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2013-06-28 10:12:52 AM
He's certainly not the first "doesn't care about black people voting justice", so he has that going for him.
 
2013-06-28 10:24:56 AM
That article has fark-all to do with the headline.
 
2013-06-28 10:38:08 AM

James!: That article has fark-all to do with the headline.


On Fark? Are you new here?
 
2013-06-28 10:41:41 AM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: James!: That article has fark-all to do with the headline.

On Fark? Are you new here?


No, I mean the CNN headline.
 
2013-06-28 10:50:11 AM

James!: MaudlinMutantMollusk: James!: That article has fark-all to do with the headline.

On Fark? Are you new here?

No, I mean the CNN headline.


Heh

/sorry
 
2013-06-28 11:27:10 AM
Sounds like the campiest Western ever, next to "High Plains Drifter".
 
2013-06-28 11:31:46 AM

Valiente: Sounds like the campiest Western ever, next to "High Plains Drifter".


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2013-06-28 11:41:59 AM
I am thinking Scalia is really the closet, self-loathing gay guy
 
2013-06-28 11:43:19 AM

monoski: I am thinking Scalia is really the closet, self-loathing gay guy


Yeah I'm sure there have been closeted others, just by the law of numbers.
 
2013-06-28 11:44:11 AM
Wow, really?
 
2013-06-28 11:44:35 AM
And i suppose that makes Warren the first black Justice because he drafted Loving v. Virginia?
 
2013-06-28 11:46:06 AM

monoski: I am thinking Scalia is really the closet, self-loathing gay guy


Not to get all serious, but think about why you try to insult those who disagree with you about the role of government by calling them homosexual.

/I also strongly feel the role of government is not to keep two loving adults from marrying each other
 
2013-06-28 11:48:27 AM
The first gay Supreme Court Justice is going to be Conservative and Christian. He'll have a boyfriend, but won't get married because of his biblical beliefs that marriage is one man, one woman. He'll also be pro-life and similar to Clarence Thomas on court issues.
 
2013-06-28 11:50:58 AM

FLMountainMan: monoski: I am thinking Scalia is really the closet, self-loathing gay guy

Not to get all serious, but think about why you try to insult those who disagree with you about the role of government by calling them homosexual.

/I also strongly feel the role of government is not to keep two loving adults from marrying each other


I don't think it's an insult to call someone a homosexual, any more than I think it's an insult to call someone left handed.

But THEY do. Which is why we keep calling them closet cases.
 
2013-06-28 11:51:25 AM
"if Bill Clinton was the first Black President" --- I thought the job of an editor was to catch these kind of mistakes.
 
2013-06-28 11:52:35 AM

Funk Brothers: The first gay Supreme Court Justice is going to be Conservative and Christian. He'll have a boyfriend, but won't get married because of his biblical beliefs that marriage is one man, one woman. He'll also be pro-life and similar to Clarence Thomas on court issues.


Isn't Kagan gay? I thought she was, albeit not out.
 
2013-06-28 11:53:33 AM
Oh, I've had such a morning in the Supreme Court. I could stamp my little feet the way those attorneys carry on.

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2013-06-28 12:00:13 PM

IC Stars: Oh, I've had such a morning in the Supreme Court. I could stamp my little feet the way those attorneys carry on.

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You win.
 
2013-06-28 12:00:22 PM

Teiritzamna: And i suppose that makes Warren the first black Justice because he drafted Loving v. Virginia?


Hey, Clinton was our "First Black President"
 
2013-06-28 12:02:45 PM
In all seriousness, didn't David Souter beat out both Kagan and Kennedy?
 
2013-06-28 12:04:56 PM
If the headline is a question, the answer is no.

CNN is racing to the bottom with such speed this summer it's truly shocking. They're two months away from becoming the National Enquirer of TV.
 
2013-06-28 12:18:09 PM

fatbear: If the headline is a question, the answer is no.

CNN is racing to the bottom with such speed this summer it's truly shocking. They're two months away from becoming the National Enquirer of TV.


Hey, now, the National Enquirer recently won a Pulitzer.  That would be a move up for CNN.
 
