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(ABC)   Congratulations North Carolina. You're the first state to drop federal unemployment funding. Congratulations unemployed North Carolinians, you're the first to get completely hosed by your own state   (abcnews.go.com) divider line 67
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2013-06-28 11:28:23 AM
5 votes:

Tannhauser: So states competing for business is 'destroying capitalism'?


No, states racing to the bottom and catering to the every whim of business is why capitalism is destroying the country (not destroying capitalism as you stated, though i would love to see capitalism destroyed).  They are also trampling over the rights of workers to form unions (please see the first amendment, freedom of association).  For instance, when the Employee Free Choice Act (you might have to do a little research for yourself, sorry) was being debated in congress republicans called it the "greatest threat to democracy."  Why? Because it made it easier to form unions.  God forbid we actually let people collectively bargain and force businesses to pay a living wage, that would just be unAmerican.
2013-06-28 10:06:43 AM
5 votes:
In six months: Crime has reached an all time high in North Carolina as tens of thousands of out of work North Carolinians take to robbing those with jobs.

In eight months: Tax paying North Carolinians demand more police protection from the hordes of thieving criminals.

In ten months: Hundreds of local politicians are tossed after raising taxes to pay for increased police forces and crime prevention.
2013-06-28 10:04:19 AM
5 votes:
Once a slave state, always a slave state.
2013-06-28 12:15:40 PM
3 votes:

Tannhauser: So states competing for business is 'destroying capitalism'?


When states are willing to give businesses anything they want while expecting nothing in return, indeed acting as if businesses are outside of society and not subject to any sort of ethical or moral norms, then yes they are.
2013-06-28 11:01:54 AM
3 votes:

Rixel: Quite a race to the bottom you all are having down south!  It's exciting!


Sad thing is that they are dragging the rest of the country down with them.  Companies want to move their to take advantage of the low tax rates and the right to work laws thereby making northern states have to lower corporate taxes and introduce right to work legislation to compete.  Capitalism is destroying the country, make no mistake about it.
2013-06-28 10:08:15 AM
3 votes:
That state has lost its freaking mind.

Unfortunately, it has a lot of company with other Republican led states such as Wisconsin, Kansas, etc, etc.
2013-06-28 10:08:05 AM
3 votes:
They'd better increase security at the Governer's mansion, because things are gonna go all World War Z when the poor revolt.
2013-06-28 01:22:18 PM
2 votes:

meat0918: Fast forward a few months, and the likely questions coming from NC will be "Why is our state economy not doing better" and "Why has crime risen?"

Do they really, REALLY think that people are sitting on those extended UI benefits instead of looking for work?


Yup.

I have heard many stories about people who have heard of other people who go on unemployment, and once they go on they make more money than they could working, so they stay on it as long as possible.  Same with welfare. And food stamps.

I've heard about these people from my family, from fark, from facebook, from work...  I've yet to see an actual real example of it, but I sure do hear a lot of stories.  The closest I've been to an actual real example was from my mother, when she told me about her friend's cousin's daughter, who preferred to be on welfare so she could stay at home and smoke pot. I've also heard from my step-grandmother that her daughter's (from another marriage) friend was once on UI, and all she did was submit a single application once a week to "show progress" to the state that she was really looking for work, while she just sat on UI until the benefits ran out.  I doubt any of these are true.

So yeah, people really do think that many on extended UI benefits are just sitting on it instead of looking for work.
2013-06-28 12:47:24 PM
2 votes:
Every life is precious, while in the womb. Once you get squirted out, Republicans don't really give a shiat whether you live or die.
2013-06-28 12:45:26 PM
2 votes:

King Something: Xythero: So people can't make their mortgage payments and get forclosed.  Which makes the economy worse.  Which causes more unemployment.  I'm not sure the NC legislature followed the domino trail far enough.

The first domino is "hurt poor people." They're Republicans, they don't care about the rest of the domino trail.



Nah. The first domino is "I've got mine so fark everyone else." Then comes tax cuts for the rich. Then comes deregulation of all the things. THEN comes hurt poor people.
2013-06-28 12:38:56 PM
2 votes:
I moved to NC earlier this month from the 'north' for a job. Work is going well, no worries there. But I am beginning to think that this place is full of backwards little people who wll believe a lot of the things they hear.
2013-06-28 12:18:10 PM
2 votes:

Sliding Carp: Tannhauser: FarkedOver: Tannhauser: So states competing for business is 'destroying capitalism'?

