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(ABC Local)   North Carolina summer camp for children is revealed to have two convicted murderers on its staff, including a convicted child killer. That whirring sound you hear is all the helicopter parents throwing fits   (abclocal.go.com) divider line 138
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2013-06-28 08:09:26 AM
Yeah. I would have a problem with this
 
2013-06-28 08:13:32 AM

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2013-06-28 08:18:08 AM
How else are you going to teach these kids good cardio unless you force them to run from a murderer?
 
2013-06-28 08:24:34 AM
Approves

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2013-06-28 08:32:09 AM
Isn't this the theme from every summer camp movie?
 
2013-06-28 08:33:31 AM

queezyweezel: I don't think you need to be a helicopter parent too be upset about this. Or even a parent, really.....


This.
 
2013-06-28 08:37:24 AM
"I believe that everybody deserves a second chance, but there's some things you should be allowed to do and some things you should not be allowed to do, depending on what you've done before, N.I.M.B.Y.
 
2013-06-28 08:40:30 AM
But building the camp directly on top of the ancient Indian burial ground still seems like the bigger mistake.
 
2013-06-28 08:40:42 AM

reported: What a great idea. This will teach the kids how to recognize criminals and the optimal defense strategies. If the kids get killed anyway, well, it's for the best... call it weeding out the weak/thinning the herd/Darwinism in action.


It does sound like a valuable opportunity for the kids, but it sounds like the convicted murderers are in admin roles and don't have contact with them.
 
2013-06-28 08:45:01 AM
St Aug's - sheesh, I can remember when that was a respectable college. The last couple of years have seen a number of scandals involving missing money, phony grades, deteriorating facilities, you name it. I have a feeling that it's become a "turkey farm" devoted to hiring the friends and relatives of the administration.
 
2013-06-28 08:45:39 AM

mikaloyd: Did Penn State do the hiring?


How else do you think Sandusky got hired as Athletic Director?
 
2013-06-28 08:51:57 AM

E5bie: But they're women, so it's okay. Women are natural nurturers.


Exactly.  Heaven forbid we hire men with clean records to be around children.  Who knows what depraved backgrounds they may have.  They're probably only clean because they haven't been caught YET.
 
2013-06-28 08:55:40 AM

you are a puppet: To be fair they wouldn't have been convicted if Stand your Ground laws existed at the time.


Perhaps this and also that they were very targeted, so the likelihood of repeat-offending is probably low.
 
2013-06-28 09:05:21 AM

BigOle8point: I remember the Fred Lane story and while he was most likely guilty of mentally and physically abusing Diedre, was pretty full of himself, a big time show off and probably pretty douchetastic, it was most likely pre meditated.

Deserved?


The Fred Lane murder, sadly not the most tragic murder involving a Carolina Panther.

/go fark yourself in the trunk of a car with a bottle of piss covered in Snickers wrappers, Rae
 
2013-06-28 09:10:52 AM

missmez: Mock26: queezyweezel: I don't think you need to be a helicopter parent too be upset about this. Or even a parent, really.....

They served their time and have been reformed.  End of story.

Seriously?  Because, you know, I'm a fairly awful person.  I genuinely enjoy the misery of others if said others annoy me sufficiently. I know that's immoral, but I don't even feel bad about it.  Somehow, though, I have never killed anyone.


Well, easier to ask forgiveness than permission I guess.
 
2013-06-28 09:12:26 AM

UNC_Samurai: sadly not the most tragic murder involving a Carolina Panther.


Well, I came here to tell Subby he did a nice troll in the headline, but now you gave me a sad.
 
2013-06-28 09:13:45 AM
I think I would need to know the circumstances of the crime. Left babby in hot car to run into the store for a minute but got caught up in a long line and babby died, stupid and irresponsible but I bet she won't be dangerous in the future. Smacked babby in the head for crying too much, yeah, no working with kids for you.
 
2013-06-28 09:14:47 AM
So parents are getting in an uproar over this?  Geez, these counselors HARDLY EVER kill kids.  What's the big deal?
 
2013-06-28 09:19:07 AM
*New upcoming Summer Camp reality show adds new camp to it's list*
 
2013-06-28 09:24:09 AM

UNC_Samurai: BigOle8point: I remember the Fred Lane story and while he was most likely guilty of mentally and physically abusing Diedre, was pretty full of himself, a big time show off and probably pretty douchetastic, it was most likely pre meditated.

Deserved?

The Fred Lane murder, sadly not the most tragic murder involving a Carolina Panther.

/go fark yourself in the trunk of a car with a bottle of piss covered in Snickers wrappers, Rae


That was amazingly, frighteningly specific.
 
2013-06-28 09:30:46 AM

theBigBigEye: "I believe that everybody deserves a second chance, but there's some things you should be allowed to do and some things you should not be allowed to do, depending on what you've done before," parent Peggy Wiggins said.