2013-06-28 12:19:53 PM
I would argue that being married with three children would be a strong indicator that he is not gay.  But heck that's just me and did require a google search.

/difficutly high.
 
2013-06-28 12:44:01 PM
If I had to bet on which recent Supreme Court justice is the most likely one to be gay, I'd have to put my money on the now-retired 74-year-old never-married "confirmed bachelor" who still lived with his mother in the family home when he was appointed to the court:

neveryetmelted.com

Though I do have to say that Kennedy does ping the gaydar a little bit as well (and I've met him in person a few times and have talked with him, so I do have some small basis for comparison), despite the fact that he's married and has kids.  Certainly I know several married guys who were deeply closeted for most of their life and who finally came out later after the kids were grown and gone, and many of them, like Kennedy, also happened to be devoutly Catholic and apparently had tried to "will" themselves to be straight for much of their lives for that reason.  I'm not saying that Kennedy is one of those, but it certainly wouldn't surprise me if he was.

NTTAWW any of that, of course.  Kennedy does seem to understand and appreciate gays and gay rights, but of course, its entirely possible or probable that he does so solely because he's a decent human being and its simply the right thing to do, rather than because he is secretly gay himself.
 
2013-06-28 12:52:18 PM
HEY What about meeee?
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2013-06-28 12:56:58 PM
Cyberluddite not a simulpost exactly, but we were on the same wavelength as it took at least the eight minutes for me to manupulate my cellphones clipboard etc.
 
2013-06-28 12:58:23 PM

Quinzy: I would argue that being married with three children would be a strong indicator that he is not gay.


You might argue that, but it's not a good argument.

Difficulty: really farking low.
 
2013-06-28 01:02:07 PM

Funk Brothers: The first gay Supreme Court Justice is going to be Conservative and Christian. He'll have a boyfriend, but won't get married because of his biblical beliefs that marriage is one man, one woman. He'll also be pro-life and similar to Clarence Thomas on court issues.


The first gay supreme court justice will be closeted and moderate like for example David Souter.
 
2013-06-28 01:09:50 PM

fatbear: Quinzy: I would argue that being married with three children would be a strong indicator that he is not gay.
You might argue that, but it's not a good argument.
Difficulty: really farking low.


I wonder if there was ever a study done of the religious breakdown for married men (married to women, that is) who are gay?  Because among the guys I've known (an admittedly small and unreliable sample size) who were in "traditional" marriages at some point in their live but who ultimately were gay, a disproportionate number were fairly devout adherents to a religion that views homosexuality as a mortal sin (most often Catholicism).  So it seemed to me that the primary purpose for gay men to marry a woman was to try to "learn" to be straight because Jeebus.  If there were a name for this condition, scientists might consider calling it "Marcus Bachmann Syndrome."
 
2013-06-28 01:14:06 PM

Quinzy: I would argue that being married with three children would be a strong indicator that he is not gay.  But heck that's just me and did require a google search.

/difficutly high.


Howdy pardner! Remember meeeeee?


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2013-06-28 01:31:11 PM
Proof that Anthony Kennedy is not the first gay justice.

1. The Supreme Court was created in 1789.

2. The number of members has varied from five to ten.

3. Each one of those men (and lately, women) is a ticket in the gay lottery.
4. Gays usually estimate the percentage of the population that is "gay", which is to say people who have same-sex sexual relations or would like to if the opportunity arose, at 10%. Even the denialists who attempt to minimize the percentage of gays because they believe this means we don't have to extend basic human rights to them, puts the percentage of gays at 1%-3%. If by gay, you mean a sexually active adult male who has had sex with a man in the last year (remembering that about 25% of that population hasn't had sex with anybody in the last year), you are stuck with several percent.

5. Here's a gaily-colored chart of the 112 Supreme Court Justices so far:

upload.wikimedia.org
Source: Wikipedia

Any one of these men and women could have been the first "gay" justice, including the first one.

Let's do some math.

Let us assume that 0.5% of all Supreme Court Justices are gay. Totally meaningless figure plucked from the short hairs of my arse.