No, states racing to the bottom and catering to the every whim of business is why capitalism is destroying the country (not destroying capitalism as you stated, though i would love to see capitalism destroyed).

Going to use small sentences so folks won't read anything into my post that's not intended.

What form of government would you prefer to take over?

Why do you believe 'capitalism' is a form of government?


From what I have gathered living in the US my whole life capitalism is defined as follows:

Capitalism: The act of defining profits as being more important than human life.

So more a mental disorder than a form of government.
2013-06-28 12:12:37 PM
2 votes:

Tannhauser: FarkedOver: Tannhauser: So states competing for business is 'destroying capitalism'?

No, states racing to the bottom and catering to the every whim of business is why capitalism is destroying the country (not destroying capitalism as you stated, though i would love to see capitalism destroyed).

Going to use small sentences so folks won't read anything into my post that's not intended.

What form of government would you prefer to take over?


Why do you believe 'capitalism' is a form of government?
2013-06-28 12:04:14 PM
2 votes:

coeyagi: imontheinternet: I would love to hear the phone conversation between an angry, unemployed NC "small gubmint" Republican and the government worker who has to explain to him why his unemployment check didn't come.

Me too.  It would go like this:

GOP Unemployed:  "WHAR Check?"
Government Worker:  "North Carolina residents can no longer receive federal unemployment funds."
GOP Unemployed: "Say what there, fella?  I worked a long time at the Cheetos factory and then they laid me off because of the socialist policies of Obummer. Where's me check?"
Government Worker: "Sir, I have been told that the State Legislature of North Carolina decided to forego federal funding for the unemployed."
GOP Unemployed: "SAY WHAT!?! Now hold on, dem dems did this, didn't they?  I knew those Raleigh commies would screw things up."
Government Worker: "Sir, I am no political science major, but I believe your governor is Republican and legilsature is controlled by Republicans."
GOP Unemployed:  "Yeah, so they're lookin' after our coffers, trying to make sure there aren't any cheaters getting freebies."
Government Worker:  "Sir, while you were carrying on like a buffoon, I checked and there aren't any Cheetos factories in North Carolina.  Care to revise your statement about freeloaders, sir?"


Hahaha.  He'd then tell all his friends and family that one of Obama's socialist agents screwed him out of his check.
2013-06-28 12:02:33 PM
2 votes:

Tannhauser: What form of government would you prefer to take over?


I'm 100% for a workers state.
2013-06-28 11:59:56 AM
2 votes:

imontheinternet: I would love to hear the phone conversation between an angry, unemployed NC "small gubmint" Republican and the government worker who has to explain to him why his unemployment check didn't come.


Me too.  It would go like this:

GOP Unemployed:  "WHAR Check?"
Government Worker:  "North Carolina residents can no longer receive federal unemployment funds."
GOP Unemployed: "Say what there, fella?  I worked a long time at the Cheetos factory and then they laid me off because of the socialist policies of Obummer. Where's me check?"
Government Worker: "Sir, I have been told that the State Legislature of North Carolina decided to forego federal funding for the unemployed."
GOP Unemployed: "SAY WHAT!?! Now hold on, dem dems did this, didn't they?  I knew those Raleigh commies would screw things up."
Government Worker: "Sir, I am no political science major, but I believe your governor is Republican and legilsature is controlled by Republicans."
GOP Unemployed:  "Yeah, so they're lookin' after our coffers, trying to make sure there aren't any cheaters getting freebies."
Government Worker:  "Sir, while you were carrying on like a buffoon, I checked and there aren't any Cheetos factories in North Carolina.  Care to revise your statement about freeloaders, sir?"
2013-06-28 11:48:46 AM
2 votes:

wingnut396: thiefofdreams: At what point do we rebuild the government of the people, by the people, for the people.

Its happening now.  Corporations are people my friend.


I thought of that right after I posted it.

