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2013-06-28 10:37:05 AM
Ah; immigration policy this time, not women's issues.
 
2013-06-28 11:30:55 AM
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What are you doing for the Hispanic community?


TACOS!
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2013-06-28 11:35:33 AM
 He cited Proposition 187, a California ballot initiative backed by Republican Governor Pete Wilson that sought to deny public services to illegal immigrants;

I know, he had other bullets, but maybe he could drop this as a cite for today's Republicans, seeing as how it's been 20 years...
 
2013-06-28 11:43:43 AM
Well illegal immigrants can't vote. This is actually a good strategy for the Republicans.

Folks like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are becoming liberal RINOs for support immigration reform.
 
2013-06-28 11:44:57 AM
There is the other element that the word "immigrant" in the GOP circles has become synonymous with "job-stealing Hispanics" there is no talk about really any other form of immigrant.
 
2013-06-28 11:50:58 AM
This taco story really pops.

/it's Friday. I'm lazy
 
2013-06-28 11:51:20 AM
It doesn't matter what the repubs do, they will never, ever, ever, ever, win the Hispanic vote in this country for the foreseeable future. Hell, with their mistreatment of Marco Rubio and Mario Diaz-Balart, they're teetering on the edge of losing the Cuban vote. Repub strategy has been reduced to tormenting their opponents for the hell of it while nailing down the gerrymandering to secure their phoney-baloney jobs in the House and at the state level. For the next ten or twelve years we will be subjected to the sound of repub fingernails scraping the sidewalk as they are dragged one by one out of their safe districts. And then maybe we'll be able to get things accomplished.
 
2013-06-28 11:59:51 AM
Tacos are pretty crucial to success.
 
2013-06-28 12:09:10 PM
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Tacos rule!
 
2013-06-28 12:09:22 PM

abb3w: Ah; immigration policy this time, not women's issues.


I'm sure the gop will be just as retarded and vile.
 
2013-06-28 12:11:09 PM
Sean Trende has trolled the everloving fark out of the GOP.  He wrote a series of articles arguing that if Republicans go all in and give the finger to Hispanics, they will make white people love them enough that they'll win elections for the next 25 years.

So, that's what they are going with.
 
2013-06-28 12:12:13 PM
Noticed that the two white Senators from Texas were missing from the list of approving votes.
 
2013-06-28 12:20:12 PM
There seems to be some punctuation missing.
 
2013-06-28 12:39:31 PM

Funk Brothers: Well illegal immigrants can't vote. This is actually a good strategy for the Republicans.

Folks like Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity are becoming liberal RINOs for support immigration reform.


NOPE. Because "Busting Illegals" also means "Breaking up US Families" and "Institutionalizing racism against Latin-Americans". It's been more about Jingoism than nationalism. After all, this is why the GOP is basically providing lip-service to Immigration--They like illegal immigrant--Low wages, low education, completely disposable, allowing companies to basically make Maquiladoras here in the USA.

The GOP doesn't want immigration reform because that would lead to educated minorites who could now vote, and have even more economic power. Needless to say, that scares the crap out of them and their white-skinned, white-haired supporters who still think America should be like "Leave it to Beaver". (PROTIP: It never was)
 
2013-06-28 12:40:12 PM
How about we hear from a woman against women's rights...who also doesn't like gays or Latinos...not to mention "the blacks?"

http://wonkette.com/521067/phyllis-schlafly-abandons-gay-bashing-for -a -brief-moment-to-be-terrible-to-latinos-instead

Schlafly reiterated her belief that Latinos are actually not a worthwhile pursuit for the party.

"They don't have any Republican inclinations at all," she said, "they're running an illegitimacy rate that's just about the same as the blacks are."

"They come from a country where they have no experience with limited government. And the types of rights we have in the Bill of Rights, they don't understand that at all, you can't even talk to them about what the Republican principle is."
 
2013-06-28 12:48:55 PM
Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.

