Kozaru: In Japan there are entire dictionaries full of English loan words targeted at older folks who aren't up to date on the hip lingo kids are using these days.
JonnyBGoode: Japan: Asia's France.
Maul555: Da Fuq? I am an American and I cant even understand these Americanized words... I hope this guy wins the lawsuit! This is like fighting against spanglish!
DontMakeMeComeBackThere: Maul555: Da Fuq? I am an American and I cant even understand these Americanized words... I hope this guy wins the lawsuit! This is like fighting against spanglish!Japanese is hamstrung by their phonetic kanji, so they can't just take an English word as-is because they can't write it. So it gets changed to the extent they can write it phonetically.So says my Japanese major of a son - native speakers can correct my ham-fisted explanation.
gnosis301: The sheer amount of loan words in some anime is indeed downright appalling.
brantgoose: He sounds French.In the long run, this kind of thing must fail. Loan words only shock because they are new, like changes in meaning or grammar. The school-marms of prescriptive grammar attempt to hold back the flood but they ultimately fail because the masses ignore their prescriptions or only adopt them in special contexts, such as when talking to school marms.And because it is the novelty that is the crime, the school marms and prescrptive grammarians fail to recognize the many thousands or tens of thousands of cases that have been accepted in the past.Take, for example, the tendancy to form nouns from verbs. When the jargon or slang is new, this shocks the monkey out of the old folks and those who have diligently followed the rules, but there are already thousands of old nouns made from verbs.You may resist a new verb such as "to impact" and insist on "to have an impact on", but it is a losing game. Resistence is futile.Some of the worst novelties will die out--slang is constantly changing because the in group that creates it abandons it for some newer, shinier thing or in disgust when other people adopt it. The song "My generation" contains the protest of one such young fool. Argot because useless once the cops catch on, and slang becomes outmoded when the old folks (anybody over 25) start using it.The same is true of loan words.There are more non-Anglo Saxon words in English than there are Anglo Saxon words. The Anglo-Saxon vocabulary is about 10,000 words perhaps. French gave English sever times that many.Those innovations that are not so fugly that they continue to shock after more than a generation in use often go native and become invisible even to the prickliest of prescriptions. The most a prescriptionist can hope to do is explain why we should say one thing rather than another. We do lose a lot of valuable words and grammar if nobody fights back.Personally, I am annoyed by the anglicized or americanized pronounciation of several foreign ...
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Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: Interesting. I detest the use of loan words when there are perfectly good, explicit equivalents.People all over the world replace their native words with english ones, to show separate themselves from the poor people.It's all fun and games until someone has kids... and you should hear their kids speak.Poor native language vocabulary and terrible english./joke's on them I guess
Agnes Gonxha's Confidant: Interesting. I detest the use of loan words when there are perfectly good, explicit equivalents...So would it seem more appetizing to order squid in a restaurant, or
Doc Daneeka: A disgruntled viewer is suing Japan's national broadcaster for "mental distress" caused by an excessive use of words borrowed from English.Hoji Takahashi, 71, is seeking 1.4 million yen ($14,300; £9,300) in damages from NHK.He may reject English loanwords, but he has clearly assimilated the greatest Americanism of them all - frivolous lawsuits.
Fluid: Get used to it. Just about every major language these days has been anglicized for the most part.
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