Dammit Citizen United had way more reach than most thought.
2013-06-28 11:33:35 AM
2 votes:
U.S. Congress: "Let's help states with unemployment benefits for the long-term unemployed. But to make sure they don't take advantage, we'll set some minimal requirements. No one would be so stupid as to throw away all this federal money that would help their constituents."

North Dakota Legislature: "Challenge accepted."
2013-06-28 10:59:20 AM
2 votes:
I can't wait until NC finds out that a portion of the people on unemployment are white tea party patriots.

Republicans can go suck a big fat hairy donkey cock.

Also, this law was basically written by the NC Chamber of Commerce collective and pushed through the lobby to get voted on.

"The legislation was based on a plan released last year by the North Carolina Chamber of Commerce, and Chamber lobbyists and employer representatives worked with Republican lawmakers, who have controlling majorities in the legislature, to write the bill.  It was put on a fast track at the opening of the 2013 legislative session - without public hearings or comment, and with no input from advocates for unemployed workers, employees or labor groups. "

At what point do we rebuild the government of the people, by the people, for the people.
2013-06-28 10:57:00 AM
2 votes:
I cant wait for the dawning realization the redneck trash of the state that voted for those cretins will experience as they realize that all this 'welfare' they have been trying to get rid of because it goes to 'teh nigras' and 'messicans' actually include money THEY were getting too.
2013-06-28 10:40:18 AM
2 votes:

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: Unfortunately, it has a lot of company with other Republican ALEC led states such as Wisconsin, Kansas, etc, etc.


FTFY

/seriously fark those guys
2013-06-28 10:32:56 AM
2 votes:
I would love to hear the phone conversation between an angry, unemployed NC "small gubmint" Republican and the government worker who has to explain to him why his unemployment check didn't come.
2013-06-28 10:11:16 AM
2 votes:

Xythero: So people can't make their mortgage payments and get forclosed.  Which makes the economy worse.  Which causes more unemployment.  I'm not sure the NC legislature followed the domino trail far enough.


The first domino is "hurt poor people." They're Republicans, they don't care about the rest of the domino trail.
2013-06-28 09:47:44 PM
1 votes:

Rhino_man: Headso: So what's the deal, they are running too big of a debt to qualify for the federal payments?

They're running a debt, and they're drawing from a Federal program to extend unemployment benefits until January.  They chose to make drastic cuts to the state's unemployment program NOW, which triggers the "no cuts" provision in the Federal program and kicks everybody off NEXT WEEK.

Basically, all they had to do was nothing, and the Federal benefits would have lasted for another 6 months.  In stead, they chose to say "fark 'em for being poor."


1.  Vote for Republican asshats.
2.  Republican asshats pass laws that will do not truly address budgetary issues of the state.
3.  Republican asshats pass laws that will not benefit the people of the state.
4.  Repeat from step 1.

It happened in Kansas, it's happening here.  I'd be willing to bet that the more people that suffer because of this, the better the Republicans do next election (probably by blaming some minority).  Stupid people don't belong in government, especially when their entire platform is that government needs to be destroyed because it is bad.
2013-06-28 09:41:52 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: Fast forward a few months, and the likely questions coming from NC will be "Why is our state economy not doing better" and "Why has crime risen?"

Do they really, REALLY think that people are sitting on those extended UI benefits instead of looking for work?


Yes. Conservative Party supporters in Canada think the same way about Employment Insurance (essentially the same as UI in this instance) and regularly want to make Canadian EI as difficult as possible to get, not realizing or caring that EI is pretty much what keeps seasonal work in Canada functioning. It's Corporate Welfare given to the Employee's, not to the Companies.

When it comes right down to it, there are arguments against the SIZE of the UI/EI provided to unemployed people, but taking away the very existence of UI/EI is one of those Very. Bad. Things. which deserves capitalization and dramatic pauses.
2013-06-28 09:30:19 PM
1 votes:

Headso: So what's the deal, they are running too big of a debt to qualify for the federal payments?


They're running a debt, and they're drawing from a Federal program to extend unemployment benefits until January.  They chose to make drastic cuts to the state's unemployment program NOW, which triggers the "no cuts" provision in the Federal program and kicks everybody off NEXT WEEK.

