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(Deadline)   The Terminator reboot will be released on June 26th 2015, assuming Arnold Schwarzenegger won't need a cane by then   (deadline.com) divider line 67
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2013-06-28 09:46:10 AM  
Anyone one not wearing 2 million sunblock is going to have a real bad day.
 
2013-06-28 09:50:30 AM  
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2013-06-28 10:12:35 AM  
A reboot, really? Can't they just end it with Connor sending Reese back in time and be done with it?
 
2013-06-28 10:14:55 AM  
Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).
 
2013-06-28 10:32:08 AM  
The T-800 has been rebuilt as a Hoveround
 
2013-06-28 10:38:43 AM  
A trilogy? Bad Terminator, then good Terminator, then dead Terminator?
 
2013-06-28 10:40:41 AM  

serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).


It's a franchise built around time travel. They could fix it if they wanted to.
 
2013-06-28 10:51:22 AM  

serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).


How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?
 
2013-06-28 11:06:24 AM  
I liked the first one, second one was okay, liked the third one and the fourth one sucked.
 
2013-06-28 11:18:22 AM  

dittybopper: serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).

How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?


I think this answer will be revealed in X-Men Days of Future Past.
 
2013-06-28 11:31:48 AM  
Ow, me back.
 
2013-06-28 12:04:12 PM  
The rights are supposed to go back to Cameron in a few years who actually has talked about taking the franchise to Avatar level and exploring more of the world of the resistance and the fall of the machines.

These assholes are crash grabbing to prevent that.

Assholes
 
2013-06-28 12:11:53 PM  
I'm down for more terminators but no Arnie and no McG.
 
2013-06-28 12:12:55 PM  
After all the shiat this guy pulled he should be blacklisted from making/profiting off any movies with the slightest bit of violence in them.
 
2013-06-28 12:17:40 PM  
God damnit, why couldn't you just complete the second trilogy?  Sure the 4th one had some MAJOR flaws (the story was ok, could have been much better if 20 minutes longer and taking less shortcuts, but execution by McG was terrible, so many characters underused).  But a 5th and 6th could have been fine under the proper director and the 4th left the story in an ok but not great place.

Paramount, eat my feces you piles of rancid sh*t.
 
2013-06-28 12:20:00 PM  
I've only just now heard of this and I declare it already sucks! I'm going to spend the next 2 years complaining about it on the Internet!
 
2013-06-28 12:26:28 PM  

LDM90: I've only just now heard of this and I declare it already sucks! I'm going to spend the next 2 years complaining about it on the Internet!


Me too! Let's hang!
 
2013-06-28 12:27:45 PM  

coeyagi: but execution by McG was terrible


If by execution you mean ability as a director to reel in crazy actors who think they know better. Bale was responsible for nearly all the rewrites and his character was supposed to die much earlier. And Sam Worthington would find out who he really is, and since hardly no one in the small rag tag 'resistance' had really seen John Conner to that point, the now Terminator would take over and having all the knowledge of Skynet really rally the humans to a true hard core fighting force.
 
2013-06-28 12:40:04 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: coeyagi: but execution by McG was terrible

If by execution you mean ability as a director to reel in crazy actors who think they know better. Bale was responsible for nearly all the rewrites and his character was supposed to die much earlier. And Sam Worthington would find out who he really is, and since hardly no one in the small rag tag 'resistance' had really seen John Conner to that point, the now Terminator would take over and having all the knowledge of Skynet really rally the humans to a true hard core fighting force.


Yeah, I know what the story was supposed to be.  I kinda liked that one too, but I think the story they went with was fundamentally ok but the setup of getting Marcus to bring John Connor to go to Skynet was stupid.  They should have worked on that A LOT more.  And again, use Bryce Dallas Howard more.  Use Common more.  They had nothing really much to do.
 
2013-06-28 12:42:37 PM  
I'm done. Terminator 4 scorched the earth for me. I have no interest in another one.
 
2013-06-28 12:45:31 PM  

coeyagi: Yeah, I know what the story was supposed to be. I kinda liked that one too, but I think the story they went with was fundamentally ok but the setup of getting Marcus to bring John Connor to go to Skynet was stupid. They should have worked on that A LOT more. And again, use Bryce Dallas Howard more. Use Common more. They had nothing really much to do.


