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(ABC Local)   Ric Romero blows the printer industry wide open: "Printer ink is one of the most expensive liquids you can buy. In fact, ounce for ounce, it can cost more than fine champagne "   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 90
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2013-06-28 08:08:45 AM
Just don't see many Romero pieces on the main page anymore.
 
2013-06-28 08:55:15 AM
Perhaps I should stay out of this thread.
 
2013-06-28 08:55:25 AM
"I wouldn't recommend drinking it, however! Ouch!"
 
2013-06-28 08:56:04 AM
www.theblaze.com
 
2013-06-28 08:56:06 AM
the fact that i can't make a joke comparing this liquid to printer ink makes me MAD
 
GBB [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 08:56:39 AM

AJatHP: Perhaps I should stay out of this thread.


no, stay and take the flogging you deserve.
 
2013-06-28 08:57:46 AM
unless you are buying the refillable ink, and refilling your ink(even then can only do it for maybe 5 times before the ink case is to far go to use again) it can be cheaper to just buy a new cheap printer when the ink runs out.
 
2013-06-28 08:57:50 AM
This is so true.  I have three printers in my house.  The ink is running low, or totally our on all of them.  But I would be better off buying a new printer than to go buy the ink.

At the risk of stating something even more obvious...  That is just so stupid it mangles my mind.

It's like giving a car to someone for $15, but charging $100 a gallon for gas.
 
PJ-
2013-06-28 08:58:45 AM
I'm pretty sure that the PLA me 3D printer is cheaper than toner for inkjet printers.
 
2013-06-28 08:59:38 AM
I just have a hard time understanding why anyone would even want to use an inkjet printer for any purpose in this day and age, let alone have to buy ink for it.
 
PJ-
2013-06-28 09:00:13 AM

PJ-: I'm pretty sure that the PLA me for my 3D printer is cheaper than toner for inkjet printers.


Woooooooow, my bad,  FTFM
 
2013-06-28 09:00:20 AM
To be fair, A LOT of research and quality of control go into making sure that the liquid conforms to very tight standards and the bulk of the cost is in the cartridge really. If they wanted to they could develop the same stringent standards in refill kits but then of course that wouldn't make them as much money.
 
2013-06-28 09:00:31 AM

durbnpoisn: This is so true.  I have three printers in my house.  The ink is running low, or totally our on all of them.  But I would be better off buying a new printer than to go buy the ink.

At the risk of stating something even more obvious...  That is just so stupid it mangles my mind.

It's like giving a car to someone for $15, but charging $100 a gallon for gas.


You usually get more in a real ink cartridge than you do from those starter cartridges that come with the printer.

I can assure you that the industry takes people like you into account and if anybody is coming out ahead in this deal it isn't you.
 
2013-06-28 09:00:37 AM
Anyone else hoping that our fav news-hawk Ric Romero will make a cameo appearance in `Anchorman 2'?
 
2013-06-28 09:01:27 AM
I just print at work. I'm not paying $34 for an cartridge that holds a half an ounce of ink.
 
2013-06-28 09:02:27 AM
They make the printers better and better with great quality photo prints.....but shrunk the size the print cartridges and jacked the prices to as high as gold.  Farkers.  I hate them all.
 
2013-06-28 09:02:32 AM
Most people have a higher need for printer ink than fine champagne.
Why they make the freaking ink more expensive than the damn printer itself, I'm not sure.  At least HP was nice enough to put in two printer ink cartridges inside when I bought my printer.
 
2013-06-28 09:03:02 AM
Actually, this is a potentially useful article from Ric.  While he starts off the article with a fact about as newsworthy as the sun rising this morning, he continues and provides a link to a Consumer Reports article that warns about certain printer models that use far more ink per page printed than others.
jamiedubs.com
Leave Ric Romero alone!
 
2013-06-28 09:03:37 AM
Printers ink???? I only use cursive ink...granted, I can't read it, but it is cheaper.
 
2013-06-28 09:03:52 AM
i236.photobucket.com
 
PJ-
2013-06-28 09:04:34 AM

durbnpoisn: This is so true.  I have three printers in my house.  The ink is running low, or totally our on all of them.  But I would be better off buying a new printer than to go buy the ink.

At the risk of stating something even more obvious...  That is just so stupid it mangles my mind.

It's like giving a car to someone for $15, but charging $100 a gallon for gas.


From my understanding, the ink that is included with a new printer doesn't contain as much ink as buying the toner cartridge separately.  I can't say for sure, but I think it's actually a considerable difference.

My buddy once told me that re-filling ink cartridges isn't a good idea if you don't print very often.  It breaks the seal on the cartridge, therefore allowing ink to evaporate.
 
2013-06-28 09:05:14 AM

GBB: AJatHP: Perhaps I should stay out of this thread.

no, stay and take the flogging you deserve.


Your ink thirst is my job security :D
 
2013-06-28 09:07:18 AM
Came for the Office Space reference.
Leaving happy.
 
2013-06-28 09:08:55 AM
Actually, I never thought of that in champagne terms. Way to go, Rick!
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 09:10:08 AM
I wish I had the source for this headline... maybe it was Fark..

