28 12:16:41 PM  
 
2013-06-28 12:16:42 PM  
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I think its wonderful that Ernie stayed with Bert even though Bert has jaundice.
 
2013-06-28 12:17:18 PM  
ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.
 
2013-06-28 12:17:19 PM  
 I don't remember the last time I bought a magazine, but they're 7 bucks now? Wow.
 
2013-06-28 12:17:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: And I'm sure Sesame Street would love to be dragged into this.

If they had suggested that Bert & Ernie were gay, then this could work, but they've vehemently denied it since day one.


Dude, they are gay icons. It's not Sesame Street that "made" them gay, its the public (particularly homosexuals) who are watching it and "decided" that. Wizard of Oz has no homosexuality in it, but everyone understands what one means by saying someone is a "friend of Dorothy" as it is a cult classic in the LGBT community.
 
2013-06-28 12:17:54 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: Didn't even Jim Henson himself say they weren't gay, they're puppets years ago? Good god, N'yakker, go find some other lake to troll today.


Do lakes have trolls? I thought they just had watery tarts.
 
2013-06-28 12:18:26 PM  
This is bullshiat. Everyone knows B&E are casino owners. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NShgvtEro7I
 
2013-06-28 12:18:32 PM  

To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.


But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?
 
2013-06-28 12:19:17 PM  
This movie came out in 1968, and was extremely popular.
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Sesame Street (with a muppet cast led at that time by Bert & Ernie) premiered in 1969.
Are there seriously any more questions as to the inspiration and intention of Bert & Ernie???
 
2013-06-28 12:19:41 PM  

vernonFL: They are not gay. How do I know?

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Look at their shirts. No gay couple would leave the house together dressed like that.
Also, Bert's unibrow? Hell no. Any self respecting gay man has his eyebrows threaded


Ding. Ding. Ding.

Plus, the whole Bert and Ernie gay scenario has already been beaten to death for decades. Give it a rest, folks, sometimes a kids show is just a kids show.
 
2013-06-28 12:20:30 PM  
Walker

Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.


Those two were never in question.
 
2013-06-28 12:20:47 PM  

scottydoesntknow: But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?


To dry off?
 
2013-06-28 12:20:55 PM  

vernonFL: They are not gay. How do I know?

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 259x194]

Look at their shirts. No gay couple would leave the house together dressed like that.
Also, Bert's unibrow? Hell no. Any self respecting gay man has his eyebrows threaded


They look like every lesbian couple I've ever seen... including the shirts and uni-brow.
 
2013-06-28 12:21:19 PM  
 
2013-06-28 12:21:20 PM  
this is crap, I can't imagine anyone would find this interesting or newsworthy
I live with my best pal and I rarely gargle his privates
 
2013-06-28 12:21:35 PM  

Lollipop165: scottydoesntknow: And I'm sure Sesame Street would love to be dragged into this.

If they had suggested that Bert & Ernie were gay, then this could work, but they've vehemently denied it since day one.

Dude, they are gay icons. It's not Sesame Street that "made" them gay, its the public (particularly homosexuals) who are watching it and "decided" that. Wizard of Oz has no homosexuality in it, but everyone understands what one means by saying someone is a "friend of Dorothy" as it is a cult classic in the LGBT community.


It doesn't matter if they're gay icons or not. The show has said they are not gay and that should be reason enough to NOT drag them into this debate.
 
2013-06-28 12:22:08 PM  

fanbladesaresharp: This is bullshiat. Everyone knows B&E are casino owners. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NShgvtEro7I


I didn't know Bert was Jewish.
 
2013-06-28 12:22:27 PM  
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2013-06-28 12:22:41 PM  

scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?


Warm water gives him erections
 
2013-06-28 12:23:15 PM  
 
2013-06-28 12:23:21 PM  
My 5 year old is going to hit the ceiling when he gets his next issue of The New Yorker in the mail - serves him right for being such a conservative douchebag.
 
2013-06-28 12:24:26 PM  
My favorite Ernie bit is that he is always perturbed at being interrupted from reading some ridiculously esoteric book about pigeons or how to cook oatmeal.
 
2013-06-28 12:25:27 PM  

scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?


You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?
 
2013-06-28 12:25:46 PM  

studebaker hoch: Walker

Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.

Those two were never in question.


"Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."
 
2013-06-28 12:26:00 PM  
In other hard hitting news ABC asks the Q, what happens to British royalty dog once their baby is born.

This is why I come here... It's all so riveting!
 
2013-06-28 12:26:27 PM  

mike_d85: scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?


A dog exposed to a nuclear testing facility.
 
2013-06-28 12:26:39 PM  

mike_d85: scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?


A Mog.
 
2013-06-28 12:26:51 PM  

MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.


No. Many fictional characters are described as having a life outside the narrative, a life that occurred before, and goes on inbetween stories (as with Holmes, etc). There's often a lot of vaguery so that people can project onto the character and better identify with them/enjoy them/understand them.

If Sherlock were gay, for example, it wouldn't really matter. His love life is only really of interest to the speculation of Watson (and sometimes others) but it's made very clear in the stories that's all secondary to his pursuits of the mind blah blah blah. So if he were boning someone outside of the narrative we see, it has no impact on the stories themselves. Non issue not important...to the story, and to the reader's understanding of the story. If someone wants to imagine him as gay, or bisexual, or hetero, or asexual... I suppose one could make arguments for it, but again...doesn't matter what he is. It may matter to a reader, but doesnt change the stories.

Bert and Ernie are puppets. They are puppets in their world too. They do not have sexuality any more than little kids do. That's the entire point. They have said that from the beginning. Bert and Ernie aren't really adults. They're not really children. They are puppets. Elmo is childlike, and treated as a child puppet...even though we never see Elmo's parents. Even though Elmo appears to live alone (except for his goldfish, who I think is named Dorothy). Some of the puppets have gender (Bert and Ernie are males) but some aren't defined. I don't think Elmo is ever defined. Big Bird wasn't I don't think when I was a kid. And that's also cool.

I'm bisexual myself, and I really get the problem of invisibility in culture. Most movies feature hetero characters (and white characters). People want to identify with positive things, and Sesame Street is a huge part of our culture, and our childhoods. But one's sexual orientation isn't a deal for the age of kids watching the show. It can be for the adults they know and have in their lives, which is why the show has addressed that and other issues with their ADULT characters.

So no they're not gay they're not anything. That being said, I still enjoy the adult humor of implying they are. But it's an unintended adult subtext, nothing more.
 
2013-06-28 12:26:52 PM  

natas6.0: I rarely gargle his privates


You said "rarely".......so.......NTTAWWT
 
2013-06-28 12:27:11 PM  

Walker: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.


I thought Marcie had a crush on Charlie Brown and was to weakwilled to act on it.

/shipping is the enemy
 
2013-06-28 12:27:23 PM  

scottydoesntknow: Lollipop165: scottydoesntknow: And I'm sure Sesame Street would love to be dragged into this.

If they had suggested that Bert & Ernie were gay, then this could work, but they've vehemently denied it since day one.

Dude, they are gay icons. It's not Sesame Street that "made" them gay, its the public (particularly homosexuals) who are watching it and "decided" that. Wizard of Oz has no homosexuality in it, but everyone understands what one means by saying someone is a "friend of Dorothy" as it is a cult classic in the LGBT community.

It doesn't matter if they're gay icons or not. The show has said they are not gay and that should be reason enough to NOT drag them into this debate.


This isn't about Sesame Street's position on B&E, this is about the pubic's perception of B&E. It's symbolism.

Elephants aren't Republican and don't have any say in the political process. Why aren't you defending elephants from being associated with Republicans?
 
2013-06-28 12:28:48 PM  
I thought this was common thought.  Thought.
 
2013-06-28 12:28:56 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Walker: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.

I thought Marcie had a crush on Charlie Brown and was to weakwilled to act on it.

/shipping is the enemy


Bingo.
 
2013-06-28 12:29:22 PM  
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what what?
 
2013-06-28 12:29:23 PM  
So toddlers now have to have macho inaginary friends?
 
2013-06-28 12:29:28 PM  

BattleFrenchie28: Walker: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.

I thought Marcie had a crush on Charlie Brown and was to weakwilled to act on it.

/shipping is the enemy


I was under the impression when I was a kid that Peppermint Patty had a crush on him even though people would describe her as the most "butch". It always seemed to me like she was teasing Charlie in a way that said "I like you".
 
2013-06-28 12:29:29 PM  

Triumph: I remember thinking as a kid that they were Siskel and Ebert.

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That dynamic is older than mud, but it's usually called "the odd couple" after the 1965 play and the movie/TV series that followed it.  Two friends that like each other as much because of as in spite of being opposites in several major ways is a big running theme in modern (1960s+) literature, for obvious reasons.  If the civil rights movements  hadn't spawned some major tropes about getting along with different people it would have been pretty surreal.

The way Bert and Ernie are set up, if one of them was gay the other would have to be a fundie, because of how the dynamic is supposed to play out.