Extremely religious. Very family oriented often with large families, which means they need to work like dogs or their kids starve. They love guns, pickup trucks, cowboy hats, cowboy boots and beer. They come from a land with so little law and order as to almost be a libertarian paradise, often with little education and a nearly worshipful adulation of personality cults.

You people are seriously, seriously, seriously failing by alienating them. I mean, shiat the bed, roll around in it, eat some, get some in your dickhole, and die of a urinary tract infection kind of fail.
 
2013-06-28 01:03:49 PM

rufus-t-firefly: How about we hear from a woman against women's rights...who also doesn't like gays or Latinos...not to mention "the blacks?"

http://wonkette.com/521067/phyllis-schlafly-abandons-gay-bashing-for -a -brief-moment-to-be-terrible-to-latinos-instead

Schlafly reiterated her belief that Latinos are actually not a worthwhile pursuit for the party.

"They don't have any Republican inclinations at all," she said, "they're running an illegitimacy rate that's just about the same as the blacks are."

"They come from a country where they have no experience with limited government. And the types of rights we have in the Bill of Rights, they don't understand that at all, you can't even talk to them about what the Republican principle is."


The 'Republican Principle' is I got mine, fark y'all. That's precisely the principle on which the Mexican gov't and economy are based. They understand perfectly.
 
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2013-06-28 01:11:23 PM
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Am I doing this right?
 
2013-06-28 01:12:48 PM
Of course a "no taco" strategy would be bad. It would hamper Republican efforts to put on the ritz.
 
2013-06-28 01:18:29 PM
Even if 100% of Republicans changed their minds tomorrow, there would still be hell to pay for what they have said and done in the past few years.

Somewhere along the way they realized they messed up big time and decided those votes were lost and doubled down on preventing non-citizens from becoming citizens.  It will not work.   The best hope Republicans have is to take the moderate wing of their party and break off into a new party which does not have the baggage of the one today.  Follow the model of the Dixiecrats.
 
2013-06-28 01:21:51 PM
The GOP can win by doubling-down on the white vote, while at the same time suppressing the minority vote
 
2013-06-28 01:26:31 PM

neongoats: Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.


Hispanic support for marriage equality, choice, gun control, public schools, universal healthcare, and their 3-to-1 vote for president Obama prove your point? The truth is that the GOP doesn't want an increase in hispanic voters because they're brown AND they're liberal.
 
2013-06-28 01:45:14 PM
Both of my TN (R) senators voted for the immigration bill.  I was surprised and happy, but my Tea Party co-workers are up in arms.

/bathing in their tears
 
2013-06-28 01:47:56 PM
DON'T YOU LISTEN TO THESE PRO-IMMIGRANT TYPES, REPUBLICANS.

STAY THE COURSE.  YOU'RE WINNING!
 
2013-06-28 01:49:11 PM

neongoats: Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.

Extremely religious. Very family oriented often with large families, which means they need to work like dogs or their kids starve. They love guns, pickup trucks, cowboy hats, cowboy boots and beer. They come from a land with so little law and order as to almost be a libertarian paradise, often with little education and a nearly worshipful adulation of personality cults.

You people are seriously, seriously, seriously failing by alienating them. I mean, shiat the bed, roll around in it, eat some, get some in your dickhole, and die of a urinary tract infection kind of fail.


Yes, but you see, I love guns, pickup trucks, cowboy hats, cowboy boots and beer. I live in Austin. I am also incredibly liberal. You forget that while Hispanics are religious and hard working, they also believe in things like the US Government, and trying to earn a better future for their kids. Most come from Mexico, to escape the Maquiladoras and the big Gringo companies that want to pay them cents when they can come to the USA and make dollars. They aren't exactly thrilled with the folks who want to make US wage inequality like Mexico's...And yeah, those are the same folks that hate them for being "Brown".

Furthermore, the Jesus angle can't work for the GOP because Hispanic immigrants are Catholic. Meaning--Yes, they aren't cool with gays and abortion, but Hispanics feel strongly about helping the poor, which runs contrary to the Randian leaning of the GOP, and think Evangelical Dominionist theory is nothing short of heresy. Sure, in later generations, Hispanics tend to go Protestant, but also later generation Hispanics also become more educated, and still do not lose their liberal leanings.

