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(The News & Observer (NC))   Kyle Petty says Danica Patrick isn't a race car driver, just a marketing creation. While he is 100% correct, this would have more weight coming from a driver who didn't get his job only because his daddy put him in a car   (newsobserver.com) divider line 82
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2013-06-28 08:57:27 AM  
Pretty funny from a guy who drove a car with a giant Wells Fargo logo on the hood.
 
2013-06-28 09:59:29 AM  
I'd buy that for a dollar:

gideonfountain.files.wordpress.com

And so would most of you, whether you'll own up to it or not.
 
2013-06-28 10:27:47 AM  
Kyle Petty had 8 wins in 880 NASCAR races.  Danica has 0 in 86 NASCAR races and one Indy win in 115 starts.

This year, Danica has an average start of 32 and average finish of 26.  Not great numbers, but the latter puts her squarely in the middle of the pack.

She's a good driver, not great.

Oh, and yes, without question.
 
2013-06-28 10:40:27 AM  
Kyle admitted as much, subby.   No doubt Danica is a natural beauty, but she also does ok on the track - coming mid-field most of the time, which means she regularly beats half the drivers that start, and that's pretty darn good at the very top level of any sporting branch
 
2013-06-28 10:55:37 AM  
Especially when your daddy is Strip "The King" Weathers.

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2013-06-28 10:57:14 AM  

colinspooky: Kyle admitted as much, subby.   No doubt Danica is a natural beauty, but she also does ok on the track - coming mid-field most of the time, which means she regularly beats half the drivers that start, and that's pretty darn good at the very top level of any sporting branch


She beats a bunch of start and parkers, crash/engine victims, and underfunded racers.

Her teammates who are racing with the same equipment as she is are 15th and 18th in the standings, while she is 27th.  She's dead last in the standings among full time drivers of the mid to upper level Sprint Cup teams.


/TMYK
 
2013-06-28 11:07:41 AM  
Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".
 
2013-06-28 11:08:52 AM  
Pot called the kettle black?
 
2013-06-28 11:14:50 AM  
Petty has always been the first to admit that he wasn't a great driver. He's just calling it like he see's it and I totally agree with him.
 
2013-06-28 11:15:50 AM  
She was a rather good open-wheel driver and is a mediocre NASCAR driver.  It's not like she's terrible or anything and certainly is good enough to be on the track with the men.
 
2013-06-28 11:15:56 AM  
So what you're saying is if Dale Earnhardt Jr. said the same thing it'd have the same weight as Kyle Petty saying it?
 
2013-06-28 11:21:50 AM  

Rustybumperjack: Petty has always been the first to admit that he wasn't a great driver. He's just calling it like he see's it and I totally agree with him.


FWIW I think Adam would've been in between his dad and grandfather if he were still alive today, meaning he'd have been better than Kyle but he'd have nowhere close to 200 wins like Richard.  Going for eight championships, however, could've been plausible.
 
2013-06-28 11:24:00 AM  
Not that Kyle was ever a thrilling driver, but getting your job just because of who your daddy is, is a cornerstone of NASCAR. Hell, that's how his own dad started, not to mention Dale Earnhardt (and, of course, Dale Jr).
 
2013-06-28 11:26:49 AM  

bluorangefyre: So what you're saying is if Dale Earnhardt Jr. said the same thing it'd have the same weight as Kyle Petty saying it?


Yep.
 
2013-06-28 11:30:23 AM  

bluorangefyre: So what you're saying is if Dale Earnhardt Jr. said the same thing it'd have the same weight as Kyle Petty saying it?


Hell, if Dale Sr. was still alive it'd still have the same weight!

/Although admittedly Sr. does have a few championships to back him up as well as his daddy.
 
2013-06-28 11:31:44 AM  
Good racers win races.
 
2013-06-28 11:33:14 AM  

TheFark5000: Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".


If she'd beat "half" of them, that'd be something. When she's finishing multiple laps down, not so impressive.
 
2013-06-28 11:36:43 AM  
Why does Katy Perry have an opinion on race car drivers?
 
2013-06-28 11:42:45 AM  
Most of the time in life, it's admirable if not expected for someone to follow in their father's footsteps.  Racing and music?  Not so much.  I don't get it.
 
2013-06-28 12:11:22 PM  

meanmutton: She was a rather good open-wheel driver and is a mediocre NASCAR driver.  It's not like she's terrible or anything and certainly is good enough to be on the track with the men.


she was an okay open wheel driver in good equipment against a pretty average talent field in the IRL (her only win in the IRL came during a fuel-mileage race at Motegi).  with her team - she should have put together more wins and solid finishes, but she just didn't for whatever reason.

in NASCAR - had she stayed in Nationwide/Trucks for a few seasons and learned the setups and the tracks and what it takes to run at the front and been patient - she would be doing much better at the Cup level.  instead - Go Daddy wanted her in Cup and she's struggling.  will she learn and improve?  maybe.  will she win on the Cup level?  i doubt it, unless she gets a lucky break at daytona or talladega.
 
