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2013-06-27 01:44:43 PM
how meta
 
2013-06-27 01:48:22 PM
SEO, SEO, SEO

So farking sick of it. Remember when the web was fun and a cool place to learn things in text form instead of signing out a book? Now you have to leverage your namespace into actionable optimum conversion$. What the fark does that teach anyone, other a lot of grasping derivative excrement?
 
2013-06-27 01:49:48 PM
"other than", of course. Poor enough typist without the busyrage.
 
2013-06-27 01:52:16 PM
images2.wikia.nocookie.net
You rang?
 
2013-06-27 02:10:17 PM
I noticed google was not ranked by their own algorithms not too long ago.

/I lol'ed.
//think I've also got a screen cap somewhere....
 
2013-06-27 02:11:14 PM

barefoot in the head: SEO, SEO, SEO

So farking sick of it. Remember when the web was fun and a cool place to learn things in text form instead of signing out a book? Now you have to leverage your namespace into actionable optimum conversion$. What the fark does that teach anyone, other a lot of grasping derivative excrement?


This.

/search engines, the cause of, and solution to, all the problems gathering info on the net.
 
2013-06-27 02:11:52 PM

cuzsis: barefoot in the head: SEO, SEO, SEO

So farking sick of it. Remember when the web was fun and a cool place to learn things in text form instead of signing out a book? Now you have to leverage your namespace into actionable optimum conversion$. What the fark does that teach anyone, other a lot of grasping derivative excrement?

This.

/search engines, the cause of, and solution to, all the problems of gathering info on the net.


(sigh)
 
2013-06-27 02:36:05 PM
Google needs to adopt a zero-tolerance policy with this crap. You do any of these bullshiat "SEO optimizations" to your site, and you're blacklisted from Google Search forever.
 
2013-06-27 02:44:31 PM

MrEricSir: Google needs to adopt a zero-tolerance policy with this crap. You do any of these bullshiat "SEO optimizations" to your site, and you're blacklisted from Google Search forever.


The entire concept of proactive SEO is pretty much dead.  Writing good content (and lots of it) and engaging your visitors are currently the best methods to rank better.

Which isn't to say that the old methods of link-building (and buying), keyword-stuffing, and the rest of it are useless (though I can't wait until they are) -- they still work, but to a lesser extent than in the past.
 
2013-06-27 02:51:16 PM

MrEricSir: Google needs to adopt a zero-tolerance policy with this crap. You do any of these bullshiat "SEO optimizations" to your site, and you're blacklisted from Google Search forever.


I'm not going to use words like "black hat SEO" or "white hat SEO" because I think the term itself is kinda stupid. However, a whole lot of what these people suggest are
- include useful, descriptive alt attributes on images
- include useful, description title attributes on links, buttons, and form inputs
- use sensible HTML for your page, don't use textually empty images in place of text, use headings and lists appropriately
- use microdata to mark up meaningful things like product descriptions, contact information
- use rel attributes and microdata to identify which pages are "next and previous", product pages, home/about pages, which group of links is for navigation
- Use a unique, brief, meaningful title element on every page
- make the page look reasonable with content without javascript

All of those are "SEO" tips that have benefits beyond increasing your Google rankings, but increasing Google rankings and appearing in specialized searches (shopping, images, maps) are probably the most tangible benefits to doing those things and they are the easiest things to sell to a client as a consultant.

There are more "evil" things you can do, but as we have seen in the past, today's "easy secret for beating Google" is tomorrow blacklisted trick that you get your rankings squashed.
 
2013-06-27 02:56:15 PM

jonny_q: All of those are "SEO" tips that have benefits beyond increasing your Google rankings, but increasing Google rankings and appearing in specialized searches (shopping, images, maps) are probably the most tangible benefits to doing those things and they are the easiest things to sell to a client as a consultant.


I'm not sure I'd qualify any of those as SEO tips, just sane things to do if you want your website to be navigable and accessible.
 
2013-06-27 02:59:45 PM
Did you know that if you google the word "Google", you break the internet?
 
2013-06-27 03:03:59 PM

MrEricSir: I'm not sure I'd qualify any of those as SEO tips, just sane things to do if you want your website to be navigable and accessible


Same thing. My source here is that we have "SEO experts" here at work who are not programmers and have been to "seminars" while we have the actual web developers that have to deal with some of the crap they get at the seminars. Of course, it's funny how they come back from the SEO seminars with these newfangled ideas that happen to be what we've been telling them to do for years. But they do qualify as SEO and they do "optmize" your code for better parsing by a "search engine".

Now there's some questionable crap that comes out of there, but luckily I haven't had to deal with anything absurdly stupid in a long time.
 
2013-06-27 03:07:20 PM
Why don't you like SEO?  Don't you know how important top-10-list websites and online retailers who aren't amazon are?
 
2013-06-27 03:10:13 PM

batlock666: Did you know that if you google the word "Google", you break the internet?


http://lmgtfy.com/?q=google
 
2013-06-27 03:36:28 PM
www.traveling-up.com
RIP Mutt Cutts
 
2013-06-27 04:38:28 PM
When I go to google it's the first thing I pull up.
 
2013-06-27 06:07:32 PM

Jerkwater: MrEricSir: Google needs to adopt a zero-tolerance policy with this crap. You do any of these bullshiat "SEO optimizations" to your site, and you're blacklisted from Google Search forever.

The entire concept of proactive SEO is pretty much dead.  Writing good content (and lots of it) and engaging your visitors are currently the best methods to rank better.

Which isn't to say that the old methods of link-building (and buying), keyword-stuffing, and the rest of it are useless (though I can't wait until they are) -- they still work, but to a lesser extent than in the past.


I thought writing bad content and pressing hot button issues so people go "THIS IS AN OUTRAGE, LET ME LINK IT TO A THOUSAND PEOPLE" was the best way to gain rank these days?
 
2013-06-27 06:44:59 PM
google shows up fifth when i google google.  they really should work on their seo.
 
2013-06-27 11:33:45 PM

Jerkwater: MrEricSir: Google needs to adopt a zero-tolerance policy with this crap. You do any of these bullshiat "SEO optimizations" to your site, and you're blacklisted from Google Search forever.

The entire concept of proactive SEO is pretty much dead.  Writing good content (and lots of it) and engaging your visitors are currently the best methods to rank better.


Yea, that's the Google kool-aid, except there are a bunch of examples where writing a bunch of content means nothing to what the audience wants, for example, a website selling your awesome sneakers, artwork, etc.

No, what SEO is becoming, at least for Google, is to cherrypick a bunch of "authoritative" sites and shove those down your throat. It's becoming consolidated, centralized and pretty soon in the future, it will be very difficult for new websites to break into established categories.
 
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