//Word of god is that they aren't gay, but this is the  reason they aren't written as gay.  That and if they were in a lovers' relationship all the hitting would stop being funny puppetry silliness and start being "making light of domestic abuse".
 
2013-06-28 12:29:38 PM  

natas6.0: this is crap, I can't imagine anyone would find this interesting or newsworthy
I live with my best pal and I rarely gargle his privates


So, you're Ernie?
 
2013-06-28 12:29:41 PM  
Telly was a sub
 
2013-06-28 12:30:03 PM  
They're g'damn puppets!
Their bodies end at the waist therefore they lack f**kable bits!
STOP SEXUALIZING BITS OF FELT, YOU PERVERTED FREAKS!
 
2013-06-28 12:30:55 PM  
Of course they're gay.  They're seriously into fisting--every time I see them on TV, they've got some puppeteer's hand up their butts.  And don't get me started on Oscar the Grouch and his predilection for German Scheisse videos.

And then there's Mother Goose.  Old Woman who lives in a shoe?  Welfare queen.  And then there's rumors that Little Boy Blue Jack Horner.  And Jack falling down and breaking his crown?  Actually, Jill is physically abusive.

And then there's the dysfunctional marriage between Snow White and the Prince--she gave birth to septuplets--Whiny, Screamy, Collicky, Poopy, Icky, Stinky, and Fred.  And the Prince sits on his damned La-Z-Throne all day drinking six-packs of cheap domestic ale and watching World Jousting Federation shows.
 
2013-06-28 12:30:57 PM  

brap: My favorite Ernie bit is that he is always perturbed at being interrupted from reading some ridiculously esoteric book about pigeons or how to cook oatmeal.


People with esoteric interests are gay about 99.4% of the time.
 
2013-06-28 12:31:00 PM  
You know, being roommates and that's all is perfectly normal.
 
2013-06-28 12:32:49 PM  
Prairie Dawn has a night job as a dominatrix
 
2013-06-28 12:33:04 PM  
Maybe they're just best friends.

NTTAWWT.
 
2013-06-28 12:33:06 PM  

Lollipop165: This isn't about Sesame Street's position on B&E, this is about the pubic's perception of B&E. It's symbolism.

Elephants aren't Republican and don't have any say in the political process. Why aren't you defending elephants from being associated with Republicans?


Elephants aren't a business trying to keep viewers watching. PBS/Sesame Street has both liberal and conservative viewers and they can't afford to lose any of them by being dragged into this.
 
2013-06-28 12:33:15 PM  
Even if Bert & Ernie are gay, who's to say they're together. They sleep in separate beds.
 
2013-06-28 12:33:26 PM  

oldfarthenry: They're g'damn puppets!
Their bodies end at the waist therefore they lack f**kable bits!
STOP SEXUALIZING BITS OF FELT, YOU PERVERTED FREAKS!


Tinky Winky!


/uh ohhhhh!
 
2013-06-28 12:33:39 PM  

mike_d85: scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?


He's what happens when you allow gays to marry.  Slippery slope...
 
2013-06-28 12:33:40 PM  
Bert and Ernie were played by human actors in the pilot that was sold to PBS.
 
2013-06-28 12:33:43 PM  

i upped my meds-up yours: brap: My favorite Ernie bit is that he is always perturbed at being interrupted from reading some ridiculously esoteric book about pigeons or how to cook oatmeal.

People with esoteric interests are gay about 99.4% of the time.


I love pigeons and oatmeal.
 
2013-06-28 12:34:48 PM  

oldfarthenry: They're g'damn puppets!
Their bodies end at the waist therefore they lack f**kable bits!
STOP SEXUALIZING BITS OF FELT, YOU PERVERTED FREAKS!


Lighten up Francis, they're puppets.
 
2013-06-28 12:35:52 PM  
I'm surprised that the New Yorker would put out such a trite cover to celebrate a landmark case. Something with Stonewall would have made a lot more sense.

But I'll probably enjoy the inevitable poutrage from the fundie wackos who wouldn't be caught dead reading that lib'rul rag in the first place.
 
2013-06-28 12:36:14 PM  
Appropriating pop culture has been a gay privilege ever since Joan Crawford started wearing Groucho Marx eyebrows. If they like it, they take it.
 
2013-06-28 12:36:52 PM  
La la la la lipstick
La la la la lesbian
 
2013-06-28 12:37:38 PM  
"Hogwash! C'mon, Ernie, back me up. Wait ... no, that didn't come out right."
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2013-06-28 12:37:44 PM  
I appreciate the Washington Post dig!


/needs a spell checker
//and a  fact checker
 
2013-06-28 12:38:03 PM  

scottydoesntknow: PBS/Sesame Street has both liberal and conservative viewers and they can't afford to lose any of them by being dragged into this.


This has already been an issue which is why they've stated before that B&E aren't gay. Putting them on the cover or not isn't going to change people's perception of B&E as a the symbol of a long term gay couple.
 
2013-06-28 12:38:05 PM  
I'm glad the "killing off one to make it right" thing was just a rumor.
 
2013-06-28 12:38:08 PM  
Kermitpuppetgoatse.jpg
 
2013-06-28 12:38:16 PM  
... and so does Fark.
 
2013-06-28 12:38:37 PM  
THEY'RE PUPPETS FOR CHRISSAKE!!! THEY'RE NOT REAL!!!

www.inpapasbasement.com
 
2013-06-28 12:38:43 PM  
In the movie "It's a Wonderful Life", Ernie and Bert are the two taxi drivers, TSB.  Apparently, they turned gay, underwent trans-muppet surgery, and wound up on "Sesame Street" with some guy's hand up their butts.  And when they're not fisting, Bert is hanging out with terrorists like Osama bin Laden (I saw it on "Bert is Evil" so it's true), and Ernie has started a support club with Hong Kong Phooey for people with peculiar laughs...
 
2013-06-28 12:39:01 PM  
reubz.squarespace.com

So Bert. Now that your 'friend' is gone, you've come sniffing back here? Do you like Irony, Bert? It's an "I" word. Here's another "I" word: "I" turned you in. Hear that helicopter, Bert? It's coming for you. Even before you can get your little muppet hands on my neck, a SEAL team is going to be in this room. Whether you live or die is up to you. But if you chose to live, Bert, I can guarantee that in the very near future, you will wish you had died.

Here they are now, Bert. Careful fellows! Watch his hands! Get him. Get him good! Is he secure? Great. Now, I believe there was a reward mentioned? Oh thank you. Just doing my patriotic duty. Have a nice life, Bert. Life imprisonment, that it. See you guys! Go Navy! Thanks again.

(Picks up phone) Hey, BB it's me. Yep. They took him away. I got the money. Just you and me, my fine feathered friend. Oh I don't know. This place is dying for a makeover. Do you like marble? I'm thinking marble everywhere....
 
2013-06-28 12:39:27 PM  

ko_kyi: scottydoesntknow: But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

To dry off?


But water falls off him like, um, water off a duck's back.
 
2013-06-28 12:39:40 PM  
Maybe there used to be some questions about their relationship, but that was before this became a regular segment on Sesame Street.

/NTTAWWT
//today's episode was NOT brought to you thanks to a generous contribution from Chick Fil A
 
2013-06-28 12:40:16 PM  
I'm thinking the New Yorker is going to be gettin' sued. While I certainly agree with the sentiment expressed by the cover, the folks at the CTW/Muppets/Jim Henson estate have repeatedly denied that Bert and Ernie are gay (or even human, for that matter). Unless the artist received permission for this depiction, I'm guessing the Henson estate is not too pleased.
 
2013-06-28 12:41:23 PM  

Fano: Telly was a sub


*snort* And was Herry a "bear?"

Seriously, though, Telly's one of my favorites. Herry, too.
 
2013-06-28 12:41:35 PM  

MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.


There's fanfiction for that.
 
2013-06-28 12:41:43 PM  
www.snopes.com
 
2013-06-28 12:41:57 PM  
Gay? No.
But Bert is Evil.
 
2013-06-28 12:42:00 PM  

Hawk24: I'm thinking the New Yorker is going to be gettin' sued. While I certainly agree with the sentiment expressed by the cover, the folks at the CTW/Muppets/Jim Henson estate have repeatedly denied that Bert and Ernie are gay (or even human, for that matter). Unless the artist received permission for this depiction, I'm guessing the Henson estate is not too pleased.


I'm sure this is covered under parody or something like that.
 
2013-06-28 12:42:05 PM  

Lady Indica: If Sherlock were gay, for example, it wouldn't really matter. His love life is only really of interest to the speculation of Watson (and sometimes others) but it's made very clear in the stories that's all secondary to his pursuits of the mind blah blah blah. So if he were boning someone outside of the narrative we see, it has no impact on the stories themselves. Non issue not important...to the story, and to the reader's understanding of the story. If someone wants to imagine him as gay, or bisexual, or hetero, or asexual... I suppose one could make arguments for it, but again...doesn't matter what he is. It may matter to a reader, but doesnt change the stories.