"Tanker carrying printer ink spills on highway.  Loss estimated at one billion dollars."
 
2013-06-28 09:11:01 AM
Jesus, what a bunch of babies. First, don't look at the price of the ink per ounce, look at how much you get for your money. Second, go somewhere like Costco. I got my ink for about 1/2 the price it would be elsewhere. Third, you don't want to spend a lot on printer ink? Then buy some piece of shiat and don't come whining to me if your finished product looks like crap.

Seriously, this whole "by the ounce" thing is a joke. Look at the total yield. And refilling with garbage ink is going to result in garbage output.

I'd tell everyone to get a laser printer, but they'd just biatch and moan about the cost of a toner cartridge, even though a household can make a toner cartridge last a year or two, as long as they aren't running a business out of their house, and the stuff doesn't dry out.

Man, this stupid debate annoys me, and I used to buy a lot of it when I was taking all of my computer art classes, and we were broke. Printer ink STILL didn't send me to a freeway off-ramp with a Will Do Graphic Design For Food sign, so I'm pretty sure people can afford it.
 
2013-06-28 09:11:56 AM
I get no kick from printer ink, mere toner doesn't thrill me at all...
 
2013-06-28 09:12:17 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: To be fair, A LOT of research and quality of control go into making sure that the liquid conforms to very tight standards and the bulk of the cost is in the cartridge really. If they wanted to they could develop the same stringent standards in refill kits but then of course that wouldn't make them as much money.


Then why can I get a complete set of ink carts for the Epson 77/78 size for $12 ?  And they worked perfectly well.

Like the article says, Brother seems to be the only company which isn't completely screwing people on ink.  I'm not sure why you would buy an inkjet nowadays anyhow.  A decent B+W laser can be had for less than $100.  A similar machine 15 years ago cost thousands of dollars.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 09:12:34 AM

durbnpoisn: This is so true.  I have three printers in my house.  The ink is running low, or totally our on all of them.  But I would be better off buying a new printer than to go buy the ink.

At the risk of stating something even more obvious...  That is just so stupid it mangles my mind.

It's like giving a car to someone for $15, but charging $100 a gallon for gas.


It's not only ink, either.  I have an HP color laser at home.  I bought it 3-4 years ago and I do so little printing that I am still on the starter cartridges.  One day soon, though, I am going to run out of one of the colors.  Based on what I have looked up so far it is going to be more economical for me to buy a brand new printer.  That's how bad the industry is right now.
 
2013-06-28 09:12:42 AM
FTA:  You may not realize it, but printer ink is one of the most expensive liquids you can buy. In fact, ounce for ounce, it can cost more than fine champagne

Hasn't this been common knowledge since the 90s?

As for Brother printers, I asked for the cheapest greyscale printer in the store, both on price tag and ink. They gave me a Brother printer. Bought it 4-5 years ago and haven't even had to refill it. Granted, I don't print very often, but my previous printer would at the very least have clogged up by now. This one hasn't even done that. Best printer I've had so far. No, I don't own stock.

(anyone tried their color printers? any good?)
 
2013-06-28 09:14:34 AM

dj245: Then why can I get a complete set of ink carts for the Epson 77/78 size for $12 ? And they worked perfectly well.

Like the article says, Brother seems to be the only company which isn't completely screwing people on ink. I'm not sure why you would buy an inkjet nowadays anyhow. A decent B+W laser can be had for less than $100. A similar machine 15 years ago cost thousands of dollars.


Because the margins are higher and they have partners which rebrand their printers and package them with computers
 
2013-06-28 09:15:38 AM
Ounce for ounce, deer urine can cost more than fine champagne.
 
2013-06-28 09:16:31 AM

dj245: IdBeCrazyIf: To be fair, A LOT of research and quality of control go into making sure that the liquid conforms to very tight standards and the bulk of the cost is in the cartridge really. If they wanted to they could develop the same stringent standards in refill kits but then of course that wouldn't make them as much money.

Then why can I get a complete set of ink carts for the Epson 77/78 size for $12 ?  And they worked perfectly well.

Like the article says, Brother seems to be the only company which isn't completely screwing people on ink.  I'm not sure why you would buy an inkjet nowadays anyhow.  A decent B+W laser can be had for less than $100.  A similar machine 15 years ago cost thousands of dollars.


Because you might want to print in color occasionally?
 
2013-06-28 09:17:25 AM
static3.consumerreportscdn.org

A gallon of printer ink is only $9,600.00?  I thought it would be higher.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 09:17:46 AM

Mikey1969: Jesus, what a bunch of babies.


Because not wanting to be bent over by a corporation == being a baby.

"Bend over and take it like a man!  What are you, a communist??"

I *hate* the corporate-centric attitude we've gotten in the U.S... just because a corp. is making money doesn't mean it is good or right.
 
2013-06-28 09:18:25 AM
Really Fark?  I have to post this?

www.freshbooks.com
 
2013-06-28 09:19:07 AM
It costs like $80 to replace all the colors on my canon inkjet with canon ink. Third party ink from amazon costs $10.
 
2013-06-28 09:19:08 AM

d23: I wish I had the source for this headline... maybe it was Fark..

