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2013-06-27 10:53:03 AM
a) what was the ratio of liberal-to-conservative filings? The numbers he lists may reflect that difference.

b) just yesterday...
The Treasury inspector general (IG) whose report helped drive the IRS targeting controversy says it limited its examination to conservative groups because of a request from House Republicans.
A spokesman for Russell George, Treasury's inspector general for tax administration, said they were asked by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) "to narrowly focus on Tea Party organizations."



http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/307813-irs-ig-s ay s-audit-limited-to-tea-party-groups
 
2013-06-27 10:55:47 AM
I think we've already moved on to a new outrage
 
2013-06-27 11:28:22 AM
Says the Moonies.
 
2013-06-27 12:44:17 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Says the Moonies.


Well, Rev. Moon knew something about being unfairly singled out by the IRS.

He spent a year in federal prison for tax evasion and conspiracy.
 
2013-06-27 12:47:38 PM

vernonFL: Marcus Aurelius: Says the Moonies.

Well, Rev. Moon knew something about being unfairly singled out by the IRS.

He spent a year in federal prison for tax evasion and conspiracy.


To be fair, the Washington Times is a charity case.
 
2013-06-27 12:54:50 PM
I'm pretty sure the general claim was that they were "also" targeted, not in exactly equal number.
 
2013-06-27 12:55:54 PM
are conservatives ever going to stop lying
 
2013-06-27 12:58:16 PM
oh boy, main page

i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-27 12:59:40 PM

Angry Drunk Bureaucrat: vernonFL: Marcus Aurelius: Says the Moonies.

Well, Rev. Moon knew something about being unfairly singled out by the IRS.

He spent a year in federal prison for tax evasion and conspiracy.

To be fair, the Washington Times is a charity case.


Thank you.  I was going to point out that while the Washington Post and Washington Times have similar names and logo typefaces, the former is a well respected quality newspaper, the latter...
 
2013-06-27 01:13:26 PM
Right wing butthurt in my Fark headline? The hell you say
 
2013-06-27 01:13:42 PM
Are we still outraged by this? It's hard to tell... I mean I'm kinda having trouble forming any kind of emotion over this one whatsoever. Am I just dead inside or is this really that uninteresting?
 
2013-06-27 01:16:14 PM

unlikely: Are we still outraged by this? It's hard to tell... I mean I'm kinda having trouble forming any kind of emotion over this one whatsoever. Am I just dead inside or is this really that uninteresting?


It's just typical GOP butthurt-play-the-victim crap.

The only thing I'm upset about is that the administration didn't embrace what the IRS field office did and say 'Yes, they put extra scrutiny on groups whose primary mission is to avoid paying taxes when they applied for tax-exempt status, it's a policy that we will continue because it makes sense'.
 
2013-06-27 01:18:04 PM

unlikely: Are we still outraged by this? It's hard to tell... I mean I'm kinda having trouble forming any kind of emotion over this one whatsoever. Am I just dead inside or is this really that uninteresting?


cantitbeboth.jpg
 
2013-06-27 01:24:56 PM
Poor print media. Their production cycle means they missed today's spin of the Wheel of Outrage that landed on "Oh yeah, well Wendy Davis was a single mom, and while she was yapping away who was baking her kids delicious pies?"
 
2013-06-27 01:55:31 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-27 02:03:37 PM
^ you know every time this happens I consider watermarking my terrible photoshops/gifs but eh ^
 
2013-06-27 02:10:42 PM

Jackson Herring: ^ you know every time this happens I consider watermarking my terrible photoshops/gifs but eh ^


i think i googled it to find the gif, if that makes you feel any better. in any case, it's hilarious.
 
2013-06-27 02:20:32 PM
Keep trying.
 
2013-06-27 02:34:52 PM

FlashHarry: Jackson Herring: ^ you know every time this happens I consider watermarking my terrible photoshops/gifs but eh ^

i think i googled it to find the gif, if that makes you feel any better. in any case, it's hilarious.


......


i.imgur.com
 
2013-06-27 02:38:50 PM
Yeah, I'm not falling for this shiat anymore.
 
2013-06-27 02:39:10 PM

Jackson Herring: are conservatives ever going to stop lying


^The irony of this post could destroy the world.^
 
2013-06-27 02:39:41 PM
So even though that same auditor essentially said it was purposeful targeting but rather a stupid way to collective organize the massive influx of organization we're still going to get buthurt over it?