While a valid point, this is a bad example.  Holmes' social life outside of the stories  is explained and  is an important part of the overall storyline.  He essentially only interacts with Watson in a social capacity, partly from introversion and hubris and partly due to his drug issues.  Watson trying to get him to quit and trying to get him to interact with people is a big part of the context for some of the later stories, the whole bit where he throws a fit because Watson is getting married is a fairly big deal in-story.

There are other stories where this isn't the case and the lead is an audience placeholder, though.  Most videogames, romance novels (well, sexual orientation is usually defined there, but actual personality and lifestyle is usually a blank), and the rest of "low" literature can get away with or even benefit from leaving some things up in the air.

//With the weird exception of pulp genres, which are rooted in literal "trash" literature.  Those run on absurdly distinctive, if sometimes unbelievable, characters.
 
2013-06-28 12:42:10 PM  
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2013-06-28 12:44:20 PM  

Lollipop165: Hawk24: I'm thinking the New Yorker is going to be gettin' sued. While I certainly agree with the sentiment expressed by the cover, the folks at the CTW/Muppets/Jim Henson estate have repeatedly denied that Bert and Ernie are gay (or even human, for that matter). Unless the artist received permission for this depiction, I'm guessing the Henson estate is not too pleased.

I'm sure this is covered under parody or something like that.


No more so than Pissing Calvin is.
 
2013-06-28 12:44:22 PM  
I'm hungry... off to lunch!

www.longislandpress.com
 
2013-06-28 12:44:48 PM  
Pluto is a dog that was outside the blast zone. Goofy was a dog that was inside the blast zone but didn't get vaporized. It'll all make sense next week when the Large Haldron Collider slips off it's track. Assuming you aren't in the blast zone, of course.
 
2013-06-28 12:44:53 PM  

Lollipop165: Wizard of Oz has no homosexuality in it, but everyone understands what one means by saying someone is a "friend of Dorothy" as it is a cult classic in the LGBT community.


Jesus, you're just making this shiat up as you go along, aren't you?

Judy Garland is a huge favorite of the gay community.

Judy Garland's most famous movie was Wizard of OZ.

Calling them a "Friend of Dorothy" has nothing to do with the actual movie, they watch it because she's in it, but it's not the movie that makes you a "friend of Dorothy". It's the fan worship of Judy Garland herself. At least get it right.
 
2013-06-28 12:45:31 PM  

Gunny Highway: "Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."


Of course he's the boss, and whatever he says is by definition true, but the idea that they can't be gay because they're young children is a bit insulting. Sexuality doesn't come out of nowhere when you hit puberty or when you start having sex.  It would be nice if all children could see people like them reflected in children's programming.
 
2013-06-28 12:46:27 PM  
I don't care about Bert and Ernie's "relationship", but I think the cover is pretty well done. If it had been some anonymous person on the internet, everyone who is a fan of gay rights would be changing their profile pic and sharing the fark out of it, but instead the magazine makes an easy target.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 12:46:28 PM  
bert and ernie's sexuality:

api.ning.com
 
2013-06-28 12:46:48 PM  

Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.


They a, they a!

/and not the string-operated kind, but the "fisty" kind, amirite?
 
2013-06-28 12:46:58 PM  

whenIsayGO: Gunny Highway: "Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."

Of course he's the boss, and whatever he says is by definition true, but the idea that they can't be gay because they're young children is a bit insulting. Sexuality doesn't come out of nowhere when you hit puberty or when you start having sex.  It would be nice if all children could see people like them reflected in children's programming.


Sure, that makes sense.  Marcy has a crush on Charlie Brown though.
 
2013-06-28 12:47:47 PM  

Valiente: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They a, they a!

/and not the string-operated kind, but the "fisty" kind, amirite?


Typo. Dang
 
2013-06-28 12:48:48 PM  
CSB...

When I was a kid, my mom introduced me to a couple gay guys she knew.  She tried to explain it (without saying "they're gay"), something along the lines of "they like men, not women."  I thought she meant misogyny, and was really confused as to why we were going to hang out with them - and they treated Mom like an equal, and seemed pretty cool, so that made no sense.

I did know what gay was, though, and once I figured out that's what she meant I just wondered why she even bothered because who cares - they're like any other couple really, although a bit more sophisticated and intelligent than a lot of the people we knew.

/Never really thought about whether Bert and Ernie were.  Didn't matter either - they're just funny.
 
2013-06-28 12:49:13 PM  
they're not gay. They're not straight. They're farking puppets who live together. That's all. Just farking stop with this stupid shiat.
 
2013-06-28 12:50:14 PM  

Mikey1969: Lollipop165: Wizard of Oz has no homosexuality in it, but everyone understands what one means by saying someone is a "friend of Dorothy" as it is a cult classic in the LGBT community.

Jesus, you're just making this shiat up as you go along, aren't you?

Judy Garland is a huge favorite of the gay community.

Judy Garland's most famous movie was Wizard of OZ.

Calling them a "Friend of Dorothy" has nothing to do with the actual movie, they watch it because she's in it, but it's not the movie that makes you a "friend of Dorothy". It's the fan worship of Judy Garland herself. At least get it right.


Um, no. Just google "Wizard of Oz Gay Culture". But here's a nice gay link for you explaining the importance of the movie. Judy's portrayal of Dorothy is what helped make her a gay icon: Linky
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 12:50:50 PM  

Gunny Highway: whenIsayGO: Gunny Highway: "Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."

Of course he's the boss, and whatever he says is by definition true, but the idea that they can't be gay because they're young children is a bit insulting. Sexuality doesn't come out of nowhere when you hit puberty or when you start having sex.  It would be nice if all children could see people like them reflected in children's programming.

Sure, that makes sense.  Marcy has a crush on Charlie Brown though.


"No sexuality" is kind of a hard argument for Sparky to make.  It was pretty obvious that Patty would have dropped trou and bent over a bench if Chuck just would have asked.
 
2013-06-28 12:50:52 PM  
I always wondered about Donald Duck.  You have a guy who walks around with a shirt but no pants.  Obviously a pervert.  And I always wondered about the parentage of Huey, Dewey, and Louie--nephews, my ass.  And what's with Donald Duck's speech impediment?  Too many drugs?  Hitting the bong too many times?

And then there's Santa.  Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot?  Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it?  And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...
 
2013-06-28 12:51:21 PM  

Ambitwistor: [www.monkeyclump.com image 400x266]


This eposide brought to you by the letter H. (NSFW)

Link
 
2013-06-28 12:51:32 PM  

Psycat: underwent trans-muppet surgery,


So, is he a muppet or is he a man.?

hang on, I have an idea for a song.
 
2013-06-28 12:53:40 PM  

ACunningPlan: 2 grams: Why do they have to drag Sesame street into all this?  Can't they just be puppets?

Classless Asshats.

^This.

None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

Little children - and the ones who watch Sesame St are very young kids - do not bother, nor are they particularly aware of sexual orientation; they're brains too busy figuring out a bunch of other stuff.  It's only the adults on all sides who obsess about who's "farking" whom on a children's t.v. show, and I don't know whether that's sad or ridiculous.


http://www.tvguide.com/News/Disney-Channel-Same-Sex-Couple-1066972.a sp x

Things are going to get interesting in kids TV.
 
2013-06-28 12:54:24 PM  

vudukungfu: Psycat: underwent trans-muppet surgery,

So, is he a muppet or is he a man.?

hang on, I have an idea for a song.


He claims he's a fully-functional Muppet, but the SCOTUS upheld the New York Appeals Court ruling that says he has to use the humans-only bathroom.  And since he spends an hour a day with a puppeteer's hand up his butt, he has to use the bathroom a lot.
 
2013-06-28 12:54:32 PM  

Psycat: And then there's Santa.  Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot?  Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it?  And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...


You don't understand Santa?

Well-known guy, wears all red, lives in a place of extreme temperature. Has a bunch of lesser minions to do his bidding. Will give you what you desire in life, provided you comply with the requisites. He even spells his name with the same 5 letters! And has claws!

IT'S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!
 
2013-06-28 12:54:42 PM  
Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?
 
2013-06-28 12:54:49 PM  

firesign: This movie came out in 1968, and was extremely popular.
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 346x500]

Sesame Street (with a muppet cast led at that time by Bert & Ernie) premiered in 1969.
Are there seriously any more questions as to the inspiration and intention of Bert & Ernie???


bzzzt

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-28 12:54:49 PM  

Psycat: I always wondered about Donald Duck.  You have a guy who walks around with a shirt but no pants.  Obviously a pervert.  And I always wondered about the parentage of Huey, Dewey, and Louie--nephews, my ass.  And what's with Donald Duck's speech impediment?  Too many drugs?  Hitting the bong too many times?

And then there's Santa.  Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls comes down chimneys a lot?  Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it?  And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...


It is funnier that way.
 
2013-06-28 12:54:50 PM  

d23: Gunny Highway: whenIsayGO: Gunny Highway: "Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."