I'll admit that much, that the story they did run with could have worked out had they used the characters and changed the pacing and fundamental arc of getting Marcus to bring John to skynet
 
2013-06-28 12:48:05 PM  

coeyagi: God damnit, why couldn't you just complete the second trilogy?  Sure the 4th one had some MAJOR flaws (the story was ok, could have been much better if 20 minutes longer and taking less shortcuts, but execution by McG was terrible, so many characters underused).  But a 5th and 6th could have been fine under the proper director and the 4th left the story in an ok but not great place.

Paramount, eat my feces you piles of rancid sh*t.


Paramountain o' crap.
 
2013-06-28 12:49:02 PM  
I don't understand how Arnold Schwarzenegger can still be playing the Terminator.  He's 66 years old.
 
2013-06-28 12:55:06 PM  
Needs more Summer Glau.
 
2013-06-28 12:57:01 PM  

DecemberNitro: LDM90: I've only just now heard of this and I declare it already sucks! I'm going to spend the next 2 years complaining about it on the Internet!

Me too! Let's hang!


ill bring pizza and vodka
 
2013-06-28 01:10:29 PM  
Doing a REBOOT with the original actor??? Terrible idea
 
2013-06-28 01:14:17 PM  

Odd Bird: Needs more Summer Glau.


So do I.
 
2013-06-28 01:20:10 PM  
I like many movie series, and there are some sequels I like more than the originals.

At this point I just don't care about the Terminator universe any more.  The concept feels like it was stretched and broken long ago.

CSB:
I actually worked as a personal assistant to the first writer of T3 - I think I might have been one of the first people the read the screenplay.  I even made some contributions that made it into the finished film.  HOwever, the finished film was MUCH more over-the-top action, while the script had more insight into the characters.  But that's always the case, isn't it?

/ I used to get free food at restaurants for just mentioning I was working for the writer.
// I had NO pull whatsoever.
/// less now...
 
2013-06-28 01:25:41 PM  

dittybopper: serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).

How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?


Well there's the general rule with time travel sequels that things from the previous movies happened, until somebody during the sequel does something to undo them.  Just starting out in a different timeline and still calling it a sequel wouldn't work.  Especially since previous movies have Judgment Day happening in 2004, you have to send somebody from the already crapped up future to some point prior to 2004 and have them change up some stuff.

I figure with a reboot they'll need a young Sarah Conner who lives in present times and Kyle Reese.  There's absolutely no way anybody would enjoy a movie with a convoluted enough first-5-minutes to make that level of alteration to the timeline we know.
 
2013-06-28 01:28:14 PM  

Odd Bird: Needs more Summer Glau.


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2013-06-28 01:34:46 PM  
I knew your ears would be burning :-)
 
2013-06-28 01:35:36 PM  
Maybe Arnold could play the scientist who designed and built the T-800 for the robots and he designed it on himself?

I dunno
 
2013-06-28 01:49:18 PM  

JolobinSmokin: Maybe Arnold could play the scientist who designed and built the T-800 for the robots and he designed it on himself?

I dunno


Yeah, they've tried the Arnold is a genius/scientist thing already in movies. It doesn't work.
 
2013-06-28 01:51:44 PM  

ThatDarkFellow: JolobinSmokin: Maybe Arnold could play the scientist who designed and built the T-800 for the robots and he designed it on himself?

I dunno

Yeah, they've tried the Arnold is a genius/scientist thing already in movies. It doesn't work.


There was a deleted scene from Terminator 3 where he was a soldier they used as a test subject.
I figure he could pull off being the CEO of Cyberdine at this point in his career.
 
2013-06-28 02:03:09 PM  
Mr. Love Slave, I just want to say... oh lord...

/broke my bunk
 
2013-06-28 02:04:49 PM  

dittybopper: serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).

How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?


Well according to the best Terminator movie ever, Terminator 3 the future is set in stone. No matter what you do Skynet becomes active, blows the world up, and John Conner leads the resistance.
 
2013-06-28 02:08:52 PM  
Reboot?


LAME.


//Terminator 3 rocked.  Eff the haterz.
 
2013-06-28 02:13:24 PM  

serial_crusher: dittybopper: serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).