Some things they should be allowed to do, such as find work no better than fast food.

Some things they should not be allowed to do, such as find work that's better than fast food.

Seriously, why would anyone want to give people such as these the actual ability to afford BOTH food and shelter?! They should be struggling to buy food and live in poverty the rest of their lives!


So we can be entertained by their next murder trials.
 
2013-06-28 09:34:59 AM
I'd trust that camp more than I'd trust the current state legislature
 
2013-06-28 09:36:28 AM
Who cares? It was 30 years ago. We shouldn't judge what people did or said 30 years ago. Times were different then. Forgive (her) I mean them already!

/just got to the party
//been said yet?
 
2013-06-28 11:38:21 AM

radarlove: BarkingUnicorn: Let me get this straight: simply having student debt bars you from the biz, even if payments are not delinquent?

Don't know for sure, as my loans were a wee bit delinquent.  I've heard from other folks who got their licenses denied who claimed they were up on their payments, but that's very anecdotal.

What surprised me was that while that will bar you from the industry, violent felons are a-okay.  And yes, there are most definitely convicted murderers and rapists working at the less scrupulous dispensaries.  I've met a few.  They don't belong in the industry.

HotWingAgenda: That would actually make sense. They wouldn't want someone having an incentive to sell extra pot on the sly to people that don't have valid scripts, because he has to pay back a huge debt burden.

There are three reasons it actually makes zero sense:

1.  A person who has a debt to pay off and is working towards it is more likely to work hard and keep their nose clean, because they don't want to lose their job.  Loss of said job means that their debt spirals out of control, their credit rating is destroyed, and their lives and the lives of their families go in the shiatter.  I know this because I am currently living it.

2.  A person who is not working towards paying off their student loan debt at all is highly unlikely to jeopardize their employment and risk incarceration just so they can give Fannie Mae her due.  They're far more likely to just continue to not make payments.

3.  It is virtually impossible to "sell extra pot on the sly to people that don't have valid scripts" in the medical marijuana industry in Colorado.  From the instant that a cannabis seed or clone is planted, to the instant the cannabis leaves the dispensary, it is vigilantly tracked by the Medical Marijuana Enforcement Division.  Inspections of dispensaries and grow-sites are done frequently.  Scales weigh out to a hundredth of a gram, have to be calibrated and certified by state-licensed technicians a ...



Obviously you have never filled out an SF86
 
2013-06-28 12:04:09 PM
Fista-Phobia - take back one kadam!

I dunno how I missed this the first time, but that is some funny shiat there!
 
2013-06-28 12:15:40 PM

TelemonianAjax: UNC_Samurai: BigOle8point: I remember the Fred Lane story and while he was most likely guilty of mentally and physically abusing Diedre, was pretty full of himself, a big time show off and probably pretty douchetastic, it was most likely pre meditated.

Deserved?

The Fred Lane murder, sadly not the most tragic murder involving a Carolina Panther.

/go fark yourself in the trunk of a car with a bottle of piss covered in Snickers wrappers, Rae

That was amazingly, frighteningly specific.


From the Charlotte ABC affiliate:

Murder suspect Rae Carruth had $3,900 in cash with him when lawmen found him locked in the trunk of car outside a Tennessee motel, an FBI agent testified today.

FBI agents caught up with Carruth at a Best Western motel in Wildersville, Tenn., last December just hours after Cherica Adams died from gunshot wounds.

Carruth, a former professional football player for the Carolina Panthers, is accused of hatching a plot to kill Adams in a drive-by shooting in Charlotte on Nov. 16, 1999. Adams, who was pregnant with Carruth's child, died a month after being shot four times. Her son, delivered by emergency Caesarean section, survived.

.....

With the trunk still closed, Post asked Carruth if he had any weapons, then told him to show his hands when agents opened the trunk lid a few inches.

"We popped the trunk, and both hands came out," Post told the court as Carruth's mother cried.


Agents then asked Carruth to stand up inside the trunk and saw that his pants were down around his knees.

Inside the trunk, they found two large sports bottles, one full of urine and one at least half full, Post said.


Agents also found candy wrappers and a small lady's handbag containing $3,900. Carruth later claimed the money was his, Post said.
 
2013-06-28 12:30:46 PM

UNC_Samurai: TelemonianAjax: UNC_Samurai: BigOle8point: I remember the Fred Lane story and while he was most likely guilty of mentally and physically abusing Diedre, was pretty full of himself, a big time show off and probably pretty douchetastic, it was most likely pre meditated.

Deserved?

The Fred Lane murder, sadly not the most tragic murder involving a Carolina Panther.

/go fark yourself in the trunk of a car with a bottle of piss covered in Snickers wrappers, Rae

That was amazingly, frighteningly specific.

