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2013-06-27 05:27:29 PM  

answer the question liberals.

what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?
 
2013-06-27 05:27:33 PM  
It had wise bi-partisan support in the senate = Can't pass the house.

Welcome to the GOP house that can't do shiat!!!
 
2013-06-27 05:27:45 PM  

gingerjet: The US sucks at training engineers.


yes, well that requires science, and we hate science here.
 
2013-06-27 05:28:17 PM  

Mrtraveler01: I HATE LIBS: Tell me, libtards what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?  What are you gonna do?  Sing Kumbaya around a trash fire in the Castro?

The Castro is known for its illegal population?


You can tell this guy has never been to the Castro. It has some of the cleanest, well dressed streets in San Francisco.
 
2013-06-27 05:28:18 PM  

Carousel Beast: FlashHarry: you just know the house republicans will kill it. it's in their nature.

and they'll lose the latino vote for another generation.

Ah, Fark liberals. It's amazing how much you venerate putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!!!!"

This bill is truly an landmark. Nothing lie it's ever been done. It's not even a little like the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 . And it definately won't end up the same way, encouraging even more illegal immigration and the attendant social problems. Nope, not this time.


Don't you fret, your boys in the House will kill it. Such an outcome serves us fine, politically.

But hey, maybe people will come around to the "self deportation" scheme.
 
2013-06-27 05:28:38 PM  

I HATE LIBS: what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?


They get indefinite work permits and as long as they don't commit crimes and they pay taxes, they can stay.
 
2013-06-27 05:28:40 PM  

Mike Chewbacca: I HATE LIBS: MightyPez: I HATE LIBS: Tell me, libtards what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?  What are you gonna do?  Sing Kumbaya around a trash fire in the Castro?

A good troll is about nuance and riding that Godwin line.

This is just a sad sad cry for attention.

Seriously, you can't even answer my question, instead you just pawn me off a weak troll and spout some made up trolling rules.

I asked a legitimate question and you refuse to answer it because you are either too stupid or incapable.  I have to assume the former in this case.

Okay, dude, you're clearly going for Poe's Law but it's not working. Just retire this account, mkay?


They are so cute at this age, right? Like watching pee-wee hockey. They spend most of the time gliding around on their asses and sometimes a puck accidentally goes into a net.
 
2013-06-27 05:29:27 PM  

I HATE LIBS: answer the question liberals.

what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?


If they chose to remain legal residents without moving on to citizenship, we let them.
 
2013-06-27 05:29:32 PM  

I HATE LIBS: answer the question liberals.

what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?


Hire them as cheap labor to build the border fence.
 
2013-06-27 05:29:38 PM  

I HATE LIBS: instead you just pawn me off a weak troll


" I am a serious user who craves attention so much that I will say and so anything to be against what you're against."

Yep. Weak troll.
 
2013-06-27 05:29:56 PM  
It's time to watch how incompetent Bohner and the house GOP are!!!
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-27 05:31:00 PM  

I HATE LIBS: answer the question liberals.

what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?


Your false dilema is repetitive.

They could get Green cards, they can get deported, they can leave on their own based on difficulty to get work.
 
2013-06-27 05:31:06 PM  
BUILD THE GODDAMM WALL!!

Goddamm we are screwed. The Democrats want to throw the doors wide open to the invading FOREIGNERS so they'll become citzens and vote Democratic and keep them in power, and the Republicans want to keep the doors wide open so their corporate buddies will have a cheap pool of slave labor to exploit. Meanwhile a Holocaust is going on in American cities as American minorities are at each others throats because they have no jobs and no future. Corporate America is busy dismantling the American middle class to make society more pliable to their corporate needs, and Illegals are basically strikebreakers, here to push wages down. The Washington political class as a whole are the most traitorus scum in American history.

EVERY single Senator who voted for this are traitors. They do not have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests.
 
2013-06-27 05:31:23 PM  

Carousel Beast: Ah, Fark liberals. It's amazing how much you venerate putting your fingers in your ears


OK, Mrs. Malaprop, I give up - what word were you going for? Because "venerate" wasn't it.
 
2013-06-27 05:31:36 PM  

vernonFL: Biological Ali: keep a bill from coming up for a vote even if a majority would vote for it?

Yeah but in this case, the majority from his party wouldn't vote for it - its a stupid thing called the "Hastert rule" which isn't even a rule.


I had no clue about the "Hastert Rule", so I did a quick Wiki and then slammed my head into the desk.

What a complete crock of shiat. If a bill has the votes, it should be voted on, period.

Figures it is named after a Reptilzican.
 
2013-06-27 05:31:37 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: Mike Chewbacca: Okay, dude, you're clearly going for Poe's Law but it's not working. Just retire this account, mkay?