How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?

Well there's the general rule with time travel sequels that things from the previous movies happened, until somebody during the sequel does something to undo them.  Just starting out in a different timeline and still calling it a sequel wouldn't work.  Especially since previous movies have Judgment Day happening in 2004, you have to send somebody from the already crapped up future to some point prior to 2004 and have them change up some stuff.

I figure with a reboot they'll need a young Sarah Conner who lives in present times and Kyle Reese.  There's absolutely no way anybody would enjoy a movie with a convoluted enough first-5-minutes to make that level of alteration to the timeline we know.


Well if they are doing a reboot why not go back to it's horror movie roots. Have the first five minutes be the Terminator invading an elementary school and shooting up a classroom, every kid and the teacher dead. Really play off the biggest fear and nightmare we have today. Then after two or more schools get shot up have some smart cop figure out that all three classes had a kid called John Conner. Then introduce Reese and have Reese, John and Sarah go on the run from the Terminator.

At least that is what I would do for a reboot.
 
2013-06-28 02:18:11 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: dittybopper: serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).

How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?

Well according to the best Terminator movie ever, Terminator 3 the future is set in stone. No matter what you do Skynet becomes active, blows the world up, and John Conner leads the resistance.


Yeah, that *HAS* to happen at some point, or the terminators will never be sent back into the past.

Also, you'd no longer have a film franchise.

I actually like how T3 handled it.  I like the inevitability of Judgement Day, even if the date slips because of this action or that one.

That's not to say T3 is an excellent film, it's just that I really like the ending.
 
2013-06-28 02:21:55 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Well if they are doing a reboot why not go back to it's horror movie roots. Have the first five minutes be the Terminator invading an elementary school and shooting up a classroom, every kid and the teacher dead. Really play off the biggest fear and nightmare we have today. Then after two or more schools get shot up have some smart cop figure out that all three classes had a kid called John Conner. Then introduce Reese and have Reese, John and Sarah go on the run from the Terminator.

At least that is what I would do for a reboot.


That's actually a pretty damned good idea.
 
2013-06-28 02:26:36 PM  

dittybopper: Slaves2Darkness: dittybopper: serial_crusher: Not sure if I'm happy or sad that it's a reboot rather than a sequel.  They crapped up the movie timeline, but a sequel to the TV series timeline would be nice (you know, except for the dismal ticket sales it would bring).

How can you crap up the time line in a movie about time travel, unless the future is completely predetermined and set in stone?

Well according to the best Terminator movie ever, Terminator 3 the future is set in stone. No matter what you do Skynet becomes active, blows the world up, and John Conner leads the resistance.

Yeah, that *HAS* to happen at some point, or the terminators will never be sent back into the past.

Also, you'd no longer have a film franchise.

I actually like how T3 handled it.  I like the inevitability of Judgement Day, even if the date slips because of this action or that one.

That's not to say T3 is an excellent film, it's just that I really like the ending.


The ending is why I like T3.  It sets everything up perfectly--analog command station to fight a technologically advanced enemy, a destroyed world.

Also props that they had the cajones to actually depict armageddon as real, instead of dreamed as in T2.
 
2013-06-28 02:33:53 PM  

noheadphones: The ending is why I like T3.  It sets everything up perfectly--analog command station to fight a technologically advanced enemy, a destroyed world.

Also props that they had the cajones to actually depict armageddon as real, instead of dreamed as in T2.


Yep.

One of the nice things about HF radio:  You don't need infrastructure for it to work.
 
2013-06-28 02:35:10 PM  

dittybopper: Slaves2Darkness: Well if they are doing a reboot why not go back to it's horror movie roots. Have the first five minutes be the Terminator invading an elementary school and shooting up a classroom, every kid and the teacher dead. Really play off the biggest fear and nightmare we have today. Then after two or more schools get shot up have some smart cop figure out that all three classes had a kid called John Conner. Then introduce Reese and have Reese, John and Sarah go on the run from the Terminator.

At least that is what I would do for a reboot.

That's actually a pretty damned good idea.


It would still have to be set in early 80's though, there is suspension of disbelief that would allow me to accept in an age of twitter, internet, militarized police forces, instant communications that you wouldn't have massive police force show up for the first one, and then when the terminator doesn't go down the farking army roll in with tanks.
 