The propability that two of them are straight is thus 0.995 x 0.995 = 0.99. There is a 1% chance that one or both of them are gay.

The probability that four of them are straight is 0.995**4 = 0.98.

The probability that eight of them are straight is 0.995*8 = 0.96. There is now a 4% chance of them being gay even assuming that justices are a heck of lot less likely to be gay than the rest of the human race.

16 justices, 0.92.
32 justices, 0.85 (15% chance that one or more are gay).
64 justices, 0.72 (28% chance that one or more are gay).
128 justces, 0.526 (47.4% chance that one or more are gay.

In short, there is a nearly 50% chance that one or more justices are gay if the chance of one justce being gay is a ridiculously low one half of one percent.

But let's get real. I see no reason to suppose that being a lawyer makes you less likely to be gay, or being a judge, or a politician, or a SCJ.

The chance of real people being gay are massively higher than one half of one percent. If you count bisexuals, estimates have ranged as high as 50% under duress (in all may groups such as prison), and are commonly around one in four or one in three.

Do the math. It is unlikely that we have a first gay Supreme Court Justice still alive at this late date in history. It is highly probable that one or more of the current justices has had a "gay experience".

WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW WHICH ONE.

Unless it is Antonio Scalia. That would be ha-larious. Even Clarence Thomas would be a hoot.

PS: Don't you think that every post is improved by the addition of a gaily-colored chart? I strongly suspect that the Supreme Court is improved by
the addition of a gay or lesbian.

Every woman who rejects a Farker's demands for sex is a lesbian. Therefore we can assume that the gay population is about 100% of the total population.

Q.E.D.

I'm pretty sure more "gays" have been Supreme Court Justices than women, Hispanics, African-Americans, or atheists. In my experience and to the best of my knowledge, upper class and upper middle class white men constitute the vast majority of "gays", out or closeted. It's much harder to be gay if you are not a member of the so-called "majority".
 
2013-06-28 01:59:30 PM

Funk Brothers: The first gay Supreme Court Justice is going to be Conservative and Christian. He'll have a boyfriend, but won't get married because of his biblical beliefs that marriage is one man, one woman. He'll also be pro-life and similar to Clarence Thomas on court issues.


Elena Kagan doesn't have a boyfriend.
 
2013-06-28 02:37:02 PM
If we were to rank the current members of the SCOTUS from "least likely to be gay" to "most likely to be gay," I'm guessing that the order would be something like this:

Ginsburg (nothing at all to suggest she might be gay)
Thomas (he certainly is attracted to women, and there's no apparent sign he likes men as well)
Breyer (born and raised in San Francisco, and lifelong resident of Bay Area--if he were gay, he probably wouldn't have felt a need to be closeted)
Scalia (homophobic, but no apparent other signs of secret gayness)
Roberts (probably straight--but you never know)
Sotomeyor (once married, now divorced, doesn't seem to have many relationships with men, but no real indicators of gayness)
Alito (Catholic but not married until his mid-30s, telltale levels of homophobia, possible closet case--either way, though, he's definitely a little biatch)
Kennedy (see my earlier post above)
Kagan (you don't really need highly-tuned gaydar to see some obvious indicators here)
 
2013-06-28 03:27:20 PM
Certainly Not News strikes again.
 
2013-06-28 03:47:52 PM
Better take on DOMA  here: http://www.popehat.com/2013/06/26/compare-and-contrast-justice-scalia - edition/

tl;dr:
Justice Scalia in 2003: "Gays are icky and laws need to be written to abuse them"
Justice Scalia in 2013: "Laws written that abuse gays are not because they are icky"
[see popehat for all your detailed analysis of Prenda legal asshattery.  At least one is a farker]
 
2013-06-28 06:41:32 PM

Funk Brothers: The first gay Supreme Court Justice is going to be Conservative and Christian. He'll have a boyfriend, but won't get married because of his biblical beliefs that marriage is one man, one woman. He'll also be pro-life and similar to Clarence Thomas on court issues.


Great, so we'll have three Scalias?
 
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