I farkied him as "Lame" the very first thread I ever saw him in and I've seen nothing to change my opinion. Whoever controls that account really sucks at this game.


Wait. This is a game? Damn. What are the achievements? I love achievements. Oh, and the "you must spam 20 friends" stuff. I know! This is a multi-player-online-social-trolling-media-game! I love those!
 
2013-06-27 05:31:46 PM  

vernonFL: I HATE LIBS: what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?

They get indefinite work permits and as long as they don't commit crimes and they pay taxes, they can stay.



Hallelujah. Finally someone can read.

So you support a method which will put overpopulation into overdrive then?  Uncontrolled influx of people into this country will have massive problems.
 
2013-06-27 05:32:32 PM  

gingerjet: All my H-1B employees and their 100k+ salaries would disagree with you. The US sucks at training engineers.


Maybe you just didn't look hard enough?
 
2013-06-27 05:32:43 PM  

Biological Ali: seventypercent: Biological Ali: It has to pass though, right? I mean, doesn't it need only a simple majority in the House? Are there any procedural tricks in the House like the filibuster to prevent something like this from happening?

It could pass the House with the vast majority Democrats and a relatively small number of Republicans voting for it. And it probably would pass right now.

But in order for that to happen, Boehner would have to let it come up for a vote, and he's indicated that he won't do that.

He can just unilaterally keep a bill from coming up for a vote even if a majority would vote for it? That would be pretty silly.


Indeed he can; from what I understand, the schedule is almost entirely at the Speaker's discretion.
 
2013-06-27 05:32:45 PM  

mark12A: BUILD THE GODDAMM WALL!!

Goddamm we are screwed. The Democrats want to throw the doors wide open to the invading FOREIGNERS so they'll become citzens and vote Democratic and keep them in power, and the Republicans want to keep the doors wide open so their corporate buddies will have a cheap pool of slave labor to exploit. Meanwhile a Holocaust is going on in American cities as American minorities are at each others throats because they have no jobs and no future. Corporate America is busy dismantling the American middle class to make society more pliable to their corporate needs, and Illegals are basically strikebreakers, here to push wages down. The Washington political class as a whole are the most traitorus scum in American history.

EVERY single Senator who voted for this are traitors. They do not have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests.


I'm having trouble finding the word search here.
 
2013-06-27 05:32:52 PM  

I HATE LIBS: Tell me, libtards what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?  What are you gonna do?  Sing Kumbaya around a trash fire in the Castro?


We'll probably keep paying most of them significantly lower than minimum wage under the table all while expecting them to pay taxes but still be treated as sub-human or at least second class citizens.  Oh, and we'll let them vote as often as they want with out any identification and jump ahead of everyone in line at the ER.  I heard that's a thing now because, you know, Obama.
 
2013-06-27 05:33:11 PM  

mark12A: BUILD THE GODDAMM WALL!!

Goddamm we are screwed. The Democrats want to throw the doors wide open to the invading FOREIGNERS so they'll become citzens and vote Democratic and keep them in power, and the Republicans want to keep the doors wide open so their corporate buddies will have a cheap pool of slave labor to exploit. Meanwhile a Holocaust is going on in American cities as American minorities are at each others throats because they have no jobs and no future. Corporate America is busy dismantling the American middle class to make society more pliable to their corporate needs, and Illegals are basically strikebreakers, here to push wages down. The Washington political class as a whole are the most traitorus scum in American history.

EVERY single Senator who voted for this are traitors. They do not have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests.


7/10. pretty good. i liked the all caps bit.
 
2013-06-27 05:33:40 PM  

mark12A: EVERY single Senator who voted for this are traitors. They do not have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests.


You make me smile. Seriously, your rage puts a song on my lips and a spring to my step. Thanks for the day-brightener!
 
2013-06-27 05:33:52 PM  

StopLurkListen: A Dark Evil Omen: Mike Chewbacca: Okay, dude, you're clearly going for Poe's Law but it's not working. Just retire this account, mkay?

I farkied him as "Lame" the very first thread I ever saw him in and I've seen nothing to change my opinion. Whoever controls that account really sucks at this game.

Wait. This is a game? Damn. What are the achievements? I love achievements. Oh, and the "you must spam 20 friends" stuff. I know! This is a multi-player-online-social-trolling-media-game! I love those!


It's like Farmville, except instead of annoying your friends on Facebook with spammy posts asking for more Farmbux or whatever, you annoy strangers by saying idiotic things in public.
 
2013-06-27 05:34:15 PM  

I HATE LIBS: vernonFL: I HATE LIBS: what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?