Of course he's the boss, and whatever he says is by definition true, but the idea that they can't be gay because they're young children is a bit insulting. Sexuality doesn't come out of nowhere when you hit puberty or when you start having sex.  It would be nice if all children could see people like them reflected in children's programming.

Sure, that makes sense.  Marcy has a crush on Charlie Brown though.

"No sexuality" is kind of a hard argument for Sparky to make.  It was pretty obvious that Patty would have dropped trou and bent over a bench if Chuck just would have asked.


Also, she either really needs glasses or she's pretty down with dogfarking.
 
2013-06-28 12:57:09 PM  
Nothing in my childhood was more shocking than that episode where Big Bird cornholed Snufalufagus in that alley. His hair was all disheveled and that big trunk was just flopping around while Big Bird pounded away, slapping that furry ass and maniacally shouting, "Who are you gonna tell?" The Count in background jerking off to the whole scene is what really pushed it over the edge. "One stroke. Two strokes. Three strokes. Ahhhhhh...three strokes!"
 
2013-06-28 12:57:39 PM  

WippitGuud: Psycat: And then there's Santa.  Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot?  Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it?  And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...

You don't understand Santa?

Well-known guy, wears all red, lives in a place of extreme temperature. Has a bunch of lesser minions to do his bidding. Will give you what you desire in life, provided you comply with the requisites. He even spells his name with the same 5 letters! And has claws!

IT'S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!


OMG, YOU'RE RIGHT!  SO RIGHT I HAVE TO EXPRESS MY SHOCK IN AN ALL-CAPS 20-POINT FONT!

Dang I didn't see it before:  'SANTA' can be transposed into 'SATAN'.  I'll bet he lights his pipe with the fires of Hell!  Those elves may be cute, but those pointy ears they have are actually horns!  I think that any true Jeebus-loving Christian should declare a War on Christmas immediately!
 
2013-06-28 12:59:20 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: firesign: This movie came out in 1968, and was extremely popular.
[ecx.images-amazon.com image 346x500]

Sesame Street (with a muppet cast led at that time by Bert & Ernie) premiered in 1969.
Are there seriously any more questions as to the inspiration and intention of Bert & Ernie???

bzzzt

[upload.wikimedia.org image 516x362]


Hmmmm, same year  The Boys In The Bandwas a smash hit.  Coinkydink?

I THINK NOT!
 
2013-06-28 12:59:39 PM  

Psycat: And then there's Santa. Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot? Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it? And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...


I always wondered if santa was just intended to be a polite german way of explaining their drinking culture to their kids..
 
2013-06-28 12:59:50 PM  

oldfarthenry: They're g'damn puppets!
Their bodies end at the waist therefore they lack f**kable bits!
STOP SEXUALIZING BITS OF FELT, YOU PERVERTED FREAKS!


So all farkable parts are below the waist? If you say so.
 
2013-06-28 01:01:02 PM  

mike_d85: scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?


Yeah....what the hell is Goofy!?
ts3.mm.bing.net
 
2013-06-28 01:01:58 PM  
Wow, who knew so many people could be riled up by a cartoon featuring one of the oldest jokes about Bert and Ernie.  Well done, New Yorker.
 
2013-06-28 01:02:12 PM  
I always thought they were brothers.

/shrug
 
2013-06-28 01:02:47 PM  

mike_d85: You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?


Minnie's backdoor man.

That's why Mickey divorced her and had her committed, yanno.

`Cause she was farkin' Goofy.
 
2013-06-28 01:04:41 PM  

brap: Hmmmm, same year  The Boys In The Bandwas a smash hit.  Coinkydink?

I THINK NOT!


IT'S ALL STARTING TO MAKE SENSE
 
2013-06-28 01:05:13 PM  

LaurenAguilera: I always thought they were brothers.

/shrug


It is almost like it doesnt matter.
 
2013-06-28 01:05:24 PM  
This must be a slow news period. Next week's New Yorker cover story is about the Teletubbies.
 
2013-06-28 01:05:35 PM  
Its not like New Yorker covers are blatant trolls...

blog.syracuse.com
 
2013-06-28 01:06:07 PM  

Lollipop165: scottydoesntknow: Lollipop165: scottydoesntknow:

Elephants aren't Republican and don't have any say in the political process. Why aren't you defending elephants from being associated with Republicans?


I wouldn't use either party's choice of animal affiliation as their "symbol". But people will make icons out of nothing just to have something to be a bunch of cheerleaders for. I'd recommend sheep and cows, but that's just me.
 
2013-06-28 01:06:10 PM  

brap: My favorite Ernie bit is that he is always perturbed at being interrupted from reading some ridiculously esoteric book about pigeons or how to cook oatmeal.


sure someone has already pointed this out by now, but dude, it's Bert that reads the lame stuff.  Ernie's the fun one..
 
2013-06-28 01:06:51 PM  

MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.


I beg to differ.  I worked at the CBC during a college intership.  They shot the Canadian version of Sesame street there.  When the cameras weren't rolling(and no kids were in the studio) those puppets would get up to some shenanigans.  Oh my, the language.  Sailors would blush.
 
2013-06-28 01:06:56 PM  

Somaticasual: Psycat: And then there's Santa. Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot? Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it? And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...

I always wondered if santa was just intended to be a polite german way of explaining their drinking culture to their kids..


I'm not sure what message those wacky Germans are sending to their kids:  Behave yourselves and put a highly-flammable evergreen with candles in your living room (Lebensraum--hah!), and a drunken fat guy whose sled is propelled by eight jet-propelled reindeer will break into your house and put really crummy wood-based toys made by eleven slave labor in your comically-oversized socks that you hang by a fire so they ignite and spread the fire to the highly-flammable evergreen and when the fire has been put out and your Haus is a pile of smoldering cinders, you can go to your neighbors' houses doing Wassailing and sing stupid songs.

With logic like that, no wonder the Germans managed to lose two world wars in a single century...

/es tut mir Leid, aber ich bin halb Deutsch-Amerikaner
 
2013-06-28 01:08:42 PM  
most artists are
 
2013-06-28 01:08:57 PM  

oldfarthenry: They're g'damn puppets!
Their bodies end at the waist therefore they lack f**kable bits!
STOP SEXUALIZING BITS OF FELT, YOU PERVERTED FREAKS!


I dunno, it works on Broadway...

farm1.static.flickr.com

during:

www.musicnotes.com

PS: I love that the Tempo marking is "Funky Ass Groove".
 
2013-06-28 01:09:39 PM  

dopekitty74: brap: My favorite Ernie bit is that he is always perturbed at being interrupted from reading some ridiculously esoteric book about pigeons or how to cook oatmeal.

sure someone has already pointed this out by now, but dude, it's Bert that reads the lame stuff.  Ernie's the fun one..


I used to watch it religiously but apparently wasn't paying much attention to the details.  1 - 2 -3 - 4 -whatever whatever homina homina whatever whateves 11 -12!
 
2013-06-28 01:09:40 PM  
I always thought they were brothers. Never once thought "gay."
 
2013-06-28 01:10:02 PM  

cc_rider: I'm surprised that the New Yorker would put out such a trite cover to celebrate a landmark case. Something with Stonewall would have made a lot more sense.

But I'll probably enjoy the inevitable poutrage from the fundie wackos who wouldn't be caught dead reading that lib'rul rag in the first place.


But then, we wouldn't have this all to talk about.

On a side note, the biggest lesbian in fictional history is Thelma.
 
2013-06-28 01:10:27 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Nothing in my childhood was more shocking than that episode where Big Bird cornholed Snufalufagus in that alley. His hair was all disheveled and that big trunk was just flopping around while Big Bird pounded away, slapping that furry ass and maniacally shouting, "Who are you gonna tell?" The Count in background jerking off to the whole scene is what really pushed it over the edge. "One stroke. Two strokes. Three strokes. Ahhhhhh...three strokes!"


I thought the follow up episode was worse. When he was then diagnosed with that std and all the kids started calling him names like "syphalufagus." Started buying pills from Oscar just to cope and had to "tickle" Elmo just to afford them.
 
2013-06-28 01:10:34 PM  

Jon iz teh kewl: most artists are


I take offense at that!  Some of us have weird scuba-sex fetishes that make LGBT people look normal by comparison...
 
2013-06-28 01:10:38 PM  
Every picture of people dressed up as Bert and Ernie on this thread is seriously creeping me out.  Ugh WTF
 
2013-06-28 01:11:48 PM  
Yes, of course, they are just puppets, and more importantly, children characters with no sexuality intended. However, they are pretty much saturated in culture as being a gay couple. Whether jokingly or not, this will not change, and getting worked up over it will only make it worse. If it bothers you, ignore it. If your kids ask if they're gay, say "Of course not. They are just friends."

I admit that I find it amusing to joke around that they are gay, but I understand that there is zero intent to project that by Sesame Street.
 
2013-06-28 01:12:24 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: Meh. And I'm sure PBS and Sesame Street are gonna be thrilled that they're going to get dragged into this. I can only imagine all the BS they're going to be subjected to by the rubes for this


I think there's a pretty safe bet that the rubes will never see a New Yorker cover.
 