From the Charlotte ABC affiliate:

Murder suspect Rae Carruth had $3,900 in cash with him when lawmen found him locked in the trunk of car outside a Tennessee motel, an FBI agent testified today.

FBI agents caught up with Carruth at a Best Western motel in Wildersville, Tenn., last December just hours after Cherica Adams died from gunshot wounds.

Carruth, a former professional football player for the Carolina Panthers, is accused of hatching a plot to kill Adams in a drive-by shooting in Charlotte on Nov. 16, 1999. Adams, who was pregnant with Carruth's child, died a month after being shot four times. Her son, delivered by emergency Caesarean section, survived.

.....

With the trunk still closed, Post asked Carruth if he had any weapons, then told him to show his hands when agents opened the trunk lid a few inches.

"We popped the trunk, and both hands came out," Post told the court as Carruth's mother cried.

Agents then asked Carruth to stand up inside the trunk and saw that his pants were down around his knees.

Inside the trunk, they found two large sports bottles, one full of urine and one at least half full, Post said.

Agents also found candy wrappers and a small lady's handbag containing $3,900. Carruth later claimed the money was his, Post said.


That actually makes it worse
 
2013-06-28 12:50:42 PM
Yeah, what's the big deal? Who doesn't want convicted murderers supervising their children?
 
2013-06-28 12:55:54 PM

Krieghund: Greywar: Even worse notice...the child killer killed her OWN child.  not just some random kid.

People get charged with and found guilty of, murdering their children for accidental deaths. For cases like leaving the kid in a hot car.

And, yes, negligence like that isn't something you want in a camp councilor, but she isn't a councilor, she's in the administration. And it happened over 30 years ago.

So I believe that she isn't going to just go into work one day and stab some random kid to death.


Yeah, that's better. Killing a kid by stupidity and/or negligence is much better than straight-up murder. Totally. Esp. in a summer camp.
 
2013-06-28 12:58:50 PM
Well, that tears it!
Honey, we're shipping the kids off to camp Hey Diddle Diddle next year.
/gotta park the little crotch droppings somewhere.
 
2013-06-28 01:18:39 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-28 01:24:50 PM
Yeah, I'm going to have to agree with this guy:

www.nicoleflockton.com
 
2013-06-28 01:39:31 PM

2KanZam: Obviously you have never filled out an SF86


Actually I have-  the 40-page mmj book I had to fill out to manage a shop, and the power of attorney I had to sign over to the state in the process, were worse, believe it or not.

And before anybody asks, I dropped out of cop school not because of the paperwork, but because I discovered the career ran contrary to several of my morals and ethics.  That's why I decided to move to a career where I could actually help people.
 
2013-06-28 01:45:13 PM

BarkingUnicorn: theBigBigEye: "I believe that everybody deserves a second chance, but there's some things you should be allowed to do and some things you should not be allowed to do, depending on what you've done before," parent Peggy Wiggins said.

Some things they should be allowed to do, such as find work no better than fast food.

Some things they should not be allowed to do, such as find work that's better than fast food.

Seriously, why would anyone want to give people such as these the actual ability to afford BOTH food and shelter?! They should be struggling to buy food and live in poverty the rest of their lives!

So we can be entertained by their next murder trials.


Well, yeah. Preferably, when they are murdered (and rightfully) by extreme malnutrition, because society refuses to feed them.
 
2013-06-28 03:19:56 PM
radarlove: ...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove my wife and I into extreme poverty.

To check for proper useage:   Remove the words "my wife and" and say the sentence.

...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove I into extreme poverty.  (incorrect)
...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove ME into extreme poverty. (correct)


Therefore:
...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove my wife and me into extreme poverty.
 
2013-06-28 03:29:04 PM

ristst: radarlove: ...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove my wife and I into extreme poverty.

To check for proper useage:   Remove the words "my wife and" and say the sentence.

...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove I into extreme poverty.  (incorrect)
...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove ME into extreme poverty. (correct)

Therefore:
...it kind of killed my MMJ career and drove my wife and me into extreme poverty.


There are nuns in heaven right now shaking their bewiffled heads at me.  I think I need to start diagramming sentences as penance.  =P
 
2013-06-28 03:38:01 PM

radarlove: There are nuns in heaven right now shaking their bewiffled heads at me.  I think I need to start diagramming sentences as penance.  =P


Haha! I don't typically post as a Grammar Goon.

But I have a guy in my office that misuses that phrase *constantly*....and after more than 5 years of hearing it day after day it kinda sticks out.

/interesting story of yours though
 
2013-06-28 05:47:06 PM

BarkingUnicorn: Clemkadidlefark: The message I take away from this article is that only convicts and murderers are willing to take the jobs of working with today's kids.

/sounds right

You  can get lots of nice people to work with kids.  These desperate ex-cons have to work with  the president of a religious university, too.


I rest my case
/but not against anything human
//that'd be wrong
 
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