They get indefinite work permits and as long as they don't commit crimes and they pay taxes, they can stay.


Hallelujah. Finally someone can read.

So you support a method which will put overpopulation into overdrive then?  Uncontrolled influx of people into this country will have massive problems.


A) All predictions show the US is going to have a worker shortage in the future and the US population will dwindle without immigration

B) No one wants an uncontrolled influx of people your argument is a strawman.

You really make no sense.
 
2013-06-27 05:35:06 PM  

theorellior: gingerjet: All my H-1B employees and their 100k+ salaries would disagree with you. The US sucks at training engineers.

Maybe you just didn't look hard enough?


Has he ever tried to just hire new engineering grads and train them the way you want them?

Maybe invest in them a bit and invest in American employment, as well?

Maybe give grads a reason to want to work hard and make it to your company when they graduate?
 
2013-06-27 05:35:15 PM  

Carousel Beast: Ah, Fark liberals...


moot point. you guys will kill it anyway. which, politically, will be a boon for the democrats.

but they supported the bill, despite the fact that it was bad politically, because - get this - it was the right thing to do.
 
2013-06-27 05:35:32 PM  
Okay, Mr. ALL CAPS LOGIN, you got thrown a bone or two, you can go away victorious now.
 
2013-06-27 05:35:33 PM  

Noticeably F.A.T.: I HATE LIBS: instead you just pawn me off a weak troll

" I am a serious user who craves attention so much that I will say and so anything to be against what you're against."

Yep. Weak troll.


I like how you completely ignore the rest of my profile.  Very convenient.  You're basically admitting to being part of the trolling conspiracy on this site by leaving out the important parts.  The only thing weak here is you.
 
2013-06-27 05:35:41 PM  

A Dark Evil Omen: I'm having trouble finding the word search here.


At first I thought the theme was "Names that the Sex Pistols have given their genitalia", but I was wrong.
 
2013-06-27 05:36:06 PM  

I HATE LIBS: So you support a method which will put overpopulation into overdrive then? Uncontrolled influx of people into this country will have massive problems.


Well no because the border would be more secure. Obviously we might have to revisit the issue if we get cruise ships full of thousands of Hatianss or something swimming over.
 
2013-06-27 05:36:17 PM  

I HATE LIBS: vernonFL: I HATE LIBS: what is your solution for the illegals that don't go become citizens?

They get indefinite work permits and as long as they don't commit crimes and they pay taxes, they can stay.


Hallelujah. Finally someone can read.

So you support a method which will put overpopulation into overdrive then?  Uncontrolled influx of people into this country will have massive problems.


The CBO has run the numbers, it will actually mean more revenue for the US government not less. In fact the biggest problem is all the money we will be spending on troops on the border not the immigrants themselves. The immigrants will be a positive effect of the US economy and federal budget.
 
2013-06-27 05:36:17 PM  
Look at the bright side.  The House debate will produce some hilarious GOP quotes.
 
2013-06-27 05:36:18 PM  

mark12A: BUILD THE GODDAMM WALL!!

Goddamm we are screwed. The Democrats want to throw the doors wide open to the invading FOREIGNERS so they'll become citzens and vote cold as ice Democratic and keep them in power, and the Republicans want to urgent keep the doors wide open so their corporate buddies will have a cheap pool of slave labor to exploit. Meanwhile a Holocaust is going on in feels like the first time American cities as American minorities are at each others throats because they have no jobs and no future. Corporate America is busy dismantling the American middle class to make society more hot blooded pliable to their corporate needs, and Illegals are basically jukebox hero strikebreakers, here to push wages down. The Washington i want to know what love is political class as a whole are the most traitorus scum in American history.

EVERY single Senator who voted for this are traitors. They do not have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests.


Meh. Try harder.
 
2013-06-27 05:36:57 PM  

I HATE LIBS: Noticeably F.A.T.: I HATE LIBS: instead you just pawn me off a weak troll

" I am a serious user who craves attention so much that I will say and so anything to be against what you're against."

Yep. Weak troll.

I like how you completely ignore the rest of my profile.  Very convenient.  You're basically admitting to being part of the trolling conspiracy on this site by leaving out the important parts.  The only thing weak here is you.


Your name is "I HATE LIBS" If people don't take you serious it;s mostly your fault.
 
2013-06-27 05:36:58 PM  

Testiclaw: Has he ever tried to just hire new engineering grads and train them the way you want them?

Maybe invest in them a bit and invest in American employment, as well?

Maybe give grads a reason to want to work hard and make it to your company when they graduate?


Obviously it's because they're lazy Americans and only Indians who can be deported at any time for poor job reviews can fill these positions.
 