2013-06-28 12:13:50 PM  

TheFark5000: Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".


The really funny thing is that nobody ever ever ever mocks the guys that didn't even qualify. And not every race kicks people out in qualifying because sometimes only 43 cars show up.

So far this season, that group includes:

Mike Bliss (Daytona, Las Vegas, Martinsville, Charlotte)
Scott Riggs (Bristol, Texas, Michigan)
Brian Keselowski (Daytona)
Scott Speed (Texas)
Joe Nemechek (Kansas)
Elliot Sadler (Talladega)

Last season, just for the sake of having a complete schedule to work from, we have:

J.J. Yeley (Daytona, Richmond, Talladega, Charlotte, Kentucky, Michigan 2, Bristol 2, Richmond 2, Martinsville 2, Phoenix 2)
Mike Bliss (Martinsville, Darlington, Charlotte, New Hampshire, Atlanta, Dover 2, Martinsville 2)
Scott Riggs (Las Vegas, Richmond, Darlington, Charlotte, New Hampshire 2, Charlotte 2)
Stephen Leicht (Darlington, Pocono 2, Michigan 2, Atlanta, Texas 2, Homestead)
David Stremme (Texas, Pocono, Michigan, Dover 2, Texas 2)
Joe Nemechek (California, Texas, Indianapolis, Charlotte 2, Homestead)
Josh Wise (Dover, Atlanta, New Hampshire 2, Charlotte 2)
Timmy Hill (Phoenix, Bristol, California)
Robby Gordon (Las Vegas, Bristol, California)
Michael McDowell (Darlington, Indianapolis, Atlanta)
Jeff Green (Kansas, Richmond 2, New Hampshire 2)
Cole Whitt (Dover, Dover 2, Charlotte 2)
Kelly Bires (Bristol 2, Dover 2, Texas 2)
Reed Sorensen (Indianapolis, Bristol 2, Homestead)
Jason Leffler (New Hampshire 2, Dover 2, Homestead)
Tony Raines (Martinsville, Kansas)
Stacy Compton (Texas, Michigan)
Robert Richardson Jr. (Daytona, Daytona 2)
Scott Speed (Martinsville, Bristol 2)
Kenny Wallace (Daytona)
Michael Waltrip (Daytona)
Bill Elliott (Daytona)
Mike Wallace (Daytona)
Tim Andrews (Kansas)
David Reutimann (Charlotte)
Brian Simo (Sonoma)
Mike Skinner (Kentucky)

You want to mock? Mock Bliss and Riggs.
 
2013-06-28 12:14:31 PM  
She's barely ahead of the pack of Davids - there's 5 Davids in the 6 positions behind her (Gilliland, Ragan, Blaney, Reutimann, Stremme)
 
2013-06-28 12:15:06 PM  

tricycleracer: Why does Katy Perry have an opinion on race car drivers?


LOL, glad to know I'm not the only one who had this interpretation of the headline.
 
2013-06-28 12:16:02 PM  

poconojoe: meanmutton: She was a rather good open-wheel driver and is a mediocre NASCAR driver.  It's not like she's terrible or anything and certainly is good enough to be on the track with the men.

she was an okay open wheel driver in good equipment against a pretty average talent field in the IRL (her only win in the IRL came during a fuel-mileage race at Motegi).  with her team - she should have put together more wins and solid finishes, but she just didn't for whatever reason.

in NASCAR - had she stayed in Nationwide/Trucks for a few seasons and learned the setups and the tracks and what it takes to run at the front and been patient - she would be doing much better at the Cup level.  instead - Go Daddy wanted her in Cup and she's struggling.  will she learn and improve?  maybe.  will she win on the Cup level?  i doubt it, unless she gets a lucky break at daytona or talladega.


this
 
2013-06-28 12:16:48 PM  
He says she's not a race car driver, and when asked what makes a good race car driver he says he doesn't know, if he did he'd be a good one.  How can anyone argue with that kind of clear logic?
 
2013-06-28 12:18:24 PM  

bluorangefyre: So what you're saying is if Dale Earnhardt Jr. said the same thing it'd have the same weight as Kyle Petty saying it?


Actually Jr. has more than double the cup wins in half the races, including a Daytona 500.   He also has 2 Nationwide (Busch) Championships under his belt.

As bad as people think Jr. is...............Kyle Petty is that much worse.
 