2013-06-28 01:12:30 PM  

mike_d85: scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?


I think he may be a cow
 
2013-06-28 01:12:33 PM  
Except for the age difference, these guys might have worked too:

upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-06-28 01:13:09 PM  

Hawk24: I'm thinking the New Yorker is going to be gettin' sued. While I certainly agree with the sentiment expressed by the cover, the folks at the CTW/Muppets/Jim Henson estate have repeatedly denied that Bert and Ernie are gay (or even human, for that matter). Unless the artist received permission for this depiction, I'm guessing the Henson estate is not too pleased.


Fair use. Nobody is getting sued over this.
 
2013-06-28 01:14:08 PM  
Here's another thing:  ever notice that Ernie and Hong Kong Phooey have the same raspy laugh?  I'll bet it's caused by the MPV (Muppet Papilloma Virus) which is spread by Muppets and cartoon characters orally sodomizing each other.  Damn, SCOTUS shoots down the DOMA, and a day later, Muppets and cartoon detectives who practice martial arts are fellating each other.  Doom, I say, doom!
 
2013-06-28 01:14:22 PM  
Wouldn't Seasame St need to give permision for them to use their likeness on the cover?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 01:15:10 PM  

MugzyBrown: Wouldn't Seasame St need to give permision for them to use their likeness on the cover?


It's from the back.  You don't REALLY know it's Bert and Ernie.
 
2013-06-28 01:17:20 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: I can only imagine all the BS they're going to be subjected to by the rubes for this


Rubes? Look at all the idiots in this thread all mad at the New Yorker!  Jesus, people - relax.
 
2013-06-28 01:18:22 PM  

Zulu_as_Kono: Peter von Nostrand: I can only imagine all the BS they're going to be subjected to by the rubes for this

Rubes? Look at all the idiots in this thread all mad at the New Yorker!  Jesus, people - relax.


I hope I dont come off as mad about it.  I just think it is dumb.
 
2013-06-28 01:19:01 PM  
I knew a real couple named Bert and Ernie back in the gay 80's.

/just in case you woke up wondering about that.
 
2013-06-28 01:19:31 PM  

MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.


Holmes and Watson have considerably more of a back story than Bert and Ernie do.

Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.
 
2013-06-28 01:20:22 PM  

Gurgus: MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.

I beg to differ.  I worked at the CBC during a college intership.  They shot the Canadian version of Sesame street there.  When the cameras weren't rolling(and no kids were in the studio) those puppets would get up to some shenanigans.  Oh my, the language.  Sailors would blush.


Well, that was Canada, long arctic nights and all that. And we all know about sailors ;)
 
2013-06-28 01:20:44 PM  
It's true. They are. Ernie's favorite song is actually, "Rubber Dicky", not the Rubber Ducky we heard so often on the show. They had to edit the sound because the sensors would not allow it back in the day. If you look real close when he is singing it you can actually see that he is not mouthing the same word we are hearing.
 
2013-06-28 01:20:54 PM  
Milos Hattrick:
[25.media.tumblr.com image 500x560]

That might be cute if it wasn't so farking weeaboo.
 
2013-06-28 01:21:42 PM  

MrBallou: I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.


You must be fun at parties.
 
2013-06-28 01:22:24 PM  
eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes
 
2013-06-28 01:23:52 PM  

vernonFL: They are not gay. How do I know?

[encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 259x194]

Look at their shirts. No gay couple would leave the house together dressed like that.
Also, Bert's unibrow? Hell no. Any self respecting gay man has his eyebrows threaded


That and they don't even have genitals.
 
2013-06-28 01:24:15 PM  

Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes


I have only read a few Sherlock stories, I never got that impression.
 
2013-06-28 01:25:23 PM  

JohnnyCanuck: It's true. They are. Ernie's favorite song is actually, "Rubber Dicky", not the Rubber Ducky we heard so often on the show. They had to edit the sound because the sensors would not allow it back in the day. If you look real close when he is singing it you can actually see that he is not mouthing the same word we are hearing.


Dicky was the name of the puppeteer who fisted Ernie during each episode of Sesame Street.  Dicky was into latex, so he'd wear a rubber glove when he fisted Ernie.

/and don't get me started on Nancy Screw and the Hard-On Boys
//menage a twat
 
2013-06-28 01:25:58 PM  

Psycat: Here's another thing:  ever notice that Ernie and Hong Kong Phooey have the same raspy laugh?  I'll bet it's caused by the MPV (Muppet Papilloma Virus) which is spread by Muppets and cartoon characters orally sodomizing each other.  Damn, SCOTUS shoots down the DOMA, and a day later, Muppets and cartoon detectives who practice martial arts are fellating each other.  Doom, I say, doom!


You are thinking of Muttley:
upload.wikimedia.org
This guy.

Hong Kong Phooey was voiced by the great Scatman Crothers.
 
2013-06-28 01:26:29 PM  

eeyore102: MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.

Holmes and Watson have considerably more of a back story than Bert and Ernie do.

Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.


Big stretch. The back story was that Holmes was basically a shy misfit with women, and only met one that he really, really liked: Miss Adler; and Watson fell in love with and married a client. The guys were friends, that's all.
 
2013-06-28 01:26:39 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?


Two! Two consenting adults! Ah-ah-ah!
www.manhattangmat.com
 
2013-06-28 01:27:01 PM  

Walker: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.


Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...
 
2013-06-28 01:27:18 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?


I don't really think this is pushing a sexual agenda on kids.

For one thing, marriage does not equal sex. You can explain to a kid in a basic way what marriage is without even mentioning sex. But for some reason, any time GAY marriage is brought up all anyone can think about is what they may be doing in the bedroom, it seems.

My son is almost 4. He knows mommy and daddy are married because we love each other. He doesn't know a thing about sex and how that is also part of marriage because it's not appropriate for a child of his age to know about these things.

He also knows (because we know several gay and lesbian couples with kids he plays with) that some kids have 2 mommies or 2 daddies because all families are different. Again, sex - be it gay or straight - is not a topic of conversation for a child of his age.

Kids who watch Sesame Street are generally too young to know about sex and therefore are not likely to make any sort of assumption about Bert and Ernie's sexuality or lack thereof. Kids just don't look at it that way.

Is the magazine cover from TFA inappropriate? I'm sure some people will think so, but I'm ok with it. Only an adult would know what it represented, a child wouldn't think anything beyond "hey, that's Bert and Ernie!", and it's just showing them with a loving arm around each other FFS, it's not in ANY way sexual unless you choose to see it that way.

Personally, I think it's a sweet image (that is on the cover of a magazine for adults that is not actually affiliated with Sesame Street) and will ultimately harm nobody.
 
2013-06-28 01:27:24 PM  

Gunny Highway: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

I have only read a few Sherlock stories, I never got that impression.


see, it works
 
2013-06-28 01:27:31 PM  

Gunny Highway: I have only read a few Sherlock stories, I never got that impression.


"my dear Watson"

Case closed!
 
2013-06-28 01:27:55 PM  

Lady Indica: So no they're not gay they're not anything. That being said, I still enjoy the adult humor of implying they are. But it's an unintended adult subtext, nothing more.


Well said.
And for the record, I think the New Yorker cover is sweet.
 
2013-06-28 01:29:25 PM  

stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...


So did Marcie
 
2013-06-28 01:30:23 PM  

Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie


So did Linus.
 
2013-06-28 01:30:37 PM  

Voiceofreason01: Gunny Highway: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

I have only read a few Sherlock stories, I never got that impression.

see, it works


I was agreeing.....poorly.
 
2013-06-28 01:30:55 PM  

real_headhoncho: Psycat: Here's another thing:  ever notice that Ernie and Hong Kong Phooey have the same raspy laugh?  I'll bet it's caused by the MPV (Muppet Papilloma Virus) which is spread by Muppets and cartoon characters orally sodomizing each other.  Damn, SCOTUS shoots down the DOMA, and a day later, Muppets and cartoon detectives who practice martial arts are fellating each other.  Doom, I say, doom!

You are thinking of Muttley:
[upload.wikimedia.org image 138x213]
This guy.

Hong Kong Phooey was voiced by the great Scatman Crothers.


A dog???  Not only oral sodomy, but bestiality as well--I'm going to have to take a powder....*

And what's with "National Velvet"?  A girl and her horse--not some sort of Catherine the Great thing, I hope...

/harrumpph!

*ok, ok, I know Hong Kong Phooey was some sort of canine, but just go with the humor...
 
2013-06-28 01:31:06 PM  

Tom_Slick: They are not gay, they are stoners.


Can't they be both?
 
2013-06-28 01:31:16 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?


Male babies wear baby jeans and little baseball caps...
Female babies wear little pink dresses...
Pushing a sexual agenda on children has been happening since like forever...
 
2013-06-28 01:31:24 PM  

Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie


All this time Chuck was jonsing for the Readhead, he could have been having a threesome...
 