Basically, all they had to do was nothing, and the Federal benefits would have lasted for another 6 months.  In stead, they chose to say "fark 'em for being poor."
2013-06-28 07:49:50 PM
1 votes:
Next up:  Get rid of those pesky job-killing federal regulations, like OSHA, FDA and the EPA, get rid of any worker protections against abuse, and get rid of the minimum wage, and BOOM!  Republican paradise.  That'll teach 'em to vote for that Obummer!

/BOOTSTRAPS!
2013-06-28 07:25:10 PM
1 votes:

cc_rider: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: That state has lost its freaking mind.

Unfortunately, it has a lot of company with other Republican led states such as Wisconsin, Kansas, etc, etc.

This bill was supposedly drafted by the NC Chamber of Commerce (aka ALEC). This may just be the "test case" for other states to follow. I hope I'm wrong about this, but the recent political climate makes me think I am not.

Bastards.


While this thread appears to be dead, I at least wanted to visit this point. It is a test case. WI is toying around with implementing the variable max-claim stuff that I saw mentioned in the article (though strangely enough they are actually upping the max weekly benefit by $7). When I first saw it mentioned here in WI I was wondering if we were the test case, looks like NC just got there first. Expect to see more of this in any state that doesn't already treat UI as a plague.
2013-06-28 06:45:05 PM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: You're seriously going to derive enjoyment from someone being unemployed, just because they vaguely belong to a set of people that contains a few anonymous internet-users who have made fun of you in the past?


Payback's a biatch, ain't it?
2013-06-28 05:52:46 PM
1 votes:

LouDobbsAwaaaay: Yes, I'm sure only good things have ever come from cutting your state's unemployment compensation off at the knees.


During a period of high unemployment, no less.
Do they think local economies are just going to bootstrap themselves into prosperity or the charred remains are going to attract employers?
2013-06-28 05:20:22 PM
1 votes:

Esc7: So let me get this straight. The Feds hand over free money for unemployment if you meet a modicum of benefits as a state. Kinda like matching funds?

And NC decided to give up this free money why? So it can pay back debt to the Feds from the Great Depression? If they've gone this long it doesn't strike me as that urgent.


It isn't free, it has to be paid back, and as the article notes, they've already rung up 2.5 billion in debt on this program. This is a measure to keep from running the bill up even further, and a bunch of hysterical Farkers here think the Earth is going to tilt off its axis as a result.
2013-06-28 05:00:47 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: I've only got one example, but it's not they refused to work while on UI. Quite the opposite.

My brother-in-law, but he wasn't making more money taking in UI than working. He was working under the table while drawing benefits. Well, during this time my in-laws had taken him back in, then my mother in law found out, and kicked him out. She didn't report him to the state though. It would have destroyed her marriage, which would have been so very, very awful (is there a sarcasm font yet?).

My father did the same thing in the mid-80s. He did odd jobs and farmed with his dad while laid off from automotive work.

I'd wager a whole lot more people are drawing benefits and have an unreported job to help make ends meet more than just sitting there drawing benefits.


I can see that; it wouldn't surprise me that those who can get under the table work would, while collecting UI.  Of course, that under the table work is usually sporadic at best.
2013-06-28 04:44:44 PM
1 votes:

James F. Campbell: It warms the cockles of my heart to see an STEM worker unemployed.


1) That's pretty messed up
2) There are a lot of math majors who end up unemployed, because a pure math background is not as easily transferable to a job
3) Seriously, that's pretty messed up

I'm sure the "lol you want fries with that" jokes get old, but c'mon.  You're seriously going to derive enjoyment from someone being unemployed, just because they vaguely belong to a set of people that contains a few anonymous internet-users who have made fun of you in the past?
2013-06-28 04:18:46 PM
1 votes:
FTA: Lee Creighton, 45, of Cary, said he's been unemployed since October, and this is the last week for which he'll get nearly $500 in unemployment aid. He said he was laid off from a position managing statisticians and writers amid the recession's worst days in 2009 and has landed and lost a series of government and teaching jobs since then - work that paid less half as much. His parents help him buy groceries to get by.

"I'm just not sure what I'm going to do," said Creighton, who has a doctorate. "What are we to do? Is the state prepared to have this many people with no source of income?"