The GOP can't win over Hispanics--They need to change their entire racial theory. It's fundamentally flawed--Not just Hispanics, but Blacks, Women, Gays, and effectively any other minority. It doesn't matter who or what you are, the entire Racial theory of the GOP is still trapped in immediate post-war America. Like I said, "Leave it to Beaver" world.
 
2013-06-28 01:51:45 PM

Hollie Maea: Sean Trende has trolled the everloving fark out of the GOP.  He wrote a series of articles arguing that if Republicans go all in and give the finger to Hispanics, they will make white people love them enough that they'll win elections for the next 25 years.


Thanks for pointing the articles out for the lulz.  He can't figure out why the whites in the rust belt/midwest aren't coming out to the polls in the numbers they used to.  And he can't figure it out because he's a coastal pundit.

It was partially Romney.  But, it was more than Romney.  Sure, some poor people vote.  Some.  But, by and large?  Voting, caring about politics, all that jazz?  Is a very middle-class thing to do.

After 30 years of NAFTA, Walmart, and Cargill, the middle class is a dying breed from western NY to New Mexico.  The children of the former middle-class church-going folks are having kids at 19, moving into trailers, going to ICP shows, etc. I see the generational slide down in many of my relatives. They're becoming... unlikely voters.  In constantly shiatting on the base's interest, they're creating apathetic poors who, no matter how much you try to get them riled up, don't vote very often or reliably.
 
2013-06-28 01:53:00 PM

Notabunny: neongoats: Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.

Hispanic support for marriage equality, choice, gun control, public schools, universal healthcare, and their 3-to-1 vote for president Obama prove your point? The truth is that the GOP doesn't want an increase in hispanic voters because they're brown AND they're liberal.


They're liberal because the GOP has driven them there. They know that the GOP's life goal is to keep them marginalized. Illegal non voting non people, not eligible for any kind of anything, but tending the big bosses ranch for 20 cents an hour under the table. A wiser GOP might have bothered to look at demographic projections 20 years ago and actually taken them to heart. And then bent over backwards to woo what could have been the GOP's army for the 21st century.

They SHOULD have adapted their Southern Strategy skillz and heavily courted the latino community starting in the 80s. They could have destroyed liberalism in America.
 
2013-06-28 02:09:10 PM

IlGreven: He cited Proposition 187, a California ballot initiative backed by Republican Governor Pete Wilson that sought to deny public services to illegal immigrants;

I know, he had other bullets, but maybe he could drop this as a cite for today's Republicans, seeing as how it's been 20 years...


A criminal conviction from 20 years ago will still keep you from getting jobs, places to live, etc.

So I think it's only fair the same standard be applied to politicians.
 
2013-06-28 02:15:35 PM

neongoats: Notabunny: neongoats: Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.

Hispanic support for marriage equality, choice, gun control, public schools, universal healthcare, and their 3-to-1 vote for president Obama prove your point? The truth is that the GOP doesn't want an increase in hispanic voters because they're brown AND they're liberal.

They're liberal because the GOP has driven them there. They know that the GOP's life goal is to keep them marginalized. Illegal non voting non people, not eligible for any kind of anything, but tending the big bosses ranch for 20 cents an hour under the table. A wiser GOP might have bothered to look at demographic projections 20 years ago and actually taken them to heart. And then bent over backwards to woo what could have been the GOP's army for the 21st century.

They SHOULD have adapted their Southern Strategy skillz and heavily courted the latino community starting in the 80s. They could have destroyed liberalism in America.


The GOP is playing catch-up now through gerrymandering and voter suppression. The good news for them is that the courts support gerrymandering and voter suppression.
 
2013-06-28 02:36:22 PM

Tannhauser: Both of my TN (R) senators voted for the immigration bill.  I was surprised and happy, but my Tea Party co-workers are up in arms.