2013-06-28 01:31:49 PM  
I was thinking about what to say about this when I realized I don't give a shiat. So they could be gay. They could also be immortal. And transgendered. Bert's skin color could be a slur against Asians and Ernie is obviously an alcoholic dying from liver failure. I don't think my kids have ever contemplated these things and by the time they do they've stopped watching Sesame Street. Elmo is a child molester.
 
2013-06-28 01:31:53 PM  
I have no problem with the depiction of the cover, but couldn't they have gotten a professional to do it? It looks like some yaoi fanart from some dipshiat's deviantart page.
 
2013-06-28 01:32:09 PM  
Ernie must get around, too. Why else would he be in the habit of using a Rubber Duckie?

/you make bathtime lots of fun...
 
2013-06-28 01:32:12 PM  
And....for those who missed it the first time...did you know that Little Boy Blue Jack Horner?
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 01:32:42 PM  

WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.


He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!
 
2013-06-28 01:33:20 PM  

Psycat: And....for those who missed it the first time...did you know that Little Boy Blue Jack Horner?


He needed the money...
 
2013-06-28 01:33:34 PM  
Burt's gay. Ernie's all about some sweet, sweet poontang, though.
 
2013-06-28 01:34:40 PM  

d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blushia


www.cweden.com

the only guy that could have made it happen
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 01:34:41 PM  

d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!


Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...
 
2013-06-28 01:35:12 PM  

stonicus: Psycat: And....for those who missed it the first time...did you know that Little Boy Blue Jack Horner?

He needed the money...


Trust me, you don't want to know where Jack Horner kept his thumb that time...
 
2013-06-28 01:36:34 PM  

d23: d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!

Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...


Pigpen likes it dirty.
 
2013-06-28 01:38:57 PM  

d23: d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!

Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...


Lucy was a biatch...  I will say though, unrequited love is a popular theme in Peanuts... nobody who likes someone in that has that person like them back... Patty likes Charlie, but he likes the red headed girl, and she doesn't even know Charlie exists... Sally like Linus, and he doesn't like her... Lucy likes Schroeder and all he cares about is piano...
 
2013-06-28 01:39:18 PM  
Nice jerb Newyorker.  I hope bigoted parents don't use this as a weapon on their children to dissuade them from liking SS.  Naw, people aren't like that.
 
2013-06-28 01:39:39 PM  
Wouldn't it be more enlightened to believe that two men can live together and be friends without wanting to touch each others butts?
 
2013-06-28 01:39:39 PM  
 
2013-06-28 01:41:19 PM  
I'm pretty sure I'm the only person in the world who grew up assuming that Bert was Ernie's father.
 
2013-06-28 01:41:39 PM  
Which one is the top?
 
2013-06-28 01:42:11 PM  

ACunningPlan: 2 grams: Why do they have to drag Sesame street into all this?  Can't they just be puppets?

Classless Asshats.

^This.

None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

Little children - and the ones who watch Sesame St are very young kids - do not bother, nor are they particularly aware of sexual orientation; they're brains too busy figuring out a bunch of other stuff.  It's only the adults on all sides who obsess about who's "farking" whom on a children's t.v. show, and I don't know whether that's sad or ridiculous.


Wow, we actually have an adult in the thread... How did you find us?
 
2013-06-28 01:42:26 PM  

abhorrent1: Which one is the top?


It is a power bottom situation.
 
2013-06-28 01:42:30 PM  

stonicus: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?

Male babies wear baby jeans and little baseball caps...
Female babies wear little pink dresses...
Pushing a sexual agenda on children has been happening since like forever...


Seriously, this.  As I said above, it would just be nice if kids today could grow up in a world where they have role models who are like themselves.  Kids' shows understand that with other topics like having a character who's disabled or a person of color.  I hope that in a few years parents and educators will notice a kid is gay the same way they notice a kid is lefthanded and buy them a lefty baseball glove.  Don't pretend lefty gloves don't exist and then tease them cause they can't throw for shiat.
 
2013-06-28 01:42:32 PM  

Gunny Highway: Voiceofreason01: Gunny Highway: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

I have only read a few Sherlock stories, I never got that impression.

see, it works

I was agreeing.....poorly.


I see, sorry I was confused about what you were saying.
 
2013-06-28 01:42:41 PM  
A chestnut from my childhood...

Q:  What's green and smells like pork?

A:  Kermit's penis!

/thank you, thank you, and be sure to try the blintzes
//I'll be here all week, folks
 
2013-06-28 01:44:49 PM  

abhorrent1: Which one is the top?


manhattaninfidel.com

Bert has right shaped head. Ernie is a power bottom.
 
2013-06-28 01:46:07 PM  
Also...the Count is a Nympho. Probably bleeped the bleep out of both Ernie & Bert on multiple occasions.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-Wd-Q3F8KM
 
2013-06-28 01:46:46 PM  

WippitGuud: Psycat: And then there's Santa.  Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot?  Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it?  And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...

You don't understand Santa?

Well-known guy, wears all red, lives in a place of extreme temperature. Has a bunch of lesser minions to do his bidding. Will give you what you desire in life, provided you comply with the requisites. He even spells his name with the same 5 letters! And has claws!

IT'S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!


i7.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-28 01:49:19 PM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?


So the New Yorker is a kids' magazine now?  Or could it possibly be that adults have a tendency to read into the subtext of children's stories in order to find or imbue extended meaning?

People who rage against the idea that Bert and Ernie can be seen as a gay couple are silly.

cartoonoveranalyzations.files.wordpress.com


24.media.tumblr.com

OMG!  Bugs is teaching our kids to be transvestites!

/does anyone else remember the episode of Tiny Toons where Buster Bunny and the gang are trying to solve a problem and he says "Hmmm what would my Uncle Bugs do in this situation?"  and they all run off camera and come back on in drag?  Good times.
 
2013-06-28 01:49:30 PM  
The only thing worse than caring who other people are having sex with, is caring about who puppets "have sex" with.
 
2013-06-28 01:50:58 PM  

Gunny Highway: They a[re] puppets on a kids show.

 
2013-06-28 01:53:24 PM  

dopekitty74: WippitGuud: Psycat: And then there's Santa.  Guy with a bright red nose who laughs hysterically and falls down chimneys a lot?  Sounds like a chronic alcoholic to me--explains his big beer belly that shakes like a bowl full of jelly, doesn't it?  And I heard he's a cheapskate who doesn't pay his elves enough, so they've been forced to moonlight at the Keebler factory in their off hours...

You don't understand Santa?

Well-known guy, wears all red, lives in a place of extreme temperature. Has a bunch of lesser minions to do his bidding. Will give you what you desire in life, provided you comply with the requisites. He even spells his name with the same 5 letters! And has claws!

IT'S IN REVELATIONS, PEOPLE!

[i7.photobucket.com image 432x360]


4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-28 01:54:57 PM  

Buttknuckle: cc_rider: I'm surprised that the New Yorker would put out such a trite cover to celebrate a landmark case. Something with Stonewall would have made a lot more sense.

But I'll probably enjoy the inevitable poutrage from the fundie wackos who wouldn't be caught dead reading that lib'rul rag in the first place.

But then, we wouldn't have this all to talk about.

On a side note, the biggest lesbian in fictional history is Thelma.


Do you mean Velma from Scooby Doo? or Thelma in Thelma and Louise?
 
2013-06-28 01:56:53 PM  

stonicus: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Does anyone else find it creepy that some adults are trying to push a sexual agenda on kids that are still learning how to count?

Male babies wear baby jeans and little baseball caps...
Female babies wear little pink dresses...
Pushing a sexual agenda on children has been happening since like forever...


Actually that's pushing gender, not sexuality but you still make a good point.

Modified Wooden Paper Towel Holder: Elmo is a child molester.


Elmo creeps me out.
 
2013-06-28 01:58:09 PM  

SpectroBoy: MrBallou: I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

You must be fun at parties.


His wife is.
She has a heck of an imagination and likes to role play.
 
2013-06-28 01:58:12 PM  
Bert's totally gay. But Ernie is just a really comfortable, open minded bro.
 
2013-06-28 01:58:59 PM  
What about Biff and Sully?

images1.wikia.nocookie.net
 
2013-06-28 01:59:00 PM  

MrBallou: eeyore102: MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.

Holmes and Watson have considerably more of a back story than Bert and Ernie do.

Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

Big stretch. The back story was that Holmes was basically a shy misfit with women, and only met one that he really, really liked: Miss Adler; and Watson fell in love with and married a client. The guys were friends, that's all.


I'm sure that's what ACD wanted everyone to think.

i194.photobucket.com

i194.photobucket.com

media.tumblr.com

/only sort of kidding
//granted the BBC version is much gayer than the others
 
2013-06-28 02:01:04 PM  

Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes


It also makes sense if you've watched any of BBC Sherlock... ;-)

24.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-06-28 02:01:42 PM  
Hmmm. Seems familiar. :)

i371.photobucket.com

Link
 
2013-06-28 02:02:34 PM  
imageshack.us
 
2013-06-28 02:03:17 PM  

santadog: Tom_Slick: They are not gay, they are stoners.