2013-06-28 02:43:18 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: dittybopper: Slaves2Darkness: Well if they are doing a reboot why not go back to it's horror movie roots. Have the first five minutes be the Terminator invading an elementary school and shooting up a classroom, every kid and the teacher dead. Really play off the biggest fear and nightmare we have today. Then after two or more schools get shot up have some smart cop figure out that all three classes had a kid called John Conner. Then introduce Reese and have Reese, John and Sarah go on the run from the Terminator.

At least that is what I would do for a reboot.

That's actually a pretty damned good idea.

It would still have to be set in early 80's though, there is suspension of disbelief that would allow me to accept in an age of twitter, internet, militarized police forces, instant communications that you wouldn't have massive police force show up for the first one, and then when the terminator doesn't go down the farking army roll in with tanks.


Didn't happen at Sandy Hook or any of the others. People forget how fast death can happen and how slow police really are.
 
2013-06-28 02:46:00 PM  
FTA: "Arnold is playing a human this time the man who the T-1000 was modeled after."

You poor bastich', you have no farkin' clue what you're writing about, aren't you?
 
2013-06-28 02:49:28 PM  
I thought they did it well in T4 where they had Arnold's face mapped onto the body of a younger body-builder. Kind of annoying that it resorted to the "Throw human until dead" but it kinda kills the movie if the protagonist doesn't survive his close encounter. I'm surprised that Arnold hasn't gone with having a body map done of himself that he's sold to be in movies. It's not like there isn't enough footage out there to build one.
 
2013-06-28 02:50:49 PM  

dittybopper: Slaves2Darkness: Well if they are doing a reboot why not go back to it's horror movie roots. Have the first five minutes be the Terminator invading an elementary school and shooting up a classroom, every kid and the teacher dead. Really play off the biggest fear and nightmare we have today. Then after two or more schools get shot up have some smart cop figure out that all three classes had a kid called John Conner. Then introduce Reese and have Reese, John and Sarah go on the run from the Terminator.

At least that is what I would do for a reboot.

That's actually a pretty damned good idea.


Pretty good/chilling idea, but the studios would never go for it because it's TOO disturbing, especially after Sandy Hook.
 
2013-06-28 02:53:10 PM  

Slaves2Darkness: Didn't happen at Sandy Hook or any of the others. People forget how fast death can happen and how slow police really are.


My point is it would be pretty farking hard to hide in this day and age when you take 30 rounds to the chest and head and don't drop. That kind of shiat would be over the wires and a tactical response along with nation wide hunt would occur.

Hell, look at the Boston Bombing response
 
2013-06-28 03:00:23 PM  
Crap. I still haven't seen anything past T2. Maybe I'll just continue reading my gold age sci-fi until this next trilogy hits the $5 bin at Walmartian.
 
2013-06-28 03:10:05 PM  

IdBeCrazyIf: Slaves2Darkness: Didn't happen at Sandy Hook or any of the others. People forget how fast death can happen and how slow police really are.

My point is it would be pretty farking hard to hide in this day and age when you take 30 rounds to the chest and head and don't drop. That kind of shiat would be over the wires and a tactical response along with nation wide hunt would occur.

Hell, look at the Boston Bombing response


But a terminator wouldn't stick around long enough for anyone to see it.

Plus, a school is a *MUCH* different environment than the streets at a large, well attended event.

Think about it:  Terminators are efficient killers, right?  So the terminator knows there is a John Conner in a certain town who is in a certain grade, but may not know what he looks like, or precisely which school or class.  Terminator enters school, shoots any adult that gets in the way (but ignores others), goes into classrooms for grade X, and kills all the male students, then leaves.  Takes all of 5 minutes, and he's already gone before the police can respond.

Alternatively, a single officer or pair on patrol respond, and like the current doctrine for active shooters, they enter immediately but the terminator kills them, and he manages to leave before more units arrive.

While all the cops in town descend on school A, the terminator makes his way to school B, and does the same thing.

At that point, town erupts in chaos, but even with cameras they can't get a good ID on the killer.  Schools get cancelled, and students stay home, so terminator has to shift to other tactics.
 
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