/bathing in their tears


You know, considering how messed up the Senators for your northerly neighbors are, I guess we do have to be thankful for your contributions.

//Isn't Lamar retiring though?
 
2013-06-28 02:49:14 PM
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GOP's new Hispanic spokesperson...
 
2013-06-28 03:04:21 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixi9_cciy8w&feature=player_embedded

The video linked in the article is really worth a watch.
 
2013-06-28 03:12:07 PM

IlGreven:  He cited Proposition 187, a California ballot initiative backed by Republican Governor Pete Wilson that sought to deny public services to illegal immigrants;

I know, he had other bullets, but maybe he could drop this as a cite for today's Republicans, seeing as how it's been 20 years...


Hispanics still remember this bullshait which is the main catalyst for them becoming a prominent voting block.
 
2013-06-28 03:17:52 PM

neongoats: They SHOULD have adapted their Southern Strategy skillz


The problem is that there was very little skillz involved in dog-whistling 'hey, southern whites, hey northern whites...  you're all white and the civil war was a century ago... let's all vote for Nixon'. Atwater and Rove have sold it as "looked at our political prowess", not a blind squirrel finding a nut.

Nothing like the skillz needed to hold together the FDR coalition of urban minorities  and KKK members  and many other disparate groups within the New Deal.  That'd be the kind of skillz you needed to get substantial latino and substantial xenophobe votes in one coalition.
 
2013-06-28 03:57:40 PM

Notabunny: neongoats: Notabunny: neongoats: Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.

Hispanic support for marriage equality, choice, gun control, public schools, universal healthcare, and their 3-to-1 vote for president Obama prove your point? The truth is that the GOP doesn't want an increase in hispanic voters because they're brown AND they're liberal.

They're liberal because the GOP has driven them there. They know that the GOP's life goal is to keep them marginalized. Illegal non voting non people, not eligible for any kind of anything, but tending the big bosses ranch for 20 cents an hour under the table. A wiser GOP might have bothered to look at demographic projections 20 years ago and actually taken them to heart. And then bent over backwards to woo what could have been the GOP's army for the 21st century.

They SHOULD have adapted their Southern Strategy skillz and heavily courted the latino community starting in the 80s. They could have destroyed liberalism in America.

The GOP is playing catch-up now through gerrymandering and voter suppression. The good news for them is that the courts support gerrymandering and voter suppression.


The bad news is that every American hates gerrymandering and voter suppression. You think anybody is gonna vote GOP after being forced to wait 10 hours in line by those asshats to vote?

And the further bad news is that this is all Reagan's fault--Latinos still remember Governor Reagan eating grapes with the Seagrams people while the Grapes boycott was in full bloom. Reagan completely ignored the demographics and proposals like Prop 187 were nutured under his wing. So, Hispanic Americans have undergone nearly 40 years of institutionalized racism from the GOP. It's safe to say that the GOP won't get the hispanic vote for another 40 years, and I seriously doubt the GOP will actually survive for 20 more years.
 
2013-06-28 04:12:10 PM
Worse is the GOP's no "pink tacos" strategy.
 
2013-06-28 04:18:19 PM

Wessoman: Notabunny: neongoats: Notabunny: neongoats: Seriously. I mean, far be it for me to like, want to HELP the GOP in their fundamentalist rush to destroy America with jesus and guns, but Latinos really are almost ideal republicans right out of the package. Aside from being all brown and shiat.

Hispanic support for marriage equality, choice, gun control, public schools, universal healthcare, and their 3-to-1 vote for president Obama prove your point? The truth is that the GOP doesn't want an increase in hispanic voters because they're brown AND they're liberal.

They're liberal because the GOP has driven them there. They know that the GOP's life goal is to keep them marginalized. Illegal non voting non people, not eligible for any kind of anything, but tending the big bosses ranch for 20 cents an hour under the table. A wiser GOP might have bothered to look at demographic projections 20 years ago and actually taken them to heart. And then bent over backwards to woo what could have been the GOP's army for the 21st century.