Got it
 
2013-06-27 02:39:51 PM

MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think we've already moved on to a new outrage


Gay?  The outrages and causes are so short lived these days.
 
2013-06-27 02:40:10 PM
Good afternoon, adminderpmitter!
 
2013-06-27 02:41:53 PM

Blues_X: a) what was the ratio of liberal-to-conservative filings? The numbers he lists may reflect that difference.

b) just yesterday...
The Treasury inspector general (IG) whose report helped drive the IRS targeting controversy says it limited its examination to conservative groups because of a request from House Republicans.
A spokesman for Russell George, Treasury's inspector general for tax administration, said they were asked by House Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa (R-Calif.) "to narrowly focus on Tea Party organizations."


http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/domestic-taxes/307813-irs-ig-s ay s-audit-limited-to-tea-party-groups


Yet the IG just contradicted your talking point today. Please stay up to date.
 
2013-06-27 02:41:57 PM
Oh...

My...

God!

Did someone just submit a Washington Times' piece as though it was the truth?

Subby?  It's the conservative-version of The Onion.
 
2013-06-27 02:42:07 PM
Right wing groups that want to start a civil war and destroy the federal government are being targeted by the federal government as opposed to liberal groups who love the federal government? Obviously the work of Satan. Jesus said to never render unto Caesar what is Caesar's but instead encourage people to assassinate Caesar.
 
2013-06-27 02:42:21 PM
Aren't the "conservative groups" in question really libertarian groups?

And isn't the foundation of libertarianism that people should not have to pay federal taxes?

I'm pretty much OK with the IRS scrutinizing these groups more than others. They seem to require scrutiny when it comes to their federal tax payments.
 
2013-06-27 02:42:52 PM
Whodathunk that a fascist government would turn on it's political opponents.
 
2013-06-27 02:43:10 PM

Wook: MaudlinMutantMollusk: I think we've already moved on to a new outrage

Gay?  The outrages and causes are so short lived these days.


That was yesterday, I think

/Doesn't look like the email has come in yet today
//it IS so hard to keep up
 
2013-06-27 02:43:18 PM
data.whicdn.com
 
2013-06-27 02:43:34 PM

Marcus Aurelius: Says the Moonies.


Politico and the hill have the article... or is any source that contradicts your bias not good enough? Tgey quote the IG and everything. Totes fake though.
 
2013-06-27 02:44:48 PM

FunkOut: Right wing groups that want to start a civil war and destroy the federal government are being targeted by the federal government as opposed to liberal groups who love the federal government? Obviously the work of Satan. Jesus said to never render unto Caesar what is Caesar's but instead encourage people to assassinate Caesar.


LOL wtf does this even mean?
 
2013-06-27 02:45:23 PM
Finally, Benghazi is a scandal.
 
2013-06-27 02:45:33 PM

Jackson Herring: ^ you know every time this happens I consider watermarking my terrible photoshops/gifs but eh ^


i798.photobucket.com
 
2013-06-27 02:45:40 PM

TuteTibiImperes: 'Yes, they put extra scrutiny on groups whose primary mission is to avoid paying taxes when they applied for tax-exempt status, it's a policy that we will continue because it makes sense'


So much this.
 
2013-06-27 02:45:42 PM
If you think the moonie paper is a source of information, you should be committed to a stupid asylum.
 
2013-06-27 02:46:00 PM
The only appropriate response to any line of inquiry regarding "conservative groups" and the IRS at this point is "Oh, just shut the f*ck up." No one on any side of this debate is being honest, therefore no actual debate is taking place. It's just sh*t-slinging for the sake of sh*t-slinging at this point.
 
2013-06-27 02:46:13 PM

Smeggy Smurf: Whodathunk that a fascist government would turn on it's political opponents.


I know, man...  It's like Stalin's purge up in here, isn't it?

I don't think you have anything to worry about though.  When the purge of the intelligent begins, I'm betting you're very, very safe right where you are, Commander Two Digit.
 
2013-06-27 02:46:28 PM

Jackson Herring: ^ you know every time this happens I consider watermarking my terrible photoshops/gifs but eh ^


So you're going to claim ownership of something that you copied copied copied?
 
2013-06-27 02:46:31 PM
The supreme being is infallible.  People in his organization do not makes mistakes and never act out of malice.  Those who seek to find mistakes or write against us are wicked and evil.  Those who do not adhere to the ideology are all wicked and evil.  Fellow adherents must be defended at all costs.
 