I looked this guy up, and his doctorate is in mathematics. It warms the cockles of my heart to see an STEM worker unemployed.
2013-06-28 04:13:05 PM
1 votes:
Congratulations North Carolina. You're the first state to drop federal unemployment funding

Sheeeeit.

That said, there really are truly backward thinking people who should never be in positions of power.
2013-06-28 03:28:27 PM
1 votes:

mediablitz: In most states, you can work part time and still get benefits. You can be "self-employed" and not have to claim the money against your self employment.


This is true in NC (or at least was a couple years ago). You got a weekly earnings allowance that was based on your former salary but not capped like the benefit itself it (so mine was in the $300/week range). You can earn up to that much part-time or self-employed without reducing your UI check. Any amount earned above that reduces your check dollar for dollar, but adds that back in on the back end of your eligibility, so it's not lost.
2013-06-28 02:55:00 PM
1 votes:

meat0918: My brother-in-law, but he wasn't making more money taking in UI than working. He was working under the table while drawing benefits. Well, during this time my in-laws had taken him back in, then my mother in law found out, and kicked him out. She didn't report him to the state though. It would have destroyed her marriage, which would have been so very, very awful (is there a sarcasm font yet?).

My father did the same thing in the mid-80s. He did odd jobs and farmed with his dad while laid off from automotive work.

I'd wager a whole lot more people are drawing benefits and have an unreported job to help make ends meet more than just sitting there drawing benefits.


In most states, you can work part time and still get benefits. You can be "self-employed" and not have to claim the money against your self employment.

What we have in many areas is people who are drawing benefits, are employed, but are underemployed. All they can find are part time jobs paying less than they formerly made.

I did some consulting work for my State on a conversion program in the Department of Labor. While there are assuredly SOME people gaming the system and not looking for work, the majority just wish the economy provided full time jobs. Unemployment is keeping them afloat, nothing more.
2013-06-28 01:40:08 PM
1 votes:

mgshamster: meat0918: Fast forward a few months, and the likely questions coming from NC will be "Why is our state economy not doing better" and "Why has crime risen?"

Do they really, REALLY think that people are sitting on those extended UI benefits instead of looking for work?

Yup.

I have heard many stories about people who have heard of other people who go on unemployment, and once they go on they make more money than they could working, so they stay on it as long as possible.  Same with welfare. And food stamps.

I've heard about these people from my family, from fark, from facebook, from work...  I've yet to see an actual real example of it, but I sure do hear a lot of stories.  The closest I've been to an actual real example was from my mother, when she told me about her friend's cousin's daughter, who preferred to be on welfare so she could stay at home and smoke pot. I've also heard from my step-grandmother that her daughter's (from another marriage) friend was once on UI, and all she did was submit a single application once a week to "show progress" to the state that she was really looking for work, while she just sat on UI until the benefits ran out.  I doubt any of these are true.

So yeah, people really do think that many on extended UI benefits are just sitting on it instead of looking for work.


I've only got one example, but it's not they refused to work while on UI.  Quite the opposite.

My brother-in-law, but he wasn't making more money taking in UI than working.  He was working under the table while drawing benefits.  Well, during this time my in-laws had taken him back in, then my mother in law found out, and kicked him out.  She didn't report him to the state though.  It would have destroyed her marriage, which would have been so very, very awful (is there a sarcasm font yet?).

My father did the same thing in the mid-80s.  He did odd jobs and farmed with his dad while laid off from automotive work.

I'd wager a whole lot more people are drawing benefits and have an unreported job to help make ends meet more than just sitting there drawing benefits.
2013-06-28 01:21:42 PM
1 votes:

UNC_Samurai: Some of us in NC are fighting the good fight, but the old, rural, ignorant, and racist can be easily frightened into pulling the lever for the pieces of filth in the GA.


Good luck...
2013-06-28 01:13:45 PM
1 votes:
Some of us in NC are fighting the good fight, but the old, rural, ignorant, and racist can be easily frightened into pulling the lever for the pieces of filth in the GA.
2013-06-28 12:49:04 PM
1 votes:

Tannhauser: So states competing for business is 'destroying capitalism'?


LMMFAO. You actually are trying to claim states "competing" for business is captialism.