"Tanker carrying printer ink spills on highway.  Loss estimated at one billion dollars."


It was a lot more than a billion:  http://www.fark.com/comments/6950784
 
2013-06-28 09:19:36 AM
He knows, right? He has to, right? He can't be amazed by all this stuff, still.
 
d23 [TotalFark]
2013-06-28 09:20:07 AM

Unfreakable: d23: I wish I had the source for this headline... maybe it was Fark..

"Tanker carrying printer ink spills on highway.  Loss estimated at one billion dollars."

It was a lot more than a billion:  http://www.fark.com/comments/6950784


Thanks for that... being an IT minion it's one of the funniest (and subtle) jokes I've ever seen on Fark...
 
2013-06-28 09:23:15 AM

dj245: Then why can I get a complete set of ink carts for the Epson 77/78 size for $12 ? And they worked perfectly well.

Like the article says, Brother seems to be the only company which isn't completely screwing people on ink. I'm not sure why you would buy an inkjet nowadays anyhow. A decent B+W laser can be had for less than $100. A similar machine 15 years ago cost thousands of dollars.


When my last HP inkjet died, there was a Brother color laser printer on for $200. Which is hardly an insane amount for a color laser. And since I don't print a whole lot, not having to worry about expiring ink cartridges makes that extra bit more than worth it.
 
2013-06-28 09:24:08 AM

PJ-: durbnpoisn: This is so true.  I have three printers in my house.  The ink is running low, or totally our on all of them.  But I would be better off buying a new printer than to go buy the ink.

At the risk of stating something even more obvious...  That is just so stupid it mangles my mind.

It's like giving a car to someone for $15, but charging $100 a gallon for gas.

From my understanding, the ink that is included with a new printer doesn't contain as much ink as buying the toner cartridge separately.  I can't say for sure, but I think it's actually a considerable difference.

My buddy once told me that re-filling ink cartridges isn't a good idea if you don't print very often.  It breaks the seal on the cartridge, therefore allowing ink to evaporate.


This is true.   Your buddy is right.

Another good trick to know about this is that the contacts on the cartridges carrode (they rust).  This makes it appear sometimes as if the cartridge is dead, when in fact, it's just clogged.  If you take the cartredge out and thuroughly clean it with rubbing alcohol, it will magically start working again.
I just pulled this move the other day.
 
2013-06-28 09:24:57 AM

d23


It's not only ink, either. I have an HP color laser at home. I bought it 3-4 years ago and I do so little printing that I am still on the starter cartridges. One day soon, though, I am going to run out of one of the colors. Based on what I have looked up so far it is going to be more economical for me to buy a brand new printer. That's how bad the industry is right now.


No, that's how bad your choice of printer was. I have two laser printers (Brother mono, Samsung color) and the consumables are reasonably priced. The set of cyan/magenta/yellow cartridges for the Samsung is currently $60 on Amazon, and a two-pack of black cartridges is $55. Those are Samsung branded, btw, not 'compatibles' from who knows where.
 
2013-06-28 09:25:28 AM

d23: Mikey1969: Jesus, what a bunch of babies.

Because not wanting to be bent over by a corporation == being a baby.

"Bend over and take it like a man!  What are you, a communist??"

I *hate* the corporate-centric attitude we've gotten in the U.S... just because a corp. is making money doesn't mean it is good or right.


No, because whining about something in a way that isn't relative to the results == being a baby.

Every moron who looks at it like this is looking at it the wrong farking way, and it's assholes spreading misinformation that are causing the issues.
 
2013-06-28 09:26:05 AM
Printer ink is still much cheaper than bull semen.
 
2013-06-28 09:28:51 AM

d23: Thanks for that... being an IT minion it's one of the funniest (and subtle) jokes I've ever seen on Fark...


It was a slam-dunk Headline of the Year candidate, but didn't quite make it. Sad, too, it was fantastic.
 
2013-06-28 09:29:46 AM

d23: Mikey1969: Jesus, what a bunch of babies.

Because not wanting to be bent over by a corporation == being a baby.

"Bend over and take it like a man!  What are you, a communist??"

I *hate* the corporate-centric attitude we've gotten in the U.S... just because a corp. is making money doesn't mean it is good or right.


I'm not a huge fan of corporations bending over consumers either, but this particular issue is probably more the consumers fault. For a good while when inkjets came out, the printer and ink were priced as you would expect. The hardware being expensive and then the ink being cheap... or at least not insanely expensive. Then one of the companies started subsidizing the printer to make it cheaper by jacking up the cost of their ink... and guess which printer we consumers flocked towards? The one that was half the price of its competitors. Wasn't long before every one of them was doing it.
 
2013-06-28 09:33:51 AM
Who needs to print stuff? It's 2013 not 1993.
 
2013-06-28 09:36:46 AM
 
2013-06-28 09:37:32 AM

jayhawk88: I just have a hard time understanding why anyone would even want to use an inkjet printer for any purpose in this day and age, let alone have to buy ink for it.


Because some people run their offices like it's still 1998 (Read: government), and you have to print off forms for everthing, and snail-mail it in.
 
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