They SHOULD have adapted their Southern Strategy skillz and heavily courted the latino community starting in the 80s. They could have destroyed liberalism in America.

The GOP is playing catch-up now through gerrymandering and voter suppression. The good news for them is that the courts support gerrymandering and voter suppression.

The bad news is that every American hates gerrymandering and voter suppression. You think anybody is gonna vote GOP after being forced to wait 10 hours in line by those asshats to vote?

And the further bad news is that this is all Reagan's fault--Latinos still remember Governor Reagan eating grapes with the Seagrams people while the Grapes boycott was in full bloom. Reagan completely ignored the demographics and proposals like Prop 187 were nutured under his wing. So, Hispanic Americans have undergone nearly 40 years of institutionalized racism from the GOP. It's safe to say that the GOP won't get the hispanic vote for an ...


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/Disagrees
 
2013-06-28 05:03:10 PM
Pretty stunning video.  They both sounded like they understood the problem, the humanity involved, how the aliens were contributing to the U.S., and made sensible suggestions about how to improve the situation and remove millions of workers from the shadows.  Contrast that with the voice of nearly all of the modern Republican Party.  How could they have lost so much ground?  What changed?
 
2013-06-28 05:58:37 PM

Wessoman: Notabunny: neongoats: Notabunny: neongoats:
The bad news is that every American hates gerrymandering and voter suppression.


Unfortunately, they don't ask our opinion on it before they enact it.  And while plenty of people would nominally dislike gerrymandering, as long as the GOP repeats "terrurist mooslims took your jerbs" into the cameras often enough, those same people won't summon up the willpower to vote any different.

I had something long-winded typed up here, but I think I'd rather drop offline and go find groceries.
 
2013-06-28 06:16:09 PM
This is fantastic:

conservatives4palin.com
 
2013-06-28 06:34:42 PM

Fart_Machine: IlGreven:  He cited Proposition 187, a California ballot initiative backed by Republican Governor Pete Wilson that sought to deny public services to illegal immigrants;

I know, he had other bullets, but maybe he could drop this as a cite for today's Republicans, seeing as how it's been 20 years...

Hispanics still remember this bullshait which is the main catalyst for them becoming a prominent voting block.


Yeah, and Republicans were warned about this in the late 90s. . .

Democrats who had arrogantly assumed that standard-issue minority politics would easily pull Hispanics into the party fold were proved wrong throughout the 1980s. Hispanic voters turned out to be disproportionately entrepreneurial and disproportionately receptive to Republican family-values rhetoric, and gave the party roughly a third of their votes in the three presidential elections from 1980 to 1988. Leaving aside Puerto Ricans and Dominicans in New York, who do fit the Democrats' minority paradigm, the Republicans were doing better with the Hispanic vote than might be expected.

But the Republicans in the 104th Congress tried to shore up their Texas and California right wings with hostile rhetoric on immigration. They passed legislation that sought to deprive not just illegal but also legal immigrants of federal benefits. (Newt Gingrich and other Republicans backpedaled in 1997, reversing some of the measures, but the damage was done.) And California's Proposition 187, supported by Republican Governor Pete Wilson and aimed at denying benefits to illegal immigrants, brought angry Hispanics to the polls in unprecedented numbers. Clinton took 72 percent of the Hispanic vote nationwide, including 81 percent in Arizona and 75 percent in California; he took 78 percent of Hispanics under thirty. He nearly split the Hispanic vote even in Florida, where 97 percent of the Cuban population voted for Reagan in 1984.

The hardening loyalty of Hispanics is a catastrophe for the Republicans' presidential prospects.

http://www.theatlantic.com/past/docs/issues/98jun/gop.htm

/Granted, they got a bigger share of the Hispanic vote with Bush, but they pissed it away again.
 
2013-06-28 07:25:16 PM
Chief speechwriter for George W. Bush: No taco strategy bad for Republicans

Are they calling it this yet?  God, I hope they start calling it this.
 
2013-06-28 10:30:29 PM
Wow, I really care what that irrelevant dipshiat has to say.
 
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