Can't they be both?


People who smoke a much weed as they do are A Sexual.  Too stoned for sex.
 
2013-06-28 02:03:20 PM  

TimSTP: [imageshack.us image 600x793]


Hahahaha!!!!
 
2013-06-28 02:03:34 PM  

ko_kyi: scottydoesntknow: But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

To dry off?


Wouldn't water just roll off him like water off a duck's back?
 
2013-06-28 02:04:13 PM  

CrazyCracka420: The only thing worse than caring who other people are having sex with, is caring about who puppets "have sex" with.


B...b...but the gayness will spread and destroy all children!
 
2013-06-28 02:09:06 PM  

LazerFish: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oeNO56xNlZo


thanks for posting that.. it's been years since I heard it :)
 
2013-06-28 02:10:33 PM  

TimSTP: [imageshack.us image 600x793]


Good one.
 
2013-06-28 02:12:39 PM  

Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.


This.

I'm not against the movement towards equality but it doesn't mean that it must be insinuated into everything.
Sometimes a banana is just a banana.
 
2013-06-28 02:14:43 PM  

TimSTP: [imageshack.us image 600x793]


Wonderful.
 
2013-06-28 02:19:38 PM  
Jeez, next thing you know they'll be saying Ren and Stimpy had some kind of gay interspecies thing going on.
 
2013-06-28 02:20:54 PM  
beartoons.com
 
2013-06-28 02:36:30 PM  

Psycat: A chestnut from my childhood...

Q:  What's green and smells like pork?

A:  Kermit's penis!

/thank you, thank you, and be sure to try the blintzes
//I'll be here all week, folks


Damnit, that made me shoot Red Bull through my nose...It burns!

/Nice jerb.  Forgot about that one from way back.
 
2013-06-28 02:39:00 PM  
This is all well and good, but exactly who is that crackhead on Sesame Street that lives in trash cans?
 
2013-06-28 02:40:46 PM  

OKObserver: This is all well and good, but exactly who is that crackhead on Sesame Street that lives in trash cans?


Gordon.
 
2013-06-28 02:41:21 PM  

dopekitty74: Buttknuckle: cc_rider: I'm surprised that the New Yorker would put out such a trite cover to celebrate a landmark case. Something with Stonewall would have made a lot more sense.

But I'll probably enjoy the inevitable poutrage from the fundie wackos who wouldn't be caught dead reading that lib'rul rag in the first place.

But then, we wouldn't have this all to talk about.

On a side note, the biggest lesbian in fictional history is Thelma.

Do you mean Velma from Scooby Doo? or Thelma in Thelma and Louise?


Oooops.  Well, both.
 
2013-06-28 02:43:22 PM  

WippitGuud: d23: d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!

Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...

Pigpen likes it dirty.


Still trying to figure out where the great pumpkin comes in...
 
2013-06-28 02:43:37 PM  

Tom_Slick: santadog: Tom_Slick: They are not gay, they are stoners.

Can't they be both?

People who smoke a much weed as they do are A Sexual.  Too stoned for sex.


A sexual what?  Or did you mean asexual?
 
2013-06-28 02:44:00 PM  
In before "Kurt Andersen invented this in Spy Magazine in the 1980s"
 
2013-06-28 02:44:06 PM  
Im pretty sure the Bert is evil website has had this down since like the birth of the internet.
 
2013-06-28 02:45:33 PM  

Brittabot: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

It also makes sense if you've watched any of BBC Sherlock... ;-)

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x690]


While it's a clever poke at the show and the characters they go out of their way to establish that Sherlock is a deeply flawed individual with major blindspots; Especially regarding his interaction with other people. Remember how apologetic he had to be to Molly... constantly.

TL;DR Sherlock's blind spot is himself. He doesn't get when people are into him or not.
 
2013-06-28 02:46:23 PM  
encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com
 
2013-06-28 02:56:58 PM  
How is this New Yorker cover not a violation of intellectual property rights?
 
2013-06-28 03:00:54 PM  

TimSTP: [imageshack.us image 600x793]


Now that is farking hilarious.
 
2013-06-28 03:02:48 PM  

Buttknuckle: Tom_Slick: santadog: Tom_Slick: They are not gay, they are stoners.

Can't they be both?

People who smoke a much weed as they do are A Sexual.  Too stoned for sex.

A sexual what?  Or did you mean asexual?


asexual, bad typing detected.
 
2013-06-28 03:11:09 PM  

blatz514: WippitGuud: d23: d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!

Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...

Pigpen likes it dirty.

Still trying to figure out where the great pumpkin comes in...


Well, first you cut a hole in the pumpkin...
 
2013-06-28 03:12:19 PM  

JRoo: blatz514: WippitGuud: d23: d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!

Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...

Pigpen likes it dirty.

Still trying to figure out where the great pumpkin comes in...

Well, first you cut a hole in the pumpkin...


I'm listening...
 
2013-06-28 03:14:21 PM  

mikefinch: Wouldn't it be more enlightened to believe that two men can live together and be friends without wanting to touch each others butts?


Yes. But then what else would people do with their spare time? Read?
 
2013-06-28 03:14:31 PM  

Researcher: Brittabot: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

It also makes sense if you've watched any of BBC Sherlock... ;-)

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x690]

While it's a clever poke at the show and the characters they go out of their way to establish that Sherlock is a deeply flawed individual with major blindspots; Especially regarding his interaction with other people. Remember how apologetic he had to be to Molly... constantly.

TL;DR Sherlock's blind spot is himself. He doesn't get when people are into him or not.


Oh I agree. I adore the relationship between Sherlock and Watson on the BBC series. Though really, John is straight and I think Sherlock is probably asexual or very close to it (not to mention a total aspie who has no clue/desire to behave appropriately towards others).

/It's all Benedict Cumberbatch's fault - he's just so goddamned hot I can't help but envision him in sexy scenarios ;-)
//I love this thread.
 
2013-06-28 03:18:03 PM  
You know where this is all headed....

a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2013-06-28 03:23:19 PM  

blatz514: Seems legit.

[helablog.com image 600x800]


But why are they old?
 
2013-06-28 03:24:24 PM  

flondrix: How is this New Yorker cover not a violation of intellectual property rights?


Because copyright isn't some omnipotent incantation that prevents any and all depiction of a copyrighted idea under any circumstances?  (At least not yet, thank goodness.) See parody.  This cover uses the fact that Bert and Ernie are culturally iconic to make a statement about current events.
 
2013-06-28 03:26:24 PM  

blatz514: WippitGuud: d23: d23: WippitGuud: Gunny Highway: stonicus: Marcie is a lesbian... I don't think Patty is though, she's always had a crush on Charlie Brown...

So did Marcie

So did Linus.

He was so hung up on the Little Red Haired Girl that he didn't noticed that he could have had an all-niter that would have made Caligula blush!

Oh.. and we forgot all about Lucy.  If she isn't a tsundere I don't know who is...

Pigpen likes it dirty.

Still trying to figure out where the great pumpkin comes in...


Linus misheard, it's actually the Great Blumpkin.
 
2013-06-28 03:42:38 PM  

Gunny Highway: mike_d85: scottydoesntknow: To The Escape Zeppelin!: ACunningPlan:None of my kids ever asked me if Bert & Ernie were gay; they never asked why Donald Duck didn't wear trousers.  Or why Tinkie Winkie carried a handbag or why Little Bear's entire family wore clothes but Little Bear ran around stark naked the whole time....

I asked my niece why Donald Duck doesn't wear pants to which she replied that "he's a duck, of course he doesn't wear pants." I decided that was the perfect answer.

But can you explain why he wears a towel around his waist whenever he gets out of the bath?

You know, I thought Goofy was a dog, but if Pluto is a dog then what does that make Goofy?

A Mog.


farm3.static.flickr.com

Approves
 
2013-06-28 03:48:27 PM  

Doctor Funkenstein: Nothing in my childhood was more shocking than that episode where Big Bird cornholed Snufalufagus in that alley. His hair was all disheveled and that big trunk was just flopping around while Big Bird pounded away, slapping that furry ass and maniacally shouting, "Who are you gonna tell?" The Count in background jerking off to the whole scene is what really pushed it over the edge. "One stroke. Two strokes. Three strokes. Ahhhhhh...three strokes!"


Oh my, you have me in tears.  Hilarious. Your post ALWAYS make me laugh--hard.

Awesome to see you post I have you highlighted because of a story you told that had my stomach aching for the day after.  Never laughed that hard from a post Fark ever or since.  If I remember correctly it was a story about using not being PC and using the "R" word (retard) and you told a story of how you had a kid and you were reading Merchant of Venicewith him and he was eating crayons and the retarded kid beat up your friend.

I wish I would've favorited them.
 
2013-06-28 03:56:44 PM  
What absolute rubbish. It's disgraceful the way some people are. They have to project their own perverse fantasies onto fictional characters and do so by picking and choosing vague elements of story and character as a means to detect a subtext that only exists in their own addled brains. They are most certainly not a gay couple. That's completely absurd.