That's funny shiat. Thanks for the laugh.
2013-06-28 12:24:12 PM
1 votes:
Heads will go well on pikes in NC.
2013-06-28 12:20:35 PM
1 votes:
NC native and resident here. Given that the western and eastern portions of the state voted overwhelmingly GOP the last couple of elections and have the highest rate of unemployment, I could give two shiats if those dumbass biblethumpers have to suffer for their votes. Fark em. Let them starve for all I care.

As to everyone else here, get off your asses in 2014 and kick the bums out. You (we, really) allowed this to happen starting in 2010 when no one bothered to go to the midterms during a farking census year.
2013-06-28 11:58:13 AM
1 votes:

Lackofname: Heraclitus: What is the thought process here?

a. If you dont have a job. go be poor someplace else?
or
b. You will do whatever we say and take whatever we feel like paying you?

The only people that will ever work in your state will be driving across the state line...

I suspect it's "If we make being poor and unemployed as miserable as possible, people will get off their ass and stop being poor and unemployed".

Because it's totally in their control, and not the effect of a terrible economy with high unemployment.


1. Punish misfortune.
2. Tax cuts for the rich.
3. ????
4. The republican road to prosperity.
2013-06-28 11:55:11 AM
1 votes:

Heraclitus: What is the thought process here?

a. If you dont have a job. go be poor someplace else?
or
b. You will do whatever we say and take whatever we feel like paying you?

The only people that will ever work in your state will be driving across the state line...


I suspect it's "If we make being poor and unemployed as miserable as possible, people will get off their ass and stop being poor and unemployed".

Because it's totally in their control, and not the effect of a terrible economy with high unemployment.
2013-06-28 11:50:54 AM
1 votes:

Sliding Carp: meat0918: Do they really, REALLY think that people are sitting on those extended UI benefits instead of looking for work?

Yes.  They do.  Everyone does.  When you really analyze and think about the conversations in Fark threads, it's clear that even Democrats / progressives / liberals believe that too, although they tend to phrase it differently.  Everybody wants to piss on people perceived as weak; it's the American way.


You should not generalize.

I took a job way below my pay grade due to unemployment in the area. I have friends that have been hunting for jobs for months for work.

To be clear, taking a 500 dollar a month cut in unemployment because you left a high paying field to work a 27 hour, no benefits job at walmart/gas station is not an acceptable solution for the problem.

Lets drive all the out of work professionals into dead end clerking jobs. USA #1!!!!
2013-06-28 11:44:08 AM
1 votes:

Xythero: So people can't make their mortgage payments and get forclosed.  Which makes the economy worse.  Which causes more unemployment.  I'm not sure the NC legislature followed the domino trail far enough.


In the Republican mind, it's more fun to just watch the dominos fall. It's like that asshole who watches you make an elaborate trail and "accidentally" bumps into one of them.
2013-06-28 11:42:39 AM
1 votes:

thiefofdreams: At what point do we rebuild the government of the people, by the people, for the people.


Its happening now.  Corporations are people my friend.
2013-06-28 11:28:37 AM
1 votes:

Tannhauser: So states competing for business is 'destroying capitalism'?


I figure you are a troll, but am going to respond.

How does starving people and cutting their unemployment help bring business to the state again?

Oh a starved populace looking to work for food, perhaps they should go to China instead of making China in NC.

Hell I thought the movie The Campaign was just a joke, but apparently the idea of making parts of the US in China is really their goal.
2013-06-28 11:00:30 AM
1 votes:

cc_rider: Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: That state has lost its freaking mind.

Unfortunately, it has a lot of company with other Republican led states such as Wisconsin, Kansas, etc, etc.

This bill was supposedly drafted by the NC Chamber of Commerce (aka ALEC). This may just be the "test case" for other states to follow. I hope I'm wrong about this, but the recent political climate makes me think I am not.

Bastards.


Yeah here is a link explaining how the NC CoC did just that...

http://unemployedworkers.org/sites/unemployedworkers/index.php/site/ bl og_entry/n.c._enacts_harshest_cuts_to_unemployment_insurance_shutting_ off_federal_ui
2013-06-28 10:59:05 AM
1 votes:
Fast forward a few months, and the likely questions coming from NC will be "Why is our state economy not doing better" and "Why has crime risen?"