2013-06-27 02:48:05 PM

mrlewish: Jackson Herring: ^ you know every time this happens I consider watermarking my terrible photoshops/gifs but eh ^

So you're going to claim ownership of something that you copied copied copied?


DIBS ON THE FAT DOGS!
 
2013-06-27 02:49:01 PM

TuteTibiImperes: unlikely: Are we still outraged by this? It's hard to tell... I mean I'm kinda having trouble forming any kind of emotion over this one whatsoever. Am I just dead inside or is this really that uninteresting?

It's just typical GOP butthurt-play-the-victim crap.

The only thing I'm upset about is that the administration didn't embrace what the IRS field office did and say 'Yes, they put extra scrutiny on groups whose primary mission is to avoid paying taxes when they applied for tax-exempt status, it's a policy that we will continue because it makes sense'.


It bothers me that people still get this wrong so long after it happened. They were not trying to avoid taxes. The "proper" designation would have still been tax-exempt, but they would have had to disclose donors. That is what they were trying to avoid. If you remember, the Tea Part always tried to be a "grass-roots" movement, having to disclose that the majority of their money came from big-time establishment Republicans would have hurt their image.
 
2013-06-27 02:50:24 PM

LasersHurt: I'm pretty sure the general claim was that they were "also" targeted, not in exactly equal number.


The required scrutiny was also at completely different levels.

Look liberals. Stop with the excuse making. The IG has laid out a pretty condemning case. You can argue intention of the abuse but you can't argue there was no abuse. Too many facts show there was abuse. Tge IG and Werfel both state there was abuse. Arguing no abuse despite all the examples is just stupid at this point. Saying scrutiny was equal is just as stupid.

Argue intention as that is still in question. Arguing the rest is denying reality.

The hill and politico both have the statements from the IG today directly refuting Rep Levys assertions last week.
 
2013-06-27 02:50:43 PM

LasersHurt: I'm pretty sure the general claim was that they were "also" targeted, not in exactly equal number.


No, the general claim was that Obama was using the IRS to target conservatives. Just like with Benghazi, where the general claim was that Obama stopped US forces from saving embassy workers. You might be confusing the general claim with the rational claim.
 
2013-06-27 02:51:38 PM
Talk to my parents. They will tell you all about the IRS audits they got hit with ironically while being active in the Vietnam war protest movement.

//Personal audits not part of a fund
 
2013-06-27 02:51:55 PM

Tman144: TuteTibiImperes: unlikely: Are we still outraged by this? It's hard to tell... I mean I'm kinda having trouble forming any kind of emotion over this one whatsoever. Am I just dead inside or is this really that uninteresting?

It's just typical GOP butthurt-play-the-victim crap.

The only thing I'm upset about is that the administration didn't embrace what the IRS field office did and say 'Yes, they put extra scrutiny on groups whose primary mission is to avoid paying taxes when they applied for tax-exempt status, it's a policy that we will continue because it makes sense'.

It bothers me that people still get this wrong so long after it happened. They were not trying to avoid taxes. The "proper" designation would have still been tax-exempt, but they would have had to disclose donors. That is what they were trying to avoid. If you remember, the Tea Part always tried to be a "grass-roots" movement, having to disclose that the majority of their money came from big-time establishment Republicans would have hurt their image.


And we all know that Teabaggers are very concerned about projecting a positive image that reflects the love they have for America and everyone who lives within its borders.

www.buzztwang.com
 
2013-06-27 02:53:14 PM
Here we go again...

So "progressive" was NOT a search term used? Back to square 1
 
2013-06-27 02:53:40 PM

MyRandomName: LasersHurt: I'm pretty sure the general claim was that they were "also" targeted, not in exactly equal number.

The required scrutiny was also at completely different levels.

Look liberals. Stop with the excuse making. The IG has laid out a pretty condemning case. You can argue intention of the abuse but you can't argue there was no abuse. Too many facts show there was abuse. Tge IG and Werfel both state there was abuse. Arguing no abuse despite all the examples is just stupid at this point. Saying scrutiny was equal is just as stupid.

Argue intention as that is still in question. Arguing the rest is denying reality.

The hill and politico both have the statements from the IG today directly refuting Rep Levys assertions last week.


Why aren't you mad that political groups got the kind of tax status reserved for non-political groups?

or.

What selfless charity do these groups provide?
 
2013-06-27 02:54:15 PM

mrlewish: So you're going to claim ownership of something that you copied copied copied?


what?
 
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