It's obvious to anyone who takes the time to look that Ernie is a paedophile and Bert molests pigeons. Completely and utterly separate from one another.
 
2013-06-28 04:04:49 PM  
The New Yorker chooses covers that garner attention.

Given the media reaction, it clearly accomplished exactly what it set out to do, so it's probably one of their best covers, regardless of accuracy or content.
 
2013-06-28 04:14:24 PM  

Brittabot: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

It also makes sense if you've watched any of BBC Sherlock... ;-)

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x690]


They also totally lampshade that in the Hound of Baskerville episode
 
2013-06-28 04:19:40 PM  

Il Douchey: They are not gay.  Puppets don't have genitals

/Grover, however, is a scatophage


You've been shopping at the wrong puppet store.
 
2013-06-28 04:19:42 PM  

Lady Indica: MrBallou: Gunny Highway: They a puppets on a kids show.

I used to argue a lot with the wife about this. They are fictional characters. They don't do ANYTHING when the cameras aren't rolling, so they can't have hidden lives.

Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.

No. Many fictional characters are described as having a life outside the narrative, a life that occurred before, and goes on inbetween stories (as with Holmes, etc). There's often a lot of vaguery so that people can project onto the character and better identify with them/enjoy them/understand them.

If Sherlock were gay, for example, it wouldn't really matter. His love life is only really of interest to the speculation of Watson (and sometimes others) but it's made very clear in the stories that's all secondary to his pursuits of the mind blah blah blah. So if he were boning someone outside of the narrative we see, it has no impact on the stories themselves. Non issue not important...to the story, and to the reader's understanding of the story. If someone wants to imagine him as gay, or bisexual, or hetero, or asexual... I suppose one could make arguments for it, but again...doesn't matter what he is. It may matter to a reader, but doesnt change the stories.

Bert and Ernie are puppets. They are puppets in their world too. They do not have sexuality any more than little kids do. That's the entire point. They have said that from the beginning. Bert and Ernie aren't really adults. They're not really children. They are puppets. Elmo is childlike, and treated as a child puppet...even though we never see Elmo's parents. Even though Elmo appears to live alone (except for his goldfish, who I think is named Dorothy). Some of the puppets have gender (Bert and Ernie are males) but some aren't defined. I don't think Elmo is ever defined. Big Bird wasn't I don't think when I was a kid. And that's also cool.

I'm bisexual myself, and I really get the problem of invisibility in culture. Most movies feature hetero characters (and white characters). People want to identify with positive things, and Sesame Street is a huge part of our culture, and our childhoods. But one's sexual orientation isn't a deal for the age of kids watching the show. It can be for the adults they know and have in their lives, which is why the show has addressed that and other issues with their ADULT characters.

So no they're not gay they're not anything. That being said, I still enjoy the adult humor of implying they are. But it's an unintended adult subtext, nothing more.


Elmo has parents, His fathers name is "Louie". His mother is never seen.
Granted, things dealing with Elmo and his father tend to be directto video things that function as father/son discussion things that can be special ordered.
Like the episode where Elmo's dad turns out to be a part of the reserve, and he's incameo gear and they are having a father son chat about him going off to wr
.Elmo's characters has always been a post toddler / pre "tween".thing
 
2013-06-28 04:42:04 PM  
You know who else made people declare to be a sexual orientation they are not...
 
2013-06-28 04:48:38 PM  

Supdog: Hmmm. Seems familiar. :)



Link


I knew I remembered that from a PS contest.
Good job. I would sue!
 
2013-06-28 05:05:52 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: You know who else made people declare to be a sexual orientation they are not...


c'mon stop picking on them
 
2013-06-28 05:29:43 PM  

Brittabot: Researcher: Brittabot: Voiceofreason01: eeyore102:
Personally, I think Holmes being gay for Watson isn't that much of a stretch.

It makes all sorts of sense if you've never read any Sherlock Holmes

It also makes sense if you've watched any of BBC Sherlock... ;-)

[24.media.tumblr.com image 850x690]

While it's a clever poke at the show and the characters they go out of their way to establish that Sherlock is a deeply flawed individual with major blindspots; Especially regarding his interaction with other people. Remember how apologetic he had to be to Molly... constantly.

TL;DR Sherlock's blind spot is himself. He doesn't get when people are into him or not.

Oh I agree. I adore the relationship between Sherlock and Watson on the BBC series. Though really, John is straight and I think Sherlock is probably asexual or very close to it (not to mention a total aspie who has no clue/desire to behave appropriately towards others).

/It's all Benedict Cumberbatch's fault - he's just so goddamned hot I can't help but envision him in sexy scenarios ;-)
//I love this thread.


You are a lady after my own heart. ^_^

I do agree, most likely John is straight and Sherlock is asexual. It's just fun sometimes to think there might be something more there. ^_^

I also agree that Benedict Cumberbatch is smoking hot.
 
2013-06-28 06:22:59 PM  

d23: Gunny Highway: whenIsayGO: Gunny Highway: "Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."

Of course he's the boss, and whatever he says is by definition true, but the idea that they can't be gay because they're young children is a bit insulting. Sexuality doesn't come out of nowhere when you hit puberty or when you start having sex.  It would be nice if all children could see people like them reflected in children's programming.

Sure, that makes sense.  Marcy has a crush on Charlie Brown though.

"No sexuality" is kind of a hard argument for Sparky to make.  It was pretty obvious that Patty would have dropped trou and bent over a bench if Chuck just would have asked.


A threesome between CB, PP and Marci would be highly appropriate yet totally wrong.
 
2013-06-28 06:44:28 PM  

MrBallou: Similar discussion was had for Holmes and Watson.


It's really fun having that discussion with conspiracy theorists, who are fond of quoting Sherlock Holmes about "whatever remains, however improbable," as if he were not only an actual person, but a reliable authority on building collapses.
 
2013-06-28 06:49:26 PM  
i.imgur.com

Okay, that's it.

Saddle up.  We're going to HumanLand.
 
2013-06-28 07:41:43 PM  
Whether Bert and Ernie were designed to secretly be gay or not, I don't accept Sesame Workshop's bullshiat that they are "puppets" with "nothing below the waist" and that they "have no sexuality".

If that were true, there would be no heterosexual puppets.  But unfortunately for Sesame Workshop there are plenty of blatantly heterosexual puppets, including couples with children.

And the whole "it's an innocent kids show" thing is rubbish too.  It's not like sex is happening on screen.  Gay couples are no more un-innocent than straight couples, of which there are plenty on Sesame Street.  Saying stuff like that implies there is something vulgar or dirty about the mere presence of gay couples that should be kept out of kids programming.

Unthinking homophobia, it's for the kids!


Jim_Callahan: While a valid point, this is a bad example. Holmes' social life outside of the stories is explained and is an important part of the overall storyline. He essentially only interacts with Watson in a social capacity, partly from introversion and hubris and partly due to his drug issues. Watson trying to get him to quit and trying to get him to interact with people is a big part of the context for some of the later stories, the whole bit where he throws a fit because Watson is getting married is a fairly big deal in-story.


There's a very interesting article about the coded homosexual references in the Sherlock Holmes stories which I now can't find, darn it.  These things might have been obvious to the underground homosexuals at the time but the cultural references are now quite lost on us.  Particularly interesting is that Holmes and Watson fled London for reasons the author declines to explain, in 1895 when Oscar Wilde's trial threatened a lot of London's gays and many real-life gays did flee the city.

I do find it interesting people are more comfortable with the idea he might have been gay than with the idea he might have been asexual.  Being gay might be "yucky" to some, but not being interested in sex makes you basically non-human to most people.
 
2013-06-28 08:42:26 PM  
 
2013-06-28 08:46:14 PM  
Archie is NOT farking Mr. Weatherbee!!!

/What's a Nubian?
 
2013-06-28 08:58:53 PM  

The First Four Black Sabbath Albums: You know who else made people declare to be a sexual orientation they are not...


Meatloaf?
 
2013-06-28 09:54:27 PM  
Next thing, you're going to tell me....


cdn.themis-media.com

No way!!!
 
2013-06-28 11:34:25 PM  
Regarding Sherlock/Watson: remember the time in which the tales were written, and the great bias toward womanhood then.

http://www.nerowolfe.org/htm/stout/home-family/BSI/Watson_was_a_woma n. pdf
 
2013-06-29 12:01:14 AM  
Gunny Highway

studebaker hoch:

Walker Gunny Highway:

They a puppets on a kids show.

They're gay puppets.

Spoiler: Peppermint Patty and Marcie are lesbians.

Those two were never in question. "Charles M. Schulz denied that there was any truth in the rumor, saying that the characters are supposed to be very young children and they both have crushes on Charlie Brown."


I don't believe someone would be stupid enough to ask that question.
 
2013-06-29 03:50:58 AM  

TimSTP:


Holy crap! That's f*cking awesome!
 
2013-06-29 09:32:50 PM  
There isn't enough marriage on this planet to waste it on people who are actually going to be happy together.

We've passed Peak Marriage.
 
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