Do they really, REALLY think that people are sitting on those extended UI benefits instead of looking for work?
2013-06-28 10:48:43 AM
1 votes:

Nonrepeating Rotating Binary: That state has lost its freaking mind.

Unfortunately, it has a lot of company with other Republican led states such as Wisconsin, Kansas, etc, etc.


This bill was supposedly drafted by the NC Chamber of Commerce (aka ALEC). This may just be the "test case" for other states to follow. I hope I'm wrong about this, but the recent political climate makes me think I am not.

Bastards.
2013-06-28 10:41:43 AM
1 votes:
Our derptard legislators believe that unemployment benefits cause unemployment; there's a quote in TFA to that effect.

In other news, we should cut disaster relief because it just encourages tornado victims to have more tornadoes.
2013-06-28 10:38:35 AM
1 votes:

GardenWeasel: ole prophet: Ship them to NYC or California.

That is probably the unspoken intention, same as in Kansas. Make it so difficult for the poor to survive, that they move to another (likely blue) state.

Step 3 is always Profit


It's well known that the poor have an easy time with mobility, and don't just get stuck where they're at.
2013-06-28 10:35:03 AM
1 votes:
As a Tennessean, I'd like to thank North Carolina from taking the derp-heat off of us.
2013-06-28 10:32:06 AM
1 votes:

ole prophet: Ship them to NYC or California.


That is probably the unspoken intention, same as in Kansas. Make it so difficult for the poor to survive, that they move to another (likely blue) state.

Step 3 is always Profit
2013-06-28 10:26:29 AM
1 votes:

spcMike: WTF Indeed: In six months: Crime has reached an all time high in North Carolina as tens of thousands of out of work North Carolinians take to robbing those with jobs.

In eight months: Tax paying North Carolinians demand more police protection from the hordes of thieving criminals.

In ten months: Hundreds of local politicians are tossed after raising taxes to pay for increased police forces and crime prevention.

One year: Omni Consumer Products offers to buy Raleigh-Durham area and turn it into Delta City patrolled by ED-209s


Year Two: North Carolina has become a lawless hellscape, devoid of leadership and morals. Still nicer than Ohio.
2013-06-28 10:24:26 AM
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Let them eat cake.
2013-06-28 10:23:50 AM
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WTF Indeed: In six months: Crime has reached an all time high in North Carolina as tens of thousands of out of work North Carolinians take to robbing those with jobs.

In eight months: Tax paying North Carolinians demand more police protection from the hordes of thieving criminals.

In ten months: Hundreds of local politicians are tossed after raising taxes to pay for increased police forces and crime prevention.


One year: Omni Consumer Products offers to buy Raleigh-Durham area and turn it into Delta City patrolled by ED-209s
2013-06-28 10:23:20 AM
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Lost Thought 00: The peasants must be punished for voting for Obama that one time


^^This

When I moved up here from Charleston, SC in 2008, I was sad to leave the place where I was born and raised, but I thought that there would be at least one upside in that I was moving to a state that was a bit more liberal.

How's that workin out for ya me?
2013-06-28 10:21:49 AM
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They really want a workers revolution, don't they?
2013-06-28 10:19:12 AM
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2013-06-28 10:18:30 AM
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What is the thought process here?

a. If you dont have a job. go be poor someplace else?
or
b. You will do whatever we say and take whatever we feel like paying you?

The only people that will ever work in your state will be driving across the state line...
2013-06-28 10:15:31 AM
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Insaniteus: They'd better increase security at the Governer's mansion, because things are gonna go all World War Z when the poor revolt.


Some of those unemployed will use guns to commit suicide; others may turn to political assassination. It seems unlikely the GOP will dare to endorse adding "currently employed" to the criteria for a background check for buying a gun, regardless.
Academically, I'm curious what the empirical effects of this social laboratory experiment will be.
2013-06-28 10:12:31 AM
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Lots of poor, unemployed and/or underemployed rednecks/teabaggers in this state... and they voted in these politicians.
2013-06-28 10:11:24 AM
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The peasants must be punished for voting for Obama that one time
2013-06-28 10:03:30 AM
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I'm guessing their building more "for profit" prisons and the legislators all have stock in them?
 
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