2013-06-28 12:18:40 PM  
admittedly i don't know a whole lot about nascar, but, it appears to me that she is trying to save her equipment while learning.  i don't see a whole lot of aggressive driving from her towards the end of races.  imho, this is probably by design...why wreck a 200K car trying to get from 27th to 21st?

she was caught on mike during one race (i forget which one) saying that she wasn't getting any help, that drivers weren't getting out of her way when they were getting out of the way of other drivers...there might be something to this.  sure, she is middle of the pack now...but this is her what, 2nd year?  1st full year?  lets see where she is 2-3 years from now.
 
2013-06-28 12:20:08 PM  

Gosling: TheFark5000: Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".

The really funny thing is that nobody ever ever ever mocks the guys that didn't even qualify.



You don't follow NASCAR that closely do you?    "Fat finger" Jimmy Spencer, "Parking for Jesus" Morgan Shepard.  It's a completely separate sport to make fun of the guys who don't qualify or start and park.
 
2013-06-28 12:21:31 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: You don't follow NASCAR that closely do you? "Fat finger" Jimmy Spencer, "Parking for Jesus" Morgan Shepard. It's a completely separate sport to make fun of the guys who don't qualify or start and park.


The start-and-parkers I see get mocked without mercy. I don't see anyone harping on the guys who missed out entirely.
 
2013-06-28 12:22:36 PM  
Why is she even out of the kitchen?
 
2013-06-28 12:23:16 PM  

Gosling: DoBeDoBeDo: You don't follow NASCAR that closely do you? "Fat finger" Jimmy Spencer, "Parking for Jesus" Morgan Shepard. It's a completely separate sport to make fun of the guys who don't qualify or start and park.

The start-and-parkers I see get mocked without mercy. I don't see anyone harping on the guys who missed out entirely.


That mostly occurs on Friday.  Sunday is reserved for the guys "in" the race.
 
2013-06-28 12:25:24 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Gosling: DoBeDoBeDo: You don't follow NASCAR that closely do you? "Fat finger" Jimmy Spencer, "Parking for Jesus" Morgan Shepard. It's a completely separate sport to make fun of the guys who don't qualify or start and park.

The start-and-parkers I see get mocked without mercy. I don't see anyone harping on the guys who missed out entirely.

That mostly occurs on Friday.  Sunday is reserved for the guys "in" the race.


Ah, well, okay then. I only show up to race threads on Sunday.
 
2013-06-28 12:33:14 PM  
I'm not a Danica fan and don't really know much about her. What I'm curious about is how she keeps from slamming her car into these guys if they're on the racetrack together.

Either she's a zen master or has some secret ultimate revenge plan in the works.
 
2013-06-28 12:40:28 PM  

Gosling: You want to mock? Mock Bliss and Riggs.


Give Bliss and Riggs the R&D money that Danica has, they would qualify every race.
 
2013-06-28 12:48:08 PM  

DoBeDoBeDo: Gosling: TheFark5000: Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".

The really funny thing is that nobody ever ever ever mocks the guys that didn't even qualify.


You don't follow NASCAR that closely do you?    "Fat finger" Jimmy Spencer, "Parking for Jesus" Morgan Shepard.  It's a completely separate sport to make fun of the guys who don't qualify or start and park.


Okay the "Parking for Jesus" Morgan Shepard comment absolutely made my day. Thank you!
 
2013-06-28 12:52:20 PM  

DjangoStonereaver: I'd buy that for a dollar:

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And so would most of you, whether you'll own up to it or not.


I would, of course, but I'd like to mention there isn't a single natural curve in that photo. Looks like SI hired a team of graphic artists to work on that Photoshop job.
 
2013-06-28 12:53:41 PM  
SPARKLE PONY ! ! ! !
 
2013-06-28 12:58:32 PM  

Robert1966: Not that Kyle was ever a thrilling driver, but getting your job just because of who your daddy is, is a cornerstone of NASCAR. Hell, that's how his own dad started, not to mention Dale Earnhardt (and, of course, Dale Jr).


Hell, that's why the HCIC (Head Chucklefark In Charge) is there.
 
2013-06-28 01:02:27 PM  
thread needs more Danica pics
 
2013-06-28 01:02:43 PM  

TheFark5000: Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".


It's not about being real or fake, it's marketing and the amount of coverage an athlete gets vs. what they have accomplished. Danica has not earned the amount of attention she gets for any reason other than being a cute girl. Same principle for Dale Jr., and 10x that for Tim Tebow, many among us would like them to earn the time spent on them. I have nothing against Jr. or Danica but I feel they are given way to much coverage given what they have accomplished careerwise.


/login is before Jr had that number, has nothing to with him
 
2013-06-28 01:03:12 PM  
Just Petty being petty.
 
2013-06-28 01:06:30 PM  
It's driving in circles...who cares?
 
2013-06-28 01:11:48 PM  

EightyEight: TheFark5000: Funny that women have to be perfect at everything.  Even if they are beating half the men, those men are still considered "real" while the woman is still "fake".