2013-06-27 05:37:38 PM  

theorellior: Okay, Mr. ALL CAPS LOGIN, you got thrown a bone or two, you can go away victorious now.


That's not the point.  Many users on this site kiss ass to the same trolls, its annoying as all get out.
 
2013-06-27 05:37:54 PM  

I HATE LIBS: Noticeably F.A.T.: I HATE LIBS: instead you just pawn me off a weak troll

" I am a serious user who craves attention so much that I will say and so anything to be against what you're against."

Yep. Weak troll.

I like how you completely ignore the rest of my profile.  Very convenient.  You're basically admitting to being part of the trolling conspiracy on this site by leaving out the important parts.  The only thing weak here is you.


Not all questions deserve to be answered.

Not all posters deserve the curtesy of critial contemplations.

I'm not sure which group you arrived at first, but you occupy both.

I award you no points, may God have mercy on your soul.
 
2013-06-27 05:38:42 PM  

Corvus: Your name is "I HATE LIBS" If people don't take you serious it;s mostly your fault.


What I do is not the problem.  It's everyone else.
 
2013-06-27 05:39:02 PM  

I HATE LIBS: Uncontrolled influx of people into this country will have massive problems.


How is putting as much troops and monitoring on the US border as is on the North and South Korea border "uncontrolled influx". No one is demanding an "uncontrolled influx" that is BS crap you are making up.
 
2013-06-27 05:39:08 PM  

mark12A: BUILD THE GODDAMM WALL!!

Goddamm we are screwed. The Democrats want to throw the doors wide open to the invading FOREIGNERS so they'll become citzens and vote Democratic and keep them in power, and the Republicans want to keep the doors wide open so their corporate buddies will have a cheap pool of slave labor to exploit. Meanwhile a Holocaust is going on in American cities as American minorities are at each others throats because they have no jobs and no future. Corporate America is busy dismantling the American middle class to make society more pliable to their corporate needs, and Illegals are basically strikebreakers, here to push wages down. The Washington political class as a whole are the most traitorus scum in American history.

EVERY single Senator who voted for this are traitors. They do not have the best interests of this country in mind, just their own interests.


We don't need to build a wall. We just need to revoke the business license of any employer who hires an illegal and fine them twice the average yearly wage of the job the illegal is performing, half of which is paid to the illegal as an incentive to whistleblow.
 
2013-06-27 05:39:15 PM  

I HATE LIBS: That's not the point. Many users on this site kiss ass to the same trolls, its annoying as all get out.


So in protesting the treatment of trolls you've become what you most hate? I feel like I've fallen into an issue of The Amazing Spider-Man here!
 
2013-06-27 05:39:41 PM  

qorkfiend: Indeed he can; from what I understand, the schedule is almost entirely at the Speaker's discretion.


Thanks (and to the others that replied as well) for the clarification. If I'm understanding it correctly, it would seem that under certain circumstances, a small number of people who oppose a bill could make its passage as difficult in the House as it already is in the Senate. This seems to me to be the opposite of what should be the case.
 
2013-06-27 05:39:45 PM  

Testiclaw: Not all questions deserve to be answered.

Not all posters deserve the curtesy of critial contemplations.

I'm not sure which group you arrived at first, but you occupy both.

I award you no points, may God have mercy on your soul.


You idiot, get with the program.  You're missing the point.
 
2013-06-27 05:39:58 PM  
Today we learned Marco Rubio is the Manchurian Candidate for the Republican Party.

Republicans should be really upset. They are being infiltrated by Rubio's team brainwashing anyone who opposes it and then changing their mind such as Bill O'Reilly.
 
2013-06-27 05:39:58 PM  

I HATE LIBS: Corvus: Your name is "I HATE LIBS" If people don't take you serious it;s mostly your fault.

What I do is not the problem.  It's everyone else.


wow, that's sound like normal Republican "What I do is everyone else's fault not mine" level of responsibility.
 
2013-06-27 05:40:32 PM  
It's  a jobs bill --- just not for Americans.
 
2013-06-27 05:41:03 PM  

I HATE LIBS: theorellior: Okay, Mr. ALL CAPS LOGIN, you got thrown a bone or two, you can go away victorious now.

That's not the point.  Many users on this site kiss ass to the same trolls, its annoying as all get out.


Well why are you not answering any of my question or points to you? Instead you are just trying to argue about stupid stuff?
 
2013-06-27 05:41:10 PM  
Mister Obama. BUILD. UP. THIS. WALL.

4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-06-27 05:41:19 PM  
I can think of few examples in recent memory where a political party is so clearly holding a single, defining vote on their own future existence.

...and I'm all out of popcorn.
 
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