It's not about being real or fake, it's marketing and the amount of coverage an athlete gets vs. what they have accomplished. Danica has not earned the amount of attention she gets for any reason other than being a cute girl. Same principle for Dale Jr., and 10x that for Tim Tebow, many among us would like them to earn the time spent on them. I have nothing against Jr. or Danica but I feel they are given way to much coverage given what they have accomplished careerwise.


/login is before Jr had that number, has nothing to with him


^ THIS

I have never in my life heard so much conversation about the person in 30th place (or higher).

And she's not really that pretty. Seriously, if they want hot-chick coverage, just focus on the guys' wives. JJ's wife is pretty. KyBu's wife, not bad. Delana Harvick has a nice body (butter face), KuBu's gf.... just shut the fark up about Danica.
 
2013-06-28 01:16:19 PM  
Junior's career stats are pretty damn similar to Ryan Newman's, he belongs in Cup. Kerry couldn't hang, so he got the boot. Name only gets one so far.
 
2013-06-28 01:28:28 PM  

stir22: admittedly i don't know a whole lot about nascar, but, it appears to me that she is trying to save her equipment while learning.  i don't see a whole lot of aggressive driving from her towards the end of races.  imho, this is probably by design...why wreck a 200K car trying to get from 27th to 21st?

she was caught on mike during one race (i forget which one) saying that she wasn't getting any help, that drivers weren't getting out of her way when they were getting out of the way of other drivers...there might be something to this.  sure, she is middle of the pack now...but this is her what, 2nd year?  1st full year?  lets see where she is 2-3 years from now.


They won't let a newbie driver pass if they can't trust that driver to not cause a wreck while doing so.  Last year's champion, Brad Keselowski, took years to shed this stigma and earn the respect of the other drivers, and he did it through results.  She just isn't getting there in good equipment and won't be getting better equipment unless a top team gets desperate for money.
 
2013-06-28 01:29:36 PM  

" While he is 100% correct, this would have more weight coming from a driver who didn't get his job only because his daddy put him in a car"


So Edward Snowden says the government is doing illegal wholesale spying on U.S. citizens. While he is 100% correct, this would have more weight coming from a whistle blower on the run to various dodgy nations.


Sorry subby, sometimes the people you would like to give a qualified opinion just won't.

 
2013-06-28 01:30:20 PM  

skinink: " While he is 100% correct, this would have more weight coming from a driver who didn't get his job only because his daddy put him in a car"
So Edward Snowden says the government is doing illegal wholesale spying on U.S. citizens. While he is 100% correct, this would have more weight NOT coming from a whistle blower on the run to various dodgy nations.
Sorry subby, sometimes the people you would like to give a qualified opinion just won't.


FTFM
 
2013-06-28 01:33:30 PM  

EightyEight: It's not about being real or fake, it's marketing and the amount of coverage an athlete gets vs. what they have accomplished. Danica has not earned the amount of attention she gets for any reason other than being a cute girl. Same principle for Dale Jr., and 10x that for Tim Tebow, many among us would like them to earn the time spent on them. I have nothing against Jr. or Danica but I feel they are given way to much coverage given what they have accomplished careerwise.


Well, she has led laps in both the Daytona 500 and Indianapolis 500. She's only the 13th person ever to do that. Not 13th woman. 13th person period. That's nothing to sneeze at. Granted, she didn't win either of them, but she's got time. (The other 12: John and Mario Andretti, Al and Bobby Unser, Bobby Allison, A.J. Foyt, Robby Gordon, Jim Hurtubise, Juan Pablo Montoya, Tony Stewart, Tim Richmond, Johnny Rutherford.)
 
2013-06-28 01:37:17 PM  

Gosling: EightyEight: It's not about being real or fake, it's marketing and the amount of coverage an athlete gets vs. what they have accomplished. Danica has not earned the amount of attention she gets for any reason other than being a cute girl. Same principle for Dale Jr., and 10x that for Tim Tebow, many among us would like them to earn the time spent on them. I have nothing against Jr. or Danica but I feel they are given way to much coverage given what they have accomplished careerwise.

Well, she has led laps in both the Daytona 500 and Indianapolis 500. She's only the 13th person ever to do that. Not 13th woman. 13th person period. That's nothing to sneeze at. Granted, she didn't win either of them, but she's got time. (The other 12: John and Mario Andretti, Al and Bobby Unser, Bobby Allison, A.J. Foyt, Robby Gordon, Jim Hurtubise, Juan Pablo Montoya, Tony Stewart, Tim Richmond, Johnny Rutherford.)


A trained monkey could lead a lap at Daytona, and leading at Indy only because you're on a different fuel strategy (that ends of backfiring) ain't all that impressive, either.
 
2013-06-28 01:37:52 PM  
/ends up
 
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